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2011-10-23 01:53:16 PM  
Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.
 
2011-10-23 01:58:25 PM  
Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.
 
2011-10-23 02:05:10 PM  
Maybe he can face off against McCain. The battle of the old coots!
 
2011-10-23 02:08:31 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


Yes, please.
 
2011-10-23 02:17:51 PM  
2016 will be a western democrat.
 
2011-10-23 02:21:36 PM  

WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.


Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?
 
2011-10-23 02:28:55 PM  

nekom: Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?


It will be a pro-gun rights democrat (even though the national platform is pro-gun rights) which means a western democrat is more likely.
 
2011-10-23 03:09:32 PM  
no.
 
2011-10-23 03:10:19 PM  
fark no.
 
2011-10-23 03:26:14 PM  
I like the man, respect him even, but no.
 
2011-10-23 06:36:13 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016


My wife wasn't familiar with Elizabeth Warren a few weeks ago. I told her "She's America's first female President."

I'm standing by that prediction.
 
2011-10-23 07:02:18 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.


you mean he'd win?
 
2011-10-23 07:38:42 PM  

FlashHarry: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.

you mean he'd win?


looks like you'll need this
www.seelielaw.com
 
2011-10-23 07:45:16 PM  

Flatulent_Flea: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016

My wife wasn't familiar with Elizabeth Warren a few weeks ago. I told her "She's America's first female President."

I'm standing by that prediction.


We need to see the derp crest and recede by 2014 for that to happen...but she'd have my vote.
 
2011-10-23 07:46:43 PM  

Flatulent_Flea: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016

My wife wasn't familiar with Elizabeth Warren a few weeks ago. I told her "She's America's first female President."

I'm standing by that prediction.


Right now, I would vote for her in a heartbeat (and I'm looking forward to voting for her to become my Senator).
 
2011-10-23 07:46:57 PM  
Because fark it, why not? I don't want Hillary. Never, ever. I'd absolutely love for Warren to run for it, but to straight first term Senators is unlikely to work. Who else from the Democratic Party would go? Phil Bredesen would be great if someone could get him to run. He won the Governor's office for the second time with 68% of the vote, the most lopsided in Tennessee history. He's also a big health care guy. But he sat out 2008 completely.
 
2011-10-23 07:48:53 PM  
A plagarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.
 
2011-10-23 07:53:02 PM  

EnviroDude: A plagarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.


Someone didn't have his bottle today.
 
2011-10-23 08:07:44 PM  
HillaryIs44
 
2011-10-23 08:15:15 PM  

WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.


We got both kinds - country and western
 
2011-10-23 08:21:33 PM  
No way the hair plugs last until then.
 
2011-10-23 08:21:39 PM  
Biden / Warren '16 does have a nice ring to it.
 
2011-10-23 08:22:36 PM  
Who?

/Oh that VP.
 
2011-10-23 08:23:49 PM  
I think we should really consider Cthullu as a presidential candidate. How much worse can he(it?) be than anyone else?
 
2011-10-23 08:25:34 PM  

EnviroDude: He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.


He could if he was a Republican.
 
2011-10-23 08:29:49 PM  
Jon Stewart 2016
 
2011-10-23 08:31:50 PM  

EnviroDude: A plagarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.


i.imgur.com
 
2011-10-23 08:32:47 PM  
Can't see Biden doing it... it's hard to run with your foot in your mouth.
 
2011-10-23 08:33:27 PM  
I like Biden. I think he'd be a good president.

That said, I don't see it happening.
 
2011-10-23 08:33:28 PM  
Biden has a temperament that belongs in the Senate. And, he'll be 73 in 2016. On the same angle, Clinton will be 69. I'd go with someone younger. Namely, Elizabeth Warren. Younger, actual liberal, no equivocation or reflexive capitulation. And it would be a nice to go from the center-right Obama administration to hers, in terms of making actual liberalism acceptable to the media and political culture again.

/we'd need a majority of solid D's in congress, and a fix of Senate rules to get anything done though.
 
2011-10-23 08:33:50 PM  

EnviroDude: A plagarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.


I know. Killing Osama, helping to topple Gadhafi, facilitating the end of the war in Iraq. What a farkup. He's not even saving a pretzel for the gas jets or coming up with an idiotic tax plan that can fit on a bumper sticker. At the very least he could have tried to un-gay Bachmann's husband or punish the google for getting Santorum in a froth.

In other words, STFU month old alt, you cock.
 
2011-10-23 08:35:38 PM  
Biden won't run. He's too old and he's already had some major health problems.
 
2011-10-23 08:35:48 PM  
Biden v. Palin in '16 would almost make the past 12 years worth it. We should begin the cloning process of Jon Stewart now, just in case.
 
2011-10-23 08:36:08 PM  
Who the hell is Joe Biden?
 
2011-10-23 08:38:25 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


wut?
another lawyer, academic and inexperienced politician? haven't we seen this before?

I thought her book "All Your Worth: The Ultimate Lifetime Money Plan " was okay but her appearances on Dr. Phil just weren't that consistently good.
 
2011-10-23 08:39:09 PM  

WTF Indeed: nekom: Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?

It will be a pro-gun rights democrat (even though the national platform is pro-gun rights) which means a western democrat is more likely.


I wonder if Jon Tester is interested. He should have plenty of time to put a campaign together after losing his seat next November.
 
2011-10-23 08:39:50 PM  

clancifer: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.

Yes, please.


Gillibrand will run in 2016 and she will win.
 
2011-10-23 08:40:36 PM  

Skyrmion: WTF Indeed: nekom: Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?

It will be a pro-gun rights democrat (even though the national platform is pro-gun rights) which means a western democrat is more likely.

I wonder if Jon Tester is interested. He should have plenty of time to put a campaign together after losing his seat next November.


As I said, Sen. Gillibrand will run and she will win.
 
2011-10-23 08:44:54 PM  

Tusz: Biden has a temperament that belongs in the Senate. And, he'll be 73 in 2016. On the same angle, Clinton will be 69. I'd go with someone younger. Namely, Elizabeth Warren. Younger, actual liberal, no equivocation or reflexive capitulation. And it would be a nice to go from the center-right Obama administration to hers, in terms of making actual liberalism acceptable to the media and political culture again.

/we'd need a majority of solid D's in congress, and a fix of Senate rules to get anything done though.


Warren is awesome, no question, but she would need a few more terms under her belt to be able to do 2016, but she's totally who I want for first female POTUS. Maybe 2020? She'd be 71 by then though...meh, I guess that'd work.
 
2011-10-23 08:45:50 PM  
He's got my vote.
 
2011-10-23 08:46:12 PM  
He'd be better than any republican likely to run.
 
