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(Wonkette) Dumbass Cain: "It's not the government's role to tell people what decisions to make." Interviewer: "Even about abortion?" Cain: "Exactly. Aww crap, I forgot I was a GOP candidate"   (wonkette.com) divider line 222
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2011-10-21 10:01:00 AM
Ha ha!
 
2011-10-21 10:02:58 AM
Apples and oranges.... apples... and oranges. No, you don't get it. It's apples.... and oranges....
 
2011-10-21 10:05:30 AM
bananas too.
 
2011-10-21 10:05:38 AM
I am now fully on the side of... Best book tour ever!!!

This guy can't be for real.
 
2011-10-21 10:05:59 AM
Wow, Cain just took a real conservative, small government stance on a critical issue! If the GOP were a real political party and not a boat full of bible toting loons, he'd be in good standing for this.
 
2011-10-21 10:06:04 AM
Really, there is a gaping hole here for any half way decent PR person to drag Cain to safety through. They will say that obviously Cain meant adoption instead of raising the child as her own. The people that want to vote for Cain will accept this as fact. Also Cain was a victim of 'gotcha journalism', and Morgan should be ashamed for asking a candidate for his position on a controversial issue.
 
2011-10-21 10:07:02 AM
Note to GOP candidates: You don't have to worry about being logically consistent.
 
2011-10-21 10:07:53 AM
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2011-10-21 10:08:09 AM
It seems that Herman Cain is the first person I've ever seen who actually believes the "Liberal want forced abortions for everyone!" joke.
 
2011-10-21 10:08:44 AM
I heard on a news teaser that Cain was "in trouble for remarks he made about abortion." I figured he went too far and said something offensive like how it shouldn't be allowed even if the mother's life is at stake. After finding out that he's in trouble with Republicans for saying that it's not his role to prohibit abortion where the mother's life is at stake, it reminds me just how awful the political climate in this country really is.
 
2011-10-21 10:08:49 AM
while i agree that this particular issue should be the choice of the family, i also think the assertion that it isn't the place of the government to tell people what decisions to make is... absolutely retarded.

what if i decide to rob a bank? is it the role of the government to say i shouldn't do that? i think it is.

sometimes conservatives forget that laws exist.
 
2011-10-21 10:10:05 AM
That's not fair. He's not good speaking extemporaneously. Needs a teleprompter to stay "on-message".
 
2011-10-21 10:10:42 AM
He'll come on later today to say that he was just joking.
 
2011-10-21 10:12:14 AM
I assume he also believes the government shouldn't tell people who to marry.
 
2011-10-21 10:12:17 AM
burndtdan: while i agree that this particular issue should be the choice of the family, i also think the assertion that it isn't the place of the government to tell people what decisions to make is... absolutely retarded.

what if i decide to rob a bank? is it the role of the government to say i shouldn't do that? i think it is.

sometimes conservatives forget that laws exist.


Robbing a bank = Harming other people

Aborting = Removing a clump of cells that could, potentially, one day develop into a viable human

Does this make Herman Cain the real Libertarian candidate?

/brb, think my popcorn just finished.
//Personhood USA my left lip.
 
2011-10-21 10:12:57 AM
burndtdan: while i agree that this particular issue should be the choice of the family, i also think the assertion that it isn't the place of the government to tell people what decisions to make is... absolutely retarded.

what if i decide to rob a bank? is it the role of the government to say i shouldn't do that? i think it is.

sometimes conservatives forget that laws exist.


It's the Bank's responsibility to stop you. If they fail to do so, then the government should simply acknowledge that you are the more efficient free market participant.
 
2011-10-21 10:13:03 AM
MadMonk: He'll come on later today to say that he was just joking.

Or he misspoke. It seems that Cain was more libertarian than Ron Paul.
 
2011-10-21 10:14:24 AM
Idiots. If you've never read the finest works of Nietzsche, Baudrillard, Kant, Beck, Coulter, or Rawls, you don't have the slightest chance of understanding what Herman Cain is saying. Leave discussion to the grownups, subhumans. I am the supreme intervention and you are the dust. I consume that dust so that it may not impede our eyes from the true vision. Jean Baudrillard once stated at a 1987 lecture on French philosophy that "Bah gawd, it's Cain. He's pissed. Chokeslam him to hell." That is all I have to say on the matter. Be gone, subhumans. The necessity of conservation is done here.
 
2011-10-21 10:14:36 AM
Lost Thought 00: It's the Bank's responsibility to stop you. If they fail to do so, then the government should simply acknowledge that you are the more efficient free market participant.

