Perhaps Romney's campaign is moving away from calling the man a moron since Perry has the support of all the hardcore Republican voters and volunteers, and that even after six years of campaign Romney still hasn't gotten over 25% support in a poll.

The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

I have seen many Texans post on Fark calling this guy every name in the book.

Save a pretzel for the gas jets! Thank you, I wrote that.

tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

He's got the look of a president though. Does anyone still believe that the office of the president is more than a figurehead who looks good campaigning?

Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

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/oh the circus of derp that would ensue would make my cold dark heart warm again

Corvus: tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

I have seen many Texans post on Fark calling this guy every name in the book.

Which is particularly impressive since Texas outlawed books in the 70's.

ddam: Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Sarah Who?

Oh, the washed-up Fox commentator. I don't think the Republicans actually stand people like that for election.

ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Not so much. You'll see someone like Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The veep slot is all about pandering to different segments of the public. Why run a divisive woman to garner the female vote when you can run a Hispanic woman and pander to two "minorities" with one stone. Plus it re-secures a somewhat swing state

Krymson Tyde: ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

So you're predicting a Perry/Palin ticket. Gold, Jerry!

Will never happen. Perry would spend all his time on the tour bus trying to execute that tard kid of hers. And possibly the one with Down Syndrome too.

bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Not so much. You'll see someone like Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The veep slot is all about pandering to different segments of the public. Why run a divisive woman to garner the female vote when you can run a Hispanic woman and pander to two "minorities" with one stone. Plus it re-secures a somewhat swing state

You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

Boxcutta: Save a pretzel for the gas jets! Thank you, I wrote that.

You can borrow my Kwanza cd

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Every Republican I know: RON PAUL

Once again, RON PAUL is the most loved Republican candidate who nobody actually wants to vote for.

/Fun Fact: Ron Paul is actually even older than John McCain!

ddam: Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Nah. She's used. They want new.

In 2008, after McCain won, Sarah came out of the of the blue and everyone was saying "Sarah who? Oh, cool! Boobies! Yea"

Mugato: Edsel: Once again, RON PAUL is the most loved Republican candidate who nobody actually wants to vote for.

Ron Paul has a lot of ideas that I believe in where Obama falls short IMO, mostly on foreign policy. He doesn't stand a chance though, in no small part because Fox News hates him. Ron Paul suggests that maybe the terrorists hate us for more than the talking point that "they hate us for our freedoms"? Yeah, he's out.

Ron Paul, unlike most of the other candidates, at least has a working understanding of what the issues America faces are.

The problem is, his solutions to those issues are batfark insane.

ddam: You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white?

I think it's hilarious that the GOP has to factor in their own party's bigotry in selecting a candidate for president.

"We like Romney....but he's not a real Christian"
"Rubio is a good solid candidate....but he's a dark-skinned anchor baby"
"Cain is a solid professional businessman.....but is he electable in the south?"

etc etc.

Rubio and Romney are actually pretty good candidates, imho. I disagree with a lot of their positions but I don't think either one is batshiat crazy like Cain or Bachmann and, some pandering to the fundy base aside, I don't think either one is a Christian dominionist like Bachmann or Perry or Palin or Newt or Santorum. They're both just unelectable by their own party's internal rules about who is and who is not part of the Volksgemeinschaft

ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Not so much. You'll see someone like Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The veep slot is all about pandering to different segments of the public. Why run a divisive woman to garner the female vote when you can run a Hispanic woman and pander to two "minorities" with one stone. Plus it re-secures a somewhat swing state

You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.
2) Projecting racial ignorance doesn't do much but secure voters for your adversary. When you imply that every Republican is primarily racist before anything else, you solidify the base for people who take your projection as an insult to their character. I.e. saying that someone who isn't racist is somehow prejudiced reflects poorly on your party, policy or agenda from their perspective. Where you may believe that voters will flee to your cause because you wield the race card, you turn away voters who see through the extreme rhetoric.

