AdolfOliverPanties: The original TV series WAS about the future, was it not?

The continuity of the original BSG wasn't particularly well established given the length the series ran. The intro referring to the Egyptians, etc was added later, iirc.

/still liked the original better than the grimdark nonsense of the reboot

There is absolutely no need for this.

One reboot per story, please.

TFA: ...the show follows the titular ship...

While I know it is technically acceptable, this usage of "titular" bothers me. I'd prefer eponymous.

alternative girlfriend: There is absolutely no need for this.

One reboot per story, please.

Or at least wait a generation.

Fish in a Barrel: TFA: ...the show follows the titular ship...

While I know it is technically acceptable, this usage of "titular" bothers me. I'd prefer eponymous.

What do you have against boobies?



/hot

Closed_Minded_Bastage: What do you have against boobies?

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/hot

At the very least, my face!

Hokey religions and ancient prophecies are no match for a good storyline at your side, kid.

After I finished watching the newer series of BSG on Netflix earlier this year, I stopped watching TV for a long time because there was nothing good enough to take its place. Eventually I got a girlfriend, so things worked out for me.

Torgo_of_Manos: FTFA:

In case you weren't a fan of either the original 1978 Glen Larson or new 2004 television series, here's the basic idea. Battlestar Galactica is about a future where humans are at war with artificially intelligent machines called Cylons. Those machines destroy the human race and the show follows the titular ship manned with the last remaining survivors trying to find a new home as the Cylons chase them down, eager to finish the job.

Wow, there's some fail right there

Came to say this. The original saw the BSG find present-day Earth.



The reboot, the humans and cylons became our ancestors.

All this has happened before, and it will happen again.

Mike Chewbacca: alternative girlfriend: There is absolutely no need for this.

One reboot per story, please.

Or at least wait a generation.

That, too.

I'm still mad about a new Spiderman. I can deal with a new Superman, since it's Henry Cavill, but even that's annoying.

Same with the Charlie's Angels TV show. Thankfully it was cancelled, but the movies were less than a decade ago.

Pointless and indicative of the lack of creativity in Hollywood.

I hope he isnt the same guy that wrote the last season.

Hollywood isn't about creating art, it's about making money.

So say we all

If you didn't like the last season of the show you a.) completely ignored the writers strike or b.) understood not a single farking thing in the show.

meddleRPI: If you didn't like the last season of the show you a.) completely ignored the writers strike or b.) understood not a single farking thing in the show.

I didnt like it. You can judge me how you please.

as long as its not the dude who wrote the pacific band of brothers.

that one sucked.

meddleRPI: If you didn't like the last season of the show you a.) completely ignored the writers strike or b.) understood not a single farking thing in the show.

Or c.) recognize clumsy, heavy-handed deus ex machina when you see it.

Jackpot777: Torgo_of_Manos: FTFA:

In case you weren't a fan of either the original 1978 Glen Larson or new 2004 television series, here's the basic idea. Battlestar Galactica is about a future where humans are at war with artificially intelligent machines called Cylons. Those machines destroy the human race and the show follows the titular ship manned with the last remaining survivors trying to find a new home as the Cylons chase them down, eager to finish the job.

Wow, there's some fail right there

Came to say this. The original saw the BSG find present-day Earth.



The reboot, the humans and cylons became our ancestors.




No It didn't. The Original Series last episode was "Hand of God" which is the episode where Apollo and Starbuck take Baltars captured Raider and sneak into a cylon base and plant explosives to destroy it, while Galactica tangles with and destroys a Basestar. They never get to Earth. closest they got in the original series was a static filled faint transmission of the moon landing...which didn't come in until everyone had left the observation pod.

in Galactica 1980...THEN they got to Earth. but that series is best ignored.

Lord Dimwit: Disposable Rob: meddleRPI: If you didn't like the last season of the show you a.) completely ignored the writers strike or b.) understood not a single farking thing in the show.

C) are not a fan of literal Dei Ex Machina.

I was pleasantly surprised with how they handled Ellen's Cylon nature (how the final four gave the secret of whatever to the current crop of Cylons).

