clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

The same MSNBC that has Pat Buchanan as a commentator? You don't get much more left than him...

hubiestubert: So, what's the over and under on Bachmann doing a reality show once she gets out of office?

That would involve Bachmann having something to do with reality first...which I don't see happening.

hubiestubert: rustypouch: shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

The same MSNBC that has Pat Buchanan as a commentator? You don't get much more left than him...

That's sort of like trying to list NPR as a "Liberal" news source. NPR does bring some Center Left folks to their chairs, but if you look at their coverage of the financial meltdown over the last several years--or pretty much most of their financial coverage for that matter--you don't hear a lot of "BURN IT ALL DOWN, MAN!" but rather, a firm defense of Wallstreet and financial policies that led to the meltdown, only coming out to expose the shell game AFTER things blew up.

There's the problem. Folks who scream "Liberal Bias!" seem to think a centerist position is Liberal, when it's not. It IS politically Left of the position that many of the craziest take, but then again, that would likewise include folks like Reagan and Bush Sr. as well...

Yep. What is considered 'liberal' in the US would be centrist or right wing in the rest of the industrialized world.

I'm Canadian, and have lived in Europe. I am constantly bemused by people complaining about how Obama's a raging socialist who's going to bankrupt the country, when he's only slightly to the left of Harper, the most conservative PM we've ever had. If these people traveled, their heads would asplode.

namatad: you do understand that the RIGHT has FOX and nothing else?
so the RIGHT all watch FOX and the left and center have multiple choices?
MSNBC, CNN, hell even BBC/BBCA

so while you on the right have only one choice, everyone else has choices.
so you are most popular. but also most popular for the right.
YAY you win !!!
yawn who cares?

The Right has Fox News....and pretty much every single talk radio station. Particularly on AM. Not to mention that all network news shows are pro-corporate/pro big-business.

The Left has MSNBC (which is, as pointed out, center-left). And maybe NPR (which shies away from anti-corporate/anti-big business programming).

CNN isn't leftist. If anything, it's more pro-entertainment than anything else. Lots of garbage about celebrities rather than actual discussion of news.

The major news networks are also not leftist. Maybe individuals like Dan Rather had leftist leanings. But that wasn't always representative of their news programming.

Ten years ago, there was no serious criticism of the invasion of Iraq on any news show. Not on CNN. Not on any of these stations...

If you want a good source of leftist news, you'll have to go online and watch or listen to "Democracy Now" put on by WBAI radio out of NYC. Amy Goodman's fantastic.

hubiestubert: That's sort of like trying to list NPR as a "Liberal" news source.

my brother said, "cuz face it, NPR is liberally biased" to which I respond, "yeah, that piece about the mating habits of the Brazilian weevil, or the one about the reemergence of the jazz scene in New Orleans were really skewed to the left."

Lionel Mandrake: shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

It also vaguely resembles actual news.

True, but Ed Schultz needs to tone it down. I have caught him in hyperbole-bordering-on-flagrant-lie a few times. I know MSNBC wants him to be the next Olbermann but he really shouldn't.

The "Liberal Media" myth was dispelled all the way back in 2000, but that doesn't stop Rupert from continuing to run with it.

LincolnLogolas: The "Liberal Media" myth was dispelled all the way back in 2000, but that doesn't stop Rupert from continuing to run with it.

Fear / Anger 2012, now with extra derp!

ultraholland: hubiestubert: That's sort of like trying to list NPR as a "Liberal" news source.

my brother said, "cuz face it, NPR is liberally biased" to which I respond, "yeah, that piece about the mating habits of the Brazilian weevil, or the one about the reemergence of the jazz scene in New Orleans were really skewed to the left."

The environment and and black culture are two beloved liberal causes. NPR should have balanced those stories with pieces friendly to conservative issues.

Here's a summary of Bachmann's achievements:

Here's a few of Obama's achievements:

American news media has a corporate culture not a liberal of conservative one.

While some reporters/ news readers/ on-air personalities may have a liberal bias personally the people who decide what stories to run and which to quash and what angle to play up are, in the main, do not.

That all noted, with the addition of FOX plus the resultant effect of other news networks replaying their shiat talking points without noting the BS factor the American media landscape *has* become far more conservative than liberal.

ultraholland: hubiestubert: That's sort of like trying to list NPR as a "Liberal" news source.

my brother said, "cuz face it, NPR is liberally biased" to which I respond, "yeah, that piece about the mating habits of the Brazilian weevil, or the one about the reemergence of the jazz scene in New Orleans were really skewed to the left."