Exactly. And please, don't call it 'bank robbery', it's narrow-focused hostile asset acquisition.
 
2011-10-21 10:18:49 AM
The best part was the audience reaction. They knew they were supposed to clap, but for some reason the stream of words being excreted from Mayor McCheese's mouth didn't make any sense. So you got occasional smatterings of applause during awkward gaps of total silence as if to say "Is it now? Are we supposed to clap for this now?"

Forget Obama's teleprompter. GOP audiences need a "clap for this" light and a "for God's sake don't cheer for this" light.
 
2011-10-21 10:18:50 AM
Lost Thought 00: burndtdan: while i agree that this particular issue should be the choice of the family, i also think the assertion that it isn't the place of the government to tell people what decisions to make is... absolutely retarded.

what if i decide to rob a bank? is it the role of the government to say i shouldn't do that? i think it is.

sometimes conservatives forget that laws exist.

It's the Bank's responsibility to stop you. If they fail to do so, then the government should simply acknowledge that you are the more efficient free market participant.


Exactly. The market provides an option in protection money, but because big government gets in the way mobsters are relegated to virtual slavery under their statist masters.
 
2011-10-21 10:18:59 AM
When did ethical questions become "gotcha" questions? It's not unreasonable to probe the inconsistency in a politician's position statements. Especially when they take positions of "I'm against something under ANY circumstances."
 
2011-10-21 10:20:01 AM
burndtdan: while i agree that this particular issue should be the choice of the family, i also think the assertion that it isn't the place of the government to tell people what decisions to make is... absolutely retarded.

what if i decide to rob a bank? is it the role of the government to say i shouldn't do that? i think it is.

sometimes conservatives forget that laws exist.


I wonder how he feels about gambling (lottery) or smoking marijuana. Some laws are generally agreed upon. Most are arbitrary.
 
2011-10-21 10:20:18 AM
Lenny_da_Hog: Apples and oranges.... apples... and oranges. No, you don't get it. It's apples.... and oranges....

...soooooo, you're saying I should rape the apple or the orange?
 
2011-10-21 10:20:47 AM
That's like comparing apples and some fruit nobody's ever heard of.
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2011-10-21 10:20:57 AM
Why does it matter what he says or what he said? He will never be president. He won't even be nominated.

When it comes to the GOP nomination, he is as relevant as Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. Which means he is not at all relevant.
 
2011-10-21 10:22:41 AM
Hollie Maea: It seems that Herman Cain is the first person I've ever seen who actually believes the "Liberal want forced abortions for everyone!" joke.

You don't remember a certain internet dentist?
 
2011-10-21 10:23:26 AM
I think 999 is really the number of positions Cain has taken this year.
 
2011-10-21 10:24:16 AM
Close2TheEdge: When did ethical questions become "gotcha" questions? It's not unreasonable to probe the inconsistency in a politician's position statements. Especially when they take positions of "I'm against something under ANY circumstances."

To nimrods like Cain, any group of words that end with a question mark is considered to be a "gotcha" question.

Man on street: "Hey, Cain. Isn't the weather nice today?"
Cain: "I'm not answering that 'gotcha' question."
 
2011-10-21 10:24:39 AM
This guy can speak well, as long as you let him say what he wants. It's a shame that he cannot. Repeat, cannot answer a straight question without leaving some gaping exit door open when he gets called on his answer.
Oh, and he will use the door.
He seems like a nice enough guy, but he's WAAAAY out of his league.
 
2011-10-21 10:25:01 AM
Romney's response to the remarkably bullshiat apples-oranges retort is, thus far, the best.
 
2011-10-21 10:25:06 AM
Lost Thought 00: It's the Bank's responsibility to stop you. If they fail to do so, then the government should simply acknowledge that you are the more efficient free market participant.

These anti-back robbing regulations are strangling job creators.

In order to keep a viable business running, job creators should be able to hire illegal immigrants who will work for less than minimum wage, dump waste wherever they want rather than paying to dispose of it, and occasionally rob a bank in order to stay profitable.

Why does government hate business so much?
 
2011-10-21 10:25:46 AM
I find it mildy promising that he wasn't able to quickly come up with some bullshiat to cover it.
 
2011-10-21 10:26:46 AM
Close2TheEdge: When did ethical questions become "gotcha" questions? It's not unreasonable to probe the inconsistency in a politician's position statements. Especially when they take positions of "I'm against something under ANY circumstances."

Everyone knows holding anyone accountable for the words that come out of their mouth is an infringement of free speech, for how can it be truly free under the oppressive constraints of logic, consistency, or honesty? Those are the wages of our oppressors!
 
