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(NewsChannel 5 Nashville)   The TSA is now at your roadside, pull it over citizen   (newschannel5.com ) divider line
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2011-10-20 02:17:45 PM  
In what way does this not violate the constitution? Where is the probable cause, search warrant, etc?
 
2011-10-20 02:22:52 PM  
Halt! Ihre papiere bitte!
 
2011-10-20 02:23:07 PM  
who better to control the populace, than the populace itself?
 
2011-10-20 02:52:13 PM  
From what I read they are just at weigh stations and are checking trucks, for now. I'm sure it will creep to all vehicles.
 
2011-10-20 02:52:45 PM  
Hm. I wonder if there are any people out there absolutely outraged by this sort of violation of the constitution and lack of probable cause, search warrant, etc. who have absolutely no issues at all with the ID check component of Arizona's recent immigration law. Hm. I wonder. Iiiiiii wooooonderrrrr.
 
2011-10-20 02:56:48 PM  
"Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane more likely on the interstate," said Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner Bill Gibbons.

Using this as an indicator of the grammatical structure of this article, I'm not reading any further.
 
2011-10-20 02:57:10 PM  

adjmcloon: From what I read they are just at weigh stations and are checking trucks, for now. I'm sure it will creep to all vehicles.



they are already "encouraging" all motorists to report anything "suspicious" on the roads.
 
2011-10-20 02:57:19 PM  
DON'T FORGET TO SHIAT YOUR PANTS

SHIAT YOUR PANTS

SHIAT YOUR PANTS
 
2011-10-20 02:58:32 PM  
www.nndb.com

Approves.
 
2011-10-20 02:59:28 PM  

LordZorch: In what way does this not violate the constitution? Where is the probable cause, search warrant, etc?


The Fourth Amendment was deactivated in 2002.
 
2011-10-20 03:00:21 PM  
fark off fascists. I'm getting outta here as soon as I can afford it.
 
2011-10-20 03:00:28 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: adjmcloon: From what I read they are just at weigh stations and are checking trucks, for now. I'm sure it will creep to all vehicles.


they are already "encouraging" all motorists to report anything "suspicious" on the roads.


There are all sorts of urban legends about fake cops pulling people over and robbing/killing them out on country roads. And the police naturally want people to call in for that stuff, but now how would people know if they are being targeted by rapists in surplus uniforms or by the TSA?
 
2011-10-20 03:00:31 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Hm. I wonder if there are any people out there absolutely outraged by this sort of violation of the constitution and lack of probable cause, search warrant, etc. who have absolutely no issues at all with the ID check component of Arizona's recent immigration law. Hm. I wonder. Iiiiiii wooooonderrrrr.


Probably the same people who have a clue about both of the things you are talking about and know they are different.
 
2011-10-20 03:00:43 PM  

Wellon Dowd: LordZorch: In what way does this not violate the constitution? Where is the probable cause, search warrant, etc?

The Fourth Amendment was deactivated in 2002.


apparently. because what could possibly go wrong with encouraging busybodies to snitch on people anonymously.
 
2011-10-20 03:00:51 PM  
I can't see this working long term in a general traffic stop sense.

For that to work you're going to need cooperation from the police. I am not stopping because some security screener in a blue uniform waves me over. Bring a marked cruiser from a police I know (state, country, or local) or go home.

So then you have the local police wasting their time and money on this as well. I can't see our local law enforcement as all that thrilled to stand around in the cold ass Michigan winter while the TSA searches pickups. They'd have to put up with the cold and the biatching rednecks. Not fun.

The other way would be for the TSA to get "pull over powers" where they have marked cruisers, badges, etc. I assume though that most police forces would scream bloody murder about this. Most of them are already territorial enough and the idea of a 'federal police' would not fly.

Be interesting to see if it creeps past security screeners at the weigh station or not. Oh and for all you budding fark lawyers out there, I'm sure all 50 states will be shocked to discover loading checking at a way station is unconstitutional. They've only been doing it for decades after all....
 
2011-10-20 03:01:30 PM  
First they came for the trucks. but I was not a truck...
 
2011-10-20 03:01:44 PM  

adjmcloon: From what I read they are just at weigh stations and are checking trucks, for now. I'm sure it will creep to all vehicles.


