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2011-10-23 03:56:22 AM
I think the most important thing to take from this article is that there is a 60 year old out there with a kid in kindergarten. Poor kid.
 
2011-10-23 04:01:30 AM
DaCricket: I think the most important thing to take from this article is that there is a 60 year old out there with a kid in kindergarten. Poor kid.

Which article did you read?
 
2011-10-23 05:02:35 AM
FTFA: "No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

:o)
 
2011-10-23 05:20:34 AM
DaCricket: FTFA: "No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

:o)


Ah, I thought you were referring to the child's mother who put a gun in her daughter's backpack.

Yeah, the guy fathered a child when he was in his mid-50s, but that's not really that big of a deal. Actor Anthony Quinn fathered a child when he was in his early 80s, Tony Randall when he was in his late 70s.
 
2011-10-23 06:16:36 AM
It's a big deal when you figure that kids odds of losing his father at a young age have increased dramatically.
 
2011-10-23 06:28:28 AM
DaCricket: It's a big deal when you figure that kids odds of losing his father at a young age have increased dramatically.

Yes, that's a valid point, but there are other possibilities as well. This could be the guy's stepchild too or the child may have been adopted.

Or he may have just become a father late in life.
 
2011-10-23 11:13:10 AM
At first I was thinking: "A .25 automatic? That gun is almost worthless as a self-defense weapon."

Then I realized: "Hey, this was just a kindergarten class. How much firepower do you really need to protect yourself from an attacking five-year-old? Also, her daughter probably couldn't handle the recoil of a larger-caliber pistol."

So, kudos to mom for arming her daughter appropriately.
 
2011-10-23 11:18:36 AM
Oops, just saw that the girl is six, and it was a first-grade class. Hmmmmm. Oh well, still probably the right gun for the situation.
 
2011-10-23 11:32:47 AM
Bathia_Mapes: DaCricket: I think the most important thing to take from this article is that there is a 60 year old out there with a kid in kindergarten. Poor kid.

Which article did you read?


The one you apparently didn't.

"No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.
 
2011-10-23 11:37:29 AM
"No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I can just hear a gong movie sound affect at the end of that quote.
 
2011-10-23 11:38:20 AM
You would expect more responsibility from a family of that calibre.
 
2011-10-23 11:39:13 AM
In the whole process of being trained in firearms(NYPD), having a gun in the house(OK), having it loaded(OK)....when does it enter the mind that putting it in the kids backpack (I'll take it out later) is a good thing to do?

How does that thought process work?

Of all the dangerous/deadly things I might have in the house (and there are quite a few)...the kids backpack is quite possibly the last place I would think of. Anywhere else but that.
 
2011-10-23 11:39:31 AM
gwydion56: Oops, just saw that the girl is six, and it was a first-grade class. Hmmmmm. Oh well, still probably the right gun for the situation.

Silver lining, eh? Always look on the bright side of life!
+1 for pic of smoking gun.... wow. Nothing sensational there.
 
2011-10-23 11:39:39 AM
Obviously the 1st grader violated school policy and should be expelled.
 
2011-10-23 11:40:54 AM
What struck me was the need for therapists and scared children.

Me thinks that the REACTION to the incident caused the fear.

Scenario #1 (the sane one): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "Oh my, come with me honey. Class, be quiet for a moment I will be right back". Teacher to principal " Looks like we have a child who accidentally brought a gun." Principal, "Ok, go back to your class, I will call the police and the parents". Principal to police "No problem, I have the weapon, the child is only 6 and probably accidentally grabbed it. Can you send plain clothes so the kids do not notice".
Result, most kids don't know a thing.

Scenario #2 (the other): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "OH MY GOD, Children run, get out fast. Everybody is going to die." Screams down the hall. Principal rushes in as children are trampling out of classrooms. Principal, "Oh my God, a GUN, everyone run. Lockdown the school. Tackle that little girl and detain her for questioning". Principal to police, "WE HAVE A GUN IN THE SCHOOL. SEND EVERYONE.... EVERYONE!!!!"
Result, SWAT teams, panicked children and teachers without info and a media circus.

