JerseyTim: No one draws attention from his crappy quarterback by saying outlandish things quite like Rex Ryan.

Yeah, Plaxico recently said their timing "couldn't be more off". considering he's been on the team since July, shouldn't they be in sync by now? Sheesh.

Its pretty great how Shrex managed to insult both his current team and Norv Turner in one sentence.

The Ryan brothers always remind me of The Dude and Walter.

What a fat idiot.

oh feeeeeet


/well, foooooot anyway

The only ring that will ever be in the Ryan household.

The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

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The only ring that will ever be in the Ryan household.

This. Keep talking, big guy.

Boy, apple really doesn't fall that far from the tree does it? His dad was just as delusional about his head coaching prowess.

IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

funk_soul_bubby: Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy?

Do the players, who are professionals and ideally want to increase their market value, want to tank an entire season so that a rookie can get slotted into a complex position because he might be really good at the pro level? All "Suck for Luck" does is reward players for defecting- if one corner puts up a very good game despite his team sucking, that corner improves his chances of getting an offer from a better team when his contract is out.

mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

No.

mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

No, his brother was the linebacker coach or something.

As best I can tell, the only reasons Rex has a job are:

1. his dad is Buddy Ryan
2. he had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed in their prime in Baltimore

JerseyTim: No one draws attention from his crappy quarterback by saying outlandish things quite like Rex Ryan.

You know, I hear that every week "Rex is good at taking the focus off his players...."

well, how has his attentipon whorin been working out for the Jets?

mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

Different Ryan

funk_soul_bubby: IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

Regardless of that every analyst is predicting Andrew Luck to be the next John Elway, the worth of that pick for any number of active players or even 2nd, 3rd etc picks that it could reap. A perfect world would be your Colts getting Andrew Luck, and him being tutored by arguably the best quarterback in the league until Peyton's retirement is a fantastical situation. That would set Andrew Luck up for success rather, than inevitable failure in a dysfunctional environment. The Colts have really been exposed this season for their lack of preparation in the absence of Peyton but, also it's shown how much the Colts must reevaluate their offense. The entirety, placed upon one actor's shoulders is asinine and setting yourself up for a Bronco's-esque decade of irrelevance.

Turner: 'What is there to clarify Rex? You're an asshole. We get it.'

+++++++++++++++++++carrier lost++++++++++++++++++++++++

mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

Romeo Crennel

Ruffian: Boy, apple really doesn't fall that far from the tree does it? His dad was just as delusional about his head coaching prowess.

And just as big of a douchebag too!

So when does this stop being funny for Jets players and fans? Cuz you know, when he first came in it was like, 'Oh he is trying to bring some swagger to a team that really needs to shed a lackadasical image' and that was cool and all...now two or three years on it is kinda wearing thin, no?

relcec: funk_soul_bubby: IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

wtf are you going on about? are you one of the weirdos that thinks your desire for your team to win while your sitting at home on your sofa can or can not f*ck up their *philosophy* or mojo or something? wtf is the "next man up" philosphy that you employ from your chair? just stfu already.

I'm a dolphins fan and I'll be happy the more games they lose this year now becuase this season was over 3 weeks ago and the more they lose now, the better probability they get a great pick, a qb with great upside and correspondignly a great coach and the likliehood for much better future seasons. 6-10 and Tony S will be our disaster. not 1-15. and I'm not delusional to think any player or coach in the nfl gives a f*ck what I think. You are a nut case.

and this may come as a newsflash to you, but your team does suck too. they are trying just as hard. manning will be 36 and just had his neck fused you idiot.

Did you get Fark confused with the Madden forums?

meddleRPI: relcec: funk_soul_bubby: IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

wtf are you going on about? are you one of the weirdos that thinks your desire for your team to win while your sitting at home on your sofa can or can not f*ck up their *philosophy* or mojo or something? wtf is the "next man up" philosphy that you employ from your chair? just stfu already.

I'm a dolphins fan and I'll be happy the more games they lose this year now becuase this season was over 3 weeks ago and the more they lose now, the better probability they get a great pick, a qb with great upside and correspondignly a great coach and the likliehood for much better future seasons. 6-10 and Tony S will be our disaster. not 1-15. and I'm not delusional to think any player or coach in the nfl gives a f*ck what I think. You are a nut case.

and this may come as a newsflash to you, but your team does suck too. they are trying just as hard. manning will be 36 and just had his neck fused you idiot.

