And at the end:

Gorilla; "Daddy, why are you out there swimming, come over here!"

Dad: "Nah, gotta swim, but enjoy thinking that I'm abandoning you again."

Nope. No soul there whatsoever. That thing's just an empty assemblage of meat and isn't capable of higher reasoning or emotion.

Yet people still hunt Gorillas.

I do not know where to draw the line, but Gorillas, Chimps and Orangs are close enough to Human that hunting them should be considered murder.

And imprisoning them in zoos, considered kidnapping, at the least.

I'm a sucker for this crap.

Gorillas in the Dust?

socodog: Nope. No soul there whatsoever. That thing's just an empty assemblage of meat and isn't capable of higher reasoning or emotion.

You'd be surprised how many people think like that... I had this argument with this guy at work but I ended it before it got violent... It went something like this: when you see an animal's legs, you know it's just like your legs, it supports the animal and gives structure to the muscles. When you see an animal's eye, you know there's light going through a lens and hitting a retina, just like us. When you see an animal has a brain, it's just like ...

ARGH ANIMALS ARE DUMB ROBOTS WE ARE SPECIAL

Thank you subby.

Quantum Apostrophe: socodog: Nope. No soul there whatsoever. That thing's just an empty assemblage of meat and isn't capable of higher reasoning or emotion.

You'd be surprised how many people think like that... I had this argument with this guy at work but I ended it before it got violent... It went something like this: when you see an animal's legs, you know it's just like your legs, it supports the animal and gives structure to the muscles. When you see an animal's eye, you know there's light going through a lens and hitting a retina, just like us. When you see an animal has a brain, it's just like ...

ARGH ANIMALS ARE DUMB ROBOTS WE ARE SPECIAL

I finally see the light. Please go apologize for human behavior to a gorilla, I'm sure it'll understand.

So basically, he abandoned the gorilla for a second time.

Animals do sense loss; look at the gorilla's face.

Gorillas in the Missed?

KnowEyeInnTeem: Gorillas in the Missed?

Yours is better.

Next week's headline: Man killed by gorilla he raised because it's still a farking wild animal!

/seriously, no matter how cute a primate may be, they're not domesticated
//even if you raised them

Find year old YouTube video on another site, post to Fark.

Write that down, it's the ticket to green light heaven.

What a "gorilla" may look like.

/obscure?

It's all about spindle cells.

Humans have them. So do gorillas, some whales, dolphins, and perhaps elephants.

They are what allows an animal to form complex emotional ties and awareness of themselves as an individual.

The Japanese still hunt whales-- creatures that have been proven to have a sense of self-awareness and individuality-- and we don't do much to stop them, despite it being more like murder than any abortion ever would be (difference: The whales are grown and have formed family connections, memories, and friendships. An embryo (of any species) is incapable of thought.)

And yes, people hunt gorillas too, when we've basically proven that they are self-aware, capable of complex communication with us (and of course their own species), and that they have a sense of individuality and an understanding of what death really means ("I cease to exist").

Spindle cells, my friends, may well be the factor that determines if a creature is capable of achieving what we know as sentience. These cells are only present in the brains of a few species on Earth. We'd be wise to recognize that just because another species has different priorities, language, and capabilities, it does not mean they are not as self-aware as we are.

Yes, slaughter goats and cows for meat. Yes, eat chickens and their eggs. Yes, have some fish for dinner. That's fine. They're animals without spindle cells. They aren't self-aware. They are not on the cusp of sentience. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

I'm no PETA fan (they're crazy) but I do believe that we, as a species, should agree that when another species is determined to be at least somewhat self-aware, somewhat sentient, that we should stop butchering them for food, clothes, aphrodisiacs, or sport.

If a creature can recognize itself as an individual, then it's time to back off and let them develop without human interference.

Twin 40s: KnowEyeInnTeem: Gorillas in the Missed?

Yours is better.

At least yours makes sense. But, when you post something on Fark that could have other humorous variations, you gonna get aped.

