That's how I take stuff apart when dismantling it takes too long.

It's a double-wide trailer home, FFS. Why not just throw some wheels under it and, you know, move the damn thing.

Okay, I read the article and I'm confused. Was the owner or occupant of the trailer directly implicated or charged in the criminal affair?

If not, whoever decided it was a good idea to destroy her house should have a bulldozer push through their house with no notice, especially if there was a reasonable way to disassemble the modular home.

Reminds me of this joke:

An old Italian man lived alone in the country. It was Spring and he wanted to dig his tomato garden, as he had done every year, but it was very hard work for the aging man as the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was currently in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament:

Dear Vincent,
I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won't be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I'm just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If only you were here my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me.

Love Dad

A few days later he received a letter from his son:

Dear Dad,
Not for nothing, but don't dig up that garden. That's where I buried the BODIES.
Love Vinnie

At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived at the old man's house and dug up the entire area. However, they didn't find any bodies, so they apologized to the old man and left.

That same day the old man received another letter from his son.

Dear Dad,
Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That's the best I could do under the circumstances.
Love Vinnie

Amusing tag??

So they condemned a house which looks like a decent double-wide to just take a back hoe to it to find some evidence under the house? The farking house has wheels for christ sake... could have been moved easily. This homeowner got screwed.

Police apparently told her that they did not have time for that, he said, but they did not give a reason why.

The crime happened back in 2003, what was so urgent that they couldn't wait a couple more days to dismantle the trailer properly?

Yeah, it's really amusing that the cops destroyed the woman's home and property for no good reason, even after being told there were non-destructive means to their ostensible ends.

This brings up a good question: during the investigation of a crime the police search your house for evidence, doing severe damage (cut out the drains looking for blood, cut up the floor, etc.) They don't find it, and you are never charged.

Are they responsible for the damages, or are you, the homeowner, just farked?

Does homeowners' insurance have a overzealous investigation clause? Are you still on the hook for your deductable?

Because this would piss me off.

So if they don;t find the truck or gun......

This is one of those rare times where I, were I a juror on that case, would seriously consider nullification.

Police told Shaffer that they did not have time for that

Apparently the weapons cache was going to disintegrate and be lost forever.

/I bet the tiny-dicked cops hooted and hollered while the backhoe broke through the house.

namegoeshere: This brings up a good question: during the investigation of a crime the police search your house for evidence, doing severe damage (cut out the drains looking for blood, cut up the floor, etc.) They don't find it, and you are never charged.

Are they responsible for the damages, or are you, the homeowner, just farked?

Does homeowners' insurance have a overzealous investigation clause? Are you still on the hook for your deductable?

Because this would piss me off.

There have been a number of articles posted to Fark over the years where police have refused to pay for damages. One that comes to mind involved the police, acting on a bad tip or bad transcription (I don't remember which), kicked in the door to the wrong house.

BurnShrike: Reminds me of this joke:

An old Italian man lived alone in the country. It was Spring and he wanted to dig his tomato garden, as he had done every year, but it was very hard work for the aging man as the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was currently in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament:

Dear Vincent,
I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won't be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I'm just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If only you were here my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me.

Love Dad

A few days later he received a letter from his son:

Dear Dad,
Not for nothing, but don't dig up that garden. That's where I buried the BODIES.
Love Vinnie

At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived at the old man's house and dug up the entire area. However, they didn't find any bodies, so they apologized to the old man and left.

That same day the old man received another letter from his son.

Dear Dad,
Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That's the best I could do under the circumstances.
Love Vinnie

+1

FTFA
"The new photos also show police apparently using the backhoe to rip into a large, metal gun safe that Shaffer kept in her home. Shaffer said police tied a chain around the safe and dragged it through a door rather than simply asking for the combination, according to Clifford."

If you just OPENED it for them, then the rednecks couldn't play *SMASH* with the backhoe while taking pictures with their new fangled "cellular telephones".

I guess this shows they weren't at all concerned about retrieving evidence....

I'm comforted knowing the officers will be properly disciplined/fired, being personally and professionally held liable forrrrr.....*snort, bwaahhaaa* oh I can't even finish that

Unless her gun safe was buried under the house when they found it and ripped it open with the backhoe my opinion has gone solidly from 'possibly simply incompetent and indifferent' to "anonymous" tip fishing expedition. In point of fact, at that point I'm almost willing to bet at some point in the investigation they'd had reason to question her and received little help and suggested they could 'make it more difficult for her' if she didn't help, and she happens to have enough sense to listen to her lawyer and not mention anything they can't provide direct proof of.

But I'm sure that never happens, right CruiserTwelve?

Yeah this shiat is getting out of control.
Hyperbole is becoming reality.

It is obvious that she is being punished for refusing to cooperate with police.

rev. dave: Yeah this shiat is getting out of control.
Hyperbole is becoming reality.

It is obvious that she is being punished for refusing to cooperate with police.

No doubt. And who will stand up to it? Cops in this country are now so used to getting everything they ask for, every new power, every new protection from scrutiny, that they are dangerously out of control.

I'm not sure homeowner's insurance pays for this. And even if they don't find anything the police aren't out any money to get it fixed. They've knocked down people's doors at the wrong address and don't usually cover the damages. You're lucky if they say 'oops' or 'sorry'.