Did you get Fark confused with the Madden forums?

Other people playing sports: SERIOUS BUSINESS

relcec: wtf is the "next man up" philosphy that you employ from your chair? just stfu already.

Do you pay attention to the NFL at all?

relcec: I'm a dolphins fan

I get it. You mad.

I thought it was an interestingly posed question myself. I didn't mean to insult your franchise, buddy.

funk_soul_bubby: IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

Part of that can be laid at Peyton's feet as well. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fantastic QB, but I think he kept overstepping his boundaries in what made him a QB rather than a coach. Regardless of who the coach was, Peyton would always bring the players in for his own coaching sessions over the summer, and he was always very quick to override any play calls coming from the sideline. For most of the past six years or so, the coaches relied on Payton to not only be a QB, but to be a de facto on the field coach for the offense. WIthout him, it's not just a QB they are missing, but a strategic leader. You can bring in anyone with the same arm strength and physical ability as Manning, but no one will be able to replace his brains and leadership.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: .

Totally agree that he's a general on the field commanding his troops. Rightfully so, in order to replace Peyton you'll need more than one man. In addition, the Colts organization now have the coaches taking that burden back from the QB position.

I really liked what i saw from Painter early on, and i'm interested to see if he can continue to add to the Rookie QB story that's playing out in Carolina and Cincy.

RumsfeldsReplacement: mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

No, his brother was the linebacker coach or something.

As best I can tell, the only reasons Rex has a job are:

1. his dad is Buddy Ryan
2. he had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed in their prime in Baltimore

Marvin Lewis
Mike Nolan
Rex Ryan
Greg Mattison

Lots of people benefited from Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. Heck, Chuck Pagano will probably become a head coach soon thanks to Lewis, Reed, Ngata, and Suggs.

IKanHazaBukkit: mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

Romeo Crennel

Rob Ryan was the Pats' linebackers' coach from 2000-2003.

relcec: funk_soul_bubby: IKanHazaBukkit: The way the Jets squad played in the 1st quarter against the 'fins you woulda thought they'd lose that game. Go figure, the 'fins found a way to beat themselves and accelerate their streak in the 'suck for luck' sweepstakes.

Their defense is incredibly solid but, man the Sanchise has to spend less time in tight white pants and tight black T-shirts and more time on the field.

This is becoming an interesting deal for me, especially as a Colts fan. Does your fan base want to watch you tank an entire season for one guy? Hell no, they don't. So then were that to happen, would said fan base resent the guy? I have nothing against him, but I have serious reservations about tanking for the guy (which I don't think they will do in the long run at all). I mean, the implications to the rest of the team, saying we're going to lose for one guy, there's no amount of talent that can compensate for that contradiction to the entire franchise and team philosophy. Now in the case of the Dolphins, they just genuinely blow. If you suck and you know it, then you already suck, so get Luck.

In short, if you're philosophy is "next man up", you're going completely counter to that by tanking, and that could cause permanent damage to the team dynamic. And they've already done this with the Collins thing. That was completely not "next man up."

/My two cents, if it's even worth that

wtf are you going on about? are you one of the weirdos that thinks your desire for your team to win while your sitting at home on your sofa can or can not f*ck up their *philosophy* or mojo or something? wtf is the "next man up" philosphy that you employ from your chair? just stfu already.

I'm a dolphins fan and I'll be happy the more games they lose this year now becuase this season was over 3 weeks ago and the more they lose now, the better probability they get a great pick, a qb with great upside and correspondignly a great coach and the likliehood for much better future seasons. 6-10 and Tony S will be our disaster. not 1-15. and I'm not delusional to think any player or coach in the nfl gives a f*ck what I think. You are a nut case.

and this may come as a newsflash to you, but your team does suck too. they are trying just as hard. manning will be 36 and just had his neck fused you idiot.

Dude...relax.

heavymetal:

Rex Ryan brought this on himself. While a different type of coaching style between the two, the Jets are starting to remind me of the Falcons under Jim Mora Jr. right before he lost total control of the team and everything fell apart. I think both's initial success was based on the foundation laid by the coach they replaced.