Because terrorists are going to voluntarily pull over to weigh stations.
 
2011-10-20 03:01:53 PM  

LordZorch: In what way does this not violate the constitution? Where is the probable cause, search warrant, etc?


SAFETY ASSHOLE SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY! HOW DARE YOU!

That response is not terribly unlike what you would get if you called your local pol and asked that same question.
 
2011-10-20 03:01:59 PM  
Agents are recruiting truck drivers, like Rudy Gonzales, into the First Observer Highway Security Program to say something if they see something.

This guy sounds foreign and possibly brown.
 
2011-10-20 03:02:21 PM  
I saw this coming and began driving without any shoes on about 7 months ago.
 
2011-10-20 03:02:45 PM  
See someone you dont like?
Report them as 'suspicious'!!

Driving while black? Report'em!!

This is going to be fun!
You could flash mob the TSA with dozens of reports at once
 
2011-10-20 03:03:04 PM  
FTA: "The random inspections really aren't any more thorough normal, according to Tennessee Highway Patrol Colonel Tracy Trott who says paying attention to details can make a difference. Trott pointed out it was an Oklahoma state trooper who stopped Timothy McVeigh for not having a license plate after the Oklahoma City bombing in the early 1990s."

Yeah it was a great farking job. It was a stop to PULL OVER SOMEONE WITH A F*CKING LICENSE PLATE. It has shiat all do with what people are doing now. Maybe if you had STOPPED HIM FROM BLOWING UP THE GOD DAMN BOMB, you'd have a point.

Tracy Trott: Please make peace with your loved ones and drink some bleach.

I'm tired of this bullshiat that DHS & cronies and the White Houses have been spouting since 2001.
 
2011-10-20 03:03:07 PM  
Go ahead, tell us about how "slippery slope" isn't a valid argument


// Not looking for photos of lubed up lucy lu.
 
2011-10-20 03:03:30 PM  
So Tennessee thinks it's important enough to be a target of a terrorist attack? What exactly would they target?

And also:

"Somebody sees something somewhere and we want them to be responsible citizens, report that and let us work it through our processes to abet the concern that they had when they saw something suspicious,"

images.wikia.com
 
2011-10-20 03:03:36 PM  
The actual headline for the article would be considered trolling on this site. Subby shoulda just used it, this thread would be more fun already.
 
2011-10-20 03:03:47 PM  

PonceAlyosha: fark off fascists. I'm getting outta here as soon as I can afford it.


One piece of advice, if I may. America is farked and run by maniacs who lord over the stupid people (re: basically, all of us) and use Orwellian tactics to get us in line ...

... and it is STILL the best farking place to live. Sad, I know, but try and think positive. When you get "enough money", stay here and try and get more money since having enough money to rise above it all is the only way out of this mess.
 
2011-10-20 03:03:52 PM  

rebelyell2006: but now how would people know if they are being targeted by rapists in surplus uniforms or by the TSA?


There's a difference?

righttruth.typepad.com

Call it in. The TSA agent gets pulled over and harassed by a real cop and you can play ignorant of the whole thing.
=Smidge=
 
2011-10-20 03:04:45 PM  
blame bush?
 
2011-10-20 03:05:24 PM  
Perhaps this has something to do with that mosque they're trying to build in Murfreesboro.

But seriously, this sounds like it's more about looking for drugs and truckloads of Mexicans than about terrorism. I wonder whose brilliant idea this was?
 
2011-10-20 03:05:42 PM  

LordZorch: In what way does this not violate the constitution? Where is the probable cause, search warrant, etc?


I'll take a shot here


You forfeit your 4th amendment rights when you take your vehicle onto the government's roads ?

Same thing for DUIs, seatbelt laws, emissions or any vehicle searched by the cops during a stop. It might be your car but you consent to a search by virtue of driving it on a public road.
 
2011-10-20 03:05:44 PM  
Apparently the TSA have caught on that these are available for inspection on America's roads:

curlywurlygurly.files.wordpress.com

(Especially in Tenn., where most folks think trucks come this way, regardless of the truck's gender.)
 
2011-10-20 03:05:48 PM  

KingoftheCheese: I saw this coming and began driving without any shoes on or underwear about 7 months ago.


FTFY
 
2011-10-20 03:05:48 PM  
You have five seconds to comply, terrorist.
 
