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2011-10-20 03:29:20 AM
While it seems like Hakuho isn't making very much, you have to also consider the under the table payments he's getting from the Yakuza to get a better idea of how much he's actually pulling in. That's probably dried up a lot in the past couple years since a bunch of wrestlers got caught selling wins.

Also, like the POTUS, he doesn't have very many expenses that he himself needs to pay. He's either comped or has handlers who take care of all the bills (see Yakuza above). So that 400K, once he's paid the taxes, is all his and goes straight into savings and investments.
 
2011-10-20 06:22:18 AM
The headline seems to be implying that since these sports are "obscure", it's easy to dominate them.

lol
 
2011-10-20 06:52:54 AM
Given how much bowling is on TV compared to some of the other sports on this list (like Triathalon), I expected the top-earning pro bowler to be pulling down at least a quarter million, but probably something more along the lines of half a million.

Bowling, at least competitive league bowling, is a dying sport. That's why the salaries are so low these days. Used to be a regular pro bowler could pull down a decent living just cashing in tournaments. Not to mention winning a big tournament could sustain you for an entire year. First place in 1982 at the Firestone Tournament of Champions was $40,000. This past year the entire prize fund for the TOC was just $50,000. Most bowlers now have to have other activities on the side just to make ends meet.
 
2011-10-20 07:00:01 AM
I'd guess that a lot of these "high" salaries get eaten up in administrative expenses. I bet these guys pay their own travel and meals on the road.
 
2011-10-20 07:34:38 AM
www.totalprosports.com

I JUST SHAT A PERSON!

/caption contest, anyone?
 
2011-10-20 07:41:31 AM
Not surprised at all about Kelly Slater. He is quite probably the most dominant athlete in any sport of all time. Managing to stay on top for almost 20 years in a sport filled with people half his age really says something
 
2011-10-20 08:08:41 AM
Men play beach volleyball? That kind of seems to defeat the whole purpose.
 
2011-10-20 08:25:59 AM
Phil Taylor - Darts - $1,044,000. Wow.
 
2011-10-20 08:32:23 AM
Those sports were obscure?
 
2011-10-20 08:40:19 AM
SurfaceTension: Bowling, at least competitive league bowling, is a dying sport. That's why the salaries are so low these days. Used to be a regular pro bowler could pull down a decent living just cashing in tournaments. Not to mention winning a big tournament could sustain you for an entire year. First place in 1982 at the Firestone Tournament of Champions was $40,000. This past year the entire prize fund for the TOC was just $50,000. Most bowlers now have to have other activities on the side just to make ends meet.

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Agrees.

Also, yeah - how are any of these sports obscure? Obscure would be Buzkashi.
 
2011-10-20 08:40:52 AM
FTA: Then again, all the competitions take place in Alaska and northern Canada, so the travel expenses would be relatively low

what? does it really have to be explained?
 
2011-10-20 08:44:12 AM
I had no idea Darts paid so well.
 
2011-10-20 08:54:58 AM
I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.
 
2011-10-20 08:57:07 AM
I would have guessed a lot more for bowling. But I can see what's happening -- kids today with that type of skill all seem to be going into bocce. It's where all the girls and money are.
 
2011-10-20 08:57:25 AM
Earguy: I'd guess that a lot of these "high" salaries get eaten up in administrative expenses. I bet these guys pay their own travel and meals on the road.

Well, you know, most people have to pay for their own meals at home too... just saying.
 
2011-10-20 08:58:52 AM
And the billiards guy probably doubles that easily from cash games. That is a gambling man's sport right there.
 
2011-10-20 09:03:03 AM
SharkTrager: Those sports were obscure?

I guess "obscure" in that it isn't the top TV draws in the U.S. And some are "obscure" in that people don't think about them having a "pro" circuit (ie... Raquetball isn't obscure, but, "pro raquetball" is).

But, they could have probably found a few more. My guess is top world Table Tennis players can make a good living in Asia. Even something like sepak takraw probably pays well in the countries where it is a top sport.
 
2011-10-20 09:04:34 AM
drewogatory: And the billiards guy probably doubles that easily from cash games. That is a gambling man's sport right there.

True... billiards is basically like poker... if you are truly good you are probably making 10x more in side wager games than "pro events". Basically any of those "bar games" like pool, darts, fall into that.
 
2011-10-20 09:11:12 AM
xanadian: [www.totalprosports.com image 500x380]

I JUST SHAT A PERSON!

/caption contest, anyone?


get in my belly?


got nuttin
 
2011-10-20 09:16:40 AM
swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.
 
2011-10-20 09:22:57 AM
www.totalprosports.com

*poot*
 
2011-10-20 09:23:54 AM
mynameisdouglas: swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.


You don't play squash to get rich. You play squash to meet rich women.

/No mention how much that player makes from his "female sponsors."
 
