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So Assange has stopped leaking stuff he got from a kid who will be in prision for the next 50 years to make him himself rich.

/Thats one awesome dude.
// I wish he would rape me.

sammyk

Yes I agree with the SAD tag. It's sad how many whiteknights there are for Julianne Asshat. Corporations, governments and the military can have secrets. You have no special right to be privy to those secrets. But don't let that stop you from pretending pfc. Manning is not guilty of espionage.

Turning a stoopid attention whore into your folk hero is farking retarded.

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sammyk: Yes I agree with the SAD tag. It's sad how many whiteknights there are for Julianne Asshat. Corporations, governments and the military can have secrets. You have no special right to be privy to those secrets. But don't let that stop you from pretending pfc. Manning is not guilty of espionage.

Turning a stoopid attention whore into your folk hero is farking retarded.

I support the ideals of WikiLeaks. Having a fundamentalist for transparency in the national debate is a positive, as it encourages corporations and governments to be more open voluntarily. That said, Julian Assange is, and will remain, an utter asshat.

Julian Assange is a douchebag.

That fact is irrelevant to the utility and legitimacy of Wikileaks.

jayg22

or, probably more accurately, wikileaks is going to have to put in place some new mechanism, bypassing the banks, to allow it to continue to exist. given that they're making a lot of noise about it, i would suggest that they may have something up their sleeve that will piss the banks off in a big way - or, at least i would like to think that that is a possibility

21-7-b: jayg22

or, probably more accurately, wikileaks is going to have to put in place some new mechanism, bypassing the banks, to allow it to continue to exist. given that they're making a lot of noise about it, i would suggest that they may have something up their sleeve that will piss the banks off in a big way - or, at least i would like to think that that is a possibility


dude, even if they have something on the banks, they are just waiting for the right bribes.

TofuTheAlmighty: Julian Assange is a douchebag.

That fact is irrelevant to the utility and legitimacy of Wikileaks.

True. The most damaging thing done is Assange turning it into the "Julian Assange Presents Wikileaks, Featuring Julian Assange" show.

TofuTheAlmighty: Julian Assange is a douchebag.

That fact is irrelevant to the utility and legitimacy of Wikileaks.

This, and this.

In other news, you are perfectly free to use these same financial institutions to transfer payments to a myriad of terrorist organizations, the KKK and child porn sites.

As I said earlier, they're either criminally incompetent in regards to the BoA leaks (as in, they did not have redundant backups known only to single cell units spread throughout the company, and the one asshat actually did delete the only copy) or they're withholding information that could be crucial to current world affairs.

sammyk: You have no special right to be privy to those secrets.

Yep.

If they happen to be sponsoring child prostitution rings with US tax dollars in a US-governed area or breaking several international laws and harming US citizens, you have no rights to know that information. Being farked up the ass is a privilege.

The original cables release had a few Assange-led farkups, like the release of the "critical personnel and locations" list and the "US-critical organizations and buildings" lists. Those put actual people in danger

However, for the most part they sought out media help in censuring the cables which was commendable.

The "full release" was stupid and the result of very terrible controls on the information, and for Wikileaks it was an entirely symbolic affair; the information was already revealed by several other sources anyways.

Other than that, I can't see why you're mad over a stack of papers that amounted to mostly "Putin has a Batman and Robin relationship" and "Brits say something embarrassing to US envoy, who responds with something terribly indicting" that everyone already suspected.

Wikileaks stopped publishing?

And nothing of value was lost.

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sammyk: Isn't child prostitution a law enforcement matter?

It's something that shouldn't be defended under the blanket label of "a corporation has a right to keeping all its secrets!".

Manning is a criminal too stupid to understand how he put lives at risk

He was under the belief that anything that put people truly at risk would be censured. Which, for the most part, was true until a few people managed to put 2 and 2 together and release the entire uncensored cables.

*That said, trusting a foreigner known for blanket releases with national secrets that could put people in danger was absolutely stupid.

And I believe that it was more stupidity than malice in that line of thought.

sammyk: Stupidity or malice? Who cares? He damn well understood he didn't have the authority to release anything.

Yeah. We know all about authority here in the U.S. The government tells me I shouldn't see something (new window) -- that's good enough for me.

It is amazing how when this topic comes up, all the super tough talking rule of law tough on traitor keyboarders start whining and squeaking like little mice stabbed with a fork repeatedly. Every time.

sammyk: Stupidity or malice? Who cares? He damn well understood he didn't have the authority to release anything.

It could be reasonably argued that, as the central portion of a soldier's duty pertains to upholding and protecting the US constitution and its spirit therein, he could only do his duty reasonably by exposing the corrupting and self-destructive elements of the military from within.

Of course, the same argument could justify terrorism as well.

Kumana Wanalaia: F*CK YOU ASSANGE




umad?

How much does it cost to upload a file and click "Publish"?