/ probably something in between
// but seriously, therapists? For what, seeing a gun?
 
2011-10-23 11:41:27 AM
Bathia_Mapes: DaCricket: FTFA: "No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

:o)

Ah, I thought you were referring to the child's mother who put a gun in her daughter's backpack.

Yeah, the guy fathered a child when he was in his mid-50s, but that's not really that big of a deal. Actor Anthony Quinn fathered a child when he was in his early 80s, Tony Randall when he was in his late 70s.


Not only that: "A retired NYPD detective nearly caused a tragedy on Tuesday when she put a loaded pistol in her daughter's backpack - and the girl inadvertently brought it to school. Marian Brioso, 46, of Staten Island, put her .25-caliber Taurus handgun in her 6-year-old daughter's book bag, planning to remove it later, police sources said."


I'm curious why she is retired at 46. According to this article, it seems after 20 years of service you can retire, and there are a lot of retirees under 50 for the NYC Gov't.

 
2011-10-23 11:42:40 AM
FTA: The girl's scared classmates met with school therapists on Wednesday.

Then they went home and watched Scarface.
Really? Therapists? Get over it, Nancy.
 
2011-10-23 11:42:55 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: In the whole process of being trained in firearms(NYPD), having a gun in the house(OK), having it loaded(OK)....when does it enter the mind that putting it in the kids backpack (I'll take it out later) is a good thing to do?

How does that thought process work?

Of all the dangerous/deadly things I might have in the house (and there are quite a few)...the kids backpack is quite possibly the last place I would think of. Anywhere else but that.


C'mon, maybe they accidentally switched backpacks.
Daughter pulls out gun for lunch, mom pulls out a Lunchables to drop a felon. It's cool.
 
2011-10-23 11:44:51 AM
bibli0phile: What struck me was the need for therapists and scared children.

Me thinks that the REACTION to the incident caused the fear.

Scenario #1 (the sane one): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "Oh my, come with me honey. Class, be quiet for a moment I will be right back". Teacher to principal " Looks like we have a child who accidentally brought a gun." Principal, "Ok, go back to your class, I will call the police and the parents". Principal to police "No problem, I have the weapon, the child is only 6 and probably accidentally grabbed it. Can you send plain clothes so the kids do not notice".
Result, most kids don't know a thing.

Scenario #2 (the other): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "OH MY GOD, Children run, get out fast. Everybody is going to die." Screams down the hall. Principal rushes in as children are trampling out of classrooms. Principal, "Oh my God, a GUN, everyone run. Lockdown the school. Tackle that little girl and detain her for questioning". Principal to police, "WE HAVE A GUN IN THE SCHOOL. SEND EVERYONE.... EVERYONE!!!!"
Result, SWAT teams, panicked children and teachers without info and a media circus.

/ probably something in between
// but seriously, therapists? For what, seeing a gun?


Hit the nail right on the head. Everything now has to be blown out of all proportion and turned into a huge farking production.
 
2011-10-23 11:47:10 AM
Ex-NYPD cop knows to not let her kid go to school unarmed.
 
2011-10-23 11:49:57 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: In the whole process of being trained in firearms(NYPD), having a gun in the house(OK), having it loaded(OK)....when does it enter the mind that putting it in the kids backpack (I'll take it out later) is a good thing to do?

How does that thought process work?

Of all the dangerous/deadly things I might have in the house (and there are quite a few)...the kids backpack is quite possibly the last place I would think of. Anywhere else but that.


This is where I keep all of my highly venomous reptiles. They like the dark in there.
 
2011-10-23 11:50:57 AM
Retired NYPD ? A .25 cal pistol ? That's a throwdown piece if I ever saw one
 
2011-10-23 11:51:07 AM
Nice place to hide your gun.
 
2011-10-23 11:52:47 AM
School administrators called 911 after discovering the weapon...

Seriously? I thought that was for emergencies. I don't know how it is in NYC, but in my town the cops have a different number that they encourage you to use when it's not a life-or-death situation.
 
2011-10-23 11:52:51 AM
bibli0phile: What struck me was the need for therapists and scared children.

