So they are going to dig up dirt on the creators of south park and ruin their election bid!

I'm not friend of religion, but Scientology is a religion that has pure evil at it's core. (Even Satanism is just apathetic to others, Scientology is run by actual malevolent people).

in my opinion, this is awesome.

doesn't $cientology try to 'hush' peoples' complaints with lawsuit after butthurt lawsuit?

matt and trey can afford to play ball* on this one, let's see what happens.

*baseketball, even

GAT_00: These are two guys who got stoned and dressed up as women for an awards ceremony. I don't think you've thought this out.

Trey: It's so really fascinating, we always, we would always talk about how we, we grow up, sort of, I think we met, we were both Python fans and we were both sort of punk rockers. We wanted to do a punk rock TV show. And you know, and when we were growing up the way to be punk rock was to be really liberal, you know, because we grew up with Reagan in high school and all of that, you know, and then. But then we moved to, the problem is we moved to L.A. when we did the, you know, and then... The only way to be punk rock in L.A. is to be a Republican. Because it's the only way, you know, you're in a party, the only way to be is "Uh I think George Bush is awesome!" and everyone's like "WHAT??" It's just like, you know, and that, REALLY, I mean, it's just amazing! And when we did Team A-, Team America

From Charlie Rose a long time ago

note to scientology:

don't get into a poo flinging fight with poo flinging experts

I predict we will be seeing a Scientology episode fairly soon :)

Andromeda: Hey this episode was on TV last night! (in the Netherlands)

I hadn't seen it in years and at the end when the Scientologists say they're going to sue everyone the random character in the audience says "we're going to sue you in England!" Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I don't know, but before case law went electronic they would go to court and physically destroy case files. Destroying the records and farking up case law.

I am sure Matt & Trey will not be using this in an upcoming episode.

wojaq: note to scientology:

don't get into a poo flinging fight with poo flinging experts

this

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joni mnemonic: in my opinion, this is awesome.

doesn't $cientology try to 'hush' peoples' complaints with lawsuit after butthurt lawsuit?

Oh, they run the whole gamut. Law suits. Complaints to the police. Identity theft. Whatever suits them. If you look up "Fair Game Scientology" on google, you'll get a pretty decent summary.

Andromeda: Hey this episode was on TV last night! (in the Netherlands)

I hadn't seen it in years and at the end when the Scientologists say they're going to sue everyone the random character in the audience says "we're going to sue you in England!" Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I'm not aware of anything specific but the libel laws in the UK are slanted overwhelmingly in the plaintiff's favor so the idea is that if you have a questionable libel suit against an author, if the contentious work was published in the UK, you sue there to have a much greater chance of winning.

Just wait 6 months for the article about how $cientology wants to declare a truce.

Andromeda: Hey this episode was on TV last night! (in the Netherlands)

I hadn't seen it in years and at the end when the Scientologists say they're going to sue everyone the random character in the audience says "we're going to sue you in England!" Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

In England, anyone accused of libel must prove that their writings are truthful. Rather than the accuser having to prove they're false/malicious.

Andromeda: Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I believe Scientology has taken advantage of the UK strict libel laws to sue various people through the years. There may also be fights over the church itself, as the UK doesn't have the same laws governing freedom of religion that we do and they have a state (Anglican) church.

The Germans have taken a hard line: Scientology is banned as a cult there.

FTFA: The controversial cult/religion (delete as appropriate)

Can you come and go as you please? Are you required to pay for "the message"?

Religion: "No" to both questions.
Cult: "Yes" to one or both questions.

Both are asinine, but one more so than the other.

Coming to Broadway summer of 2013, the creators of "The Book Of Mormon" present "Trapped In The Closet 2 Xenu's Revenge: The Musical."

GAT_00: These are two guys who got stoned and dressed up as women for an awards ceremony. I don't think you've thought this out.


LSD. They've made it known that they wish the facts be accurate. They were tripping balls and not stoned.

It was at the Oscars.

/they talked about it in a recent doc
//gets most requests to hear them do Kenny's voice

Snapper Carr: Andromeda: Hey this episode was on TV last night! (in the Netherlands)

I hadn't seen it in years and at the end when the Scientologists say they're going to sue everyone the random character in the audience says "we're going to sue you in England!" Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I'm not aware of anything specific but the libel laws in the UK are slanted overwhelmingly in the plaintiff's favor so the idea is that if you have a questionable libel suit against an author, if the contentious work was published in the UK, you sue there to have a much greater chance of winning.

Supposedly the burden of proof for libel in England is reversed. In the U.S., to prove libel the plaintiff has to prove what was said is false. So, for instance, if an American says "Scientology is a dangerous cult that brainwashes its members and leaves many of its members broke," proving libel would be hard because Scientology cannot prove that it does not do any of that (and would not want to open itself up to an investigation by the defense). In England, however, the defendant would have to prove all of its points. Scientology would not have to open itself up for an investigation and even if the defense brought up people who were brainwashed or broke because of Scientology, it would be hard to offer unassailable proof without records from Scientology, which they aren't going to get.