But the final episode's "GOD DID IT" explanation for everything else really let me down.

which is kind of sad... because the angel refered to as "Head 6" (as opposed to "Caprica6") flat out tells Baltar she's an "Angel of God sent here to protect you" from the begining of the series, and brings it up pretty regularly for the rest of the show... and when "Caprica6" starts getting visited by "Head Baltar"...let alone ALL the shiat with Starbuck...the scrolls of Pithia..Dana and Lauras shared visions of the Opera House and Hera...etc etc etc it should have been painfully obvious "Gods Plan" was in action the ENTIRE frakking series.

nothing personal... but people who complain about it, like it wasn't THERE the entire f'ing time...well... I'm sorry your didn't like it, cuz you weren't paying attention.

Stratohead: nothing personal... but people who complain about it, like it wasn't THERE the entire f'ing time...well... I'm sorry your didn't like it, cuz you weren't paying attention.

It was there for sure. Maybe it was my interest in the show, maybe I was enjoying the journey, maybe I didnt "get" everything (entirely possible) but the ending fell flat with me. The series ended and I was disappointed. Not that it was over but with how it ended.

Just me.

AdolfOliverPanties: Doesn't qualify. BSG on SyFy didn't pull the "God did it" or "it was angels" thing out of thin air. They were messing with the concept of the almighty(s) since the first season. The Creator was something the less bellicose Cylons were searching for all along. If you didn't think the series would end with a bunch of ethereal God stuff, you weren't paying attention during the first years of the series.

Yes, it does qualify. Clearly there was a lot of mystical intervention going on during the entire season, but they turned it up way past eleven in the final show. The shear amount of shiat they hand-waved away left all the mystery of the series feeling empty. It was like finding out that the Young Earth Creationist are actually right, and God did plant those dinosaur bones there just to fark with us.

Fish in a Barrel: AdolfOliverPanties: Doesn't qualify. BSG on SyFy didn't pull the "God did it" or "it was angels" thing out of thin air. They were messing with the concept of the almighty(s) since the first season. The Creator was something the less bellicose Cylons were searching for all along. If you didn't think the series would end with a bunch of ethereal God stuff, you weren't paying attention during the first years of the series.

Yes, it does qualify. Clearly there was a lot of mystical intervention going on during the entire season, but they turned it up way past eleven in the final show. The shear amount of shiat they hand-waved away left all the mystery of the series feeling empty. It was like finding out that the Young Earth Creationist are actually right, and God did plant those dinosaur bones there just to fark with us.

No... theres nothing in the series finale about dinosaur bones. or the age of the planet. There already was a primative humanoid population on Earth, which the Humans and "SKinjobs" and Hybrids (assuming that other hybrids like Hera must have resulted) eventually mated with, creating the human species we are today. they didn't even touch that other shiat... that was all you or someone outside the series projecting your own stuff.

If they make this, they should let Richard Hatch play Adama.

Stratohead: No... theres nothing in the series finale about dinosaur bones. or the age of the planet. There already was a primative humanoid population on Earth, which the Humans and "SKinjobs" and Hybrids (assuming that other hybrids like Hera must have resulted) eventually mated with, creating the human species we are today. they didn't even touch that other shiat... that was all you or someone outside the series projecting your own stuff.

Read the comment again. It was a simile.

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Oh, man. Galactica 1980 -- better known as "Hey! We paid a friggin' shiatton for these special effects scenes! You better use them before we sell them to the Aussies to make a movie set on a ship that suspiciously looks like the Galactica on the outside but a Melbourne warehouse on the inside!"

And that led to one of my favorite MST3Ks ever!

1978 episode "Greetings From Earth":

"Captain Apollo and Lieutenant Starbuck aboard their Colonial Viper fighters intercept a primitive spacecraft which fails to respond to communication. They take it in tow and bring it back to one of the Galactica's hangar decks.
Once there, the Colonials discover the ship contains six humans - two adults and four children - who are lying in transparent tubes in a state of suspended animation. Speculation arises that these humans may be from Earth. Despite the objections of Commander Adama, the Council of Twelve demands that Dr. Wilker and Dr. Salik bring the travelers out of their sleep-like state.

