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(BBC) Unlikely "Anonymous philanthropist" gives Dutch scientist $400,000 to make a hamburger from petri dish grown pork. No word on whether he gets fries and mayo with his McNasty value meal   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 49
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2011-10-24 10:41:38 AM
Are people eating pork hamburgers? I ask merely for information.


/Two all BEEF patties...
 
2011-10-24 11:17:33 AM
If you think vegetables are a problem for E coli and listeria infections, try eating meat that was produced without an immune system.
 
2011-10-24 11:17:36 AM
Tastes like... despair.
 
2011-10-24 11:19:45 AM
TheShadow: If you think vegetables are a problem for E coli and listeria infections, try eating meat that was produced without an immune system.

Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

I'd eat it, as long as the energy and cost it took to grow and manufacture was less than the energy and cost to raise a pig the old fashioned way.

//I'll never have to eat it.
 
2011-10-24 11:21:29 AM
Bah da-da-da-daaaa....I'm porking it......
 
2011-10-24 11:24:35 AM
If you can do meat why not fur? Just grow the fur bearing parts of the animals and advertise it as 100% animal free fur coats.
 
2011-10-24 11:28:46 AM
BTW, McRibs are back nationwide through November 14th.
 
2011-10-24 11:29:41 AM
I don't understand why we can't just eat child orphans.
 
2011-10-24 11:31:45 AM
McRib Is Back
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2011-10-24 11:33:51 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Tastes like... despair.

Came here for this. One of the funniest scenes I've ever seen on television...
 
2011-10-24 11:34:10 AM
Let me know just as soon as they can grow Alaskan King crab and Bluefin tuna in the lab..
 
2011-10-24 11:35:06 AM
Came to see the (presumably) amazing feat disregarded in favor of ripping the subby over pork hamburgers = Beef.
 
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2011-10-24 11:37:03 AM
GungFu: I don't understand why we can't just eat child orphans.

Because Texas needs them to execute.
 
2011-10-24 11:45:02 AM
meat0918: Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

Yes, and maintaining those sterile conditions in a production environment will be a nightmare.
 
2011-10-24 11:49:56 AM
Is he going to cook it in his oven?
 
2011-10-24 11:54:44 AM
TheShadow: meat0918: Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

Yes, and maintaining those sterile conditions in a production environment will be a nightmare.


Good point. It's not like there are any other things that are mass produced, including foods that require sterile conditions. It's going to be ridiculous!

There will be a day where eating meat grown inside a live animal and harvested via meat cleaver will be the disgusting practice.
 
2011-10-24 11:57:44 AM
TheShadow: If you think vegetables are a problem for E coli and listeria infections, try eating meat that was produced without an immune system.

Seeing as e.coli is transmitted due to feces, the lab grown shiat might be safer.
 
2011-10-24 12:00:36 PM
The biggest problem is getting proper meat consistency right, apparently it wouldn't be that hard to do chopped meat, but your product is going to likely end up looking like something at a Doener Kebab place - growing a marbled steak is going to be hard.

Plus, you already have retards all over the world who shun any "GM"foods no matter how small the man made influence is, you think theres going to be a rush on the tank grown meat?
 
2011-10-24 12:01:28 PM
TheGogmagog: Came to see the (presumably) amazing feat disregarded in favor of ripping the subby over pork hamburgers = Beef.

I steam a good ham
 
2011-10-24 12:02:02 PM
lennavan: TheShadow: meat0918: Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

Yes, and maintaining those sterile conditions in a production environment will be a nightmare.

Good point. It's not like there are any other things that are mass produced, including foods that require sterile conditions. It's going to be ridiculous!

There will be a day where eating meat grown inside a live animal and harvested via meat cleaver will be the disgusting practice the affluent will use to get meat.


Don't project your vegan sensibilities on the rest of us, or assume society at large will normalize them.
 
2011-10-24 12:07:49 PM
Crotchrocket Slim: lennavan: TheShadow: meat0918: Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

Yes, and maintaining those sterile conditions in a production environment will be a nightmare.

Good point. It's not like there are any other things that are mass produced, including foods that require sterile conditions. It's going to be ridiculous!

There will be a day where eating meat grown inside a live animal and harvested via meat cleaver will be the disgusting practice the affluent will use to get meat.

Don't project your vegan sensibilities on the rest of us, or assume society at large will normalize them.


I'm about as far from vegan as you can get. I'm one of the few people at work who biatches when there's no meat option at group lunches. We always special cater to the vegetarians because they don't eat meat. What about the people who don't eat vegetables? No joke, shiat pisses me off.
 
2011-10-24 12:08:44 PM
lilplatinum: Plus, you already have retards all over the world who shun any "GM"foods no matter how small the man made influence is, you think theres going to be a rush on the tank grown meat?

Those retards also have no idea odds are pretty farking good they're already eating GM foods.
 
2011-10-24 12:09:15 PM
GungFu: I don't understand why we can't just eat child orphans.

vpb: Because Texas needs them to execute.

Can't we eat the child orphans AFTER Texas executes them?
 