2011-10-23 08:47:50 PM  
Thanks, but... I think I'll stick with Hillary.
 
2011-10-23 08:49:44 PM  
Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Russ Feingold
 
2011-10-23 08:52:15 PM  
Biden?...Can't we have Bernie Sanders? or Barney Frank? Or anyone? Really anyone else in the democratic party? Is it required after 2 terms that the incumbent party put up an incompetent candidate?
 
2011-10-23 08:52:28 PM  

EnviroDud: derp


imagemacros.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-23 08:52:40 PM  
As for Warren, we'll see how she does in 2012. If she can't completely clobber a Republican opponent in a Massachusetts Senate election, I'd have to say "no" just on electability grounds. She sounds great, but political experience matters. Has she ever won an election for anything in her life?
 
2011-10-23 08:53:08 PM  
Rape and murder will go up if we don't elect Joe Biden.
 
2011-10-23 08:54:09 PM  
You could do far, far worse.
 
2011-10-23 08:56:57 PM  
Would much rather see MarK Warner 2016.
 
2011-10-23 08:57:54 PM  

WTF Indeed: It will be a pro-gun rights democrat


You mean, as opposed to 0bama, who's seized everyone guns and made owning a pointy stick illegal?
 
2011-10-23 08:58:53 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: HillaryIs44


Hillarywillbe68in2016
 
2011-10-23 09:00:52 PM  

Disposable Rob: AverageAmericanGuy: HillaryIs44

Hillarywillbe68in2016


DoesntSheLookTired
 
2011-10-23 09:04:17 PM  
Biden's okay but he's certainly not the best democrats can do.

If he wins the primary I wouldn't have a problem voting for him (If the GOP is still dominated by mouth foaming idiots), but he wouldn't be my first, second, or third choice.
 
2011-10-23 09:04:30 PM  

MooseUpNorth: You could do far, far worse.


See; 99 percent of current Republican politicians.
 
2011-10-23 09:05:25 PM  

FlashHarry: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.

you mean he'd win?


Nice.
 
2011-10-23 09:07:53 PM  

Minus1Kelvin:

Warren is awesome, no question, but she would need a few more terms under her belt to be able to do 2016.


a few more terms of what?

she hasn't ever won an elected office.

She has so much political backing that she couldn't even get appointed to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
 
2011-10-23 09:08:51 PM  
Black, woman, whatever. How about Bloomberg? Oh yeah, I forgot, this country will elect an albino pagan lesbian with a lisp before it elects a Jewish president. Know why? Because once the country sees what a Jew can do, they'll never settle for a goyishe president again. Because once you go Jew, nothing else will do. However, that reminds me of a joke:

Sheila Silverman is elected the first Jewish woman President of the United States. She calls her mother and says "Ma, I want you to come to my inauguration." Her mother answers "But it's such a long drive from Boca..." Sheila Silberman says "Don't worry about it, I'll send Air Force One to pick you up." Her mother says "But I have nothing to wear..." Sheila Silberman says "I'm hiring the finest designers in the world to make you an inauguration gown. Now stop arguing, you're going to my inauguration."

So Sheila Silverman's mother goes to her inauguration. She finds herself on the reviewing stand sitting between a Supreme Court judge and a Senator. She turns to the Senator and whispers "Do you see that woman up there? That woman taking the oath of office of the President of the United States?" "Yes, Mrs. Silverman," the Senator whispers back.

"Her brother's a doctor."
 
2011-10-23 09:10:17 PM  
Depending on how well the new Two and a Half Men show goes, I'd say Ashton Kutcher will pretty much have the nomination sewn up to run against President Romney.
 
2011-10-23 09:12:32 PM  
The war in Iraq has been over for years. It is the broken campaign promise that has kept us there this long. I guess he needs the soldiers to send to Afghanistan. As far as OBL goes, it is his only foriegn policy success - killing people.

Obama had to choose Biden because Biden was the only person stupider than him. How stupid do you have to be to have to have Biden as VP to make you look better?

stoli n coke: EnviroDude: A plagarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldnt muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.

I know. Killing Osama, helping to topple Gadhafi, facilitating the end of the war in Iraq. What a farkup. He's not even saving a pretzel for the gas jets or coming up with an idiotic tax plan that can fit on a bumper sticker. At the very least he could have tried to un-gay Bachmann's husband or punish the google for getting Santorum in a froth.

In other words, STFU month old alt, you cock.

 
2011-10-23 09:13:12 PM  

Biden 2016
Plugging the Holes

 
2011-10-23 09:13:59 PM  
Joe Biden 2016 = Frank Drebin 2016
 
2011-10-23 09:15:39 PM  
Is Huffington really that hard up for a story? 2016 is a long ways away.
 
2011-10-23 09:16:49 PM  
Can I just vote for a card board cut out of Fighting Bob? he would still have more spine then most living politicians
 
2011-10-23 09:16:57 PM  
One offhand comment does not a campaign make.


That being said, I like Joe Biden. I don't know if he's presidential yet, but he's massively entertaining.
 
2011-10-23 09:19:58 PM  
No. F*ck Biden. He's too close to the White House as it is now...
I'm not a Democrat, but I've been known to vote for them when I think the candidate is the best choice. But there's no f*cking way I'll ever support Biden.

Not unless he does a 180 on his drug stance.
 
2011-10-23 09:20:16 PM  

LordJiro: MooseUpNorth: You could do far, far worse.

See; 99 percent of current Republican politicians.


Hoo yeah.
 
2011-10-23 09:24:53 PM  
I like Joe Biden. I think he's a smart guy who says dumb things, a common affliction for smart guys.

But he's boring. And dull. And he says dumb things. He's not going to win a presidential election.
 
2011-10-23 09:27:32 PM  

EnviroDude: The war in Iraq has been over for years.


Awww. Do you still watch Shrub's aircraft carrier landing while singing "Take My Breath Away?"

As for the campaign promise, the timetable was set 3 years ago, and Obama honored it.

You fail at facts, you failing failure who fails.
 
2011-10-23 09:28:55 PM  
If you don't vote for Joe Biden in 2016, there will be mass rapes all throughout the U.S.
 
2011-10-23 09:32:22 PM  

stoli n coke: You fail at facts, you failing failure who fails.


Alt trolls aren't known for trying to make insightful discussion.

Sounds just like internet dentist, only with twice the douchebag,
 
2011-10-23 09:33:20 PM  
Franken-Warren 2016!
 
2011-10-23 09:33:26 PM  

shivashakti: No. F*ck Biden. He's too close to the White House as it is now...
I'm not a Democrat, but I've been known to vote for them when I think the candidate is the best choice. But there's no f*cking way I'll ever support Biden.

