Oh this will fun.

Anyone claiming that climate scientists are alarmists only trying to protect their grant money will have to think about that one for a while.

Or the flip side, anyone who says that wealthy conservatives use money to encourage researchers to kowtow to their agenda need to ponder this as well.

Wait, you can't just BUY your own scientific conclusions?

Is this the thread we go "derp derpity deep deep Soros" but since it is a conservative donor we actually rage against him?

I'm pretty sure" it is Obama's fault" will be the conclusion when the results are released.

roadkillontheweb: I'm pretty sure" it is Obama's fault" will be the conclusion when the results are released.

They don't call him Barack "Methane Hussein" Fartbama for nothing.

MyRandomName: Is this the thread we go "derp derpity deep deep Soros" but since it is a conservative donor we actually rage against him?

That's some pretty weak-ass trolling, but it is Friday morning...

I was reading a report on the BBC News' website about this study (which didn't mention who funded it) and realized that we're the only country on the planet who pretend that man-made global climate change is imaginary.

/One of the Koch brothers funds a bunch of stuff on PBS

But my uncle sent me an email linking to a blog where some guy who used to read weather reports on the radio 25 years ago says it's all a hoax to get research money!

Shaggy_C: Anyone claiming that climate scientists are alarmists only trying to protect their grant money will have to think about that one for a while.

Or the flip side, anyone who says that wealthy conservatives use money to encourage researchers to kowtow to their agenda need to ponder this as well.

This doesn't mean that the Kochs didn't "encourage" researchers to be their mouthpieces, it just mean that if they did, it didn't work.

I'm sure the sun is to blame, and by extension, God.

/or Ra, take your pick

You destroy the planet or the economy and your wealth means nothing, these douches all amass fortunes that will last multiple generations but make it so the whole planet won't.

I'll do a test and send this link to my dad...

1000 to 1 says he still doesn't believe what it says because ___(insert conservative conspiracy theory here)____.

This is a great study and helps answer questions for the people who are intellectually honest. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the people railing against climate science and climate change are the intellectual equivalent of cult members. So... nice try, but it isn't going to change anything.

Well, maybe this will convince the Koch brothers and conservatives that this is a real issue that they need to take seriously. That is probably the craziest sentence I have ever written.

I'll wait for the long-form report to be published, which I'll then claim is an obvious 'shop.

They also fund PBS Nova, which is one of the few television shows that explains global warming in any detail -- their politics have never shown up on that show near as I can tell, disconcerting that it is.

These debates are such a pain. The facts don't care how people feel about them.

The truly scary thing about climate change is that there is no real way to stop it. The politacal and economic advantages of coal and oil as energy sources virtually gaurentees they will be used until either they are pretty well used up or fusion becomes a practical energy source. Any other energy source is just tinkering around the edges.

It may take 100 or 200 years to reach that point, but I see no way to avoid reaching it. The fuel will be burned, the co2 level will rise very significantly and climate will change. A lot, and mostly for the worse.

Wyalt Derp: I'll wait for the long-form report to be published, which I'll then claim is an obvious 'shop.

That post needed a warning on it. I just inhaled a cornflake.

yea, you can find studies like that all over the place. All written by people wanting to jump on the band wagon and get some research money. Afterall, the only way to get published is to agree with the silly idea. The boys at the CRU admitted that a long time ago.

crab66: But my uncle sent me an email linking to a blog where some guy who used to read weather reports on the radio 25 years ago says it's all a hoax to get research money!

I thought the motivation had something to do with Al Gore at prep school?

Dwight_Yeast: I was reading a report on the BBC News' website about this study (which didn't mention who funded it) and realized that we're the only country on the planet who pretend that man-made global climate change is imaginary.

Yup ... the anti-science movement is incredibly strong in the US. Most countries don't have to struggle with this. They consider AGW real and just argue about what to do about it.

Shaggy_C: Anyone claiming that climate scientists are alarmists only trying to protect their grant money will have to think about that one for a while.

Or the flip side, anyone who says that wealthy conservatives use money to encourage researchers to kowtow to their agenda need to ponder this as well.

Let's not pretend that because one study flies in the face of its corporate masters that all industry studies are to be trusted.

Not peer-reviewed, ergo worthless.

Looks like someone got their false flags mixed up

BFletch651: The truly scary thing about climate change is that there is no real way to stop it. The politacal and economic advantages of coal and oil as energy sources virtually gaurentees they will be used until either they are pretty well used up or fusion becomes a practical energy source. Any other energy source is just tinkering around the edges.

It may take 100 or 200 years to reach that point, but I see no way to avoid reaching it. The fuel will be burned, the co2 level will rise very significantly and climate will change. A lot, and mostly for the worse.

History has shown that we can innovate and change faster than this. Statements like these are just another tactic of the anti-science movement: "It's too hard so let's not try!!"

BFletch651: The politacal and economic advantages of coal and oil as energy sources virtually gaurentees they will be used until either they are pretty well used up or fusion becomes a practical energy source. Any other energy source is just tinkering around the edges.

1) Institute carbon taxes
2) Economic advantages of coal and oil disappear versus cleaner sources
3) Hope it's not too late, and the damage isn't too severe.

amiable: Well, maybe this will convince the Koch brothers and conservatives that this is a real issue that they need to take seriously.

The Koch brothers get a bad wrap because, well, they are stinking rich, and not afraid to fund causes they believe in. They also gave the ACLU $20 million dollars to fight the Patriot Act. Anybody who thinks their motivation is solely their bottom line hasn't been paying much attention.

If you want people to buy your products that you have created to help 'fight' global warming climate change, then you will support any positive conclusion.

Why should the left get all the $$.

pup.socket: Not peer-reviewed, ergo worthless.

And I'll bet the Koch brothers will fight tooth and nail to keep it from being submitted for review.