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(MSNBC) Cool Gadhafi's son Saif al-Islam captured alive ... captured. I'm going with captured   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 85
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2011-10-22 10:52:17 PM
I look forward to the shaky low resolution camera phone video of this. I can't wait for 2015 or so when HD quality cell phone cams will have finally gotten to rebel-fighter-in-shiathole pricing and we can see dictator killing in 1080p at 30fps.
 
2011-10-22 11:27:40 PM
Not feeling so saif now, is he
 
2011-10-23 12:10:56 AM
How long before he slips and falls on a bullet?
 
2011-10-23 12:12:58 AM
Score another tyrant for Obama!
 
2011-10-23 12:15:56 AM
cruci fiction: I look forward to the shaky low resolution camera phone video of this. I can't wait for 2015 or so when HD quality cell phone cams will have finally gotten to rebel-fighter-in-shiathole pricing and we can see dictator killing in 1080p at 30fps.

I'm waiting for the day rebel-fighter-in-shiathole learns to hold a camera steady (won't hold my breath though). Watching the average video out of the Middle East should come with a motion sickness warning.
 
2011-10-23 12:16:20 AM
He'll commit suicide in incarceration. How he'll smuggle that semi auto into his holding cell and shoot himself in the back of the head 15 times, they'll never figure out.
 
2011-10-23 12:16:59 AM
Evil overlord rule #38:

If an enemy I have just killed has a younger sibling or offspring anywhere, I will find them and have them killed immediately, instead of waiting for them to grow up harboring feelings of vengeance towards me in my old age.

The Libyan rebels might not be evil overlords but they might want to take this advice anyway.
 
2011-10-23 12:17:22 AM
They'll need another deep freezer, I guess.
 
2011-10-23 12:19:03 AM
It would be best if he remains alive. He speaks flawless English and apparently is very well educated, so we would be able to clearly hear his excuses in court. Of course that makes a lot of assumptions about what happens next.
 
2011-10-23 12:20:36 AM
"Oops he fell down a flight of stairs"
"But its a 1 story building."
"Shush you"
 
2011-10-23 12:22:33 AM
dead in 3, 2, 1...oops
 
2011-10-23 12:22:51 AM
They might keep this one alive as he was far more involved in the running of the goverment that Pops had been for years. Might actually have some useful information they'll want from him before he gets caught in some crossfire.
 
2011-10-23 12:22:55 AM
Clip from the new film "Infidel, Infidel"


Camera pans in on a guard who has opened the cell door to see a beaten and bloody Saif.

Guard: Hey Saif, what are you doing?
Saif: I'm kicking my own ass.

and...scene.
 
2011-10-23 12:25:46 AM
gadian: He'll commit suicide in incarceration.

Nah, this one will convert to Judaism, change his name to Cat Stevens and....whoa, I am farkin drunk, nm
 
2011-10-23 12:28:10 AM
"I cannot understand what he is saying... what is he yelling?"

*BLAM BLAM BLAM*

"He's saying LOOK, I JUST WASHED MY HANDS"
 
2011-10-23 12:31:17 AM
The Obama campaign needs to create a cheap theatrical and patriotic gimmick: say a deck of cards.

It can put all of the terrorist that they've put down on the cards, perhaps reserving the last 26 for Goldman Sachs employees.
 
2011-10-23 12:34:47 AM
Lions in the Valley, huh? We all know what a Lion does when it takes over. Kill the children and start their own lineage. Well...it looks like they're halfway there!

Also,

GoldSpider: Score another tyrant for Obama!

Yeah, who would have thought Obama would be twice as good at killing muslims as the Bushes?
 
2011-10-23 12:38:37 AM
Jesus Christ, he was living under the rule of his father like all the rest of Libya. The fact that he managed to defy his father enough to be considered a "reformer" (probably the only "reformer" in the country who wasn't just disappeared and executed) is enough to earn forgiveness in my book. What did you want him to do? Did you want him to be a superhero and depose his father and install democracy before he even had a chance to assume power?
 
2011-10-23 12:39:04 AM
Dead for Tax Reasons: Not feeling so saif now, is he

Done in two. Well played.
 
2011-10-23 12:43:04 AM
This guy, Saif al-Islam, is a real tragedy.

He's the one son who was actually very reform-minded, started up a newspaper openly critical of his father's oppression, worked hard at changing the brutal structure of the regime, and spent years trying to bring western ideas into his father's government. Fluent in English, educated in Britain, and very liberal-minded.

But when the rebellion started, he really turned completely about-face, and sided totally with his father. Very sad.
 
2011-10-23 12:45:34 AM
He slipped and fell on a knife 45 times....

/Future reason for his death
 
2011-10-23 12:46:28 AM
Funny how Obama gets credit for things neither he, nor those under him...
Fark it, believe what ya like.
 