2011-10-20 09:25:34 AM
dletter: drewogatory: And the billiards guy probably doubles that easily from cash games. That is a gambling man's sport right there.

True... billiards is basically like poker... if you are truly good you are probably making 10x more in side wager games than "pro events". Basically any of those "bar games" like pool, darts, fall into that.


You think so? If this guy is the best he'd have to lay odds for cash games, right? Between the pros it's a zero sum game anyway. somebody's got to lose for someone to win. Maybe if amateurs are willing to give away money to take a shot at him I could see him supplementing his income.

ChrisDe: I would have guessed a lot more for bowling. But I can see what's happening -- kids today with that type of skill all seem to be going into bocce. It's where all the girls and money are.

Yeah, citation please on that one. Seems way too low.

Here's a list from PBA.com. I don't know how pro bowling works, but it appears to be total earnings from last season. Higher than the article, but still lower than I would've thought.
Link (new window)
 
2011-10-20 09:26:07 AM
I have a friend from undergrad who pulls down close to six-figures for kayaking, not including everything he gets from sponsors - gear, food, trips, and - I shiat you not - they bought him a husky he takes to competitions.

There are very few things that someone, somewhere, doesn't want their name slapped on.

/csb
 
2011-10-20 09:26:18 AM
mynameisdouglas: swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.


Sure, $167k is nice, but it's not darts rich.
 
2011-10-20 09:29:04 AM
mynameisdouglas: swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.


Well, ignoring whether 167k is "rich" or not (it is certainly very very well off)... my guess is that you can't count on making $167k year in/year out on the "Squash tour", both on staying at the top of the sport consistently... and depending on that whatever is funding those event prize values will stay at the level they are. Also, as others have pointed out... unlike other sports, my guess is, other than if he has sponsors that are paying for it... all of the travel expenses involved to go to these events (hotel, airfare, etc) comes out of that and isn't something you'd otherwise spend money on... although, my guess is the Squash tournament events are in nice vacation locales and not Cleveland and Topeka, so, there is that.
 
2011-10-20 09:41:50 AM
Somehow I think Walter Ray Williams makes more per year than 123K....bowling still is on TV every week, and they still get sponsorship deals.
 
2011-10-20 09:48:37 AM
UCFRoadWarrior: Somehow I think Walter Ray Williams makes more per year than 123K....bowling still is on TV every week, and they still get sponsorship deals.

True... also, you have to wonder if they keep their eyes out for "smaller" cash-ins when they are in a metro area.... ie, they are in Cleveland for some ESPN tournament for the week.. but they see that some local bowling alley is having some sort of tournament on an off-night of the tournament in town with a top prize of $500... would a pro go try to "blitz" the locals in that tournament, I mean, they should be heavily favored... and $500 is still pretty good for a few hours work.
 
2011-10-20 09:49:42 AM
dletter: mynameisdouglas: swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.

Well, ignoring whether 167k is "rich" or not (it is certainly very very well off)... my guess is that you can't count on making $167k year in/year out on the "Squash tour", both on staying at the top of the sport consistently... and depending on that whatever is funding those event prize values will stay at the level they are. Also, as others have pointed out... unlike other sports, my guess is, other than if he has sponsors that are paying for it... all of the travel expenses involved to go to these events (hotel, airfare, etc) comes out of that and isn't something you'd otherwise spend money on... although, my guess is the Squash tournament events are in nice vacation locales and not Cleveland and Topeka, so, there is that.


Yes, I wasn't ignoring any of the above, but just mentioning that the author seems to poo-poo the $167,000. Its not chump change.
 
2011-10-20 09:51:31 AM
Debeo Summa Credo: dletter: drewogatory: And the billiards guy probably doubles that easily from cash games. That is a gambling man's sport right there.

True... billiards is basically like poker... if you are truly good you are probably making 10x more in side wager games than "pro events". Basically any of those "bar games" like pool, darts, fall into that.

You think so? If this guy is the best he'd have to lay odds for cash games, right? Between the pros it's a zero sum game anyway. somebody's got to lose for someone to win. Maybe if amateurs are willing to give away money to take a shot at him I could see him supplementing his income.


Not saying he does this, but if the number one billiards player in the world walked into a bar and wanted to play people, do you honestly think he would be recognized?
 
2011-10-20 09:52:03 AM
12,11,9,7,8,4,3,2,1 = not sports

sports pit man DIRECTLY vs man..one has an objective, the other is attempting to stop that man from his objective. That's my take.

Still nice money though
 
2011-10-20 09:54:12 AM
This is a late parrot: I had no idea Darts paid so well.

If you're the 15-time world champion, get to the final of every major tournament and are effectively the "face" of the sport, then it does pay well.

If you are anyone else, it's budget hotels and low-cost airlines for you.
 
2011-10-20 10:01:53 AM
Earguy: I'd guess that a lot of these "high" salaries get eaten up in administrative expenses. I bet these guys pay their own travel and meals on the road.