I know people hate Ryan, and he does talk a lot. But, does anyone really (Other than Ryan) think the Jets have the talent of a team that went to the AFC Championship game in back to back seasons? The Jets are 3-3 this year, losing to 3 teams, on the road, that will most likely be playoffs teams (Well, Ravens and Pats, anyhow). Ryan is already far more accomplished as a head coach than Mora is. The most comparable coach to Ryan, in terms of success is Jim Harbaugh (Who was 20-12 in first two regular seasons with 2 wild card finishes, and won division in 3rd season, but lost in divisional round. You can argue that's better than 2 AFC Championship games in 2 seasons).

But even if the Jets finish 6-10 this year, I'd say Rex deserves a lot of rope. Most new coaches taking over a non-super bowl team don't go to the SB immediately (Even if they think they should). Even Sean Payton took 4 years (and the signing of a top NFL QB) to win the SB. Were people talking about firing him after his 3rd season?

Why are you so convinced that he will "lose total control of the locker room". Other than he talks a lot and the media keeps repeatedly saying it? Rex Ryan, by virture of being a big mouth, in NYC, will always be a guy that's perpetually underrated and overrated at the same time.

It was a monumentally stupid thing to insult another coach the way he did. I imagine someone asked him what he thought about the talent of SD (In some form) and he was essentially thought that they had the talent to win the SB, but he did it in his Rex way. But until I actually see any signs that he's losing the locker room (You want a coach that lost the locker room, look at the Dolphins, they looked beyond flat against the Jets, they just looked like they didn't care), I'm not going to believe it.

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Nice turkey neck.

Wait. Lets hold the hate for a second. Did anyone actually think about what Rex said? Cuz i dont think hes wrong. I thinks theres about 5-7 coachs out there who if they had the Chargers, may have won a superbowl. These guys have been in a shiat division for years. They are given home field advantage throughout the playoffs annually, and somehow still suck huge balls. I actually dont think Rex is wrong on this. Chargers should have won a chip for years now.

mikaloyd: Sanchez IS the Jets franchise! His team mates are totally letting him down.

This is ridiculous. With Mangold in there, Sanchez looks perfectly fine, he's performing around10th in the league right now, and that's including a week where he got massacred by the Ravens. When your line is letting Ed Reed get to you within a second of snapping the ball, your numbers that week will suck.

He's not the greatest QB to get on the field, but as long as he's not getting STOMPED he'll put the ball in good places, and will even use his legs from time to time.

drkdstryer: JohnHall: But until I actually see any signs that he's losing the locker room (You want a coach that lost the locker room, look at the Dolphins, they looked beyond flat against the Jets, they just looked like they didn't care), I'm not going to believe it.

Rex Ryan is far and away the most popular coach amongst NFL players. He's in at 21%, Tomlin is second at 12%.

Here's a pretty good write up about why players love Ryan.

Mr. Harbaugh over in SF is rapidly rising as a player favorite after handshake-gate.

vinnydoz007: Wait. Lets hold the hate for a second. Did anyone actually think about what Rex said? Cuz i dont think hes wrong. I thinks theres about 5-7 coachs out there who if they had the Chargers, may have won a superbowl. These guys have been in a shiat division for years. They are given home field advantage throughout the playoffs annually, and somehow still suck huge balls. I actually dont think Rex is wrong on this. Chargers should have won a chip for years now.

Nobody thinks Ryan is wrong, they just think he's an idiot for saying it out loud.

degenerate-afro: RumsfeldsReplacement: mikaloyd: Didnt Ryan used to coach for the Patriots when they had defense and went to Super Bowls?

No, his brother was the linebacker coach or something.

As best I can tell, the only reasons Rex has a job are:

1. his dad is Buddy Ryan
2. he had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed in their prime in Baltimore

Marvin Lewis
Mike Nolan
Rex Ryan
Greg Mattison

Lots of people benefited from Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. Heck, Chuck Pagano will probably become a head coach soon thanks to Lewis, Reed, Ngata, and Suggs.

1. He went to the AFC Championship game the last 2 seasons.

2. In his first two seasons as Jets head coach they had the #1 and #3 defense in Yards Allowed, and #1 and #6 defense in Points allowed. (Last Jets defense to finish in top 10 in defense in points & Yards, 2004)

3. Players seem to really like him (Though, I think this is quite overstated as a benefit)

I don't really see a reason why Rex wouldn't have a job, other than "He talks a lot of crap". He's a good coach who's been quite successful as a head coach.