2011-10-21 10:27:27 AM
sprawl15: [img13.imageshack.us image 275x142]

Loving it. Where do you make these wonderful thought dialog boxes? Me wanna play too.
 
2011-10-21 10:27:31 AM
AcneVulgaris: I find it mildy promising that he wasn't able to quickly come up with some bullshiat to cover it.


He did cover it, only he has to wait for someone to point to the misunderstanding before he can clarify. If he was specific at the time Morgan could have simply asked a clarifying question and Cain wouldn't have such an easy out.
 
2011-10-21 10:28:03 AM
AcneVulgaris: I find it mildy promising that he wasn't able to quickly come up with some bullshiat to cover it.

I find it more promising that a TV news employee acted almost like a journalist.
 
2011-10-21 10:28:04 AM
Cinaed: Romney's response to the remarkably bullshiat apples-oranges retort is, thus far, the best.

Not really, it involved the word Bush. (bushel)
 
2011-10-21 10:28:14 AM
Jackson Herring: You don't remember a certain internet dentist?

Yeah I was going to suggest that was Cain's Fark account, but figured I might get in trouble for that.
 
2011-10-21 10:28:46 AM
Jackson Herring: You don't remember a certain internet dentist?

Yeah, it's a shame he mostly posts as a different alt doesn't post as much anymore.
 
2011-10-21 10:28:55 AM
Another textbook example of why the Republican Party is literally schizophrenic.
 
2011-10-21 10:29:01 AM
sprawl15: Lost Thought 00: It's the Bank's responsibility to stop you. If they fail to do so, then the government should simply acknowledge that you are the more efficient free market participant.

Exactly. And please, don't call it 'bank robbery', it's narrow-focused hostile asset acquisition.


Agreed, and should the bank security staff manage to assert their free market rights via the application of high velocity "freedom pellets" to my torso and I happen to spill some of my "internal hemoglobin biased liquid assets" on one of the rugs in the bank's lobby. Then the bank is well within their rights to seek compensation from my family for the cost of cleaning said rug. Which is why I would never perform a narrow-focused hostile asset acquisition without a copy of my will which turns over my lucrative group-on based rug cleaning assets over to the bank in question in the event of my untimely disincorporation.
 
2011-10-21 10:29:40 AM
coeyagi: sprawl15: [img13.imageshack.us image 275x142]

Loving it. Where do you make these wonderful thought dialog boxes? Me wanna play too.


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I just crack open paint and throw down some 10pt Arial.
 
2011-10-21 10:29:48 AM
Superjew: Another textbook example of why the Republican Party is literally schizophrenic.

How can a uterus be simultaneously a nursery / war zone? WHAR? WHAR?
 
2011-10-21 10:29:55 AM
Cinaed: Romney's response to the remarkably bullshiat apples-oranges retort is, thus far, the best.

Romney couldn't understand that right now people pay both state and federal taxes. Under 999, they will just be paying them at the same time. Cain's apple and oranges analogy was just too complex for him to grasp.
 
2011-10-21 10:30:14 AM
Rann Xerox: Close2TheEdge: When did ethical questions become "gotcha" questions? It's not unreasonable to probe the inconsistency in a politician's position statements. Especially when they take positions of "I'm against something under ANY circumstances."

To nimrods like Cain, any group of words that end with a question mark is considered to be a "gotcha" question.

Man on street: "Hey, Cain. Isn't the weather nice today?"
Cain: "I'm not answering that 'gotcha' question."


Aren't ALL questions "gotcha" questions when you don't have an answer? And isn't that the point of beign asked questions in the first place, to demonstrate that you know more about an issue than you were expected to have known?
 
2011-10-21 10:30:24 AM
sprawl15: coeyagi: sprawl15: [img13.imageshack.us image 275x142]

Loving it. Where do you make these wonderful thought dialog boxes? Me wanna play too.

[img855.imageshack.us image 275x142]

I just crack open paint and throw down some 10pt Arial.


Fo realz? Thought it was a meme site. Ok.
 
2011-10-21 10:31:35 AM
Cinaed: Romney's response to the remarkably bullshiat apples-oranges retort is, thus far, the best.

What was it? I missed it.
 
2011-10-21 10:32:46 AM
badhatharry: Cain's apple and oranges analogy was just too complex for him to grasp.

Ah, right. I only pay Local and State level taxes on Tuesday. Thursday is for Federal taxes.
 
2011-10-21 10:33:10 AM
i53.tinypic.com

Maybe he should look into a better organizational system for keeping his inconsistent talking-points straight.
 
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