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2003-09-28 08:18:21 PM
Recycled for her pleasure.
 
2003-09-28 08:18:34 PM
I'm always amazed at the number of dumbasses who think it's a good idea to pull a gun and wave it around at a cop (over a case of beer, no less). What possible outcome could you be trying to achieve?
 
2003-09-28 08:19:45 PM
I think the poster meant the thief was stupid.
 
2003-09-28 08:19:47 PM
I'm all for killing stupid people, but was it really necessary to shoot him in the head?

I mean, if she shot him in the shoulder he would be down. And if he still didn't drop the weapon put a couple more rounds into him.

Eh whatever.
 
2003-09-28 08:19:57 PM
Oops.

The Third Man -

It wasn't "the Maid O'Clover" store, it was the Blimpie's-Maid O'Clover convenience store. Makes much more sense now, doesn't it.

/sarcasm off
 
2003-09-28 08:23:34 PM
As far as the people bringing their kids around to look goes, I'm not sure I wouldn't. Especially in the kind of neighborhood where this happens and thugs can get some kind of cool rep.

"See, son, this guy doesn't look so cool now, does he? I'll bet he didn't do his homework or eat his veggies, either."
 
2003-09-28 08:24:49 PM
I'm all for gun control (and lets leave it at that, please) but the cop just did her job. It's NOT stupid, it's the law, with a little bit of common sense on the side.
 
2003-09-28 08:27:16 PM
Just yards away from the crowd, the man lay on the ground with a case of Keystone Ice and a gun beside him.

best... line... ever
 
2003-09-28 08:28:49 PM
Well done.



Pull a gun and you're asking for it shiatheads!
 
2003-09-28 08:28:59 PM
How much do you want to bet that the ventilated perp is a slave descendent?

/Swap our blacks for _real_ Africans who can appreciate the US...
 
2003-09-28 08:30:34 PM
Martyr Tag?
 
2003-09-28 08:32:38 PM
Otis, that's just wrong. And I'm hardly the P.C. type either.
 
2003-09-28 08:32:43 PM
Well, if thats the real story, sounds like suicide to me. However, i distrust cops, so part of me wonders if this was her backup gun.


malbien : Nope. You shoot someone, you shoot to kill. End of story. How much you want to bet she was aiming at his chest and missed by that much anyway? AS i understand it, Aim for center of mass, and pull the trigger untill hes down on the ground and no longer moving.
 
2003-09-28 08:34:28 PM
For all those farkers/farketts that are asking if the head shot was necessary, let me give you a bit of my training. The point of shooting someone is to disable them. If you get the head and he dies, well, he is disabled. End of discussion.

Kudos to the cop, it sounds like she did the right thing.

ohh and for the stupid asshat who stol the beer, "Thank God for Darwin"
 
2003-09-28 08:42:36 PM
I really fail to see how this is stupid. Pull a gun on someone, and you may get shot if they're armed. Pull a gun on a cop and you most likely will get shot. The fact that she gave him so much warning shows that she acted with the utmost convern to his safety and the safety of those around him. What would have happened if he raised up and started shooting? If the bullets had gone past her and hit someone behind her? Would people ask why she didn't fire?
 
2003-09-28 08:46:39 PM
Oh, on a side note, if someone starts whining about "he had his back turned". Too F*CKING bad. He was drunk, too bad. He waved the gun in the direction of the crowd. If I was there, I would have shot him.
 
2003-09-28 08:47:32 PM
good shot cop, I hope the asshat died quickly
 
2003-09-28 08:48:33 PM
Cops are stupid. She shot him in the back of the head as he turned to run away. And run away with not anything but his life, as he had already surrendered his beer. Cops are not brave. They roam in packs and have a full legal monopoly on coercion. Cops are not just. They don't care what the law is, or about the situations that produce difficulties with actual human beings that are bound to act like human beings. They don't give a rat's ass what principles you subscribe to about your precious private property. They are merely non-moral agents that are a part of leviathan, always existing only to purge those who don't fall in line with the idealist doctrines and appetites of the current ruling class. If you can't defend you and yours against the predations of others, you really shouldn't qualify for citizenship.
 
2003-09-28 08:49:06 PM
Who the fark calls 911 because some punk kid stole a case of beer? That's messed up.

"Let's tie up the line and take resources away from people having heart attacks and stuff to deal with this kid who jacked a case of keystone."

Brilliant.

The kid was a farking tool, sure, but so's the convenience store clerk. Guess that's why he's a convenience store clerk.
 