Not unless he does a 180 on his drug stance.


Idiots like you are why non-users don't support marijuana legalization. You're so focused on your right to smoke a bowl that it is the only lens that you judge through? Most activists for legalization do more harm than good because they come across as farking children.
 
2011-10-23 09:33:34 PM  

EnviroDude: Obama had to choose Biden because Biden was the only person stupider than him. How stupid do you have to be to have to have Biden as VP to make you look better?


So, which qualification didn't you make to be chosen as VP then?
 
2011-10-23 09:35:18 PM  

Benni K Rok: EnviroDude: Obama had to choose Biden because Biden was the only person stupider than him. How stupid do you have to be to have to have Biden as VP to make you look better?

So, which qualification didn't you make meet to be chosen as VP then?


FTFM
 
2011-10-23 09:36:12 PM  
I'd have to see more about other candidates, but Joe's blunt yet direct manner is something I've always appreciated.
 
2011-10-23 09:36:43 PM  

tenpoundsofderp: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren



i566.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-23 09:41:26 PM  

Ambivalence: Biden's okay but he's certainly not the best democrats can do.

If he wins the primary I wouldn't have a problem voting for him (If the GOP is still dominated by mouth foaming idiots), but he wouldn't be my first, second, or third choice.


Oh, look kids, I think I see one of those mouth foaming idiots right now. Don't think that he supports the GOP though. This one is just a garden variety brain dead Leftist. You know, the kind that would vote for Joe "Big Farking Deal" Biden for President.

Stay back, kids.
 
2011-10-23 09:45:58 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: tenpoundsofderp: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren


[i566.photobucket.com image 640x364]


cute. do you really think anyone gives a fark about fark to pay someone to post here?

this is a place for mocking news. there is nothing serious or relevant to any serious discussions here.
 
2011-10-23 09:46:56 PM  

shivashakti: But there's no f*cking way I'll ever support Biden.

Not unless he does a 180 on his drug stance.


is that why you didn't vote for 0bama?
 
2011-10-23 09:48:04 PM  

Minus1Kelvin: Tusz: Biden has a temperament that belongs in the Senate. And, he'll be 73 in 2016. On the same angle, Clinton will be 69. I'd go with someone younger. Namely, Elizabeth Warren. Younger, actual liberal, no equivocation or reflexive capitulation. And it would be a nice to go from the center-right Obama administration to hers, in terms of making actual liberalism acceptable to the media and political culture again.

/we'd need a majority of solid D's in congress, and a fix of Senate rules to get anything done though.

Warren is awesome, no question, but she would need a few more terms under her belt to be able to do 2016, but she's totally who I want for first female POTUS. Maybe 2020? She'd be 71 by then though...meh, I guess that'd work.


Warren / Feingold or Feingold / Warren? Probably put Feingold second chair since he would know the Senate better.

Two actual Center-Left Democrats running instead of Center-Right Democrats? Imagine the sheer number of Derp Brigade heads that would asplode?
 
2011-10-23 09:49:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: this is a place for mocking news. there is nothing serious or relevant to any serious discussions here.


Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
 
BOZ
2011-10-23 09:51:08 PM  
The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.
 
2011-10-23 09:52:09 PM  

Crude: Ambivalence: Biden's okay but he's certainly not the best democrats can do.

If he wins the primary I wouldn't have a problem voting for him (If the GOP is still dominated by mouth foaming idiots), but he wouldn't be my first, second, or third choice.

Oh, look kids, I think I see one of those mouth foaming idiots right now. Don't think that he supports the GOP though. This one is just a garden variety brain dead Leftist. You know, the kind that would vote for Joe "Big Farking Deal" Biden for President.

Stay back, kids.


Meh. 2/10
 
2011-10-23 09:52:13 PM  

Fark Crosby: Idiots like you are why non-users don't support marijuana legalization. You're so focused on your right to smoke a bowl that it is the only lens that you judge through? Most activists for legalization do more harm than good because they come across as farking children.


I don't do pot... or most drugs. Haven't done any illegal drugs in years, actually. But I believe strongly in the legalization of it.

It's not the only lens that I judge through. But, yes, it's a major issue.
Biden, however, has been a strong anti-drug crusader. That offends me.

That's not the only reason to not vote for Biden. There are many. The guy is not fit to be a leader. But the drug thing is a major issue with me, despite my non-usage.
 
2011-10-23 09:52:17 PM  
Feingold/Warren 16' Don't really care who gets what job I just want that combo. I like Biden and all but I'm not sure how he would do in a primary alone.
 
2011-10-23 09:53:20 PM  

BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.


Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.
 
2011-10-23 09:54:01 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


Warren is definitely my #1 pick.

Russ Feingold and Al Franken are also pretty high.
 
2011-10-23 09:55:25 PM  
Screw it, I'm running in 2016
 
2011-10-23 09:55:39 PM  
"This is a big farking deal!"
 
2011-10-23 09:58:31 PM  
Biden wouldn't survive the primaries. His proclivity towards verbal gaffes would provide his opponents with too much ammunition.
 
2011-10-23 09:59:25 PM  
Too old and suffers a severe case of foot-in-mouth disease
 
2011-10-23 10:00:13 PM  

Sanic123: Feingold/Warren 16' Don't really care who gets what job I just want that combo. I like Biden and all but I'm not sure how he would do in a primary alone.


A Warren/Nater ticket gives me a weird boner.
 
2011-10-23 10:00:47 PM  

kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.


Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.
 
2011-10-23 10:03:07 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: cute. do you really think anyone gives a fark about fark to pay someone to post here?


I never said fark paid trolls, but now that you mention it.....
 
2011-10-23 10:05:59 PM  

BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.


So what you're saying is, Biden is a lock.
 
2011-10-23 10:08:15 PM  

Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.


I also started out as a libertarian capitalist type, then I grew up and got a job. Getting more conservative as you get older - assuming it is or ever was true - has, I suspect, more to do with brain loss due to aging.

/Snark
//Maybe
 
2011-10-23 10:11:13 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: is that why you didn't vote for 0bama?


No. I voted for Obama. During the campaign, he'd said that he'd have the DEA end raids on medical marijuana. He wasn't entirely pro-drug legalization but it was promising. That changed, of course, once Obama actually got into office.

But with Obama, that was not one of the more important issues with me. Biden, on the other hand, had made being anti-drugs a specific issue as a Senator of Delaware. It was one of his special causes.

His push for making several drugs into Schedule I affected their use in medical tests which I strongly oppose. But the way illegal drugs are handled in this country is ridiculous and well in need of reform anyway.
 
2011-10-23 10:11:26 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.