Intellectuals / elites (I.e. Liberals) listen to it, therefore it is liberal.

Maximum logical trolling!

yeah that happens when you have 9.1% unemployment, no plan for improving the economy and terrible gallop approval numbers.

aselene: ultraholland: hubiestubert: That's sort of like trying to list NPR as a "Liberal" news source.

my brother said, "cuz face it, NPR is liberally biased" to which I respond, "yeah, that piece about the mating habits of the Brazilian weevil, or the one about the reemergence of the jazz scene in New Orleans were really skewed to the left."

The environment and and black culture are two beloved liberal causes. NPR should have balanced those stories with pieces friendly to conservative issues.

Stories about how gays are destroying the world or how women should be sammich-making 24/7? What are conservative issues again?

rustypouch: shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

The same MSNBC that has Pat Buchanan as a commentator? You don't get much more left than him...

You forgot about Joe Scarborough and Alan Keyes.

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Here's a summary of Bachmann's achievements:

Here's a few of Obama's achievements:
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you really have to be desperate to list Qadaffi as an 0bama achievement.
But okay, if that is the best you can do, then that is one of his top achievements. Providing logistic support to a group that killed Qadaffi.

Hard hitting news from No shiat Sherlock.

There's little around that I'd call a trusted news source anymore.

HighOnCraic: rustypouch: shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

The same MSNBC that has Pat Buchanan as a commentator? You don't get much more left than him...

You forgot about Joe Scarborough and Alan Keyes.

But but Juan Williams!!!!

ginandbacon: Poor Pawlenty.

He still couldn't make it even if he was still in the race. That man is so boring even racist remarks would put the NAACP to sleep.

Alphax: Hard hitting news from No shiat Sherlock.

There's little around that I'd call a trusted news source anymore.

Apathy / Libertarianism 2012!

Remember folks, the network that hires former Republican congressmen as hosts and unashamedly gives Pat Buchanan air time is the liberal one. Because they've got a woman on at night who makes Republicans feel bad, sometimes.

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: yeah that happens when you have 9.1% unemployment, no plan for improving the economy and terrible gallop approval numbers.

And yet, the GOP has no chance in Hell...

The GOP won't win the Presidency.

They have a chance to widen their lead in the House and pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate, even turn the Senate.

0bama will have a lot of time for golf then if he can't learn how to lead the country vs. just his party.

God, I love the ignore feature. Going to get some dairy and watch anything but fox news now.

coeyagi: Stories about how gays are destroying the world or how women should be sammich-making 24/7? What are conservative issues again?

How we're taxing corporations into oblivion at these terrible rates. That's about all they give a shiat about anymore, how to weasel out of paying their share of the Iraq credit card so they can stockpile just a little more cash. Juuust a little more, that's all they want.

(Screenshot from MSNBC's "Alan Keyes Is Making Sense")

Okay, so it only ran for 23 weeks before being crushed by the invisible hand of the free market, but still . . .

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: yeah that happens when you have 9.1% unemployment, no plan for improving the economy and terrible gallop approval numbers.


Wow. Worst President ever, and you clowns can't beat him.

worst president ever? theres no way he has been worse than w. bush. hes just bush 2:electric boogaloo

MSNBC is nothing but liberal whiners. ;(

9% liberal?

That's still 20% too liberal for many in this country. Hell, that's far left loony fringe.

shivashakti: clancifer: The Republicans have their own 100% dedicated news channel, plus significant crybaby and poutrage control over the others.

So does the Left...they've got MSNBC. Granted, it's not nearly as popular or infliuential as Fox News.

MSNBC has 4 hours of liberal programming on during the weeknights. and 4 hours of conservative programming on during the day.

where's the fair and balanced programming on Fox?

make me some tea: Wow.

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That chart starts the day after he had Ossama bin Laden killed. And still only 9% were positive?!

Tusz: Remember folks, the network that hires former Republican congressmen as hosts and unashamedly gives Pat Buchanan air time is the liberal one. Because they've got a woman on at night who makes Republicans feel bad, sometimes.

Well, you are the liberal media if you are 99% right wing propaganda, hence everyone except Fox counts as liberal.

/OT: I wonder if someone could persuade Leonard Nimoy to read the line: "The needs of the 1% outweigh the needs of the 99%"