If you want an interesting read, check out how $cientology got it's tax exemption. Basically, they harassed the living bejeezus out of the IRS, even did a bunch of their cockamamie "investigations" into people who worked there and essentially just wore them down until the IRS gave up and let them have it. It's pure graft, plain and simple, masquerading as "religion". I welcome their downfall.

Dwight_Yeast: Andromeda: Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I believe Scientology has taken advantage of the UK strict libel laws to sue various people through the years. There may also be fights over the church itself, as the UK doesn't have the same laws governing freedom of religion that we do and they have a state (Anglican) church.

The Germans have taken a hard line: Scientology is banned as a cult there.

Not sure about the specifics but I saw Scientology places in Germany still earlier this year, so they obviously still operate their shenanigans there.

/sorry, not shenanigans...good and positive ideology.

Dwight_Yeast: Andromeda: Alas I confess that's a reference I feel I ought to know but don't- does the church of Scientology sue people in that country specifically because of a law that exists there but not here or something?

I believe Scientology has taken advantage of the UK strict libel laws to sue various people through the years. There may also be fights over the church itself, as the UK doesn't have the same laws governing freedom of religion that we do and they have a state (Anglican) church.

The Germans have taken a hard line: Scientology is banned as a cult there.

I don't think it's banned, but it's treated as a proto-fascist movement. Because the last time they ignored a group that had its own paramilitary wing, things went badly. (The Sea Org isn't exactly equivalent to the SA, but there are some parallels.)

Many ex-Sea Org members have reported grueling and torturous treatment, including Gerry Armstrong, who, during his time in the Sea Org, spent over two years banished to the RPF as a punishment. Says Armstrong:

"It was essentially a prison to which crew who were considered nonproducers, security risks, or just wanted to leave the Sea Org, were assigned. Hubbard's RPF policies established the conditions. RPF members were segregated and not allowed to communicate to anyone else. They had their own spaces and were not allowed in normal crew areas of the ship. They ate after normal crew had eaten, and only whatever was left over from the crew meal. Their berthing was the worst on board, in a roach-infested, filthy and unventilated cargo hold. They wore black boilersuits, even in the hottest weather. They were required to run everywhere. Discipline was harsh and bizarre, with running laps of the ship assigned for the slightest infraction like failing to address a senior with "Sir." Work was hard and the schedule rigid with seven hours sleep time from lights out to lights on, short meal breaks, no liberties and no free time... When one young woman ordered into the RPF took the assignment too lightly, Hubbard created the RPF's RPF and assigned her to it, an even more degrading experience, cut off even from the RPF, kept under guard, forced to clean the ship's bilges, and allowed even less sleep."

Oh yes, I'm sure Matt and Trey give a s*it.

domo_kun_sai: Oh yes, I'm sure Matt and Trey give a s*it.

Yeah, this. There's really nothing Scientology can do to them at this point that they could possibly care about, short of actually inflicting serious harm on themselves or their loved ones (threats have doubtless already been made and shrugged off). But at this point, Scientology can't really do that without exposing itself for what it really is, so Matt and Trey are more or less safe.

Millennium: domo_kun_sai: Oh yes, I'm sure Matt and Trey give a s*it.

Yeah, this. There's really nothing Scientology can do to them at this point that they could possibly care about, short of actually inflicting serious harm on themselves or their loved ones (threats have doubtless already been made and shrugged off). But at this point, Scientology can't really do that without exposing itself for what it really is, so Matt and Trey are more or less safe.

Of course if you have someone "untouchable" like Matt and Trey, you could just go after their friends and families.

Okay so we know going in they use drugs and have dressed as women ... what now?

The truth is that Matt and Trey are closet Scientologists - I've personally seen them both perform the Silent Birth ritual many times.

The Maw Confederation are from "the Sixty-third Galaxy," says Hubbard in Aberration and The Sixth Dynamic, and they practiced "total psychiatric control" by pushing people's faces into supercooled sheets of glass. Hubbard claims this so-called "method of brainwashing" was developed about five billion years ago by a "whole-track psychiatrist."

wojaq: note to scientology:

don't get into a poo flinging fight with poo flinging experts

In redneck terms: Never wrestle with a pig. You wind up muddy, and the pig has a good time.

That being said, I see Matt and Trey gearing up for bonus money from the increased ratings.

Dang! If I had just known, I would have shorted popcorn futures. And floss to get the hulls out later.

Why are they going after Trey & Matt, but not this "John Smith"? Looks like he's the mastermind behind that episode.

They're going to try and besmirch the reputation of two creators of a cartoon show whose principal characters include a talking turd and a towel with a drug problem....

Good luck.

Now, if they DO come up with something, it's going to be pretty epic. Were talking dead hooker in the trunk material here. But honestly, if they manage to pick a roach out of the trash the collective consensus is going to be "Yeah? And? So what?"

Operation Freak Out (new window)

Tax Boy: Why are they going after Trey & Matt, but not this "John Smith"? Looks like he's the mastermind behind that episode.

Even Scientology's not stupid enough to fark with The Doctor.