Hey subby, I'm trying not to occupy my parents house. Some of us have dreams of moving out of our childhood bedrooms/the basement.

They don't need all that money, either

Fark it, i'm moving in tomorrow, my "bedroom" there is bigger than this shiathole and has a better bathroom. And the kitchen...Holy fark, why did wait so long?

Fark: I'm not kidding about any of this.

The only reason I'm in my parents home, at this point, is that I haven't found a ground floor apartment with less than two steps to the parking.

I'm not handicapped or lazy, it's that on Mondays I have to take 8-12 boxes full of books to the UPS center and that requires a dolly. Well, the part about bringing in 400+ pounds of books from the truck, 40 pounds at a time, might also count.



A fair week's work. Hell, I keep this going I might just buy a crapped out house at foreclosure auction on the courthouse steps.

It's nice to know the US doesn't have a monopoly on hypocritical douchebags.

archichris: America should build retirement communities for our seniors in Mexico, where their SS check will stretch farther, the utility bills will be lower, and help can be hired much cheaper than in American nursing homes. We are heading into seasonal sob stories about Chicago seniors who wind up homeless because they cannot afford their heating bills.........Because of course they live in Chicago and cannot perform basic math functions in a monthly budget.

Honduras, its like Mexico but not shiatty. Sure the people are a little brown but not as mexican.

rebelyell2006: Hey subby, I'm trying not to occupy my parents house. Some of us have dreams of moving out of our childhood bedrooms/the basement.

Welcome to FARK?

In all seriousness though, the shortage of million dollar homes for young families in Britain, is a legitimate cause for concern.

I moved out of my parents' house, bought my own and then moved back in after moving back to my home state and having to wait for my house to sell.

I'm living numerous dreams out at once.

/occupy your parents
//if they're those things from star wars. otherwise that's weird.

And (i'm not positive) but i dont think its illegal for white people to buy ocean front property there either.

Curious: But Ms Jowell is the first Labour MP to demand that older people vacate privately owned homes to make room for families.

She said: 'This important report shows in stark relief how young people are struggling to raise a family in a home of their own.'

notice how there is no mention of the old folks getting paid for their homes. cuz it's damned sure the young struggling people can't afford to.

So why don't we just realize that GB runs about 20 years ahead of the US on social policies and take this as the warning that it is?

So this guy wants to lower taxes on old people selling their homes and therefore he's an evil hypocrite(because his parents haven't sold his?)
All he's farking talking about is a farking tax incentive you farking idiots.

archichris: America should build retirement communities for our seniors in Mexico, where their SS check will stretch farther, the utility bills will be lower, and help can be hired much cheaper than in American nursing homes.

Also, being decapitated by a druglord and having your body dumped in front of a police station is a more exciting way to die than old age.

That cretin is in dire need of a broken nose and a split lip.

sinschild: Curious: But Ms Jowell is the first Labour MP to demand that older people vacate privately owned homes to make room for families.

She said: 'This important report shows in stark relief how young people are struggling to raise a family in a home of their own.'

notice how there is no mention of the old folks getting paid for their homes. cuz it's damned sure the young struggling people can't afford to.

So why don't we just realize that GB runs about 20 years ahead of the US on social policies and take this as the warning that it is?

Because the U.K. is about the size of the great lakes.

sinschild: Curious: But Ms Jowell is the first Labour MP to demand that older people vacate privately owned homes to make room for families.

She said: 'This important report shows in stark relief how young people are struggling to raise a family in a home of their own.'

notice how there is no mention of the old folks getting paid for their homes. cuz it's damned sure the young struggling people can't afford to.

So why don't we just realize that GB runs about 20 years ahead of the US on social policies and take this as the warning that it is?

No mention of the old folks getting paid?? CAN YOU NOT farkING READ YOU farkING RETARDED PIECE OF shiat?!?
This guy wants to remove the tax on selling property for old people to incentivise moving to a smaller place. This has nothing to do with taking homes from old people.

Coelacanth: That cretin is in dire need of a broken nose and a split lip.