I also started out as a libertarian capitalist type, then I grew up and got a job. Getting more conservative as you get older - assuming it is or ever was true - has, I suspect, more to do with brain loss due to aging.

/Snark
//Maybe


Well the truth of it is by world standards america's "liberal" party is to the right of center anyway. It is just more near to the center than the far right conservative side.
 
2011-10-23 10:15:30 PM  

shivashakti: tenpoundsofcheese: is that why you didn't vote for 0bama?

No. I voted for Obama. During the campaign, he'd said that he'd have the DEA end raids on medical marijuana. He wasn't entirely pro-drug legalization but it was promising. That changed, of course, once Obama actually got into office.

But with Obama, that was not one of the more important issues with me. Biden, on the other hand, had made being anti-drugs a specific issue as a Senator of Delaware. It was one of his special causes.

His push for making several drugs into Schedule I affected their use in medical tests which I strongly oppose. But the way illegal drugs are handled in this country is ridiculous and well in need of reform anyway.


The DEA raids on states with medical marijuana did stop for awhile but recently picked up again. Not a fan of that position of his either but I support him over the other options this election.
 
2011-10-23 10:18:34 PM  

GAT_00: Because fark it, why not? I don't want Hillary. Never, ever. I'd absolutely love for Warren to run for it, but to straight first term Senators is unlikely to work. Who else from the Democratic Party would go? Phil Bredesen would be great if someone could get him to run. He won the Governor's office for the second time with 68% of the vote, the most lopsided in Tennessee history. He's also a big health care guy. But he sat out 2008 completely.


Here's the thing, Hillary's credentials are actually pretty impressive. She's got more all-around insight and political experience than any of the candidates running at the moment combined.
 
2011-10-23 10:22:20 PM  

nekom: WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.

Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?


Are you kidding? The President is going to be blamed for the economy regardless of circumstances. The economy cannot recover fast enough to make a difference now. The best he could hope for is for it to take a major turnaround and companies start hiring like crazy.

Can anybody foresee any circumstances where that is going to happen?
 
2011-10-23 10:23:36 PM  
Warren/Franken, Franken/Warren

Either one.
 
2011-10-23 10:25:16 PM  

Flatulent_Flea: Warren/Franken, Franken/Warren

Either one.


I could get with that.
 
2011-10-23 10:30:26 PM  
Unless politics and political discussions change by 2016, I'm likely to be too tired of all this partisan crap to even care any more by then.
 
2011-10-23 10:30:27 PM  
We're only five years away. Maybe we should start debates.
 
2011-10-23 10:31:27 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised if it was John Hickenlooper, the current governor of Colorado. He is right wing enough and a former BUSINESS MAN JOB CREATOR
 
2011-10-23 10:32:45 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: BUSINESS MAN JOB CREATOR


I feel you're the kind of guy who thinks Herman Cain is a legitimate candidate...

/amidoingitrite?
 
2011-10-23 10:32:47 PM  

sheilanagig: Flatulent_Flea: Warren/Franken, Franken/Warren

Either one.

I could get with that.


I consider myself fairly conservative and I'd vote for that. Or Feingold in either spot.

/thinking I may have to change my party registration pretty soon.
//already changed it once.
 
2011-10-23 10:37:31 PM  

I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: Communist_Manifesto: BUSINESS MAN JOB CREATOR

I feel you're the kind of guy who thinks Herman Cain is a legitimate candidate...

/amidoingitrite?


ALL HAIL CAIN! He is truly his brothers keeper
 
2011-10-23 10:39:19 PM  
Not too long ago, I would have said Anthony Weiner in 2016.

/Stupid Weiner
 
2011-10-23 10:41:55 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: Not too long ago, I would have said Anthony Weiner in 2016.

/Stupid Weiner


I wanted Feingold/Weiner untill he got tossed. Weiner cared about the voters far more than most of them. Still sad about that one. The guy having a sexting affair had little effect on his ability to govern if the media left him alone. Feel the same about both sides unless they preach against it then get caught doing it then its an issue.
 
2011-10-23 10:49:20 PM  

Flatulent_Flea: Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016

My wife wasn't familiar with Elizabeth Warren a few weeks ago. I told her "She's America's first female President."

I'm standing by that prediction.


I was initially hoping for Anthony Weiner, but we all know how that turned out.

I didn't know much about Warren before, but every single thing I've seen about her thus far has been VERY impressive. If she's as legit as I think she is, she stands a good chance.
 
2011-10-23 10:51:24 PM  

Sanic123: The Martian Manhandler: Not too long ago, I would have said Anthony Weiner in 2016.

/Stupid Weiner

I wanted Feingold/Weiner untill he got tossed. Weiner cared about the voters far more than most of them. Still sad about that one. The guy having a sexting affair had little effect on his ability to govern if the media left him alone. Feel the same about both sides unless they preach against it then get caught doing it then its an issue.


Weiner is a case of the cover-up being worse than the crime. If he had admitted it straight off the bat, he might still be in office.
 
2011-10-23 10:52:00 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Are you kidding? The President is going to be blamed for the economy regardless of circumstances. The economy cannot recover fast enough to make a difference now. The best he could hope for is for it to take a major turnaround and companies start hiring like crazy.


all the polls that have happened up till now show they don't really blame Obama for it - they understand where the blame lies - mostly with the "conservatives".
 
2011-10-23 10:57:40 PM  
Warner/Warren is a winner on several levels. Most importantly, as a likely winner.
 
2011-10-23 10:57:54 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: Sanic123: The Martian Manhandler: Not too long ago, I would have said Anthony Weiner in 2016.

/Stupid Weiner

I wanted Feingold/Weiner untill he got tossed. Weiner cared about the voters far more than most of them. Still sad about that one. The guy having a sexting affair had little effect on his ability to govern if the media left him alone. Feel the same about both sides unless they preach against it then get caught doing it then its an issue.

Weiner is a case of the cover-up being worse than the crime. If he had admitted it straight off the bat, he might still be in office.


Yeah, It was poorly handled but I still think it was not worth him leaving office. There have been far worse things done by people who stay in office.
 
2011-10-23 10:59:01 PM  

sheilanagig: Here's the thing, Hillary's credentials are actually pretty impressive. She's got more all-around insight and political experience than any of the candidates running at the moment combined.


She's saved a questionable political career by becoming the best Secretary of State we've had in the last century (at least). But she's done it by spending a number of years basically living on a 747. She's said she needs a rest and won't stay in office if Obama is re-elected. By 2016, she'll be in her 70s and likely well into the Eleanor Roosevelt phase of her life, doing charity work and polishing her (and Bill's) reputation.
 
