The jig is up. the emperor's ass is hanging out. And there's nothing left to do but shut these bastards down by any means necessary.

This About That: bunner: shut these bastards down

Yeah! Ok, then what?

Let's see. It's the information age. There has to be disclosure statements and passcodes somewhere. Then what? Then what?? Then it gets worse for a bit and then actually better instead of becoming a third world sh*thole with gold courses. When you're heading towards a cliff, you turn the f*cking wheel. You work out "then what" after you hit the brakes and thusly, avoid the cliff. That's what.

golf courses.

I'm going to make a pessimist/realist prediction here.

Doesn't matter, no one in power in America will listen to him. The protestors will begin freezing next month and the herd will thin out. The majority of all the hooplah seems to be endless hand wringing and feel good platitudes with little or no real potential to substantially affect policy changes or the underlying nature of how the American government is a Corporatocracy.

The weather starts to freeze, lots of protesters go home. Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year roll around. Any of the protesters actually left in the sub-zero temps/snow will be forcibly evicted by the city out of concern for public health. If they don't then the remaining popsicles will be painted as homeless loners because hey, "why else would people be down there on Thanksgiving or on Christmas Eve". The media will continue to whittle away the public image of OWS until the majority no longer care and go back to watching reruns of Jersey Shore.

Diogenes: I like his use of "real economy." Because it wasn't the real economy that farked us. It was a rigged game with no protections that farked us. There were no natural economic counterbalances to the artificial manipulation of Wall Street.

Not to mention using bits of paper with a lot of gymnastic math doesn't create wealth. It just redistributes it. Upwards, usually.

sheilanagig: Until spring comes along and they "Reoccupy". If the protesters were that fickle, they wouldn't be on month two now.

Easy to do before the weather gets really bad.

Sub-zero temps, snow, and the city will evict the remaining ones for "public health" or move them to homeless shelters. Then they'll cordon off the area as a preemptive measure before the thaw. The media will paint them in a light that makes the rest of America stop caring.

I somehow doubt it will regain its momentum in the spring.

C-SPAN 3 has been showing hardcore pornography for 3 hours every day starting at about 3 PM. It's one of the best kept secrets of public television.

Cythraul: sprawl15: C-SPAN 3 has been showing hardcore pornography for 3 hours every day starting at about 3 PM. It's one of the best kept secrets of public television.

All straight? Or is there a little man-love for me to appreciate as well?

Gay stuff only really hits the tubes on Thursdays.

mrshowrules: I'm not saying you are at this point but I think many Americans are willing to put on an extra pair of socks and a touque.

I can't wait for some apparel maker to realize that giving a bunch of ski hats (prominently featuring the maker's logo) to the protesters will ensure many, many bits of news videoin the future featuring said ski hats and logo. The protestors get something for free that allows them to stay out and keep protesting, the company gets some free publicity, and the whole premise of the protest gets oh-so-subtly eroded. Win-win-win.

mrshowrules: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm going to make a pessimist/realist prediction here.

Doesn't matter, no one in power in America will listen to him. The protestors will begin freezing next month and the herd will thin out. The majority of all the hooplah seems to be endless hand wringing and feel good platitudes with little or no real potential to substantially affect policy changes or the underlying nature of how the American government is a Corporatocracy.

The weather starts to freeze, lots of protesters go home. Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year roll around. Any of the protesters actually left in the sub-zero temps/snow will be forcibly evicted by the city out of concern for public health. If they don't then the remaining popsicles will be painted as homeless loners because hey, "why else would people be down there on Thanksgiving or on Christmas Eve". The media will continue to whittle away the public image of OWS until the majority no longer care and go back to watching reruns of Jersey Shore.



Egyptians risked their lives to protest. I'm not saying you are at this point but I think many Americans are willing to put on an extra pair of socks and a touque.

Sleeping outside in New York in the winter is a good way to die.

Uzzah: ...and the whole premise of the protest gets oh-so-subtly eroded.

I don't think you understand what is happening.

Exception Collection 2011-10-24 11:26:12 AM

DeFazio's awesome, and (mostly) a good politician. Even my father - a Teabagger - votes for him.

your father teabags? explain your existence - adopted?

Historic top tax rates:

HERE (new window).

1940 to 1980 = 81 to 70%
1981 to 1988 (Reagan) = 69 to 28%

Businesses are not job creators, they are money makers. I had worked for a company that made millions in profit last year, but the receptionist is a voice mail box! Companies do not hire just to hire, not successful ones anyway.

EWreckedSean: Sleeping outside in New York in the winter is a good way to die.

Maybe for today's effete youth, but our forefathers were made of sterner stuff.

Well hes right. We got left holding the checkbook for them.
This is why i dislike Bernie Madoff so much and his ilk. Lives ruined and they go to jail and eveyone else gets jack.

It's good to be the king.

winterwhile: wow

a dem-o-rat trashing Obama

its off to club gitmo for him

Know what the sound of the vestiges of your credibility going down the sh*tter is? *click*

I fear that before all this is over, people are going to get hurt. I don't want that and I know that none of you want that.

So I am asking the 1% to turn themselves and their assets in before this gets out of control and bad things start happening. Because as it is now, you are betting that you will get away with it again.

rev. dave: I fear that before all this is over, people are going to get hurt. I don't want that and I know that none of you want that.

So I am asking the 1% to turn themselves and their assets in before this gets out of control and bad things start happening. Because as it is now, you are betting that you will get away with it again.

Will?
Many already have been.
Those who had their money and livelihoods stolen by the 1%, the protestors beaten or sprayed by the police without cause.
Violence from one side has been continual, perpetuating, and shows no signs of stopping.
It only remains to be seen how far OWS and people can be pushed before they decide it's time to fight fire with fire.

Exception Collection: My father's a right-wing member of the Tea Party

bunner: Know what the sound of the vestiges of your credibility going down the sh*tter is?

m2313: rev. dave: I fear that before all this is over, people are going to get hurt. I don't want that and I know that none of you want that.

So I am asking the 1% to turn themselves and their assets in before this gets out of control and bad things start happening. Because as it is now, you are betting that you will get away with it again.

Will?
Many already have been.
Those who had their money and livelihoods stolen by the 1%, the protestors beaten or sprayed by the police without cause.
Violence from one side has been continual, perpetuating, and shows no signs of stopping.
It only remains to be seen how far OWS and people can be pushed before they decide it's time to fight fire with fire.

Oh I know. But you at least need to give fair warning to appeal the whatever humanity is left in these vampires.

Who the hell is this guy and why isn't he president?

nekom: the company I work for hires people when they need to hire people.

You're absolutely right. Labor is just another commodity, and that means that its market price is going to be set by a combination of supply and demand. Taxes can reduce demand (if I don't have any money, I can't afford to hire labor), but by-and-large, the price is going to be set by the market.

m2313: It only remains to be seen how far OWS and people can be pushed before they decide it's time to fight fire with fire.

Well somebody else is chucking bombs at them. Thank goodness that actually harming someone with a bomb hurled from a moving car requires a little more expertise than some random yokel in Maine actually possesses.

Pants full of macaroni!!: ww had credibility? Who knew?

I didn't think he was credible. I thought he was certifiable.