2011-10-23 12:51:04 AM
Joshua5: Funny how Obama gets credit for things neither he, nor those under him...
Fark it, believe what ya like.


Okay, I'll bite. Did you sign the order to hand-deliver millions of American dollars hand-wrapped in an explosive package to the Libyan rebels enabling their toppling of the oppressive regime or did Obama?

I'll give you a minute to consider the question.
 
2011-10-23 12:51:05 AM
Corn_Fed: This guy, Saif al-Islam, is a real tragedy.

He's the one son who was actually very reform-minded, started up a newspaper openly critical of his father's oppression, worked hard at changing the brutal structure of the regime, and spent years trying to bring western ideas into his father's government. Fluent in English, educated in Britain, and very liberal-minded.

But when the rebellion started, he really turned completely about-face, and sided totally with his father. Very sad.


The blood doesn't fall far from the wadi.
 
2011-10-23 12:52:24 AM
I'm gonna go with "apathetic".
 
2011-10-23 12:52:54 AM
It's hard to convince a son to get on board with pulling his father out of a sewer drain and then roughing him up and executing him, and that was the inevitable end to the revolution. If it was obvious to us, then it was obvious to him. I hope they take that into account, not that it matters what happens to one man when an entire country's future is being decided.
 
2011-10-23 12:53:36 AM
Tereklusec, you sound like youve been drinking as much as I have.
 
2011-10-23 12:57:48 AM
Gyrfalcon: wadi

alelli

whatever

arroyo
 
2011-10-23 01:06:25 AM
The only thing I enjoy about this is psychoanalytically observing human responses to this event.
 
2011-10-23 01:10:00 AM
The sins of the father....really?

He founded charities, reconciliation councils, and did many good things. In the end he stood by his family.

Thats great...now...what war crimes did he commit?

Let me know that, then I can have an opinion on him. If the answers none, then Im kinda thinking he should be left alone.

The other part of me says...never leave the children of your enemy alive. It never ends well on TV.
 
2011-10-23 01:10:25 AM
I'm sure his last words were

Do you know who my father is?
 
2011-10-23 01:11:45 AM
I'm so happy Gaddaffi's dead. He was our no 1 enemy. No? Well he always hated America. No? Well his people were hungry and didn't have jobs and some of the husbands beat their wives, and some of the children didn't get decent educations, and he tortured prisoners and spied on his citizens and...what else, oh he executed people without a fair trial, and he kept most of the riches while most of his people stayed poor. And he wasn't a Christian...

The list goes on and on.

/and don't you liberals go bringing up oil, cause I don't care about that.
 
2011-10-23 01:13:33 AM
berylman: The only thing I enjoy about this is psychoanalytically observing human responses to this event.

I was sitting in a BBQ joint yesterday, and they had CNN on one of the TVs. They were showing the sewer cam video over and over, and NO ONE was paying attention. It was surreal. In one day, the troop withdrawal announcement, and Gadaffi's end on the TV...And folks just were not interested.

/Yes, I ate ribs AND watched the video at the same time
//They were THAT good
 
2011-10-23 01:18:28 AM
I'm sure they're offering him proper health and dental care. Is it Saif?
 
2011-10-23 01:20:10 AM
i1207.photobucket.com

"We had it staked out for months."


stolen from: http://sabiiwabii.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
 
2011-10-23 01:21:33 AM
tereklusec: Joshua5: Funny how Obama gets credit for things neither he, nor those under him...
Fark it, believe what ya like.

Okay, I'll bite. Did you sign the order to hand-deliver millions of American dollars hand-wrapped in an explosive package to the Libyan rebels enabling their toppling of the oppressive regime or did Obama?

I'll give you a minute to consider the question.


that sounds like a cool story, i'd like to read it if you have a source. Obama seems to be a lot better at the bloody stuff than I ever could of imagined, too bad all of his domestic policies have failed miserably.
 
2011-10-23 01:26:41 AM
Nothing on Al Jazeera so I doubt that MSNBC got a scoop. Does MSNBC even know where Libya is? I doubt that they could find there a$$holes.
 
2011-10-23 01:29:40 AM
I haven't this too closely, but it seems like Libyans killed Khadafy, and Libyans captured this guy too.

So why is this being called an American victory? I know we were supporting the rebels, but it still seems like they did most of the work.
 
2011-10-23 01:30:21 AM
blanchae: Nothing on Al Jazeera so I doubt that MSNBC got a scoop. Does MSNBC even know where Libya is? I doubt that they could find there a$$holes.

Would you believe a conservative British rag? Link (new window)
 
2011-10-23 01:30:36 AM
Confabulat: So why is this being called an American victory? I know we were supporting the rebels, but it still seems like they did most of the work.

Because it's election season.
 
2011-10-23 01:30:55 AM
thisisarepeat: tereklusec: Joshua5: Funny how Obama gets credit for things neither he, nor those under him...
Fark it, believe what ya like.