2011-10-20 03:06:06 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Oh and for all you budding fark lawyers out there, I'm sure all 50 states will be shocked to discover loading checking at a way station is unconstitutional. They've only been doing it for decades after all....


But in those cases they do the checking to make sure the vehicle is loaded and weighed properly so it won't mess up the highway or break a bridge, a concern that plagued early interstate trucking. Not to fight invisible terrorist leprechauns.
 
2011-10-20 03:06:11 PM  
Tuesday Tennessee was first to deploy VIPR simultaneously at five weigh stations and two bus stations across the state.

Weigh stations and bus stations? Who flucking goes to those?

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2011-10-20 03:06:27 PM  
He who surrenders freedom and liberty for security, deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin
 
2011-10-20 03:06:47 PM  
@DABillGibbons I see something. I see an asshole named Bill Gibbons shiatting on the Constitution. There, I said something. #TSA #CivilRights
 
2011-10-20 03:07:27 PM  
Tenn no one will attack your state, no one will pass through your state to attack another; you don't have a coastal port. Save some cash and ditch this.

It's a wight station. They can legally inspect your load anyway. Usually the state police are running those things. So they found a way to get ex McD's burger builders making $10hr to take jobs from cops?

Although the bus station bit is a little odd. Who takes buses? Poor people and students. What is this really gonna catch? Kids with weed.
 
2011-10-20 03:07:36 PM  
DHS/ICE/INS or whatever they're called these days have had check points on freeways in Arizona, California & Texas for years looking for illegal's and other stuff. Was delayed detained for 45min so they could run some biometrics cause the resident alien wife doen't always carry her greencard.
 
2011-10-20 03:07:49 PM  

Chinchillazilla: "Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane more likely on the interstate," said Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner Bill Gibbons.

Using this as an indicator of the grammatical structure of this article, I'm not reading any further.


WHAR TERRIST WHAR? NO MORE AIRPLAIN NOW INERSTAT!

/Now it's more readable for Tennesseeans.
 
2011-10-20 03:07:54 PM  
The United States: It's all one big repetitious Twilight Zone episode now.
 
2011-10-20 03:08:06 PM  
how complicated is it

If you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
 
2011-10-20 03:08:11 PM  
Good thing they are doing this in Tennessee that hotbed of international terrorism
 
2011-10-20 03:08:39 PM  
 
2011-10-20 03:10:03 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Most of them are already territorial enough and the idea of a 'federal police' would not fly.


www.rickmanistareview.com

You ask for federal police. I give you the F. B. I.
 
2011-10-20 03:10:24 PM  

Smidge204: Call it in. The TSA agent gets pulled over and harassed by a real cop and you can play ignorant of the whole thing.


Suspicious of the TSA? Call the cops.
Suspicious of cops? Call the TSA.
 
2011-10-20 03:10:51 PM  
Aw, they actually call that "fighting terrorism". How quaint.
 
2011-10-20 03:11:16 PM  
He is encouraging people to use their phones while driving?
 
2011-10-20 03:12:01 PM  
www.anunews.net
 
2011-10-20 03:12:04 PM  

rebelyell2006: ha-ha-guy: Oh and for all you budding fark lawyers out there, I'm sure all 50 states will be shocked to discover loading checking at a way station is unconstitutional. They've only been doing it for decades after all....

But in those cases they do the checking to make sure the vehicle is loaded and weighed properly so it won't mess up the highway or break a bridge, a concern that plagued early interstate trucking. Not to fight invisible terrorist leprechauns.


I'm not saying VIPR is worthwhile, smart or anything of that nature. I just associate VIPR with the government flushing more of my tax dollars.

My point is that things like truck weight stations (or mobile patrols that pull trucks over and check them) and drunk checkpoints have been a tool law enforcement for awhile. In the case of a drunk checkpoint it varies based on state court rulings. So the various GED in law farkers need to realize this isn't some new tool without precedent. The weight stations are legal, now we're just finding other ways (oogity, boogity terrorism) to use them.

If you really want to get mad, read Rehnquist's ruling on DUI checkpoints. He basically says "This infringes on the 4th, but it is for a good reason, so thus it is allowed". I really want to see someone force to the court to revisit this when we have some strict legal scholars on the bench.
 
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