As a gol-darned lib'rul, I hold no illusions about the current GOP conflict between Perry and Romney.
As soon as two hands are raised at the conventions - the presidential nominee and the vice-presidential nominee - everyone over there will be buddies again. They'll recall fondly their days on the primary campaign trail as simply a period of "sharpening their claws" for the general election battle to come.
In other words, the tougher the Republicans battle among themselves now, the harder they'll make it for the president later.

Mugato: Ron Paul suggests that maybe the terrorists hate us for more than the talking point that "they hate us for our freedoms"? Yeah, he's out.

It doesn't help that he then turns around and says that the proper approach to dealing with a negotiation situation by terrorists is to audit the fed.

impaler: Many viewers saw it as an attack on Perry's intelligence. And a few hours after it went up, the video disappeared... after Romney's election team remembered they were campaigning for the Republican primaries.

Instead of attacking, Mitt should make an add where he dons a hockey helmet and smears his own shiat all over the walls while screaming "TAX CUTS".

bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Not so much. You'll see someone like Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The veep slot is all about pandering to different segments of the public. Why run a divisive woman to garner the female vote when you can run a Hispanic woman and pander to two "minorities" with one stone. Plus it re-secures a somewhat swing state

You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.
2) Projecting racial ignorance doesn't do much but secure voters for your adversary. When you imply that every Republican is primarily racist before anything else, you solidify the base for people who take your projection as an insult to their character. I.e. saying that someone who isn't racist is somehow prejudiced reflects poorly on your party, policy or agenda from their perspective. Where you may believe that voters will flee to your cause because you wield the race card, you turn away voters who see through the extreme rhetoric.

1. Conservative americans attacked people of Indian descent after 9/11 because they looked brown.
2. Where did I say that all GOP is racist? I said that the base (which for the past 10 years has gone even more towards the right) will not vote for a minority nationally. I base that on what I've seen of Tea Party protests where, while some criticism of Obama was valid, a lot of it was based on racism.

Here's an example... if the GOP really was beyond race then they wouldn't want to deport an illegal brown girl that lived in the US since she was 2 and graduated HS among the top of the class... those are the people we should welcome to our country. But since she's brown she's not wanted here. Anchor babies? That wasn't a problem till achor babies were brown. Immigrants taking jobs? Not a problem unless they are brown. Terrorists? Not a problem unless they are brown - look at the stink they raised when Secret Service (or FBI/CIA) released that report saying that the biggest problem in US regarding terrorism is right wing white militias.

I actually want a GOP that isn't retarded because that would be good for the US. If we had 2 parties that had the goal to help Americans (all americans not only the top 1% or the bottom 50% or whatever) then I'd be all for the loser of the national election to be the VP. That would bring balance to the White House.

bluelancer03: tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

He's got the look of a president though. Does anyone still believe that the office of the president is more than a figurehead who looks good campaigning?



"If you look like a President, you're halfway there. I pulled it off first, and better than you, junior!"

bluelancer03: tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

He's got the look of a president though. Does anyone still believe that the office of the president is more than a figurehead who looks good campaigning?

Needs one more head and an extra arm.

Boxcutta: Save a pretzel for the gas jets! Thank you, I wrote that.


I am thoroughly against Mitt Romney's borrow-more-than-one-Kwanzaa-CD-at-at-time position.

spongeboob: A Dark Evil Omen: ddam: Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Sarah Who?

Oh, the washed-up Fox commentator. I don't think the Republicans actually stand people like that for election.

Not sure if serious?

Tongue firmly in cheek.

tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

I would want Perry to win the nomination just to have Texas in play. It would be the first time since I've started following Presidential Politics that the unpopularity of someone that is governor of the state who is now running for President would actually make their deep red/blue state an actual tossup.

bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: What's funny is that with all these candidates who are clawing at each other like catty little biatches, two of them are going to have to become running mates and suddenly become best friends. I realize this isn't any different from any other election in US history but it just seems especially amusing with this one, considering intensity of the catfighting.