VYV
2011-10-24 12:09:50 PM
Hey hey! It's your old pal Krusty for my new pork sandwich, the clogger! If you can find a greasier sandwich, you're in Mexico!
i.imgur.com
 
2011-10-24 12:10:38 PM
So,the McRib is back?
 
2011-10-24 12:14:11 PM
I would eat the HECK outta some vat-grown hamburger but would prefer it to be VatBeef and not VatPork.
 
2011-10-24 12:19:20 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Tastes like... despair.

This pear... so delicious.
 
2011-10-24 12:20:23 PM
lennavan: lilplatinum: Plus, you already have retards all over the world who shun any "GM"foods no matter how small the man made influence is, you think theres going to be a rush on the tank grown meat?

Those retards also have no idea odds are pretty farking good they're already eating GM foods.


GMO hysteria has gotten so bad that people are demanding no hybrid plants as well(because they don't know the difference between hybrid and GMO), and then biatching that their tomatoes and peppers were not as good as last year.

I want to eat Enviropig pork. Their saliva has been altered to help breakdown plant phosphorus, the effect of which is their shiat isn't quite so loaded with phosphorus any longer, which in the long term will lead to less problems related to run-off. Not only that, but the alteration at this point appears stable and is inheritable.

I mean, yeah, we're doing this because of factory farming methods cramming as many animals in as little space as they can get away with, but people want their cheap food, and most especially want their bacon.

Oh, and a student at my alma mater is using a sterile grass from India to clean up excess antibiotics in the run off from cattle farms.
//No reason for that last part, just excited about applying science to fix the problems we are causing ourselves while improving our lives as well.
 
2011-10-24 12:22:24 PM
Headline might have been funnier with a "Big Nasty" reference.
 
2011-10-24 12:24:19 PM
i52.tinypic.com

The dream is to one day create a cheeseburger that is grown inside the can. It doesn't even see daylight for the first time until you eat it. Then it sees daylight again as you retch it back up into the kitchen sink in panicked heaves.
 
2011-10-24 12:29:06 PM
If they can make meat that actually tastes as good or better than real stuff then it will be a great day for all. We all know that rearing animals for food has its problems, but there's simply no way we can do with out meat. We eat meat, it's what we do, it tastes delicious. There will always be a market for old fashioned original meat, and a slow uptake of this stuff if it becomes a reality, but I hope it does, and I hope it's great.
 
2011-10-24 12:37:28 PM
lennavan: TheShadow: meat0918: Hence the sterile conditions it is grown in.

Yes, and maintaining those sterile conditions in a production environment will be a nightmare.

Good point. It's not like there are any other things that are mass produced, including foods that require sterile conditions. It's going to be ridiculous!

There will be a day where eating meat grown inside a live animal and harvested via meat cleaver will be the disgusting practice.


Plus, if we get people to focus on the fact that the meat was grown in a lab, maybe we can get them to ignore the safest, cheapest, and most practical way to ensure 100% of food borne pathogens are removed is through low radiation doses.

Unfortunately, if there's one thing that sounds scary on the news, even more so than OMFG CHEMICALS, it's OMFG RAY-DEE-A-SHUN!
 
2011-10-24 12:39:26 PM
7 billion people on the planet and nobody found the recipie for Soylant Green yet?
 
2011-10-24 12:40:26 PM
lennavan: lilplatinum: Plus, you already have retards all over the world who shun any "GM"foods no matter how small the man made influence is, you think theres going to be a rush on the tank grown meat?

Those retards also have no idea odds are pretty farking good they're already eating GM foods.


All food is genetically modified. We should all know, from common sense, that the fact that people are biatching all over about "heirloom varieties" is because we've bred entirely new food sources from the original food sources for hundreds of years deliberately, and thousands of years by our nature of putting away the best seeds for future years.

Bananas shouldn't all be large, fleshy, and yellow. Apples shouldn't all be firm, small and red. Good luck on finding any kind of original wild strains of potato, corn, or soy...
 
2011-10-24 12:41:32 PM
elffster: Bah da-da-da-daaaa....I'm porking it......
i286.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-24 12:43:28 PM
I think is was Civilization II, but one of the Civ. games had a tech called Meat Vats, which provided some tremendous amount of food for your tiny digital population. I distinctly remember feeling disturbed when I built them in all my cities.
 
VYV
2011-10-24 12:43:32 PM
groppet: 7 billion people on the planet and nobody found the recipie for Soylant Green yet?

i.imgur.com
 
2011-10-24 12:44:30 PM
Civil Discourse: I think is it was Civilization II, but one of the Civ. games had a tech called Meat Vats, which provided some tremendous amount of food for your tiny digital population. I distinctly remember feeling disturbed when I built them in all my cities.

FTFM
 
2011-10-24 12:53:13 PM
Mr Guy: lennavan: lilplatinum: Plus, you already have retards all over the world who shun any "GM"foods no matter how small the man made influence is, you think theres going to be a rush on the tank grown meat?

Those retards also have no idea odds are pretty farking good they're already eating GM foods.

All food is genetically modified. We should all know, from common sense, that the fact that people are biatching all over about "heirloom varieties" is because we've bred entirely new food sources from the original food sources for hundreds of years deliberately, and thousands of years by our nature of putting away the best seeds for future years.