2011-10-23 11:04:29 PM  

Sanic123: A Dark Evil Omen: Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.

I also started out as a libertarian capitalist type, then I grew up and got a job. Getting more conservative as you get older - assuming it is or ever was true - has, I suspect, more to do with brain loss due to aging.

/Snark
//Maybe

Well the truth of it is by world standards america's "liberal" party is to the right of center anyway. It is just more near to the center than the far right conservative side.


Well, yes, but I'm Canadian and pretty left by Canadian standards. What's your point?
 
2011-10-23 11:06:21 PM  

nekom: WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.

Anyone in particular in mind? By my predictions, 2012 is a lock for Obama, who do you think will rise to the top of the field for 2016?


John Hickenlooper of Colorado seems like he'd have a good chance if he ran. A popular governor in a purple state would probably be very electable.
 
2011-10-23 11:10:21 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: She's saved a questionable political career by becoming the best Secretary of State we've had in the last century (at least). But she's done it by spending a number of years basically living on a 747. She's said she needs a rest and won't stay in office if Obama is re-elected. By 2016, she'll be in her 70s and likely well into the Eleanor Roosevelt phase of her life, doing charity work and polishing her (and Bill's) reputation.


Age isn't always an obstacle. How old was Reagan? Personally I'd like to see her maintain a political presence one way or another for as long as she remains compos mentis.
 
2011-10-23 11:10:46 PM  

OutLawSuit: John Hickenlooper


I had not heard of him until just now and I consider my self as quite the politics junky so mild issue but can be overcome. After reading up on him he will get slammed by the right on his marijuana stance and welfare of the poor but that may help him in the long run.
 
2011-10-23 11:14:11 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


I can get behind this, yes.

Although I do great affection for Joe Biden. I can't wait until my Biden beer koozie arrives.
 
2011-10-23 11:17:23 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

If he wants to run, best of luck to him. This is America after all--even a sitting Vice President can get lucky once in awhile.
 
2011-10-23 11:19:55 PM  

WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.


I would like to see more actual Western executives run, instead of that Texas/Faux West crap. Had enough of LBJ, Shrub and Parry already.
 
2011-10-23 11:22:42 PM  
Kirsten Gillabrand, you people are retarded if you think she won't run, and won't do well.
 
2011-10-23 11:24:18 PM  

sheilanagig: GAT_00: Because fark it, why not? I don't want Hillary. Never, ever. I'd absolutely love for Warren to run for it, but to straight first term Senators is unlikely to work. Who else from the Democratic Party would go? Phil Bredesen would be great if someone could get him to run. He won the Governor's office for the second time with 68% of the vote, the most lopsided in Tennessee history. He's also a big health care guy. But he sat out 2008 completely.

Here's the thing, Hillary's credentials are actually pretty impressive. She's got more all-around insight and political experience than any of the candidates running at the moment combined.


Plus we'd have the undeniably delicious spectacle of Weaver flipflopflippin' right back to the the GOP.

/maybe not...but still :)
 
2011-10-23 11:30:27 PM  

Somacandra: WTF Indeed: 2016 will be a western democrat.

I would like to see more actual Western executives run, instead of that Texas/Faux West crap. Had enough of LBJ, Shrub and Parry already.


God I WISH we had someone with 1/2 the balls and even 3/4's as liberal as LBJ
 
2011-10-23 11:30:38 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Screw it, I'm running in 2016


Oh yeah, I can do that too. When do the independent 2016 debates start?

/Brought to you by Fark.com
 
2011-10-23 11:42:43 PM  

saintstryfe: Smeggy Smurf: Are you kidding? The President is going to be blamed for the economy regardless of circumstances. The economy cannot recover fast enough to make a difference now. The best he could hope for is for it to take a major turnaround and companies start hiring like crazy.

all the polls that have happened up till now show they don't really blame Obama for it - they understand where the blame lies - mostly with the "conservatives".


You can figure that the Republitards aren't going to vote for him. There is 40% of the voters. Of the 40% Emocrats there is a large number of them with buyers remorse. Figure at least 10% are going to say no. Of the remaining they consistantly vote with their pocketbook regardless of anything else. Even knowing that the Obamessiah was stuck with a shiat sammich does not change the fact that Reagan had the same thing and yet managed to have the perception that things were getting better. The Obamessiah lacks that. If anything the perception is things are about to get a lot worse.

I'm a libertarian and don't give a rat's ass about either party. I want all of them hung for treason and other high crimes. Neither one of the major parties are anything more than a bunch of dweebs farking things up. But if I had to choose, I wouldn't choose a nitwit like the Obamessiah. I'd pick Hillary with a raging case of hemmorhoids and on PMS while waving a flamethrower over him. She at least has her head up her own ass instead of the union's collective asses.

/vote NO for President in 2012
 
2011-10-23 11:45:23 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: this is a place for mocking news. there is nothing serious or relevant to any serious discussions here.


You're right, so let me start. I've voted Democrat for 40 farking years (well, since 1972...close enough) and I'm here to mock the idea of Joe Biden running for the top spot in '16.

Joe's too dumb to be President. How dumb is he? He's so farking dumb he's George Bush...without the brains. That's how dumb Joe is.

There, I've said it. Don't run, Joe. Retire to give speeches and raise money for the DNC. Hell, run for the Senate again!

Just don't embarrass yourself and us by running for President.
 
2011-10-23 11:47:18 PM  
If you vote for ME for president in 2016, I promise to spend all my time pointing out how much of a dickhole everyone in congress is, right up until I'm shot to death in public.

it would still be worth it.
 
2011-10-24 12:13:55 AM  
graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com

Surprised not to see this one already...
 
2011-10-24 12:17:35 AM  
Not. They way American Idol liberals exalt their inexperienced candidates, next up is Wanda Sykes!
 
2011-10-24 12:19:27 AM  
If the GOP fields candidates in 2016 like they did now, even Obama's kids could get more votes for president and they aren't even old enough yet for office. Fortunately we can count on those asses to start campaigning even earlier next cycle than this one and Biden should have quite a bit of time to decide if he wants to be president or not. For all intents and purposes, winning should be a forgone conclusion in the general election. His only difficulty *might* be the primaries. The way the Fark trolls/conservative knob-gobblers are attacking him surely demonstrates how scared they are of his potential to win. And if these losers have shown us anything, time an again, they more they hate something the better it is. Similarly the more certain they are something can't ever happen (or is certain) the more likely it is (or isn't).

\So how bout some statisticals, Gary?
\\where is that guy?
 
2011-10-24 12:34:01 AM  

BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.


More likely that you'll grow up and regret those words.
 
