rhiannon: "Passing a joint to a friend would be punishable by months in jail if the Conservatives don't change their new crime legislation, experts warned this week."

I don't have the patience to read the contents of Bill C-10 right now, but I'm doubting the above is true.

And this attitude multiplied by 32 million is why Canada just got the government it deserves. *Facepalm*

Yes, the penalties are much more severe. The example in TFA is of someone who is growing six pot plants - any more than 5 and there's a huge increase in minimum sentences, which is particularly problematic for people who grow marijuana for medicinal purposes. The biggest sh*tshow in this act's writing, though, is the two-year minimum sentence for trafficking marijuana in/near schools or "any other public place usually frequented by persons under the age of 18 years", which as should be readily apparent, could be anywhere. "Trafficking" is not just selling, it is defined in the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act as:

"traffic" means, in respect of a substance included in any of Schedules I to IV,

(a) to sell, administer, give, transfer, transport, send or deliver the substance,

(b) to sell an authorization to obtain the substance, or

(c) to offer to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b),

I also think the Québec National Assembly's unanimous resolution in opposition to Bill C-10 is a very, very bad sign. We're only a few months into Harper's majority and you can already see a Québec vs. the Rest of Canada narrative shaping up. The major objection by the Québec NA is of course the stricter treatment of young offenders, which is also in the omnibus bill.

I wrote to Harper months ago and told him he was a douchewitz for sucking American dick and swallowing failed policy.

Never heard back...

Politicians know how you should use your body. You don't.

jebusfreak: As a criminal defence law clerk, I FULLY support this new law. The amount of trials, the pay raise, the 11(b) applications... I can't wait for this law to be proclaimed in force!

/stupid bill, I hate it, and it will never work
//Judge said to me "I don't farking care what Harper says, I'll never send anyone to jail for having a few plants or passing a joint!"

I simply don't understand it.

Well done Canada. You voted for this.

lewismarktwo: I simply don't understand it.

In short; people who run jails "like money".

So I hear you guys in Canada are getting a bunch of new private prisons with fully equipped factories. Enjoy the fruits of the free prison labor!

Tootles.

jebusfreak: /stupid bill, I hate it, and it will never work
//Judge said to me "I don't farking care what Harper says, I'll never send anyone to jail for having a few plants or passing a joint!"


This - cops still have to arrest you (Think there gonna arrest every person in canada they find passing a joint? Ha) Then the judge has to be dickish enough to be ignorant of the spirit of the law.

CSB: in my town 2 rcmp (brand new recruits from Quebec) caught a 60 year old man for public indecency after they caught him peeing outside a bar at 2AM -- the judge told the cops that if they ever brought anything so trivial infront of him again they would be out of work very fast.

WTF Canada!?

How much time do you get for passing gas?

Gotta find a way to fell those projected new prisons.

BarbadoSlim: Gotta find a way to fell those projected new prisons.

*fill

/dammit

whereisian: Well done Canada. You voted for this.

I am truly ashamed that Canada has caught the HURRR DURRR CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL bug and voted this asshole Harper into power.

The IQ of Canada is dropping. Just look at all those dumbasses reading the Toronto Sun. They all vote for right wing like a dog licks his balls.

Day_Old_Dutchie: The IQ of Canada is dropping. Just look at all those dumbasses reading the Toronto Sun. They all vote for right wing like a dog licks his balls.

The Toronto Sun is just embarrassing. Usually the cover's headline is some stupid crap of a story ("Crack Mom!") but every election season it turns into blatant conservative campaign ads.

I was seriously surprised that they didn't just say screw it and run with "fark Iggy" or "fark McGuinty" near the end.

Had a great laugh at "Welcome to Hell" when McGuinty won though.

bobbette: "traffic" means, in respect of a substance included in any of Schedules I to IV,

(a) to sell, administer, give, transfer, transport, send or deliver the substance,

(b) to sell an authorization to obtain the substance, or

(c) to offer to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b),


That would include (under (a) and (c)) something like "OK, Mom... I promise that if you ever are on chemo for cancer I'll get you some marijuana to relive your suffering", correct?

simple, everyone gets their own joint. i dont want your slobber anyway.

puff!

A complacent and content populace ends up being a prime target for this kind of Leadership to take over. Idle hands can do some really stupid shiat. Hopefully the judicial and enforcement system pisses on this bill.

"My Body. My Choice." shouldn't reefer only to Abortables.

Dave's not here, eh?

This is where the Cons start falling down. Putting people in jail shouldn't happen unless absolutely necessary. it costs money to keep them there and removes their economic contributions. It's a double-lose situation.

