The driver of the car did not have a good view.

clearly this didnt happen in china

From the comments:This is why when I see a injured or sick person in need of help, I simply take a picture to tweet to my 3 followers and then leave them to die

/csb

some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

No good deed goes unpunished.

some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

Nope. I don't wanna know.

friedlinx: some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

Pretty sure there was a Fark story about this, but I must have missed it.

Link (new window)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20121691-503543.html?tag=conte n tMain;contentBody

AverageAmericanGuy: friedlinx: some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

Pretty sure there was a Fark story about this, but I must have missed it.

Link (new window)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20121691-503543.html?tag=conte n tMain;contentBody

I'd put NSFW on that, btw.

Stuff like this is the reason I never help anyone. People who help always, and I mean always get farked in the ass. It's like god going "WTF did you help that guy for? You know, I dropped that truckload of steel pipes on him for a PURPOSE, duh! Ever heard of the divine plan? That was part of it, and you messed it up, douchebag. Here, this is what you get for screwing my shiat up, I'm shoving this steel pipe up your ass!"

AverageAmericanGuy: friedlinx: some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

Pretty sure there was a Fark story about this, but I must have missed it.

Link (new window)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20121691-503543.html?tag=conte n tMain;contentBody

There was one point in that video where a truck tries to drive around the toddler's body and just winds up running over more of it. What the fark is wrong these people?

Speedingfish:

> What the fark is wrong these people?

Um, it's China. That's where this sort of thing happens:

http://i55.tinypic.com/21lkidd.jpg (possibly NSFW)

State Police have closed part of Route 54 while conducting their investigation, law enforcement officials said.

Yeah, so they can cross the road without getting hit.

Must have swerved to avoid the chicken.

The story didn't say if the biker lived or not, so I'm guessing not.
My Grand-dad rode, my Dad rode, I ride, my kids ride, and my grand-kids ride.
The best piece of advice about motorcycle safety on the road was given to me by my Grand-dad who said "Ride like you are invisible to automobile drivers, but if they could see you the B A S T A R D S would try to kill you".
Over 45 years up on two and 0 car tread imprints, must admit to some gravel rash though (never try to power slide a cushman scooter on a gravel road).

AverageAmericanGuy: AverageAmericanGuy: friedlinx: some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

Pretty sure there was a Fark story about this, but I must have missed it.

Link (new window)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20121691-503543.html?tag=conte n tMain;contentBody

I'd put NSFW on that, btw.

Not that I'm trying to absolve the bystanders of responsibility in any way, but a big part of why people in China never stop is the solid and somewhat justified fear of lawsuit. They don't have "Good Samaritan" laws like we do, so maybe they'll call the police, but they're not going to risk their livelihoods for a stranger by rendering direct assistance. Hopefully the outrage surrounding this incident will change that.

The story is just sad.

Being run over is a sad thing. Having people trying to help run over is a really sad thing.

Why don't they just ban motorcycles? How many lives are we going to throw away so a few people can live out their childish macho-tough guy fantasies?

Cars have minimum safety standards that they must meet in order to be street legal (at least, in the US)....so why do we allow motorcycles (who can't pass any of them) to be on the road? It's retarded.

Either do away with all safety standards; or make all motorized vehicles meet them.

Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't they just ban motorcycles? How many lives are we going to throw away so a few people can live out their childish macho-tough guy fantasies?

Cars have minimum safety standards that they must meet in order to be street legal (at least, in the US)....so why do we allow motorcycles (who can't pass any of them) to be on the road? It's retarded.

Either do away with all safety standards; or make all motorized vehicles meet them.

Toots de la Footsjelly: I rode motorcycles most of my life. I have to admit some of these bikes today are the equivalent of owning a assault rifle. WHY? I also understand that the 4 and 4+ wheel jockeys also have issues as some responders mentioned but I always curious when someone reports that he saw someone Facebooking while driving. I mean how does someone see that? On the phone maybe but such detail as they were Facebooking? I'd say the both of you had better start paying attention to your driving. OH and Fark Guy Rob you are just a pissant. Please leave the planet today.

I may or may not be a pissant. But that's irrelevant to my argument.

Either our safety standards are B.S. and should be removed; or they are for the greater good and all vehicles should meet them. Motorcycles can drive on all the same roads cars can, including interstates and express-ways. Why do we have government mandated safety requirements for all of the other vehicles that motorcycles fail to meet; but are given a free pass?