2011-10-24 12:36:47 AM  
Dear Joe,

t3.gstatic.com
 
2011-10-24 12:46:57 AM  
Well, he's the first clean cut, well-spoken vice-president of an African American president we've seen.
 
2011-10-24 12:47:07 AM  

Friction8r: Not. They way American Idol liberals exalt their inexperienced candidates, next up is Wanda Sykes!


ecx.images-amazon.com

You were saying?
 
2011-10-24 12:52:17 AM  
His idiocy is second only to The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers.
 
2011-10-24 12:55:39 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: EnviroDude: A plagiarist and an idiot. Why not. He couldn't muck it up worse than the moron currently up there.

Someone didn't have his bottle today.


His bottle of single malt scotch you mean. It is hard to stay sober with the idiot Obama at the helm.
 
2011-10-24 01:22:06 AM  
Obama won 'cause he was the lesser of the two evils. As South Park -tm- said.

A choice between a douche, and a turd sandwich. You have no choice, and atm in politics. It all the same choice.

Politics is ruining civilization. to many folks want it their way, instead of how it affects the whole.
 
2011-10-24 01:57:22 AM  

armoredbulldozer: His idiocy is second only to The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers.


What the f*ck does this mean? Are you just trying to be funny and failing miserably? Did this statement have a deeper meaning, that no one sees but you?
Seriously, enlighten us. What did you mean?
 
2011-10-24 02:25:40 AM  
Biden turns 74 in 2016. I doubt he will want to run for president. Hillary will be 69 while Bill will be 70. I doubt she would run either. Elizabeth Warren reallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy looks like the best candidate at this point, but its a long way away
 
2011-10-24 02:26:24 AM  

Amagi: [graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com image 640x410]

Surprised not to see this one already...


4 barrel make the frame ffffleeeex.
 
2011-10-24 02:28:08 AM  
I don't know if the country is ready for a woman President.
 
2011-10-24 02:30:41 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I don't know if the country is ready for a woman President.


*facepalm*
 
2011-10-24 02:31:19 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I don't know if the country is ready for a woman President.


*not sure if serious*
 
2011-10-24 02:47:06 AM  

stoli n coke: Friction8r: Not. They way American Idol liberals exalt their inexperienced candidates, next up is Wanda Sykes!

You were saying?


No getting around that one. Well played.
 
2011-10-24 03:02:32 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I don't know if the country is ready for a woman President.


If Pakistan, one of the most backwards countries in the world was ready for a woman Prime Minister more than 20 years ago, I think we'd better be ready for a female president.
 
2011-10-24 03:18:08 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.


I don't think he could get two thirds of the votes that Al Gore got. Unless he was running against Perry it wouldn't be close. But if the choice is Biden and Perry I won't give a shiat because I'll completely give up on the US politics.

Elizabeth Warren 2016
 
2011-10-24 03:26:31 AM  

baggins2000: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, that would go over about as well as Al Gore in 2000.

I don't think he could get two thirds of the votes that Al Gore got. Unless he was running against Perry it wouldn't be close. But if the choice is Biden and Perry I won't give a shiat because I'll completely give up on the US politics.

Elizabeth Warren 2016


What if the 2016 field is as lame as 2012?
 
2011-10-24 03:33:53 AM  
Also, isn't it comforting to know that 2012 is such a fargone conclusion that we are starting to consider the 2016 election? It makes me warm and fuzzy inside to see how the GOP f*cked this upcoming election up so badly.
 
2011-10-24 03:37:09 AM  

VictorOfBorge: Can't see Biden doing it... it's hard to run with your foot in your mouth.


You know nothing of my work, philistine.
 
2011-10-24 03:50:33 AM  

Sanic123: A Dark Evil Omen: Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.

I also started out as a libertarian capitalist type, then I grew up and got a job. Getting more conservative as you get older - assuming it is or ever was true - has, I suspect, more to do with brain loss due to aging.

/Snark
//Maybe

Well the truth of it is by world standards america's "liberal" party is to the right of center anyway. It is just more near to the center than the far right conservative side.


As I've gotten older I've definitely become more conservative. But that's conservative with a small c, and has farkall to do with Conservatism, which is actually crazy, radical wingnuttery. With wisdom and experience comes a desire for moderation and distaste for radicalism. But that hardly translates into a desire to embrace Prosperity Jesus, neo-con Preemptive Wars, and quasi-anarchocapitalist crypto-fascist bullshiat.
 
2011-10-24 04:02:27 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


Bears repeating.
 
2011-10-24 04:18:11 AM  
I'm not even going to pretend I can predict 2016. There are too many variables in play, like Occupy Wall Street. If OWS results in a liberal/progressive surge in 2012 and the economy turns around in Obama's second term, then I think the Democrats will be going into 2016 very strong.

If OWS doesn't translate into progressive votes, then we're screwed. Either Romney wins and the corporations start spending all that money they have in reserve to restore some semblance of prosperity and the right claims ideological victory, or Obama wins with enough Republicans left in power to keep the economy in the dumps and hoping for a win in 2016.

There will also be the 2014 elections, which could see another Rederplican surge, since liberal/progressives tend to slack on non-presidential election years and the right is going to be epically pissed if Obama wins again. But I don't see them being able to pull off a second Tea Party style astroturf job, and the liberal/progressives may be able to terrify their base with the specter of the 2010 drubbing into actually turning out to vote.

If OWS really does lead to a resurgence in leftist politics, then by 2016 the Republicans may have collapsed into a regional party only representing the south, which could lead to an interesting showdown between Democratic establishment centrists and liberal/progressives. The 2016 Democratic primaries are, regardless of what happens between now and then, certainly going to be interesting and exciting.

I could see Biden or Gillibrand representing the centrists, and Feingold or Warren representing the progressives. I could also see something really interesting, like a Gillibrand/Feingold ticket happening. There are also some serious darkhorses that could come out of the blue -- I think Gavin Newsom has a real shot at getting himself the Veep nod in 2016, though he may be shooting for Governor of California. And, of course, in 2003 there was absolutely no one seriously talking about Barack Obama, so we have to be open to the possibility that the 2016 is a complete unknown at this moment.

I also think Michael Bloomberg is positioning himself for a serious run -- he's been doing a hell of a lot to brand himself as pro-progressive (which is why I think he's not cracking down on OWS - he needs these people to vote for him in 2016!), and I suspect he'll run as a Democrat (since Guilliani has proven that a New York liberal republican, which is basically what Bloomberg is at heart, can't win the GOP nomination).

I would rather have Warren in the Senate than the White House, because I think she has the kind of mind that will serve best actually writing legislation and running the finances committee. As much as I like Feingold, I don't know if he's got the charisma to capture people's imagination. So if I were to put money on who the Dems will run in 2016, which as I've made clear I'm loathe to do, I would put it down on Gillibrand/Bloomberg.