Yeah because that's worked out so well for us in the states, filling our prisons with non violent stoners. I don't smoke the stuff but so what if someone does? I'd rather have a bunch of lazy stoners zoning out in front of the TV than a bunch of drunks brawling at a club or driving around.

I was listening to circlejerk conservative radio today(Roy Green on Chorus Radio) and he had some douchnozzle that wrote a "book" called "Why only Conservatives have their head on straight" or some bullshiat name like that. Anyway, Roy is all "we have watch out, because this country is run by left wing media that has taken over, and they are like an echo chamber, repeating their nonsense and agreeing with each other." Then douchnozzle book guy says something retarded about how awesome conservatives are, and Roy is all "I've been saying that for years! You are so right, and we have to keep saying these things." Not realizing the utter hipocrasy of what the hell they were doing.

Then he finishes with "you're my hero" and douchnozzle book guy is like, "no, your my hero" and Roy's like, "well, ok, but you are still my hero". I shiat you not. I almost vomited all over Shaghanappi trail.


And these are the idiots that make stupid conservatives think their only option is to vote for conservatives, no matter how anti-conservative their policies are, like spending craploads of money and making government bigger, and getting in the private lives of citizens. Kinda not Conservative at all, is it?

/CSB?

FTA:

"Bill C-10, the Conservatives' sweeping nine-part crime bill that stiffens many penalties, does not require money to change hands for a drug transaction to meet the definition of trafficking. That means someone who grows six or more marijuana plants could face a new minimum sentence of six months in jail if he or she so much as offers pot to friends.

Another provision puts the minimum sentence for trafficking at nine months if even one pot plant is grown using property that belongs to a third party."

So the subby forgot the part where you actually have to be growing it for this apply to you.

bin_smokin: FTA:

"Bill C-10, the Conservatives' sweeping nine-part crime bill that stiffens many penalties, does not require money to change hands for a drug transaction to meet the definition of trafficking. That means someone who grows six or more marijuana plants could face a new minimum sentence of six months in jail if he or she so much as offers pot to friends.

Another provision puts the minimum sentence for trafficking at nine months if even one pot plant is grown using property that belongs to a third party."

So the subby forgot the part where you actually have to be growing it for this apply to you.

ah :) so it's perfectly suitable punishment. good thing you're here

It's not like I'm gonna tell if you share.

Has Canada embraced the pathetic but profitable, private prison system now ?

Marcus Aurelius: What would posess a Canadian politician to look at America and go, "gee, we should do that too! Let's double down!"

Well, for one thing...

What the hell, Canada? Did you catch a case of derp from us Americans?

GreenAdder: "Harold, you're 5 hours late coming home and you smell like cheap alcohol again! What happened?"

"Well, you know that joint on the corner? I was going to pass it, but Bill C-10 said I couldn't."

Clive, where have you been for the past 9 months?

Tymast:

ah :) so it's perfectly suitable punishment. good thing you're here

No. it should be legal.

But I hate headlines filled with half truths. The headline is actually false. If im caught passing a joint nothing will happen. The last time it happend the cop asked me if we had more, we said no, and he said move along.

This law is specifically aimed at grow ops. Not the users.

Not that I agree with it. But that is the truth of the matter.

As for the people biatching about the PM we elected. Tough nuts. The alternatives really really sucked. How is that change Obama promised working out for you?

Thank you so very much, Ontario and the western provinces, for the Conservative majority government. You stupid, ignorant, pants-around-your-ears assholes have given us FIVE farkING YEARS of this horseshiat. F*ck you all so very, very much.

To the people saying this won't be enforced - THESE ARE MANDATORY SENTENCES. Judges might not like the sentences but they will have to serve them.

Right now they're putting in super strict digital lock laws that make pretty much every Canadian under the age of 80 a criminal for ripping tunes to their iPods, no exceptions even if you own the original media.

Are we getting private prisons too? Oh goodie, I guess the robber barons want themselves lots of slave nice cheap prison labor.

Anybody who votes Conservative deserves a big kick in the face and balls. I spit on you assholes.

vygramul: WTF, Canada? You're supposed to be the cooler, more laid-back North American country.

We learned it from you, alright! We learned it from watching you!

Thunderbox: Has Canada embraced the pathetic but profitable, private prison system now ?

RTFA and you'll see.

farbles: To the people saying this won't be enforced - THESE ARE MANDATORY SENTENCES. Judges might not like the sentences but they will have to serve them.

You have a very weak understanding of our justice system.

You only serve a mandatory sentance if you are convicted. Judges have a lot more power then you think they do. They can refuse to try a case and throw it out before it even starts.

The next 3.5 years are going to be fun.