G2V
2003-09-28 08:49:11 PM
I really fail to see how this is stupid. Pull a gun on someone, and you may get shot if they're armed. Pull a gun on a cop and you most likely will get shot.

He pulled a gun on a cop... over stealing a case of beer.

Isn't the use of the stupid tag in this situation fairly obvious? It's not the cop, it's the thief.
 
2003-09-28 08:49:41 PM
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2124514

Sept. 28, 2003, 2:36PM

Clerk killed in shooting
By PEGGY O'HARE
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
A convenience store clerk was killed in southwest Houston late Friday by a gunman who ran away with a 12-pack of beer, firing his pistol into the air, police said.

Mohammad Rahman, 35, died from a gunshot wound to the chest, investigators said. Several witnesses were in the store at the time.

The incident happened at 10:40 p.m. Friday inside Pak's Food Store in the 5500 block of Gasmer, an area surrounded by apartments. Police did not disclose whether there was a robbery or some sort of confrontation, but said the gunman ran away after the shooting, fleeing westbound on Gasmer.

Witnesses said he was carrying the beer and fired his gun into the air as he fled. It was not known whether anything besides the beer was stolen.

The store was closed later Saturday afternoon as broken pieces of crime scene tape fluttered from a nearby fence.

The gunman was black, in his early 20s, about 5 feet 6 to 5 feet 7 inches tall, and had a thick build. He has long hair and was wearing dark clothes and a bandana, police said.

Any other witnesses are asked to call the Houston Police Department Homicide Division at 713-308-3600.
 
2003-09-28 08:50:35 PM
As I read it, the stupid tag was meant for the thief, not the cop.

I agree with Poltroon on the intention aspect. The head shot was most likely unintentional. I have had some police training on shooting, unless the person is wearing a vest, you do not generally aim for the head, it is a smaller target than the body mass, and it moves much quicker. This is especially true with bystanders in the area that may be hit by off target rounds.

But I doubt it was her "backup" gun, there were too many witnesses for her to deploy a throwdown weapon.
 
G2V
2003-09-28 08:53:56 PM
genericdefect

Is that sarcasm, or are you that big an anti-establishment tool?
 
2003-09-28 08:58:36 PM
genericdefect

RTFA. The guy turned towards bystanders with the gun still in his hand. He wasn't necessarily running. The cop was reacting to that. Sounds damn brave to me, she didn't shoot while he was pointing the gun at her, but when he pointed it at innocents... BLAM. She needs a medal.
 
2003-09-28 09:01:26 PM
Pigs are bloodthirsty. I bet it was a toy gun he was holding.
 
2003-09-28 09:09:23 PM
toy gun or not, he is now a statistic, and much more useful as a statistic than he would have been as a person, i'm sure.

sic semper shiatty beer thieves
 
2003-09-28 09:10:34 PM
Please do not feed the trolls.
Please do not attempt to pet the trolls.
Please do not sing and dance in front of the trolls.
Please do not cross-dress in front of the trolls.
Please do not expose pregnant women to the trolls.
 
2003-09-28 09:12:21 PM
genericdefect:

Please readjust your tinfoil hat and get back to reading Pravda.
 
2003-09-28 09:14:19 PM
2003-09-28 08:48:33 PM genericdefect
Cops are stupid. She shot him in the back of the head as he turned to run away. And run away with not anything but his life, as he had already surrendered his beer. Cops are not brave. They roam in packs and have a full legal monopoly on coercion.


Genericdefect, do you try hard to be this much of an asshat, or does it come naturally?

According to independent witnesses of the incident, the guy didn't turn and run, he turned and pointed his gun at innocent bystanders.

As for the cop not being brave, she stood him down first, while he was already pointing his pistol at her. She could have shot him with justifcation then, and held off. As for roaming in packs, according to the story, it was just her, no group of cops all shooting at once.

I'll leave the rest of your paranoid rantings for someone else to rip up. Til then, buy some more tinfoil.
 
2003-09-28 09:15:20 PM
"Beer Rip". I just had a Taco Bell Rip; is that similar? I hope I don't get shot over it.
 
2003-09-28 09:18:29 PM
why are people defending the thief?

are you from California, where the bad guy is justified?
 
2003-09-28 09:23:06 PM
malbien,

Cops are taught to shoot to kill. In the event that they are required to pull the trigger, they are not going to take the chance that the suspect will have ANY opportunity to retaliate.
 
2003-09-28 09:23:15 PM
CAN'T SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR IT?