*Sniff*
Stuff like this makes me forget about the NBA lockout for a little while.

Mr. Potatoass: *Sniff*
Stuff like this makes me forget about the NBA lockout for a little while.

Did this make me laugh for the reason you intended it to?

tomWright: I do not know where to draw the line, but Gorillas, Chimps and Orangs are close enough to Human that hunting them should be considered murder.

And imprisoning them in zoos, considered kidnapping, at the least.


This. And they're smart enough to understand much of our language whereas we barely understand theirs.

ZeroCorpse: It's all about spindle cells.

Humans have them. So do gorillas, some whales, dolphins, and perhaps elephants.

They are what allows an animal to form complex emotional ties and awareness of themselves as an individual.

The Japanese still hunt whales-- creatures that have been proven to have a sense of self-awareness and individuality-- and we don't do much to stop them, despite it being more like murder than any abortion ever would be (difference: The whales are grown and have formed family connections, memories, and friendships. An embryo (of any species) is incapable of thought.)

And yes, people hunt gorillas too, when we've basically proven that they are self-aware, capable of complex communication with us (and of course their own species), and that they have a sense of individuality and an understanding of what death really means ("I cease to exist").

Spindle cells, my friends, may well be the factor that determines if a creature is capable of achieving what we know as sentience. These cells are only present in the brains of a few species on Earth. We'd be wise to recognize that just because another species has different priorities, language, and capabilities, it does not mean they are not as self-aware as we are.

Yes, slaughter goats and cows for meat. Yes, eat chickens and their eggs. Yes, have some fish for dinner. That's fine. They're animals without spindle cells. They aren't self-aware. They are not on the cusp of sentience. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

I'm no PETA fan (they're crazy) but I do believe that we, as a species, should agree that when another species is determined to be at least somewhat self-aware, somewhat sentient, that we should stop butchering them for food, clothes, aphrodisiacs, or sport.

If a creature can recognize itself as an individual, then it's time to back off and let them develop without human interference.

This, if true. (though plan ahead and include 'for terrestrial life' somewhere in there. Let's be pro-active gentle-beings)

Whether spindle cells, whatever they are, or some other method, having a clear cut way to determine something like this would be wonderful.

TripSixes: And at the end:

Gorilla; "Daddy, why are you out there swimming, come over here!"

Dad: "Nah, gotta swim, but enjoy thinking that I'm abandoning you again."

That gorilla will remember that his Dad until the day he dies. I know without language his thoughts must be strange but I can't help but wonder what he thought about being visited by this man again.... he know's his dad is not a gorilla but a being different from his kind.... must feel like be visited by an angel

Scottybobotty: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

What a "gorilla" may look like.

/obscure?

Not NEARLY obscure enough for Fark.

/ya fish-eyed fool

KnowEyeInnTeem: Twin 40s: KnowEyeInnTeem: Gorillas in the Missed?

Yours is better.

At least yours makes sense. But, when you post something on Fark that could have other humorous variations, you gonna get aped.

Nah, yours is still better because it's a pun, and people on Fark go apeshiat over puns.

Argonreality: Scottybobotty: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

What a "gorilla" may look like.

/obscure?

Not NEARLY obscure enough for Fark.

/ya fish-eyed fool

A winner is you!

Ha! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYAH.

socodog: Nope. No soul there whatsoever. That thing's just an empty assemblage of meat and isn't capable of higher reasoning or emotion.


I'm sorry, I was finishing up this hamburger topped with bacon... could you repeat that?

They look like they'd make really good workers.

Marine1: socodog: Nope. No soul there whatsoever. That thing's just an empty assemblage of meat and isn't capable of higher reasoning or emotion.


I'm sorry, I was finishing up this hamburger topped with bacon... could you repeat that?

Some souls just taste really, really good.

eatin' fetus: I finally see the light. Please go apologize for human behavior to a gorilla, I'm sure it'll understand.

FWIW, your Fark handle and comments like this one fairly scream "Look how edgy I am! Pay attention to me!"

limboslam: Some souls just taste really, really good.