Me thinks that the REACTION to the incident caused the fear.

Scenario #1 (the sane one): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "Oh my, come with me honey. Class, be quiet for a moment I will be right back". Teacher to principal " Looks like we have a child who accidentally brought a gun." Principal, "Ok, go back to your class, I will call the police and the parents". Principal to police "No problem, I have the weapon, the child is only 6 and probably accidentally grabbed it. Can you send plain clothes so the kids do not notice".
Result, most kids don't know a thing.

Scenario #2 (the other): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "OH MY GOD, Children run, get out fast. Everybody is going to die." Screams down the hall. Principal rushes in as children are trampling out of classrooms. Principal, "Oh my God, a GUN, everyone run. Lockdown the school. Tackle that little girl and detain her for questioning". Principal to police, "WE HAVE A GUN IN THE SCHOOL. SEND EVERYONE.... EVERYONE!!!!"
Result, SWAT teams, panicked children and teachers without info and a media circus.

/ probably something in between
// but seriously, therapists? For what, seeing a gun?


Good point. In my mind, it really is yet another argument for everyone having enough familiarity with firearms to unload one and render it safe in situations like this. Really, the ignorance of people who "hate guns" has the potential to be extremely dangerous. If you're a pacifist, that's fine, but don't be ignorant. Knowing firearm safety is a useful life skill.
 
2011-10-23 11:55:46 AM
skinink: I'm curious why she is retired at 46.

Because 22 years of service is retirement. Link (new window) Calendar age does not count.
 
2011-10-23 11:57:34 AM
She joined the force in 1994 and is now retired? That's the job for me!
 
2011-10-23 11:59:20 AM
Sir_Farkalot: bibli0phile: What struck me was the need for therapists and scared children.

Me thinks that the REACTION to the incident caused the fear.

Scenario #1 (the sane one): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "Oh my, come with me honey. Class, be quiet for a moment I will be right back". Teacher to principal " Looks like we have a child who accidentally brought a gun." Principal, "Ok, go back to your class, I will call the police and the parents". Principal to police "No problem, I have the weapon, the child is only 6 and probably accidentally grabbed it. Can you send plain clothes so the kids do not notice".
Result, most kids don't know a thing.

Scenario #2 (the other): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "OH MY GOD, Children run, get out fast. Everybody is going to die." Screams down the hall. Principal rushes in as children are trampling out of classrooms. Principal, "Oh my God, a GUN, everyone run. Lockdown the school. Tackle that little girl and detain her for questioning". Principal to police, "WE HAVE A GUN IN THE SCHOOL. SEND EVERYONE.... EVERYONE!!!!"
Result, SWAT teams, panicked children and teachers without info and a media circus.

/ probably something in between
// but seriously, therapists? For what, seeing a gun?

Good point. In my mind, it really is yet another argument for everyone having enough familiarity with firearms to unload one and render it safe in situations like this. Really, the ignorance of people who "hate guns" has the potential to be extremely dangerous. If you're a pacifist, that's fine, but don't be ignorant. Knowing firearm safety is a useful life skill.


You, sir, are correct.
 
2011-10-23 12:09:40 PM
elkraf: She joined the force in 1994 and is now retired? That's the job for me!

Yeah, 1994 - 2011 is only 17 years max (depending on when she retired). Some sort of 'Oh my, I pulled a muscle in my back, oh woe is me, I shall be forced to medically retire' BS. Seen it too much in the ex's world.
 
2011-10-23 12:14:40 PM
BarbadoSlim: "No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I can just hear a gong movie sound affect at the end of that quote.


You want bring gun to school? You dishonor family!
 
2011-10-23 12:18:50 PM
Sir_Farkalot: bibli0phile: What struck me was the need for therapists and scared children.

Me thinks that the REACTION to the incident caused the fear.

Scenario #1 (the sane one): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "Oh my, come with me honey. Class, be quiet for a moment I will be right back". Teacher to principal " Looks like we have a child who accidentally brought a gun." Principal, "Ok, go back to your class, I will call the police and the parents". Principal to police "No problem, I have the weapon, the child is only 6 and probably accidentally grabbed it. Can you send plain clothes so the kids do not notice".
Result, most kids don't know a thing.

