TEBOW

He really, *really* sucked for 3+ quarters but put it together at the end. I have nothing in particular against the guy, but I just don't see it happening consistently. Maybe I'm wrong.

In either case, he missed a wide-open Eric Decker on a pass that would have been a TD, which would have pushed me to a win in fantasy. So damn it all.

/I need to go to bars showing every game more often

cefm: Because they know if you try to throw anything back, you'll miss, Timmy.

Broncos won, and the kid was clutch in winnin' time.

//Just sayin'.

FreakinB: He really, *really* sucked for 3+ quarters but put it together at the end. I have nothing in particular against the guy, but I just don't see it happening consistently. Maybe I'm wrong.

In either case, he missed a wide-open Eric Decker on a pass that would have been a TD, which would have pushed me to a win in fantasy. So damn it all.

/I need to go to bars showing every game more often

I will say though, that at the bar there was a woman wearing a Tebow jersey and loudly yelling about everyone else (o-line, receivers, whatever) every time the Broncos made a bad play, whether or not it was Tebow's fault. So if that's the norm, I can see why people are a bit put off.

/I'm in NY, away from the center of the Tebowniverse

bhcompy: You know who else won ugly all the time? Vince Young. And now he's a career backup. Because you can only win ugly against bad teams.

Or, using the example of random Bronco RBs who put up 1000+ yards/season then faded into obscurity as soon as they were left Denver, you can win ugly when your teammates carry you.

I love how "Tim Tebow" won a game where 21 other starts plus special teams and subs participated.

Ok, if anyone watched the game, you'll see that Miami stymied his ass for 57 minutes, and in those last 3 minutes minutes, they went to prevent defense, which allows for receivers to catch the ball, but not advance down the field or get out of bounds. basically, it's a throwback defense that quite literally let the other team catch the ball, but not score.

This is Miami letting him score more than Tebow running the offense to a score.

Up until this point he had more sacks than completions and threw more balls out of bounds than completions. He is NOT a good QB. This has nothing to do with anything outside of PRO Football. He is NOT a good QB.

See, the game where they pulled Orton and put in Tebow, you could make the claim that he almost led them to victory. And I don't really care about Tebow's beliefs. He doesn't seem like a bad person (quite the opposite) apart from that Focus on the Family horseshiat, and since every player feels like making a big deal out of God helping them get a first down, his "drop to my knees and cry" behavior doesn't stand out much.

But if I understand correctly, Tebow doesn't get blamed for contributing to a 15 point hole the team was in after 57 minutes of play, but he gets credit for the win. That's just silly.

Quasar: See, the game where they pulled Orton and put in Tebow, you could make the claim that he almost led them to victory. And I don't really care about Tebow's beliefs. He doesn't seem like a bad person (quite the opposite) apart from that Focus on the Family horseshiat, and since every player feels like making a big deal out of God helping them get a first down, his "drop to my knees and cry" behavior doesn't stand out much.

But if I understand correctly, Tebow doesn't get blamed for contributing to a 15 point hole the team was in after 57 minutes of play, but he gets credit for the win. That's just silly.

In the post-game presser Tebow blamed himself for getting them in the hole, and most analysts I've seen have said "Yeah, he sucked for 55 minutes, but he lead the Broncos to a win; let's hold off on calling him a winner or loser."

Personally? I know that Tebow won; but you can't consistently win like that. Only against a horrendously shiatty team like the Dolphins could he pull that off. Personally, I think John Fox was an idiot for not yanking Tebow at the half and putting in Orton.

He got bailed out by a couple of great catches in the game, as well. Not a very auspicious 4th start in the NFL. To be fair, he was playing against a solid Miami defense that held the Cleveland Browns to just 17 points, and had been allowing only 26 points/game over the first 6 weeks.

Meh, as an old school Raiders fan I'm conditioned to wish for heavy, pointy things to drop on all the Broncos' dreams and aspirations, but I wish the kid well. Maybe he will turn in a solid season, and maybe the Broncos as a team will suck a bit less in 2011. What truly doesn't sit right with me is that in a week where rookie Cam Newton (who admittedly had 3 more NFL starts than Tebow) goes off, Christian Ponder gets his first NFL start & keeps his god-awful team in it til the final seconds against the Packers, the Saints hang 62 points on Indy, and both Raider QBs forget which color their jerseys are, Tebow is the lead story for every sports show/website. Not his fault to be sure, but doesn't make me more sympathetic to his cause either.

He needed a borderline miracle final 3 minutes to beat a hapless Miami team. Teams don't often recover onside kicks, and he got lucky they did. But Matt Prater didn't do him any favors missing two FGs earlier in the game.

Decker was wide open and would have been an easy TD. Decker was so open, even a bad throw could have been a touchdown. Tebow's throw was just hideous. You could tell he was amped and excited and just overshot Decker.

That said, Tebow also had some ridiculous runs, like the one where he should have been sacked and instead ran for 25 yards.