I hope he at least spent the better part of the day there. It's hard to tell from the video how long he visited.

lisarenee3505: Next week's headline: Man killed by gorilla he raised because it's still a farking wild animal!

/seriously, no matter how cute a primate may be, they're not domesticated
//even if you raised them

Today's headline (and tomorrow's, and the next day's): Man killed by another man because we're still farking wild animals!

/seriously. You're really claiming that a gorilla's ability to attack a person makes them somehow more dangerous than humans who attack each other all the farking time?
//even when they're your spouse, sibling, child, or parent

ThisNameSux: Find year old YouTube video on another site, post to Fark.

Write that down, it's the ticket to green light heaven.

This. But it is a good clip.

ArkAngel: It takes a great deal to upset a gorilla

I pissed off a gorilla at the zoo once. He was sitting near the plexiglass and I was sitting near him on the other side and apparently this was sending very wrong signals to him. He got up, wandered a way, then charged the plexiglass and rammed it with his hip.

A leopard once got up from sitting on a branch at the back of the exhibit to pace in front of me making low growling noises. I think it had to do with me turning toward her while looking at her.

I'm not allowed to go near large animals in the wild.

MacGabhain: ArkAngel: It takes a great deal to upset a gorilla

I pissed off a gorilla at the zoo once. He was sitting near the plexiglass and I was sitting near him on the other side and apparently this was sending very wrong signals to him. He got up, wandered a way, then charged the plexiglass and rammed it with his hip.

A leopard once got up from sitting on a branch at the back of the exhibit to pace in front of me making low growling noises. I think it had to do with me turning toward her while looking at her.

I'm not allowed to go near large animals in the wild.

Damien?

theorellior: ArkAngel: Chimps have even been known to steal and eat human infants and make war on other bands of chimps. They also attack without warning and are more concerned with facing the threat and destroying it.

Ahh, yes, our closest animal relatives. The resemblance is striking, don't you think?

our closest animal relative is the bonobo. bonobos are one of the least agressive types of apes/chimps.

ArkAngel:



It takes a great deal to upset a gorilla, they are very sedate animals.

I hope it killed him and motherf*cking ate him.

/you never go back to the scene of the crime
//ever

stonelotus: theorellior: ArkAngel: Chimps have even been known to steal and eat human infants and make war on other bands of chimps. They also attack without warning and are more concerned with facing the threat and destroying it.

Ahh, yes, our closest animal relatives. The resemblance is striking, don't you think?

our closest animal relative is the bonobo. bonobos are one of the least agressive types of apes/chimps.

In fact, their number one method of conflict resolution is farking. . .no, not reading and commenting on Fark--they are far too sensible for that--I'm talking about wild monkey, er ape, sex. It's also the basis of their economy. They work off the groin standard.

stonelotus: theorellior: ArkAngel: Chimps have even been known to steal and eat human infants and make war on other bands of chimps. They also attack without warning and are more concerned with facing the threat and destroying it.

Ahh, yes, our closest animal relatives. The resemblance is striking, don't you think?

our closest animal relative is the bonobo. bonobos are one of the least agressive types of apes/chimps.

Humans split from chimps (or the H-C-B common ancestor), and then later on Bonobos split off. You could say bonobos and chimps are equally closely related to humans, but I don't see how you could say bonobos are closer.

It would be interesting to know how the behavior of that common ancestor compared to humans, chimps, and bonobos.

pudding7: theorellior: tomWright: I do not know where to draw the line, but Gorillas, Chimps and Orangs are close enough to Human that hunting them should be considered murder.

I pretty much agree with this statement.

If I was wealthy enough to afford it, I'd find some way to put a bounty on poachers.

Poachers, for the large part, are people living in poverty trying to support their families, using the only local resource they're aware of to try to get ahead. The people that hire and pay the poachers, however, deserve to be spatchcocked alive. Especially those dickheads that think Rhino horn makes their shrivelled old tonker hard again.