I'm not a fan of government imposed safety requirements. I'd be fine with getting rid of them. But I'm even less a fan of double standards. If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road. These laws are supposed to exist for a purpose....if there is no purpose, let's get rid of them. If there is a purpose; until a motorcycle meets all of the same legal requirements; get them off public roads. Sure, go to a private track and do whatever you want; but not on public streets.

Fark_Guy_Rob: If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road.

So you're arguing that motorcycles should have seat belts?

Fark_Guy_Rob:
I may or may not be a pissant...


Driver of car hits two pedestrians trying to help a downed motorcyclist.

Logical reaction: Go off on a rant-and-rave about how motorcycles should be banned.

/be sure not to even mention the driver of the car

JuggleGeek: Fark_Guy_Rob: If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road.

So you're arguing that motorcycles should have seat belts?

...and airbags. Don't forget the airbags.

/for pedestrians, too

What happened to the motorcyclist, or was he/she the bait?

AverageAmericanGuy: friedlinx: some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: some_beer_drinker: clearly this didnt happen in china

That baby died, btw. Very sad story.

thats what im talking about. i live in china, everyone is talking about that. i was appaled when i saw the video...seriously...farked up!

link please

Pretty sure there was a Fark story about this, but I must have missed it.

Link (new window)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20121691-503543.html?tag=conte n tMain;contentBody

(Credit: Chinasmack.com via Youku)

Chinasmack? That's an unfortunate choice of words in this case.

UtileDysfunktion: JuggleGeek: Fark_Guy_Rob: If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road.

So you're arguing that motorcycles should have seat belts?

...and airbags. Don't forget the airbags.

/for pedestrians, too

amindtat:

pic of bike airbag

Yeah, I was aware that someone tried that, remembered after posting.

/still would like to see some pedestrian anti-car-collision protective devices
//'cause, you know, it would be unreasonably to expect drivers not to hit stuff (like people)

Happy Hours: Gaylord Fister: Speedingfish:

> What the fark is wrong these people?

Um, it's China. That's where this sort of thing happens:

http://i55.tinypic.com/21lkidd.jpg (possibly NSFW)

You shouldn't judge them - it's a cultural difference. Who are we to say what's right and what's wrong.

That's the problem with Western culture - we're always trying to impose our values of people in other parts of the world.


We're Americans, it's our right to be racist and nationalist. We're just so awesome. 9/11? Just a scratch.

UtileDysfunktion: amindtat:

pic of bike airbag

Yeah, I was aware that someone tried that, remembered after posting.

/still would like to see some pedestrian anti-car-collision protective devices
//'cause, you know, it would be unreasonably to expect drivers not to hit stuff (like people)

How about a thoughtful car-mounted pedestrian airbag instead?

Look both ways before venturing into the roadway. Sad incident all around, but those two additional casualties were imminently avoidable had they practiced basic safety and common sense.

amindtat:

How about a thoughtful car-mounted pedestrian airbag instead?

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/hot as coal-fired steam engine

Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't they just ban motorcycles? How many lives are we going to throw away so a few people can live out their childish macho-tough guy fantasies?

Cars have minimum safety standards that they must meet in order to be street legal (at least, in the US)....so why do we allow motorcycles (who can't pass any of them) to be on the road? It's retarded.

Either do away with all safety standards; or make all motorized vehicles meet them.

How about tougher licensing requirements for drivers? In my 15 mile morning commute, I routinely see drivers cruising along at 70MPH+ while:

- Texting
- Applying makeup
- Wearing headphones (I saw one guy with Q-tips in both ears....weird)
- Putting in contacts
- Putting in eyedrops
- Talking on the phone
- Reading a newspaper/book/document
- Reaching back to mess with the kids
- Watching a movie

How many motorcyclists do you see doing that during the morning commute?

/I saw one driver actuating a full-sized puppet (like you'd see Jeff Dunham do) with both hands while piloting a 30,000lb+ semi at 70mph.
//Wife didn't believe me and wanted to get a closer look, I told her to get the fark away from the guy.
///CSB

cefm: Look both ways before venturing into the roadway. Sad incident all around, but those two additional casualties were imminently avoidable had they practiced basic safety and common sense.


What if, as a pedestrian, you left your orange cones, reflective vest, and road flares home that day?

Good Samaritan? Does subby even understand what that really means?