Do badly written trash articles from the daily mail frequently inspire you to violence? You might be a farkwit.

Last week Angus Hanton and his Labour-backed think-tank launched a report saying that 'empty nesters' should be 'encouraged' through a new land tax to downsize.

That's not an Incentive... That's raising that tax until they can no longer afford to live there, forcing them to sell.

So......very......punchable!

Ringo48: being decapitated by a druglord and having your body dumped in front of a police station is a more exciting way to die than old age

And I could continue to smoke and drink, well into my golden years, if I'm going to die by a gangland hit anyway.

BradleyUffner: Last week Angus Hanton and his Labour-backed think-tank launched a report saying that 'empty nesters' should be 'encouraged' through a new land tax to downsize.

That's not an Incentive... That's raising that tax until they can no longer afford to live there, forcing them to sell.

Nah, they were talking about removing the tax they pay when selling. That is incentive.

CygnusDarius: thisisarepeat: archichris: America should build retirement communities for our seniors in Mexico, where their SS check will stretch farther, the utility bills will be lower, and help can be hired much cheaper than in American nursing homes. We are heading into seasonal sob stories about Chicago seniors who wind up homeless because they cannot afford their heating bills.........Because of course they live in Chicago and cannot perform basic math functions in a monthly budget.

Honduras, its like Mexico but not shiatty. Sure the people are a little brown but not as mexican.

Sonora. Closer to the border and safer than, say, Tamaulipas, or anywhere near Baja California.

Thats a good point, you never know when one of the lesser countries might be invaded (militarily) where as the U.S. is pretty much impossible to invade.

sandinista!: BradleyUffner: Last week Angus Hanton and his Labour-backed think-tank launched a report saying that 'empty nesters' should be 'encouraged' through a new land tax to downsize.

That's not an Incentive... That's raising that tax until they can no longer afford to live there, forcing them to sell.

Nah, they were talking about removing the tax they pay when selling. That is incentive.

oh sure! more tax cuts for the rich.

Coelacanth: That cretin is in dire need of a broken nose and a split lip.

i think he should get a metal. maybe even a gold one. he is just saying what we are all thinking. throw your baby boomer parents out on the street like the bums that they are, and take their stuff. we could all live the lives we rightfully deserve.

guy is a genious. give him a metal.

DoeBathia_Mapes: sandinista!: So this guy wants to lower taxes on old people selling their homes and therefore he's an evil hypocrite(because his parents haven't sold his?)
All he's farking talking about is a farking tax incentive you farking idiots.

FTFA...On his group's website Mr Hanton says he is 'an economist and entrepreneur'. He neglects to mention he runs a thriving company selling plots of woodland, often to wealthy buyers taking advantage of tax sweeteners for forestry owners.

And while his report suggests exempting older people from stamp duty when they move to smaller homes, he is just as keen to help his affluent clients avoid it, too.

Speaking in 2002, he said: 'Most woodland we deal in is worth less than £60,000 to avoid stamp duty.'

Woodland owners are also exempt from capital gains tax, income tax and inheritance tax on their investment.



Sounds more like he's more interested in interested in padding his pockets than giving seniors a tax break when they sell their homes. I don't know what they call people like him in the U.K., but in the U.S. he'd be called a land speculator.

Yep, but eh, what does selling land cheaply can allowing seniors to sell their houses cheaply have to do with each other? Except that they both involve a lowering of land tax? It seems to me like the article conflates to separate issues. One, he wants seniors to move to smaller places so he wants the tax lowered on selling those properties. Two, he helps(for his own gain) people buy and sell plots of woodland without having to pay a similar tax. How is any of this evil?

Basically what I'm saying is that this article is massively and intentionally deceptive and none of you have the reading comprehension to figure it out. Wow.

some_beer_drinker: Coelacanth: That cretin is in dire need of a broken nose and a split lip.

i think he should get a metal. maybe even a gold one. he is just saying what we are all thinking. throw your baby boomer parents out on the street like the bums that they are, and take their stuff. we could all live the lives we rightfully deserve.

guy is a genious. give him a metal.


medal...its medal. otherwise its just a euphemism for shooting him in the face.

sandinista!: Basically what I'm saying is that this article is massively and intentionally deceptive and none of you have the reading comprehension to figure it out. Wow.