Scenario #2 (the other): "Teacher, I have something weird in my bag". Teacher looks, "OH MY GOD, Children run, get out fast. Everybody is going to die." Screams down the hall. Principal rushes in as children are trampling out of classrooms. Principal, "Oh my God, a GUN, everyone run. Lockdown the school. Tackle that little girl and detain her for questioning". Principal to police, "WE HAVE A GUN IN THE SCHOOL. SEND EVERYONE.... EVERYONE!!!!"
Result, SWAT teams, panicked children and teachers without info and a media circus.

/ probably something in between
// but seriously, therapists? For what, seeing a gun?

Good point. In my mind, it really is yet another argument for everyone having enough familiarity with firearms to unload one and render it safe in situations like this. Really, the ignorance of people who "hate guns" has the potential to be extremely dangerous. If you're a pacifist, that's fine, but don't be ignorant. Knowing firearm safety is a useful life skill.


So much this. Things are getting ridiculous.

Last week I pulled up to the grade school where I volunteer and there were 6 squad cars out front with their lights flashing. I was unable to go in for a while because they were on lockdown. Eventually things settle down and I got in and found out that one of the Cub Scouts had a pocket knife in his backpack.

Apparently that warranted scaring kids and parents, locking down the school, and pretty much preventing kids from doing any learning that day.

/in my day, they would not have cared. or the teacher would have taken the knife, put it in her desk drawer and gave it back after school
//csb
 
2011-10-23 12:20:28 PM
Kyoki: elkraf: She joined the force in 1994 and is now retired? That's the job for me!

Yeah, 1994 - 2011 is only 17 years max (depending on when she retired). Some sort of 'Oh my, I pulled a muscle in my back, oh woe is me, I shall be forced to medically retire' BS. Seen it too much in the ex's world.


Could have been a buy out as well.
 
2011-10-23 12:21:22 PM
Kyoki: elkraf: She joined the force in 1994 and is now retired? That's the job for me!

Yeah, 1994 - 2011 is only 17 years max (depending on when she retired). Some sort of 'Oh my, I pulled a muscle in my back, oh woe is me, I shall be forced to medically retire' BS. Seen it too much in the ex's world.


Those will be the guys that raise the most hell about how entitlements are destroying our country, more often than not
 
2011-10-23 12:21:25 PM
"Sorry, little girl, we have a zero-tolerance policy regarding weapons. Policy is that you must be expell....What? Your mom's an ex-cop? Never mind."
 
2011-10-23 12:27:58 PM
Chinchillazilla: You want bring gun to school? You dishonor family!

You have twenty-five carriber? Why no Free-fifty-seven? Why no forry-four???

/I am so sorry.
 
2011-10-23 12:29:57 PM
Government Fromage: Last week I pulled up to the grade school where I volunteer and there were 6 squad cars out front with their lights flashing. I was unable to go in for a while because they were on lockdown. Eventually things settle down and I got in and found out that one of the Cub Scouts had a pocket knife in his backpack.

And yet it's apparently the UK that has been "pussified", whatever the hell that means, according to Fark........

/not aimed at you, Monsieur Cheese, but there seem to be a lot of Farkers on here who suggest that the UK has somehow wimped out compared to the US. I know a school near me in the UK where there was less response when a troubled child was caught walking in with a shotgun - they persuaded him to give it to them and then one police car came along to find out what was going on (and to tell his dad that he'd be losing his shotgun certificate, amongst other things)....
 
2011-10-23 12:37:32 PM
I wonder what will happen now. The only thing that might save the parents from an overreacting D.A. is the fact that the mother is an ex-co[p and the dad a working high ranking officer. Otherwise, these folks might be getting the full perp walk, child endangerment, weapons, child porn, racketeering, etc..
 
2011-10-23 12:45:58 PM
Allen. The end.: Chinchillazilla: You want bring gun to school? You dishonor family!

You have twenty-five carriber? Why no Free-fifty-seven? Why no forry-four???

/I am so sorry.