Chinchillazilla: In April, police arrested Lester in connection to the murder of Jeanie Patton after a longtime friend told investigators that Lester admitted to killing Patton in retaliation for the theft of an engine block laden with rare, pink methamphetamine, according to the original criminal complaint.

Rare? What, does it form underground like pink rubies or something?

What, were you not raised in a barn? Everyone in the park knows that like a fine steak, meth is best served rare, with a slightly pink center.

I Havent Killed Anybody Since 1984: [images.cheezburger.com image 500x378]

The famous backhoe move?

/crane kick

Did you see the breaking news at the top of the page? A mobile home fire on her property, and meth labs have been found there before. Man she leads an interesting life lol

devilynn: Did you see the breaking news at the top of the page? A mobile home fire on her property, and meth labs have been found there before. Man she leads an interesting life lol

You file lawsuit, we burn down your replacement house.

Love, the police

ben_reddy: The crime happened back in 2003, what was so urgent that they couldn't wait a couple more days to dismantle the trailer properly?

"We're above the law, citizen. We don't have time to respect your property."

Who is the sheriff giving the orders, B.A Baracus?

Citizen : "Sir, you can take the trailer apart and move it."
Sheriff: " I ain't got time for no jibber jabber. We gonna tear it down! Face, start the backhoe!"

/Hopefully this lady wins

So which part of East Germany did this happen in, then?

/seriously, America, smarten up

namegoeshere: devilynn: Did you see the breaking news at the top of the page? A mobile home fire on her property, and meth labs have been found there before. Man she leads an interesting life lol

You file lawsuit, we burn down your replacement house.

Love, the police

Welcome to the South! That is the way they do things here-that is why hubby and I are trying to escape to somewhere on the other side of the country......

Holy heck. someone needs to fry over that...that's ridiculous.

"It is not clear what evidence, if any, the search found in connection to the sniper killings. "

Um...after 8 years if it's "not clear", nothing was found.

Chinchillazilla: In April, police arrested Lester in connection to the murder of Jeanie Patton after a longtime friend told investigators that Lester admitted to killing Patton in retaliation for the theft of an engine block laden with rare, pink methamphetamine, according to the original criminal complaint.

Rare? What, does it form underground like pink rubies or something?

Think name brand vs. generic.

That stuff is made in a real lab by a real chemist vs. the stuff that is made in a jury rigged lab by a high school drop out from over the counter meds.

So, they subcontract this out to Mossad?

Whose Cheerios did this person piss into?

How a typewriter, that you have never seen and shotty 'police work' by the Gov can fark your world. They a$$r@ped this guy daily for 9 months and found

NOTHING

Whatthefark: Who is the sheriff giving the orders, B.A Baracus?

Citizen : "Sir, you can take the trailer apart and move it."
Sheriff: " I ain't got time for no jibber jabber. We gonna tear it down! Face Murdoch, start the backhoe!"

/Hopefully this lady wins

FTFY. But, nonetheless, that is full of win.

"backhoe operator uses the hydraulic claw to smash open the safe's door. ... It is not clear what evidence, if any, the search found in connection to the sniper killings."

I'd say none worth writing down, since you simpering oafs opened it with a freaking backhoe. I wonder if it got contaminated or damaged in any way?

/combinations, how do they work?

In 1965, federal agents searched the home of a man and arrested him, without a warrant, in front of his wife and children. He brought suit against the U.S. government for the "unreasonable search and seizure" in violation of his Fourth Amendment protections. The US District Court dismissed the case with strong language declaring there was absolutely no merit to such a claim.

The man appealed all the way to the US Supreme Court and won. This case opened the door to a string of lawsuits for government violations of constitutional protections and the man's name is now applied to these types of suits.

Bivens v. Six Unknown Agents (new window)

It IS possible to sue the police for such things. In the case mentioned in the headline article, the lawyer suing the county was the former county prosecutor when the crimes originally occurred. Not surprisingly, the county has a problem with this.

namegoeshere: This brings up a good question: during the investigation of a crime the police search your house for evidence, doing severe damage (cut out the drains looking for blood, cut up the floor, etc.) They don't find it, and you are never charged.

Are they responsible for the damages, or are you, the homeowner, just farked?

Does homeowners' insurance have a overzealous investigation clause? Are you still on the hook for your deductable?

Because this would piss me off.

You are just farked. Even in a no knock raid where the police use flash grenades and a battering ram to destroy your door, create burns on your carpet, furniture, and walls they are not at fault and will usually pay nothing. I looked over my policy and I'm not covered by such an event. I'll have to talk it over with my agent and see if I can get something that covers it.

Happily I am covered for fire, flood, wind, earthquake, mud, and poop.

Way to open up a giant right to search and seizure option for the defense.

So, no ground penetrating radar available?

I would think a buried truck would give off some different returns.

And they couldn't just jack it up and move it?

MouserMusing: So, no ground penetrating radar available?

I would think a buried truck would give off some different returns.

And they couldn't just jack it up and move it?

Ground penetrating radar would show up the truck, but you have to get the radar directly over it. And yes, they could have just moved the house instead of destroying it. They can't claim exigent circumstances: The suspect was in jail and couldn't move the stuff, and you're unlikely to be able to move a buried truck without someone noticing it, so there was no reason to hurry.

I'm going to assume this was a punitive action against the homeowner, under the guise of a search.

/What is that H.L. Mencken quote again?

Slaves2Darkness: Happily I am covered for in fire, flood, wind, earthquake, mud, and poop.

ftfy