A Good Samaritan is not a phrase that means some random do-gooder.

Jesus parable of the Good Samaritan is completely incomprehensible if you don't know what a Samaritan is in the first place.

Jewish society back in the time of Herod had many castes. Samaritans were half-breed jews and were considered the lowest of the casted. This means that if a Samaritan were to say hello to a jewish tax collector, the tax collector would have been within his rights to smack the Samaritan upside the head. Samaritans were not allowed to interact with the common people of Judah and Galilee and such. The Samaritans were never slaves, however they were treated as less than people, second class citizens.

In other words, they were the N* of the ancient world.

So Jesus saying that a Samaritan who does a good deed to selflessly help another will get into the Kingdom before a pious Jew who only did good deeds when there was reward was utter blasphemy at the time.

Another thing, if Jesus was unmarried, as the Christian Bible suggests, then by Jewish Law, Jesus would have been labelled Pariah, which means Outcaste, which is the only social rank below Samaritan. If a Pariah says hello to anyone, even a Samaritan, they are fully within their rights to stone the Pariah to death. Jesus could not have delivered his message to the masses if he were Pariah. In fact, the entirety of the New Testament was written by people who had never met Jesus, and the stories come from people who had never met Jesus, because all of Christianity comes from the Genteel church that Paul started, and even Paul (Saul of Tarsus) never ever met Jesus. Paul didn't understand Jewish law. He was Greek. Paul didn't know Jesus or any of his friends. Christianity is a religion entirely created by Saul of Tarsus, and is only topically about Jesus. None of Jesus' core teachings nor is his real story are in the Bible.

None of the Apostles were there during Jesus' trial, and those events were not public record. Therefore the trial scene was fabricated. When Jesus was supposedly having his crisis of faith in Gethsemene, all the apostles were asleep, except Judas, who supposedly was betraying Jesus at the time. So they don't really know what happened.

Everything about the New Testament is based on rumor and legend passed down from people who never knew the man.

The only texts that appear to have been written by disciples of Jesus based on content (even though the copies we have are most definitely not the original forms) are Pistis Sophia, The Gospel of Thomas, and the Gospel of Philip (the Gospel of Mary Magdelene is so incomplete one cannot tell). The rest of the Gnostic Texts seem to be utter rubbish created either by the inanities of Saul of Tarsus and his followers or the insanities of Valentinius and his followers.

Now, I don't mind one bit people having a religion based on the ideas of Saul of Tarsus / Paul. They have every right to their beliefs. However, to expect people to believe that Historical Fact is wrong (Jesus had to be married, likely with kids, Jesus died at 48 not 33, Pontias Pilot was even more ruthless than his good friend Caiaphas, and ordered Jesus' execution instead of engaging in philosophy and sophistry) because the Bible is Infallible is just insanity.

I have no problem with Christians. I have a problem with Christians using beliefs to disprove facts. Facts and Beliefs should never be mixed. They should be kept separate at all times.

And facts should never be used to disprove beliefs either. You hear me, atheists?

Facts and Beliefs serve different functions, and both are needed and necessary.

So feel free to worship Jesus and God, however, realize that Historical Fact greatly disagrees with what the New Testament teaches about Jesus, mainly because Paul of Tarsus, the originator of all the stories in the New Testament, never even met Jesus. What you're placing your faith in is the word of Paul/Saul of Tarsus. Don't be surprised that historical fact disagrees with him.

However, the symbology of a single Jesus who spread his Gospel of forgiveness and love is still very important. Treat the New Testament as symbolism created by Paul, desired to inspire. And then learn the facts about Jesus (like that his common birth name was Eshoo, not Yeshua or Jesus because the common tongue was ancient scribal aramaic, not greek or hebrew). But don't let the facts about Jesus interfere with your faith. However, don't let your faith of Jesus interfere with the facts of Jesus as well.

Jaedreth

jaedreth: Good Samaritan? Does subby even understand what that really means?...


tl;dr

This all Gods fault

queezyweezel: amindtat: UtileDysfunktion: amindtat:

pic of bike airbag

Yeah, I was aware that someone tried that, remembered after posting.

/still would like to see some pedestrian anti-car-collision protective devices
//'cause, you know, it would be unreasonably to expect drivers not to hit stuff (like people)

How about a thoughtful car-mounted pedestrian airbag instead?

