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		Italian rider Marco Simoncelli goes full-Wheldon. You never go full-Wheldon (usatoday.com)		34
		More: Sad, Dan Wheldon, motocross, Italians, Las Vegas Motor Speedway, IndyCar, AC Milan, Japanese Grand Prix

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fickle floridian

2011-10-23 06:54:19 PM

Somebody be sure and CC IndyCar on this at least 250 times.

snuff3r

2011-10-23 07:16:46 PM

As soon as I saw that helmet come off I knew it wasn't going to end well.

RIP dude. Tragic day for the sport of riding.

AverageAmericanGuy

2011-10-23 08:03:48 PM

RIP Italian Racer

coco ebert

2011-10-23 08:20:16 PM

Yikes, that's horrible. RIP racer guy.

From the footage it looks like he had already fallen- anyone know what happened before to make his motorcycle fall over completely?

Uncle Wiggly

2011-10-23 09:09:18 PM

great. another sport I care nothing about that I am unable to make fun of until there's a decent wait because snarking the mourning is cheap and easy.

woogs

2011-10-23 09:27:00 PM

Damnit, I freaking loved Simoncelli. Dude just didn't fit on a motorcycle, but he raced anyways. He wasn't one to give up - at all. Several races he got Jorge Lorenzo all hot and bothered by not politely moving aside so Jorge could pass - he made everyone fight if they wanted to pass.

But holy shiat, what about Rossi and Edwards? They hit him, directly. Not a damn thing they could have done about it, but they have to be feeling like the bottom of several different barrels of shiat right now.

puffy999

2011-10-23 09:30:52 PM

RIP SIDESHOW BOB

Farty McPooPants

2011-10-23 09:51:20 PM

RIP Marco.
And subby, he didn't go FULL Wheldon. Marco's head was still attached to his body...

Khazar-Khum

2011-10-23 10:22:18 PM

Farty McPooPants: RIP Marco.
And subby, he didn't go FULL Wheldon. Marco's head was still attached to his body...

So was Wheldon's.

Your Average Witty Fark User

2011-10-23 10:22:46 PM

Tasteless and pathetic. Average for Fark.

/Fark you before you criticize me
//now I don't have to come back here to say it

TwistedIvory

2011-10-23 10:28:34 PM

woogs: But holy shiat, what about Rossi and Edwards? They hit him, directly. Not a damn thing they could have done about it, but they have to be feeling like the bottom of several different barrels of shiat right now.

I saw that. It's definitely not going to be a happy week for Rossi. This season on Ducati should've been a fantastic one, but instead he's running a comparatively slow place -- and now, with the blood of a countryman on his hands, I could honestly see him choosing to take a break from GP.

bssrf4

2011-10-23 10:29:54 PM

RIP Super Sic.

Tomizawa last year and Simoncelli this year....yikes.

pudding7

2011-10-23 11:07:38 PM

Farty McPooPants: RIP Marco.
And subby, he didn't go FULL Wheldon. Marco's head was still attached to his body...

Too bad his helmet wasn't attached to his head. That was crazy, as soon as I watched it I just started saying, "Holy shiat, holy shiat, holy shiat." You could tell Colin and Vale knew too.

fatalvenom

2011-10-23 11:13:10 PM

"Who? What? Right-turns? Two-wheels? I-talians?"

martissimo

2011-10-23 11:49:08 PM

TwistedIvory: woogs: But holy shiat, what about Rossi and Edwards? They hit him, directly. Not a damn thing they could have done about it, but they have to be feeling like the bottom of several different barrels of shiat right now.

I saw that. It's definitely not going to be a happy week for Rossi. This season on Ducati should've been a fantastic one, but instead he's running a comparatively slow place -- and now, with the blood of a countryman on his hands, I could honestly see him choosing to take a break from GP.

They had become pretty close friends as well, "the doctor" may need one for his head, that's gotta be tough

Warchild

2011-10-24 12:14:54 AM

Subby, I am disappoint.

mjoven1975

2011-10-24 12:46:48 AM

R.I.P. Marco Belinelli

NemoD

2011-10-24 12:49:45 AM

coco ebert: Yikes, that's horrible. RIP racer guy.

From the footage it looks like he had already fallen- anyone know what happened before to make his motorcycle fall over completely?

He lost the back wheel in the high speed turn, tried to catch it on his knee, got half-trapped between the motorcycle and the asphalt, then the motorcycle's back tire re-engaged and pushed him hard right back across the track ... where he was clobbered by Edwards and Rossi (who were in mid-turn themselves).

It was a terrible crash. RIP.

/It took you Fark mods long enough to greenlight a thread ... now,god forbid, if it was something stupid it would be up in minutes.

Khazar-Khum

2011-10-24 02:58:05 AM

What happened to Rossi & Edwards?

summersa74

2011-10-24 04:07:27 AM

Khazar-Khum: What happened to Rossi & Edwards?

I haven't seen anything about Rossi, but Colin Edwards had a dislocated shoulder.

moike

2011-10-24 04:12:29 AM

Edwards busted his wrist... I'm going to bet it was from the initial impact with Simo snapping the bars full lock. Colin had already lost the front, he saw Simo coming across his line and tried to crank in more lean to get to the inside of the corner but ended up just pushing the front end away.

Simo had his weight on his elbow/knee trying like hell to lever that thing back up on it's wheels to save it. It just caught traction at the wrong moment and shot him right across the path of Edwards/Rossi. There was nothing either of them could do... I don't know how Rossi managed to keep the Ducati upright.