/Moe's Tavern
 
2003-09-28 09:24:52 PM
MooglyGuyI enjoyed that.
 
2003-09-28 09:29:24 PM
VegasVinnie, beer rip, taco bell rip, white castle rip, they'll all melt the curtains on any given weekend.
 
2003-09-28 09:33:16 PM
2003-09-28 08:28:59 PM OtisWild
How much do you want to bet that the ventilated perp is a slave descendent?

/Swap our blacks for _real_ Africans who can appreciate the US...





Oh, Mooglyguy sorry I couldn't help it. :-)
 
2003-09-28 09:34:51 PM
There is no other purpose to shoot someone then to kill them. The person you are shooting is posing a threat to either you or others. If you only wound him he will most likely be able to get plenty of shots off. If someone needs to be shot, they need to be dead.
 
2003-09-28 09:37:19 PM
"See Boys and Girls You steal like this poor dead bish and you get wasted... oh and don't pull your Pistols on officers either..."
 
2003-09-28 09:42:04 PM
lonerancher, plus there's always the point that if you are not shooting to kill then if the person dies you'd feel like you did something you didn't mean to do. I was always taught that you shoot to kill because any bullet wound can be potentially fatal.
 
2003-09-28 09:49:55 PM
Having been in a 'live fire' (wax bullets) shoot/dont-shoot exercise with the local cops I can appreciate (somewhat) how freaking hard that situation is -- those of you pissing on the cop should just shut up unless you've been there.
 
2003-09-28 09:50:30 PM
Who is the jackass that posted this with a stupid tag? It looks like the poster didn't even read the article this time. He wasn't shot for stealing beer, he was shot for pulling a gun.
 
2003-09-28 09:53:03 PM
"Just yards away from the crowd, the man lay on the ground with a case of Keystone Ice and a gun beside him."
Sounds like the first line of a novel. Illustrated novel.

Photoshop?
 
2003-09-28 09:55:12 PM
When he did not, she shot him once in the head, killing him, Winkey said.

Aimbot.

And Keystone Ice? What a dumbass.
 
2003-09-28 09:59:08 PM
"Other neighbors gathered outside Saturday afternoon and evening as police officers processed evidence. Some brought children to look at the body."

"See what happens if you don't eat your greens"
 
2003-09-28 10:06:46 PM
genericdefect:

She did her job. Read the article. He didn't run and wasn't unarmed. He turned the gun on unarmed civilians and was shot. Guess what? She should get a medal for that. If he had dropped the gun and ran that would have been a completely different story. What article did you read?
 
2003-09-28 10:09:09 PM
shumz

Gun control in America is a joke..

Hey, a head shot! I call that great gun comtrol.
Hit what you aim at.
 
2003-09-28 10:10:52 PM
genericdefectbocadem

TROLLS. I am not even going to give you a 'raging' on that cause you are barely even trolls. If you are going to troll stick around and defend your 'trollness'. You guys are just some punk ass drive-by trollers.
 
2003-09-28 10:13:09 PM
"communist, libertinist, naked ___________________________ "To children of the Great Depression, however, it still seems a mild shame to outlaw from polite thought, because of the crimes of tyrants, a word that in the beginning described for us nothing more than a possibly reasonable alternative to the Wall Street crapshoot." -Kurt Vonnegut, on Communism"

Genericdefect, let me clue you in on a few things. First of all, most of you american communists live on cloud 9. I'll bet you come from a nice upper-middle-class white family. You dont trust your gov't and think that all these groups like greenpeace and PETA are the real freedom fighters.

Get a clue

I was a member of greenpeace until i realized that there was nothing more than a fundraising system and an anti-gov't center. It disgusted me to hear some of the crap these idiots spew. Go visit NK, or Cuba. I have family living in Cuba. They'd kill to get out of that hellhole. Capitalism may suck, but its a helluva lot better than the alternative.
 
2003-09-28 10:16:27 PM
genericdefect
Why would the guy need the gun to run away. If he threw down the gun, I might ALMOST buy that, but he didn't. It is more likely he was trying to find a hostage than run away.

Anyone who pulls a gun during a robbery of $11 dollars of booze deserves to be killed. I almost wanna put it up on darwin awards.
 
2003-09-28 10:25:18 PM
bocadem

I bet it was a toy gun he was holding.

If that was the case it would be two reasons to shoot 'em. He was both stupid and dumb. Stupid for pulling a gun, and dumb for pulling a toy.

Hopefully he did not leave chirdren. You can take that both ways.
 
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