[www.marklines.com image 550x400]

Isn't that still a bit like hitting someone with a pillow that is taped to a sledge hammer?

JuggleGeek: Fark_Guy_Rob: If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road.

So you're arguing that motorcycles should have seat belts?

Absolutely.

There should be no distinction between motorcycle or car; they are both motorized vehicles. If an occupant driving a car needs to wear a seatbelt then, hell yes, 100%, a motorcyclist should be required to. That only *sounds* silly because we all know how dangerous motorcycles are.

Think about it.

You are many times safer in a car *without* a seatbelt than you are in a motorcycle without a seatbelt. And yet, the law says in a car, you STILL need ADDITIONAL safety provided by the seatbelt. How can it be legal to drive a motorcycle without a seatbelt when a much safer activity (car with a seatbelt) is illegal?

That makes no sense.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't they just ban motorcycles? How many lives are we going to throw away so a few people can live out their childish macho-tough guy fantasies?

Cars have minimum safety standards that they must meet in order to be street legal (at least, in the US)....so why do we allow motorcycles (who can't pass any of them) to be on the road? It's retarded.

Either do away with all safety standards; or make all motorized vehicles meet them.

How about tougher licensing requirements for drivers? In my 15 mile morning commute, I routinely see drivers cruising along at 70MPH+ while:

- Texting
- Applying makeup
- Wearing headphones (I saw one guy with Q-tips in both ears....weird)
- Putting in contacts
- Putting in eyedrops
- Talking on the phone
- Reading a newspaper/book/document
- Reaching back to mess with the kids
- Watching a movie

How many motorcyclists do you see doing that during the morning commute?

/I saw one driver actuating a full-sized puppet (like you'd see Jeff Dunham do) with both hands while piloting a 30,000lb+ semi at 70mph.
//Wife didn't believe me and wanted to get a closer look, I told her to get the fark away from the guy.
///CSB

I've seen motorcyclists doing stupid stuff too. Anyway, if you wanted to say something like, 'Watching a movie while operating a motorized vehicle should be illegal' - I might support that. but it should be applied to motorcycles and cars equally.

Same with all the safety standards.

While motorcyclists can follow laws like 'don't watch a movie' - current consumer motorcycles that are available do not meet the safety requirements of cars. Until they do, they shouldn't be on the road (or until we change the law so that people in cars don't have to meet those standards either).

queezyweezel: Fark_Guy_Rob: Toots de la Footsjelly: I rode motorcycles most of my life. I have to admit some of these bikes today are the equivalent of owning a assault rifle. WHY? I also understand that the 4 and 4+ wheel jockeys also have issues as some responders mentioned but I always curious when someone reports that he saw someone Facebooking while driving. I mean how does someone see that? On the phone maybe but such detail as they were Facebooking? I'd say the both of you had better start paying attention to your driving. OH and Fark Guy Rob you are just a pissant. Please leave the planet today.

I may or may not be a pissant. But that's irrelevant to my argument.

Either our safety standards are B.S. and should be removed; or they are for the greater good and all vehicles should meet them. Motorcycles can drive on all the same roads cars can, including interstates and express-ways. Why do we have government mandated safety requirements for all of the other vehicles that motorcycles fail to meet; but are given a free pass?

I'm not a fan of government imposed safety requirements. I'd be fine with getting rid of them. But I'm even less a fan of double standards. If it has an engine and can go on all the same roads; it should have to meet all of the same requirements to be on that road. These laws are supposed to exist for a purpose....if there is no purpose, let's get rid of them. If there is a purpose; until a motorcycle meets all of the same legal requirements; get them off public roads. Sure, go to a private track and do whatever you want; but not on public streets.

Dude, you're so right. We should put a steel cage around it, and add two more wheels so it's more stable....

If that is what it takes to meet the minimum safety standards we hold cars to; then absolutely. And if that means people don't get to ride cool motorcycles on public streets....oh well.

When I was a kid I always wanted a super-powered set of rollerblades. Imagine if I had the time, money and knowledge to actually build that. Would it be legal for me to drive across the country on my rocket-powered rollerblades at 70mph? Of course not. Because we have a bunch of laws that dictate what can be driven on public roads. 'Street legal' is the term for it.

These laws exist because we've been told we *need* to enforce them to ensure the safety of everyone on the road. Except, we have different standards for motorcycles. So either the laws are B.S. or motorcycles are a menace to safe driving.