Okay, I'll bite. Did you sign the order to hand-deliver millions of American dollars hand-wrapped in an explosive package to the Libyan rebels enabling their toppling of the oppressive regime or did Obama?

I'll give you a minute to consider the question.

that sounds like a cool story, i'd like to read it if you have a source. Obama seems to be a lot better at the bloody stuff than I ever could of imagined, too bad all of his domestic policies have failed miserably.


They might have failed because a certain party refused to let him have even the slightest domestic victory. Regardless of whether it was a good idea. They even said they'd oppose every one of his plans on general principles multiple times.
 
2011-10-23 01:32:51 AM
blanchae: Nothing on Al Jazeera so I doubt that MSNBC got a scoop. Does MSNBC even know where Libya is? I doubt that they could find there a$$holes.

I doubt you can use the grammar of the one language you know. Linky (new window)
 
2011-10-23 01:35:17 AM
Confabulat: So why is this being called an American victory? I know we were supporting the rebels, but it still seems like they did most of the work.

Apparently Ghaddafi's convoy was leaving Sirte and was attacked by Nato aircraft. French warplanes according to the French, American drones according to the Americans. After it was stopped by the air assault, it was taken by the rebels. So the west managed to get their fingers in. The west's role in this was always as the kingmakers, picking the winners in the civil war, and we did it very successfully, making it much quicker and cleaner than it would have been otherwise. The real accomplishment was starting it, though, not finishing it. We had nothing to do with starting it.
 
2011-10-23 01:38:44 AM
skantea: I'm so happy Gaddaffi's dead. He was our no 1 enemy. No? Well he always hated America. No? Well his people were hungry and didn't have jobs and some of the husbands beat their wives, and some of the children didn't get decent educations, and he tortured prisoners and spied on his citizens and...what else, oh he executed people without a fair trial, and he kept most of the riches while most of his people stayed poor. And he wasn't a Christian...

The list goes on and on.

/and don't you liberals go bringing up oil, cause I don't care about that.


The people of Lockerbie, Scotland might have something to say about Gadaffi's death.

www.corbisimages.com

^^^ The white stuff in middle of the picture? Where the houses used to be? That was part of Pan Am flight 103. Gadaffi ordered this. He admitted it.

But please. explain again how he was a poor, misunderstood soul.
 
2011-10-23 01:43:57 AM
Greywar: Thats great...now...what war crimes did he commit?

I wonder if the rebels care.
He was eating high on the Hog while his countrymen were licking daddies boots.
His past good deeds are probably the only reason they didn't shank him on the spot... maybe.

/If your with a faltering regime, and your smart, you leave the party early.
 
2011-10-23 01:52:54 AM
Saif was one of the main negotiators for the Libyan regime during its "Let's Do Business" phase of dealing with Euro and US interests. He personally paid Mariah Carey $1m to "sing" at one NYE 2009 party, and then the same amounts to Beyonce and Usher for 2010. It's surprising that Saif *didn't* meet with Senators McCain, Lieberman and Graham in 2009 when they went to Libya to talk arm deals. But Saif undoubtedly knows where too many skeletons are buried wrt Libya's business deals with the West, and so he will never survive to testify in any court.
 
2011-10-23 02:08:57 AM
Of course they'll execute him. We can't let people like that live long enough to write their memoirs detailing their family's shady connections with the CIA, now can we?
 
TJT
2011-10-23 02:14:17 AM
Omnivorous: The Obama campaign needs to create a cheap theatrical and patriotic gimmick: say a deck of cards.

It can put all of the terrorist that they've put down on the cards, perhaps reserving the last 26 for Goldman Sachs employees.


I would like to volunteer for the "Elect Omnivorous for President" campaign. I like your way of thinking.
 
2011-10-23 02:14:34 AM
FTA: "Gadhafi's family and international human rights groups have urged an inquiry into how Gadhafi, 69, was killed, since gory cellphone video footage showed him alive but being beaten and taunted by his captors."

Generally when a national leader is deposed and killed by revolutionary forces it involves hunting, beating, and executing. So I don't think we need an investigation as to what happened in the video of the national leader being beaten and executed by revolutionary forces.
 
2011-10-23 02:22:30 AM
Dumb-Ass-Monkey: ^^^ The white stuff in middle of the picture? Where the houses used to be?

That looks like one unit of one multi-family rental house was damaged. Not "houses". But who the fluck wants to really look at the facts when emotions are involved??

That was part of Pan Am flight 103. Gadaffi ordered this. He admitted it.

But please. explain again how he was a poor, misunderstood soul.


Yeah, that's what I've generally heard in conversation. How Gadaffi is a misunderstood soul. lol, yeah, that's what I hear people saying. I mean, you could probably provide me with 9 or 10 citations where people are calling him a misunderstood soul without blinking an eye. Right?
 
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