Some do, some don't.

For example, sumo wrestlers...they are like rock stars. With the best ones being waited on hand and foot...and the new sumo wrestlers have to do all this biatch work for the top wrestlers.

Rodeo guys....(IIRC) have to fund/do everything themselves. Some of them may get sponsored....but it's on themselves to arrange travel from location to location, feed/care for their horses; there is no health insurance, no guaranteed paycheck
 
2011-10-20 10:03:12 AM
dletter: True... also, you have to wonder if they keep their eyes out for "smaller" cash-ins when they are in a metro area.... ie, they are in Cleveland for some ESPN tournament for the week.. but they see that some local bowling alley is having some sort of tournament on an off-night of the tournament in town with a top prize of $500... would a pro go try to "blitz" the locals in that tournament, I mean, they should be heavily favored... and $500 is still pretty good for a few hours work.

There are very few tournaments like that that happen during the week. I don't know of any at all, actually. And I'm on the look out for them regularly. Besides, most tournaments that small would probably bar professionals outright.

Believe it or not, you can do better as an amateur. There are some high-roller tournaments with funds as big as $30-40,000 that go off pretty regularly. Brian Kretzer made a living off those for years. But again, they bar professionals with titles, so Kretzer, who won his first title in 2010 will, at least for awhile, be unable to compete in those.

Also, there are side games in bowling. Brackets, high game pots, survivor boards, and so on. There is also pot bowling where a bunch of bowlers get together and put in a certain amount into a pot (I've done it at $5/man before...pros probably do $100 a man or something) and then bowl a game and the winner takes all.
 
2011-10-20 10:04:34 AM
#'s 6 & 7
(they call the thing) Rodeo (new window)

Also,
"Competitive eating isn't a sport, it's one of the seven deadly sins!"
Bill Maher
 
2011-10-20 10:15:17 AM
mynameisdouglas: swahnhennessy: I didn't know that "prize money" was mistaken for "salary" by people.

Yes. Stupid.

Plus whoever wrote this: "You can't count of squash to make you rich. So I guess you'd better be playing for the love of the game." The top earner made $167,000. Sounds rich to me.


It isn't.
 
2011-10-20 10:22:02 AM
The article fails at mentioning Polo players, who can make up to $150,000 a game (Many earn middle road 6-income salaries).
 
2011-10-20 10:23:38 AM
tdyak: The article fails at mentioning Polo players, who can make up to $150,000 a game (Many earn middle road 6-income salaries).

I think (right or wrong) most people have the image that Polo is played by rich people anyway, so, I don't think that would be as surprising.
 
2011-10-20 10:26:42 AM
Sybarite: Men play beach volleyball? That kind of seems to defeat the whole purpose.

FTFY
 
2011-10-20 10:27:08 AM
Cracked could learn a lot from this article.

Also, aren't rodeo and bull-riding the same thing?

/I know, I know - ask your mother
 
2011-10-20 10:28:22 AM
FTA: "Phillip Dalhausser/Tedd Rogers"

Tedd Rogers? Seriously? My handle may show my bias, but it's Todd and they won a gold medal in Beijing fer chrissakes. They also managed to pull that last year with the AVP going under mid season.

csb: I got to play them in a Red Bull event a couple of years ago in Dallas and Phil is just a freak of nature.
 
2011-10-20 10:28:35 AM
pizen: Sure, $167k is nice, but it's not darts rich.

I LOLd
 
2011-10-20 10:29:24 AM
Dr.Knockboots: 12,11,9,7,8,4,3,2,1 = not sports

sports pit man DIRECTLY vs man..one has an objective, the other is attempting to stop that man from his objective. That's my take.

Still nice money though


I bowl leagues myself and agree #4 it isnt a sport.
 
2011-10-20 10:30:26 AM
I thought squash and raquetball were the same thing.

What is the difference?
 
2011-10-20 10:32:18 AM
Big Beef Burrito: I thought squash and raquetball were the same thing.

What is the difference?

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-20 10:32:24 AM
Big Beef Burrito: I thought squash and raquetball were the same thing.

What is the difference?


Different racquets and court and balls, I think. Maybe other differences.

Different McEnroe wristbands?
 
2011-10-20 10:33:58 AM
dletter: Big Beef Burrito: I thought squash and raquetball were the same thing.

What is the difference?
Link (new window)


Oh, and Harvard professors don't play racquetball.
 
2011-10-20 10:34:18 AM
www.totalprosports.com
"Damn HMO proctologists."
 
2011-10-20 10:35:45 AM
You guys are forgetting the extreme wear and tear a sport like darts can put on the body. These athletes can expect a 40 to 50 year career, max, after which they are ill equipped to transition to a new career in the business sector. Of COURSE they warrant a high salary. How else could they survive after darts!?
 
2011-10-20 10:36:17 AM
"Ooooo, that tickles."
 
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