I snerked, like the wacist pig I am.
 
2011-10-23 12:51:23 PM
AcneVulgaris: I snerked, like the wacist pig I am.

I used to work retail at a shop where NO ONE answered the phone. After many consecutive rings (and no, I don't know to this day why didn't just pick up the goddamn thing), I would whisper:

"Him no hee-ar."

Then more loudly:

Him no HEE-ar."

And finally:

FOR RUV OF CHRYSS! HIM NO HEEYAH!"

/i suck
 
2011-10-23 12:53:10 PM
Bathia_Mapes: DaCricket: FTFA: "No one was hurt - but maybe she don't know it's real gun and bang, bang, bang," said Steve Chang, 60, of Chinatown, whose son is a kindergartner at the Mott St. school.

:o)

Ah, I thought you were referring to the child's mother who put a gun in her daughter's backpack.

Yeah, the guy fathered a child when he was in his mid-50s, but that's not really that big of a deal. Actor Anthony Quinn fathered a child when he was in his early 80s, Tony Randall when he was in his late 70s.


It's New York, foax. Second wives are big man-status. With second wives come second families, which prove that both your money and your dcik are still in da house.
 
2011-10-23 01:01:07 PM
Mr. Potatoass: You would expect more responsibility from a family of that calibre.

Well played, sir. Well played.
 
2011-10-23 01:10:27 PM
Tennozan: YouPeopleAreCrazy: In the whole process of being trained in firearms(NYPD), having a gun in the house(OK), having it loaded(OK)....when does it enter the mind that putting it in the kids backpack (I'll take it out later) is a good thing to do?

How does that thought process work?

Of all the dangerous/deadly things I might have in the house (and there are quite a few)...the kids backpack is quite possibly the last place I would think of. Anywhere else but that.

C'mon, maybe they accidentally switched backpacks.
Daughter pulls out gun for lunch, mom pulls out a Lunchables to drop a felon. It's cool.


Probably realistic. Have you ever TASTED Lunchables?
 
2011-10-23 01:13:56 PM
46 is pretty old for a woman to have a kid in first grade, too. 40 is pretty old to go through pregnancy and birth. It's harder on both parties. My son has second-grade classmates with grandmothers who are 46. Maybe this lady adopted or something, but since you called out Grandpa McMidlife up there I figured I had to chime in.
 
2011-10-23 01:14:14 PM
Just in case no one said it: the girl brought the gun on purpose and the family is just covering. Face.
 
2011-10-23 01:14:50 PM
Xaneidolon: School administrators called 911 after discovering the weapon...

Seriously? I thought that was for emergencies. I don't know how it is in NYC, but in my town the cops have a different number that they encourage you to use when it's not a life-or-death situation.


When I lived in Texas (Arlington, to be specific) 911 was the non-emergency number as well.
I was really inhibited about calling it.
 
2011-10-23 01:17:59 PM
MillyQPublic: My son has second-grade classmates with grandmothers who are 46. .

Yeah, but to be fair, your kid is going to school in Kentucky.

(I assume...)
 
2011-10-23 01:23:44 PM
I.m guessing that the mother is an ex-cop because she kept leaving her gun in places it shouldn't be.
 
2011-10-23 02:04:37 PM
gwydion56: At first I was thinking: "A .25 automatic? That gun is almost worthless as a self-defense weapon."

Then I realized: "Hey, this was just a kindergarten class. How much firepower do you really need to protect yourself from an attacking five-year-old? Also, her daughter probably couldn't handle the recoil of a larger-caliber pistol."

So, kudos to mom for arming her daughter appropriately.


Okay, let's see. I'll take the .25, you take a crowbar, and you try to break into my house. Let's see how hard you can hit with your lungs perforated like swiss cheese.
 
2011-10-23 02:08:03 PM
The tone and word choice in this article.
Way off the mark.

According to the fear level in there, it's amazing any child made it out alive.

Switch the word gun to bomb, hand grenade or jar of anthrax. Then it matches the scare level presented.
 
2011-10-23 02:13:27 PM
Something tells me that if the parent wasn't a cop they wouldn't treat this so lightly.
 
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