Whoever wins will get Sarah Palin as VP. With the short term memory problems that the GOP seems to have, they already forgot how much she failed in 2008.

Not so much. You'll see someone like Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The veep slot is all about pandering to different segments of the public. Why run a divisive woman to garner the female vote when you can run a Hispanic woman and pander to two "minorities" with one stone. Plus it re-secures a somewhat swing state

You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.

One more issue with this idiotic statement of yours. You're claiming that the GOP base is in no way racist while saying that besides her hispanic last name she's effectively white? What kind of thinking process do you use to come up with that idea?

Romney/Perry 2012. Book it. Done. Romney is intelligent, he deliver a cogent speech, and of all the Republican candidates he's the least likely to do something completely batshiat insane if he gets elected. Perry energizes the base with his idiotic blather, but he brings votes. He's like Joe Biden. Biden shoots his mouth off all the time, but he was the missing piece that Obama lacked: foreign policy experience. Perry is the same thing for Romney: a colorful personality.

Rwa2play: tnpir: The only people stupider than Rick Perry are people who think Rick Perry is presidential material.

/Texas resident
//lived with this farkstick as governor for 10 damn years

I would want Perry to win the nomination just to have Texas in play. It would be the first time since I've started following Presidential Politics that the unpopularity of someone that is governor of the state who is now running for President would actually make their deep red/blue state an actual tossup.

It wouldn't be as close as you think. Perry easily won re-election last year against a strong candidate (who ran a terrible campaign). But it could be close enough that Perry would have to spend resources here just to make sure.

ddam: If we had 2 parties that had the goal to help Americans (all americans not only the top 1% or the bottom 50% or whatever) then I'd be all for the loser of the national election to be the VP. That would bring balance to the White House.

They tried that. It ended badly.

ddam: If we had 2 parties that had the goal to help Americans (all americans not only the top 1% or the bottom 50% or whatever) then I'd be all for the loser of the national election to be the VP. That would bring balance to the White House.

They tried this. it doesn't work. It was so problematic they amended the Constitution to do away with it

"The cornerstone of democracy rests on the foundation of an educated electorate"

I weep for the future of our country

ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato:
You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.
2) Projecting racial ignorance doesn't do much but secure voters for your adversary. When you imply that every Republican is primarily racist before anything else, you solidify the base for people who take your projection as an insult to their character. I.e. saying that someone who isn't racist is somehow prejudiced reflects poorly on your party, policy or agenda from their perspective. Where you may believe that voters will flee to your cause because you wield the race card, you turn away voters who see through the extreme rhetoric.

1. Conservative americans attacked people of Indian descent after 9/11 because they looked brown.
2. Where did I say that all GOP is racist? I said that the base (which for the past 10 years has gone even more towards the right) will not vote for a minority nationally. I base that on what I've seen of Tea Party protests where, while some criticism of Obama was valid, a lot of it was based on racism.

Here's an example... if the GOP really was beyond race then they wouldn't want to deport an illegal brown girl that lived in the US since she was 2 and graduated HS among the top of the class... those are the people we should welcome to our country. But since she's brown she's not wanted here. Anchor babies? That wasn't a problem till achor babies were brown. Immigrants taking jobs? Not a problem unless they are brown. Terrorists? Not a problem unless they are brown - look at the stink they raised when Secret Service (or FBI/CIA) released that report saying that the biggest problem in US regarding terrorism is right wing white militias.

I actually want a GOP that isn't retarded because that would be good for the US. If we had 2 parties that had the goal to help Americans (all americans not only the top 1% or the bottom 50% or whatever) then I'd be all for the loser of the national election to be the VP. That would bring balance to the White House.

Thanks for making my point. Blanket statements just turn off individuals. If you fail to see down to an individual level, you brand your message poorly and can't appeal to sensible voters of the party that you oppose.

ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: .

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.

One more issue with this idiotic statement of yours. You're claiming that the GOP base is in no way racist while saying that besides her hispanic last name she's effectively white? What kind of thinking process do you use to come up with that idea?

It's a responsive argument to your first implication. You assumed her appearance was more hispanic because of her last name. I am pointing out that she isn't "brown" (to use your words) and that regardless, she appeals to both hispanic and conservative voters in her state.

Does it bother you when the people you have branded racist can see past a person's appearance or cultural heritage to the ideals that they espouse?

bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato:
You think that the GOP "base" will vote for someone not white? They'll stay at home or they'll field a third party candidate. One thing for sure is that if either Romney or Perry win the nomination, the loser will not be a VP for the other. I could be wrong but I don't see how they could work together after all the bad shiat they've been saying about each other.

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.
2) Projecting racial ignorance doesn't do much but secure voters for your adversary. When you imply that every Republican is primarily racist before anything else, you solidify the base for people who take your projection as an insult to their character. I.e. saying that someone who isn't racist is somehow prejudiced reflects poorly on your party, policy or agenda from their perspective. Where you may believe that voters will flee to your cause because you wield the race card, you turn away voters who see through the extreme rhetoric.

1. Conservative americans attacked people of Indian descent after 9/11 because they looked brown.
2. Where did I say that all GOP is racist? I said that the base (which for the past 10 years has gone even more towards the right) will not vote for a minority nationally. I base that on what I've seen of Tea Party protests where, while some criticism of Obama was valid, a lot of it was based on racism.

Here's an example... if the GOP really was beyond race then they wouldn't want to deport an illegal brown girl that lived in the US since she was 2 and graduated HS among the top of the class... those are the people we should welcome to our country. But since she's brown she's not wanted here. Anchor babies? That wasn't a problem till achor babies were brown. Immigrants taking jobs? Not a problem unless they are brown. Terrorists? Not a problem unless they are brown - look at the stink they raised when Secret Service (or FBI/CIA) released that report saying that the biggest problem in US regarding terrorism is right wing white militias.

I actually want a GOP that isn't retarded because that would be good for the US. If we had 2 parties that had the goal to help Americans (all americans not only the top 1% or the bottom 50% or whatever) then I'd be all for the loser of the national election to be the VP. That would bring balance to the White House.

Thanks for making my point. Blanket statements just turn off individuals. If you fail to see down to an individual level, you brand your message poorly and can't appeal to sensible voters of the party that you oppose.

ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: bluelancer03: ddam: Mugato: .

1) Google image search her. She's effectively white. Hispanic last name. Vast "latina" appeal.

One more issue with this idiotic statement of yours. You're claiming that the GOP base is in no way racist while saying that besides her hispanic last name she's effectively white? What kind of thinking process do you use to come up with that idea?

It's a responsive argument to your first implication. You assumed her appearance was more hispanic because of her last name. I am pointing out that she isn't "brown" (to use your words) and that regardless, she appeals to both hispanic and conservative voters in her state.

Does it bother you when the people you have branded racist can see past a person's appearance or cultural heritage to the ideals that they espouse?

It's not the apearance alone that I'm talking about. Look at how the GOP attacked Sonya Sotomajor for her enthic background. She looks as latin as Governor Martinez and that didn't stop the GOP from attacking her.

What individual level are you speaking of? GOP members of Senate and House as well as the local level in my state vote the same way 99% of the time. What's so individualistic about that? Add to that the fact that any time a GOP politicial doesn't toe the party line they are labled as "RINO" and discarded you can see where I'm coming from. Additionally, the GOP base (now called Tea Party) have made it a point to draw attention to Obama's muslim name or color at every oportunity.

And you're talking about what is successful in a state with a very large hispanic population and trying to apply that to a national race and it just doesn't work that way.