Simo was one of only a couple guys on the grid that went with the hard option rear, everybody else was on the soft option. Track temps had dropped by the time they gridded up, and I'm betting that cold hard option tire just wasn't giving him the grip he needed to stay on the tail end of that pack he was chasing.

Soon as I saw that helmet rolling I knew it was going to be bad news. Any impact hard enough to bust the mount on a helmet strap is going to do some serious damage to your neck in the process.

Sad he had to go, he was really starting to get it together as the season drew to a close. But, that is part of racing, if there was no serious risk everybody would do it. I know that I am well aware of what could happen every time I hit the starter button and pull out on to the grid. You acknowledge it, but you don't think about it. The reward of the experience outweighs the risk.

ThunderChild

2011-10-24 07:02:32 AM

Been a pretty crappy seven days to be a motorsports fan. One of the reports I saw on Simoncelli said he had to wear a helmet one size larger than normal due to his huge afro. Can't help but wonder if that was a factor in it coming off?

NicoFinn

2011-10-24 07:12:34 AM

ThunderChild: Been a pretty crappy seven days to be a motorsports fan. One of the reports I saw on Simoncelli said he had to wear a helmet one size larger than normal due to his huge afro. Can't help but wonder if that was a factor in it coming off?

I wondered the same.

Mods, you're slower than molasses.

hippyneil

2011-10-24 08:26:54 AM

Farkmins: Story was submitted with 100 better headlines. You could have been slightly more respectful in your choice.

Marco was a real breath of fresh air to MotoGP and was always exciting to watch. He was like a puppy full of the joys of youth and always wanted to play with the big boys. A future World Champion, there is no doubt. I would love to have seen his race win celebrations - they would have been fun.
We really are going to miss him.

WhyteRaven74

2011-10-24 08:54:30 AM

woogs: what about Rossi and Edwards?

There's a replay where you can see Rossi on his bike, looking back and you just know he knew it was really bad. And I'm not sure Edwards was standing there in pain from his arm or in shock at what he saw on the track. I've seen plenty of pretty major accidents in MotoGP, Superbike etc, never seen a helmet come off. Seeing a driver laying there with his helmet ripped off just had to totally mess with Edwards' head.

Maurooned

2011-10-24 09:24:11 AM

Not saying it would have made a difference, given the horrific nature of the crash, but what about the standard of medical responders available at the event?

i.dailymail.co.uk

There was some talk last week around Wheldon's crash about how far down the US's motorsports safety response was... yet, in almost every instance I've seen in US motorsports - and no I am not tracking this - the EMTs or a response team is to the site within 30 seconds... certainly within a minute. It has been at the F1 and other world events where the response times and responders seem a bit lacking.... is it just the nature of the tracks, or do they not have the travelling circus that is IndyCar/Nascar etc.?

WhyteRaven74

2011-10-24 09:47:00 AM

Maurooned: is it just the nature of the tracks, or do they not have the travelling circus that is IndyCar/Nascar etc.?

It can be either or and sometimes both. In the case of Simoncelli, given the nature of the accident, he was almost certainly dead instantly. Now if you want bad safety responses, there were several cases in F1 of just horrible safety responses, track workers without proper fire extinguishers, rescue crews that had to go who knows how far to get to crashes etc.

el_loco_avs

2011-10-24 11:43:15 AM

WhyteRaven74: Maurooned: is it just the nature of the tracks, or do they not have the travelling circus that is IndyCar/Nascar etc.?

It can be either or and sometimes both. In the case of Simoncelli, given the nature of the accident, he was almost certainly dead instantly. Now if you want bad safety responses, there were several cases in F1 of just horrible safety responses, track workers without proper fire extinguishers, rescue crews that had to go who knows how far to get to crashes etc.

Erm. Well, Simoncelli apparantly regained conciousness before he died...
And the last death in MotoGP, in Japan they basically threw Katoh's body onto the stretcher and ran off with him. Shocking to see. I'm disgusted by the picture shown above. Most likely it made no difference but jeez.

NemoD

2011-10-24 12:30:51 PM

WhyteRaven74: In the case of Simoncelli, given the nature of the accident, he was almost certainly dead instantly.

I just read in an Italian paper that his neck was broken by the initial impact of Edwards' front tire. So he was probably dead immediately.

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Maurooned

2011-10-24 01:17:10 PM

NemoD: WhyteRaven74: In the case of Simoncelli, given the nature of the accident, he was almost certainly dead instantly.

I just read in an Italian paper that his neck was broken by the initial impact of Edwards' front tire. So he was probably dead immediately.

Not that there is any blame to be apportioned, but it appears it may have been Vale's wheel...... which would be even worse as they had a good friend/mentor relationship

i.dailymail.co.uk

Gotta say again though, with all the money in the sport, how below standard the trackside medical teams seem.

IlGreven

2011-10-24 03:21:56 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Tasteless and pathetic. Average for Fark.

/Fark you before you criticize me
//now I don't have to come back here to say it

Y'know what? Just don't come back.

gameshowhost

2011-10-24 05:12:33 PM

RIP DAVE WILB-oh wait

el_loco_avs

2011-10-24 07:13:03 PM

NemoD: WhyteRaven74: In the case of Simoncelli, given the nature of the accident, he was almost certainly dead instantly.

I just read in an Italian paper that his neck was broken by the initial impact of Edwards' front tire. So he was probably dead immediately.

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No. He was reported as being conscious in the ambulance.

Your Average Witty Fark User

2011-10-24 10:29:26 PM

IlGreven: Your Average Witty Fark User: Tasteless and pathetic. Average for Fark.

/Fark you before you criticize me
//now I don't have to come back here to say it

Y'know what? Just don't come back.

Y'know what? Just go fark yourself.

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