Repeating the lie won't improve it, Josef. He wants to increase taxes until old people flee from their homes.

Manfred J. Hattan: sandinista!: Basically what I'm saying is that this article is massively and intentionally deceptive and none of you have the reading comprehension to figure it out. Wow.

Repeating the lie won't improve it, Josef. He wants to increase taxes until old people flee from their homes.

It works, Minnesota does it every few years until too many people let the land go for taxes owed. Its just confusing because the U.S. appoints the color blue to communism instead of red.

Outside the actual merits of the article, what subby stated makes me think of a family I knew of when I was in my teens. The parents had a real nice double wide trailer. The father had his own construction company, so two additions were built on in addition to a deck with a pool in the back. It was really nice for a trailer. However, they had 5 kids who refused to leave the house no matter what they tried. Eventually, the father bought a real small crappy camper, and he built it up. It was only big enough for the wife and himself. They sold the trailer and moved to an RV park so the kids couldn't move in no matter how much they tried. By that time, I believe the youngest was 24. Last I heard, several years of mooching still went on, and it eventually led to the oldest, in his 40's, getting drunk and beating the hell out of the old man because he didn't have any money left because his business tanked. Sad, real sad.

thisisarepeat: Manfred J. Hattan: sandinista!: Basically what I'm saying is that this article is massively and intentionally deceptive and none of you have the reading comprehension to figure it out. Wow.

Repeating the lie won't improve it, Josef. He wants to increase taxes until old people flee from their homes.

It works, Minnesota does it every few years until too many people let the land go for taxes owed. Its just confusing because the U.S. appoints the color blue to communism instead of red.

Again, the article only mentions removing a tax, anything else is imagined.

My 80-something parents recently asked me if I wanted their house - the 50-year-old dwelling in which I grew up - after they pass on. I said no, thank you. (Inconvenient location, plus the skeevy factor figured into it.)
They've now got a reverse mortgage on it.
I got no problems with old folks staying in their houses, especially if it's where they raised their family.

Ha. England's small. Just find an empty foreclosed one, break in and change the locks.

Krieghund: sandinista!: BradleyUffner: Last week Angus Hanton and his Labour-backed think-tank launched a report saying that 'empty nesters' should be 'encouraged' through a new land tax to downsize.

That's not an Incentive... That's raising that tax until they can no longer afford to live there, forcing them to sell.

Nah, they were talking about removing the tax they pay when selling. That is incentive.

To quote you from earlier in the thread: CAN YOU NOT farkING READ YOU farkING RETARDED PIECE OF shiat?!?

Because:

Last week Angus Hanton and his Labour-backed think-tank launched a report saying that 'empty nesters' should be 'encouraged' through a new land tax to downsize.

Do you not understand the word "new", the word "land", or the word "tax"?

He ALSO wants to cut the tax when they sell, but BradleyUffner is spot on.

You sure that doesn't mean new as in, different from the previous tax? In that case why doesn't this article at least explain to what extent this new tax is going to affect people? fark the mail is retarded.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15362474 there we go, much better.
SO i guess he does want to raise some taxes too.

sandinista!: thisisarepeat: Manfred J. Hattan: sandinista!: Basically what I'm saying is that this article is massively and intentionally deceptive and none of you have the reading comprehension to figure it out. Wow.

Repeating the lie won't improve it, Josef. He wants to increase taxes until old people flee from their homes.

It works, Minnesota does it every few years until too many people let the land go for taxes owed. Its just confusing because the U.S. appoints the color blue to communism instead of red.

Again, the article only mentions removing a tax, anything else is imagined.

Hey I'm just trying to transport my shackled asian kids to a BETTER orphanage in Detroit, anything else is imagined.