Gillibrand/Bloomberg. Try to remember you read that here first.
 
2011-10-24 04:37:45 AM  

skepticultist: I'm not even going to pretend I can predict 2016. There are too many variables in play, like Occupy Wall Street. If OWS results in a liberal/progressive surge in 2012 and the economy turns around in Obama's second term, then I think the Democrats will be going into 2016 very strong.

If OWS doesn't translate into progressive votes, then we're screwed. Either Romney wins and the corporations start spending all that money they have in reserve to restore some semblance of prosperity and the right claims ideological victory, or Obama wins with enough Republicans left in power to keep the economy in the dumps and hoping for a win in 2016.

There will also be the 2014 elections, which could see another Rederplican surge, since liberal/progressives tend to slack on non-presidential election years and the right is going to be epically pissed if Obama wins again. But I don't see them being able to pull off a second Tea Party style astroturf job, and the liberal/progressives may be able to terrify their base with the specter of the 2010 drubbing into actually turning out to vote.

If OWS really does lead to a resurgence in leftist politics, then by 2016 the Republicans may have collapsed into a regional party only representing the south, which could lead to an interesting showdown between Democratic establishment centrists and liberal/progressives. The 2016 Democratic primaries are, regardless of what happens between now and then, certainly going to be interesting and exciting.

I could see Biden or Gillibrand representing the centrists, and Feingold or Warren representing the progressives. I could also see something really interesting, like a Gillibrand/Feingold ticket happening. There are also some serious darkhorses that could come out of the blue -- I think Gavin Newsom has a real shot at getting himself the Veep nod in 2016, though he may be shooting for Governor of California. And, of course, in 2003 there was absolutely no one seriously talking about Barack Obama, so we have to be open to the possibility that the 2016 is a complete unknown at this moment.

I also think Michael Bloomberg is positioning himself for a serious run -- he's been doing a hell of a lot to brand himself as pro-progressive (which is why I think he's not cracking down on OWS - he needs these people to vote for him in 2016!), and I suspect he'll run as a Democrat (since Guilliani has proven that a New York liberal republican, which is basically what Bloomberg is at heart, can't win the GOP nomination).

I would rather have Warren in the Senate than the White House, because I think she has the kind of mind that will serve best actually writing legislation and running the finances committee. As much as I like Feingold, I don't know if he's got the charisma to capture people's imagination. So if I were to put money on who the Dems will run in 2016, which as I've made clear I'm loathe to do, I would put it down on Gillibrand/Bloomberg.

Gillibrand/Bloomberg. Try to remember you read that here first.


Interesting ideas. Though I think that if Romney somehow wins, the destruction of the middle class will only accelerate, with the media trying to hide that fact.
 
2011-10-24 04:39:57 AM  

Alphax: Interesting ideas. Though I think that if Romney somehow wins, the destruction of the middle class will only accelerate, with the media trying to hide that fact blame it on the progressives.


Edited for accuracy.
 
2011-10-24 05:56:50 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.

 
2011-10-24 07:30:51 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: She's saved a questionable political career by becoming the best Secretary of State we've had in the last century


Nah, thats Kissinger.
 
kab
2011-10-24 08:30:53 AM  
how-about-no.jpg
 
2011-10-24 08:39:57 AM  

Doc Daneeka: I like Biden. I think he'd be a good president.

That said, I don't see it happening.


I love Biden. He's a troll king.
 
2011-10-24 08:40:46 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: saintstryfe: Smeggy Smurf: Are you kidding? The President is going to be blamed for the economy regardless of circumstances. The economy cannot recover fast enough to make a difference now. The best he could hope for is for it to take a major turnaround and companies start hiring like crazy.

all the polls that have happened up till now show they don't really blame Obama for it - they understand where the blame lies - mostly with the "conservatives".

You can figure that the Republitards aren't going to vote for him. There is 40% of the voters. Of the 40% Emocrats there is a large number of them with buyers remorse. Figure at least 10% are going to say no. Of the remaining they consistantly vote with their pocketbook regardless of anything else. Even knowing that the Obamessiah was stuck with a shiat sammich does not change the fact that Reagan had the same thing and yet managed to have the perception that things were getting better. The Obamessiah lacks that. If anything the perception is things are about to get a lot worse.

I'm a libertarian and don't give a rat's ass about either party. I want all of them hung for treason and other high crimes. Neither one of the major parties are anything more than a bunch of dweebs farking things up. But if I had to choose, I wouldn't choose a nitwit like the Obamessiah. I'd pick Hillary with a raging case of hemmorhoids and on PMS while waving a flamethrower over him. She at least has her head up her own ass instead of the union's collective asses.

/vote NO for President in 2012


Dude, you seriously need to chill. Perhaps you should step away from the computer, have the nice nurse give you your purple pills and take a nice nap.

Yeesh.
 
2011-10-24 08:46:49 AM  

Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.


It may just be because the definition of "conservative" has changed to "stultified old dinosaur who can't see past 1982."
 
2011-10-24 08:50:18 AM  

zenobia: Sanic123: kimwim: BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.

Not necessarily...as I age, I get more liberal, not less.

Yeah, I've grown more liberal too. I think the era of people growing conservative as they age is over.

It may just be because the definition of "conservative" has changed to "stultified old dinosaur who can't see past 1982."


"Conservatives", by and large, either like the way things ARE, or like the way things WERE (even an idealized version of what they are/were). They resist changing too much, or too quickly, or even at all. To be modern conservative, all that you need is to believe that things are or were better.

To be a modern Republican, you need a head injury.
 
2011-10-24 08:53:38 AM  
No, vote for ME for president in 2016. I'm tanned, rested and relaxed. If elected, I will solve the debt problem by nationalizing all the art museums in the country and auctioning off all non-American art. This will immediately raise a minimum of $10 trillion. Ta da!

This doesn't solve the deficit, however. For that I will institute the "Federal Tax Raffle." Tickets will cost $1,000 each. At the end of the month a single winner will be selected who will never have to pay Federal income tax again. I figure twelve tax-free millionaires a year is a small price to pay for the tens of billions of dollars in revenue this will bring in each month. That, combined with the John Ekizian Memorial One Cent Tax on those little packets of ketchup they give away at McDonald's should solve our revenue problems once and for all.

I've got a million other simplistic, unworkable ideas like that, plus I have absolutely no experience in government whatsoever, so I'm at least as qualfiied as Herman Cain. Vote Clambam in 2016!
 