When the travelers awaken, they have difficulty breathing, and it becomes clear they cannot survive in the Galactica's atmosphere. While the Fleet begins to demand information from the travelers, Adama chooses a different course and the six escape.

Apollo, Starbuck and Cassiopeia escort the humans back to their original destination, the planet Paradeen. Arriving at Paradeen, the Colonials are introduced to the family's android caretakers, Hector and Vector. The Colonials discover that the travelers are from the planet Terra, part of which is enslaved by the Eastern Alliance, a totalitarian, expansionist empire responsible for destroying the majority of the population on Paradeen.

Unknown to the group, an Eastern Alliance spacecraft is in pursuit of the travelers Apollo and the others have befriended."

Pants_Optional: 1978 episode "Greetings From Earth":

"Captain Apollo and Lieutenant Starbuck aboard their Colonial Viper fighters intercept a primitive spacecraft which fails to respond to communication. They take it in tow and bring it back to one of the Galactica's hangar decks.
Once there, the Colonials discover the ship contains six humans - two adults and four children - who are lying in transparent tubes in a state of suspended animation. Speculation arises that these humans may be from Earth. Despite the objections of Commander Adama, the Council of Twelve demands that Dr. Wilker and Dr. Salik bring the travelers out of their sleep-like state.

When the travelers awaken, they have difficulty breathing, and it becomes clear they cannot survive in the Galactica's atmosphere. While the Fleet begins to demand information from the travelers, Adama chooses a different course and the six escape.

Apollo, Starbuck and Cassiopeia escort the humans back to their original destination, the planet Paradeen. Arriving at Paradeen, the Colonials are introduced to the family's android caretakers, Hector and Vector. The Colonials discover that the travelers are from the planet Terra, part of which is enslaved by the Eastern Alliance, a totalitarian, expansionist empire responsible for destroying the majority of the population on Paradeen.

Unknown to the group, an Eastern Alliance spacecraft is in pursuit of the travelers Apollo and the others have befriended."

they weren't from Earth... they were from the planet TERA. The ep is called "Greetings from Earth" because they were mistakenly believed to be FROM Earth but WERE NOT.

Considering it is not based upon the latest iteration, but on the original, I am quite skeptical.

Of course it was obvious from the beginning that various characters believed in god(s), and that this had a strong impact on their behavior. None of that requires gods to exist. The existence of religion early on in the show does not justify the "God did it" message of the final epsiode, or its clumsy, contrived explanation for how the remnants of an advanced interstellar civilization became our cave dwelling ancestors.

imgod2u: AdolfOliverPanties: Disposable Rob: meddleRPI: If you didn't like the last season of the show you a.) completely ignored the writers strike or b.) understood not a single farking thing in the show.

C) are not a fan of literal Dei Ex Machina.

Doesn't qualify. BSG on SyFy didn't pull the "God did it" or "it was angels" thing out of thin air. They were messing with the concept of the almighty(s) since the first season. The Creator was something the less bellicose Cylons were searching for all along. If you didn't think the series would end with a bunch of ethereal God stuff, you weren't paying attention during the first years of the series.

Of course it qualifies. There's a difference between "God is a big, continuing discussion in the show" and "God swoops in from nowhere and dictates the ending".

If the show had had a more consistent theme of divine intervention, it would've been:

1. Boring as all hell
2. Fitting for the ending

God, while a big presence through the entire series, was never an active player. God was what God should be to make an interesting story; "if you do your job right, they'll wonder if you truly exist".

The ending blew all that. Hence, it blew.

Dumbfark: in like the second farking episode of the show, Head Six says, "I am an angel sent by God." Like, it could not have been more clear. Not to mention the original series was supposed to be a retelling of the Book of Mormon. Religion was always, always, always a part of the story. And not just in a, "oh hey people pray and stuff" sort of way. It always had a direct influence.

FFS, the Season 1 episode where Apollo attacks the fuel depot is called "The Hand of God". And how does Baltar identify the right thing to bomb? He repents his sins, and picks the one out of 50 structures that is the right thing.

I'm no bible thumper, but get your insecurities about religion out of the way of your ability to enjoy or appreciate something. It makes you look ignorant.