as long as it's not based on the adolescent garth ennis version, it might last because people like cop shows where the criminal is captured.

most superhero shows fail because the villain is never captured. that works in comic books but not on tv

Punisher should've adapted for a cable channel so that it can be as faithfully violent and crass as it needs to be as per Punisher Max. Eh, guess we'll fine out...

Unless there is copious amounts of death, what is the point? I already seem some dickhead exec tinkering with the premise to make it more like the A-Team, where bullets are afraid of flesh.

spman: Too bad The Punisher has never been portrayed very well in media adaptations. The Thomas Jane movie was pretty good, but didn't quite capture the non-stop violence of the comic, too much talking. That last Punisher movie that came out was ridiculously bad however, I remember laughing while watching it, they turned the movie into a second rate Dick Tracy knock off. Don't even get me started on Dolph Lundgren either....

It might work out as a show if it can be told as a piece about morality and rage. As in, at what point does a vigilante become a bad guy? Unfortunately, I think Dexter already has a lot of these bases covered.

spman: Too bad The Punisher has never been portrayed very well in media adaptations.

Which Punisher? MAX, rubber bullet Punisher or FrankenCastle? It's not like the comic incarnation was that consistent.

/Or, well, good.
//"Here's a special edition comic book full of badly drawn gun pr0n, enjoy!"

RexTalionis: The Devil's Robot: as long as it's not based on the adolescent garth ennis version, it might last because people like cop shows where the criminal is captured.

Hey, the Garth Ennis Marvel MAX run was pretty good.

As much as I dislike Greg Rucka, the new run is shaping up nicely as well. I don't really like The Punisher when he's in the "Marvel Universe" but I'll give this one a couple three arcs and see how it shapes up.

The procedural drama would center on New York City detective Frank Castle, who seeks justice on the side as a merciless vigilante named The Punisher.

LOL

FAIL

FTFA: The procedural drama would center on New York City detective Frank Castle, who seeks justice on the side as a merciless vigilante named The Punisher.


So basically, their Punisher is a cop who hunts criminals on the side on his own time, like Dexter or something. Farking fail. The Punisher is not a cop.

RexTalionis: and that's a seriously obscure comic book character for non-geeks

I didn't know who that was, and I'm a comic geek.

mongbiohazard: FTFA: The procedural drama would center on New York City detective Frank Castle, who seeks justice on the side as a merciless vigilante named The Punisher.


So basically, their Punisher is a cop who hunts criminals on the side on his own time, like Dexter or something. Farking fail. The Punisher is not a cop.

Maybe he could be played by ranier wolfcastle.

MENDOZA!!!

mongbiohazard: So basically, their Punisher is a cop who hunts criminals on the side on his own time, like Dexter or something. Farking fail. The Punisher is not a cop.

Castle: "Well, I can't get this guy as a cop. There isn't enough evidence. I think we're going to have to call......THE PUNISHER!"
[nods at camera]
[winks]

RexTalionis: Let's start a pool to see how quickly this is cancelled. I'm betting it will be cancelled by the 13th episode of the season, leaving 16 episodes overall.

I'm also betting that the episodes show up on Netflix Streaming less than 6 months after cancellation.

So who'll pay me to watch it so it'll get canceled

I think the only show on fox that hasn't been canceled when I started watching it was X-Files

So, this will be like the Cape only with more guns?

FTFA: The procedural drama would center on New York City detective Frank Castle, who seeks justice on the side as a merciless vigilante named The Punisher.

Because if there's one thing you look for in a Punisher comic, it's procedures.

Serious question for someone who hasn't read a comic in years: why hasn't Frank been sent to the gas chamber? I mean, he's not like Spiderman or the Hulk who can escape at will, he'd go down like Rorschach.

I always thought HBO should do an animated Punisher, in the same vein as they did Spawn some years back. But only if they give him his inner monologues.

As a Punisher fan, I just have this to say.