Bananas shouldn't all be large, fleshy, and yellow. Apples shouldn't all be firm, small and red. Good luck on finding any kind of original wild strains of potato, corn, or soy...


I can get you the corn, that's the easy one.

Potatoes... give me time. I know people. Fark soy though, blech.

This corn was and is awesome BTW. (ok, it's not a land race corn exactly, but it is a pretty good flour corn). Plus no one else in my neighborhood grows corn, so any cross with hybrid sweet corn is pretty negligible.

i457.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-24 01:19:42 PM
Pork hamburger? For $400k I would tell him a sausage patty is a hamburger.
/but he can't touch my sausage link
 
2011-10-24 01:24:09 PM
VYV: Hey hey! It's your old pal Krusty for my new pork sandwich, the clogger! If you can find a greasier sandwich, you're in Mexico!
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Am I the only one that wants a sausage sandwich from White Castle in the afternoon? Why is pork a morning only food, but you can get their hamburgers all day?

/Hmm, maybe I should read the article so I could make an on topic post.
 
2011-10-24 01:27:25 PM
Mr Guy: All food is genetically modified.

No, not all.

Mr Guy: is because we've bred

Breeding is not the same as what we do with GMOs. I get what you're saying but I don't think you're helping by conflating the two ideas.


meat0918: Plus no one else in my neighborhood grows corn, so any cross with hybrid sweet corn is pretty negligible.

No, that's not the correct corn. That corn was bred that way.

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Google Teosinte.
 
2011-10-24 01:39:51 PM
lennavan: Mr Guy: All food is genetically modified.

No, not all.

Mr Guy: is because we've bred

Breeding is not the same as what we do with GMOs. I get what you're saying but I don't think you're helping by conflating the two ideas.


meat0918: Plus no one else in my neighborhood grows corn, so any cross with hybrid sweet corn is pretty negligible.

No, that's not the correct corn. That corn was bred that way.

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Google Teosinte.


I though I mentioned land race, not teosinte. I must have removed it during an edit. My bad.

I don't typically take genetically modified in the broader sense of exploit evolution to breed plants and animals we want, but the only direct modification of the genome.

We still expose seed to mutagenic chemicals like sodium azide as well as radiation to get new varieties because it's more socially acceptable than amalgamating all the traits you want from different varieties(all within the same species mind you) using GM techniques.

Plus you still have the good old fashioned novelty of open pollination. I have a cross between a Thai chile and a Jalapeno I am hoping reproduces the same fruit next year.
 
2011-10-24 02:14:31 PM
meat0918: We still expose seed to mutagenic chemicals like sodium azide as well as radiation to get new varieties because it's more socially acceptable than amalgamating all the traits you want from different varieties(all within the same species mind you) using GM techniques.

I don't know how true that really is. Normal GMO techniques require us to know something (or a lot) about what we're doing. Random mutagenesis doesn't really require any knowledge whatsoever.

The sense I get from agriculture people is they all accept and know the general public is stupid so they do whatever they want. I mean seriously, look at "organic" stuff. What people believe about "organic" versus what's actually true. I buy organic tomatoes because I don't want chemicals on my food! Surprise!

meat0918: I don't typically take genetically modified in the broader sense of exploit evolution to breed plants and animals we want, but the only direct modification of the genome.

Same here. All of these were examples of exploiting evolution: Bananas shouldn't all be large, fleshy, and yellow. Apples shouldn't all be firm, small and red. Good luck on finding any kind of original wild strains of potato, corn, or soy... I took "original" in his post to mean prior to either GMO or evolution/breeding.
 
2011-10-24 04:33:06 PM
i2.photobucket.com

i2.photobucket.com

/a bit late, me thinks
 
2011-10-24 04:35:09 PM
lennavan: I don't know how true that really is. Normal GMO techniques require us to know something (or a lot) about what we're doing. Random mutagenesis doesn't really require any knowledge whatsoever.

The sense I get from agriculture people is they all accept and know the general public is stupid so they do whatever they want. I mean seriously, look at "organic" stuff. What people believe about "organic" versus what's actually true. I buy organic tomatoes because I don't want chemicals on my food! Surprise!


Yeah, especially since organic does not mean "no pesticide" or "no spray"

I think I can safely assume I don't need to list the pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, etc. listed as organic use approved.
 
2011-10-24 09:06:09 PM
ciberido: GungFu: I don't understand why we can't just eat child orphans.

vpb: Because Texas needs them to execute.

Can't we eat the child orphans AFTER Texas executes them?


We could have back when they bar-b-q'd 'em. Now that you have to boil the poison out of 'em they get all rubbery.
 
2011-10-24 09:50:24 PM
How long until that one farker comes in here tilting at windmills with his absurd argument about how ground beef should only be called "hamburg" and that "hamburger" means specifically a sandwich made from a "hamburg patty".

/something about a stupid sacred cow, too lazy to properly formulate the joke right now
 
2011-10-25 02:18:28 AM
It's Big Nasty, smitty.
 
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