2011-10-24 08:55:36 AM  
now if only Joe and the FleeBaggers could just link up

thats a win for the dem's

go for it.....please??????????
 
2011-10-24 08:59:37 AM  
Team Warren
 
2011-10-24 09:38:55 AM  

winterwhile: .please??????????


i262.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-24 09:44:49 AM  
Would definitely prefer Hilary over Joe, despite the nagging belief that we could do better, as a nation, than keep recycling the same set of people through the White House.

Biden is a likeable guy, but an intellectual lightweight. His kid seems to have some brains about him, though.
 
2011-10-24 10:02:51 AM  

atomsmoosher: Would definitely prefer Hilary over Joe, despite the nagging belief that we could do better, as a nation, than keep recycling the same set of people through the White House.

Biden is a likeable guy, but an intellectual lightweight. His kid seems to have some brains about him, though.


Biden is not an intellectual lightweight, IMHO. His main problem is his foot-in-mouth disease. He sometimes speaks before he thinks.
 
2011-10-24 10:04:06 AM  

lilplatinum: Dwight_Yeast: She's saved a questionable political career by becoming the best Secretary of State we've had in the last century

Nah, thats Kissinger.


No, I honestly think she has him beat, as she learned the one lesson Kissinger never did: sometimes it's best to do nothing to make things better.
 
2011-10-24 10:17:45 AM  

Geotpf: atomsmoosher: Would definitely prefer Hilary over Joe, despite the nagging belief that we could do better, as a nation, than keep recycling the same set of people through the White House.

Biden is a likeable guy, but an intellectual lightweight. His kid seems to have some brains about him, though.

Biden is not an intellectual lightweight, IMHO. His main problem is his foot-in-mouth disease. He sometimes speaks before he thinks.


No, his rap is that he was always slick and clever enough to get by without any hard work.

From Wiki:
Biden attended the University of Delaware in Newark, where he was more interested in sports and socializing than in studying,[10] although his classmates were impressed by his cramming abilities.[15] He played halfback with the Blue Hens freshman football team,[14] but he dropped a junior year plan to play for the varsity team as a defensive back, enabling him to spend more time with his out-of-state girlfriend.[14][17] He double majored in history and political science and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in 1965,[1] ranked 506th of 688 in his class.[18]
He went on to receive his Juris Doctor from Syracuse University's College of Law in 1968,[19] where by his own description he found it to be "the biggest bore in the world" and pulled many all-nighters to get by.[15][20] During his first year there, he was accused of having plagiarized 5 of 15 pages of a law review article. Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and he was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F, which was subsequently dropped from his record.[20] He was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[19]
 
2011-10-24 10:21:23 AM  
Didn't we learn this lesson already? Don't let the add-on guy who's unelectable on his own run!

savethehumans.typepad.com
 
2011-10-24 10:30:22 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: /vote NO for President in 2012


ELECTIONS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.
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2011-10-24 10:30:44 AM  
Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.

You have awakened my heretofore hibernating sense of political enthusiasm.
 
2011-10-24 11:17:54 AM  

cefm: Didn't we learn this lesson already? Don't let the add-on guy who's unelectable on his own run!

[savethehumans.typepad.com image 307x400]


I don't like Al Gore very much, but he did win the election in 2000.
 
2011-10-24 11:28:56 AM  
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2011-10-24 11:30:32 AM  

BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.


man i love this one, every time i hear it. "you'll understand when you're older", lol

what this translates to is "hopefully you'll become as intellectually lazy and bankrupt as me, thus allowing us to agree with one another and feel good about ourselves".
 
2011-10-24 11:56:25 AM  

MooseUpNorth: You could do far, far worse.


And far, far better. Biden tried in '88, and '08 and never really made a significant impact. He was solely chosen as VP the same reason as Cheney: to give the ticket "gravitas" and experience. A Biden run would be seen more as a throwback than progress.
 
2011-10-24 11:57:14 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: Elizabeth Warren 2016. It's time to put a real liberal in the White House.


Yeah, as much as I think Joe would do an alright job, I'm still mid orgasm at the though of Elizabeth Warren as POTUS.

/need more tissues
 
2011-10-24 12:31:09 PM  
GAT_00 (favorite) 2011-10-23 07:46:57 PM Because fark it, why not? I don't want Hillary. Never, ever. I'd absolutely love for Warren to run for it, but to straight first term Senators is unlikely to work. Who else from the Democratic Party would go? Phil Bredesen would be great if someone could get him to run. He won the Governor's office for the second time with 68% of the vote, the most lopsided in Tennessee history. He's also a big health care guy. But he sat out 2008 completely.
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Why would Hilary be a bad thing? If she'd govern anything like Bill, we'd have a damn good country back. With the occasional blowjob of an intern thrown in.

/I could go for Ms Warren, though.
 
2011-10-24 12:33:11 PM  

cefm: Didn't we learn this lesson already? Don't let the add-on guy who's unelectable on his own run!

[savethehumans.typepad.com image 307x400]


Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
 
2011-10-24 01:07:17 PM  
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, run Joe!!!

/better yet, WIN JOE!
 
2011-10-24 02:15:00 PM  

clambam: No, vote for ME for president in 2016. I'm tanned, rested and relaxed. If elected, I will solve the debt problem by nationalizing all the art museums in the country and auctioning off all non-American art. This will immediately raise a minimum of $10 trillion. Ta da!

This doesn't solve the deficit, however. For that I will institute the "Federal Tax Raffle." Tickets will cost $1,000 each. At the end of the month a single winner will be selected who will never have to pay Federal income tax again. I figure twelve tax-free millionaires a year is a small price to pay for the tens of billions of dollars in revenue this will bring in each month. That, combined with the John Ekizian Memorial One Cent Tax on those little packets of ketchup they give away at McDonald's should solve our revenue problems once and for all.

I've got a million other simplistic, unworkable ideas like that, plus I have absolutely no experience in government whatsoever, so I'm at least as qualfiied as Herman Cain. Vote Clambam in 2016!


I'm serious, when do the independent debates for 2016 start?

/Independent debates 2016, sponsered by Fark.com
 
2011-10-24 02:50:23 PM  

BOZ: The funniest part of this is that a lot of these young Democrats will grow up in the next 4-8 years, figure out that what they knew to be correct was a bunch of shiat, and make the intelligent move to a more conservative candidate or party.


They'll have to find a sane one though. Unless the GOP goes and fractures already, good luck with that.
 
2011-10-24 03:21:47 PM  
Amend the constitution! Bartlet for 3rd term!

/seriously
//should repeal that amendment
///people liked Roosevelt, people voted for Roosevelt. Big deal
 
2011-10-24 08:58:32 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

We'll see about that
 
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