This just sounds horrible.

RexTalionis: drewogatory: As much as I dislike Greg Rucka, the new run is shaping up nicely as well. I don't really like The Punisher when he's in the "Marvel Universe" but I'll give this one a couple three arcs and see how it shapes up.

Greg Rucka was okay on Wonder Woman, if I recall. I stopped reading comics around time time Garth left Punisher, though.

How do you not like Rucka, especially recently? He did some great stuff at DC before he left (The Question, BatWoman, Gotham Central), and his creator-owned stuff is good too (Stumptown, Queen and Country, Whiteout). I haven't read any of his novels yet, but so far I think he's a damn good writer. And the current run of Punisher is really damn good.

On topic: this show will fail for the reasons above. The Punisher simply can't be a cop and still be the Punisher. He has to be a loner nutcase with a skewed sense of justice and a lot of anger issues. What's next, they'll keep his family alive and give him a love interest around sweeps time?

Fano: Serious question for someone who hasn't read a comic in years: why hasn't Frank been sent to the gas chamber? I mean, he's not like Spiderman or the Hulk who can escape at will, he'd go down like Rorschach.

For starters, he was not really a high priority, considering who his victims were. Then there is the fact he had lots of support from the Police, plus John Q. Public supported his ends, if not his means. Castle is also very smart, and cagey which helps a lot. Oh, and he generally uses the money the bad guys had to fund his operations as well as does a lot of good with it, ala Robin Hood.

But mostly, it is a comic book, and the story says he does not get captured and prosecuted.

texdent: As long as it's not
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or

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Apparently Frank became an avenging angel at one point

What the fark are those?

Get ready for a poorly executed "Dexter" with wooden acting and lousy dialogue.

Punisher works best played for laughs. Because it's an utterly silly character. That's why Ennis's run was so damn good.

If fox was smart they would put it on FX

Fano: Serious question for someone who hasn't read a comic in years: why hasn't Frank been sent to the gas chamber?

He just gets brought back to life through the power of bad writing

Don't make the Punisher a cop!

Slaves2Darkness: So, this will be like the Cape only with more guns?

So six seasons and a movie?

The Devil's Robot: as long as it's not based on the adolescent garth ennis version, it might last

What? Ennis' Punisher MAX is the only time the character actually worked as anything other than an adolescent power fantasy.

RexTalionis: Braindeath: RexTalionis: and that's a seriously obscure comic book character for non-geeks

I didn't know who that was, and I'm a comic geek.

If you want a good read, check out the Vertigo Human Target limited series and subsequent series. It's well worth it.

Thanks, I'll check that out.

mongbiohazard: FTFA: The procedural drama would center on New York City detective Frank Castle, who seeks justice on the side as a merciless vigilante named The Punisher.


So basically, their Punisher is a cop who hunts criminals on the side on his own time, like Dexter or something. Farking fail. The Punisher is not a cop.

Maybe they confused it with the 2099 version.

voran: Maybe they confused it with the 2099 version.

If they balled up and actually did it that way, I might have some respect for it.

2099 was the balls!

texdent: Big Beef Burrito: texdent: As long as it's not
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or

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Apparently Frank became an avenging angel at one point

What the fark are those?

Really bad story arcs.

How bad?

Comically bad?
So bad they aren't even worth checking if the library has them?

Got super excited until I saw it was FOX. FARK Fox. They don't like comic book shows, and they should stop ruining the IPs by trying. They're like a gay serial rapist that preys on women. It makes no sense, they don't enjoy it and it ruins the women for everyone else.


/Still pissed about season 2 of Human Target.

Confabulat: rubs his guns all night.

Who wouldn't rub them if they had them?

Showtime or HBO could pull this off but never Fox. Each episode of a Punisher series should have massive violence, over the top profanity, and one gratuitous nudity scene.

howdyyall9999: massive violence, over the top profanity, and one gratuitous nudity scene.

Preferably all at once, amirite?