This note is legaol tender for all debts, public and private, unless you're at a thrift store in Louisiana.

What the fark? I spent like a week reading up on a bunch of the new laws (like I do every year) and I'd never heard of this one. This is farking stupid. My disabled mother sells $1000+ worth of shiat every few months in yard sales and everything is done with cash. If some redneck motherfarker tries to stop that I will be arrested for assaulting a police officer >:(

Nadie_AZ: This includes yard sales, bake sales, etc.

Why are they doing this? Beyond the bullshiat reason given.

To control people, and have a record of every transaction wherever possible to use against them.

Which is going to make life hard on the poor who are expected to buy all of their food and goods used in order to minimize the impact of Cain's 999 plan.

RIF

You know who busy second hand goods? Poor people. You know who pays with cash? Poor people. Why does Louisiana hate poor people?

brigid_fitch: Hamstringing the sale of second-hand goods means more people have to buy retail, therefore lining WalMart's pockets & guaranteeing more of their donations?

IIRC even WalMart sells some second-hand stuff. This is a law guaranteed to die a quick death in the courts.

Guidry says, "I think everyone in this business once they find out about it. They're will definitely be a lot of uproar."

Screeeeeech... what?

Good thing I only buy new drugs.

Farking unbelievable. As far as I am concerned, you'd be well within your constitutional rights to shoot someone for attempting to enforce this law.

White Rose Duelist: This note is legaol tender for all debts, public and private, unless you're at a thrift store in Louisiana.

I don't even know how this law will stand up. Can a state supersede federal jurisdiction on money issues?

This law will never hold up.

brigid_fitch: Nadie_AZ: This includes yard sales, bake sales, etc.

Why are they doing this? Beyond the bullshiat reason given.

A legislator owns a credit card machine company? LA's upset they're not getting enough tax money from garage sales & this is a way to track it? Hamstringing the sale of second-hand goods means more people have to buy retail, therefore lining WalMart's pockets & guaranteeing more of their donations?

And that's just off the top of my head.

Pawn shops are exempt from the bill, so I bet they had a hand in it as well.

Good luck enforcing that.

I have a feeling this is going to be thrown out by the courts. The bad part is that it's going to put a lot of people out of work before that happens.

A law this stupid can't last.

/optimist

redmid17: White Rose Duelist: This note is legaol tender for all debts, public and private, unless you're at a thrift store in Louisiana.

I don't even know how this law will stand up. Can a state supersede federal jurisdiction on money issues?

Nope. Check back for the Treasury Department bringing down the hammer within a few weeks.

/and the complaining about "big government overstepping its bounds" not long after

But the state is not getting its share from yard sale transactions!
Think of the children.

Dr. Quasius: You know who busy second hand goods? Poor people. You know who pays with cash? Poor people. Why does Louisiana hate poor people?

Louisiana has far too many poor people. They're trying to clear them out to make room for some rich people, obviously.

This might be the dumbest thing I've heard all day and I just left the Politics tab.

Smart barterers will just start trading in something non-cash, such as moonshine, bottlecaps, or ammunition if they aren't already.

Harv72b: I'll be sure to write little Suzy a check for 25 cents when I patronize her lemonade stand.

Good god man. Don't ever drink second hand lemonade.

go read Rev. 13:17 and you'll see exactly why they're doing this, you bunch of pagans.

Dr. Quasius: You know who busy second hand goods? Poor people. You know who pays with cash? Poor people. Why does Louisiana hate poor people?

Becuz socialism

brigid_fitch: Nadie_AZ: This includes yard sales, bake sales, etc.

Why are they doing this? Beyond the bullshiat reason given.

A legislator owns a credit card machine company? LA's upset they're not getting enough tax money from garage sales & this is a way to track it? Hamstringing the sale of second-hand goods means more people have to buy retail, therefore lining WalMart's pockets & guaranteeing more of their donations?

And that's just off the top of my head.

Naw, it's being done for the reasons stated in the article: It's too hard to apprehend criminals who buy or sell stolen goods, and this forces a paper trail which is easier to follow.

It's like forcing everyone to be fingerprinted, to ensure that when they need to catch the bad guy, they'll have an easier time of it. They just want to make sure everyone leaves electronic fingerprints.

What about that whole double taxation thing? Doesn't this violate that somehow?

Thomas Jefferson frowns on these shenanigans. Cash for Louisiana was good enough for Napoleon.

Harv72b: I'll be sure to write little Suzy a check for 25 cents when I patronize her lemonade stand.

And she damned well better have her business licenses and health inspections in order!

Harv72b: I'll be sure to write little Suzy a check for 25 cents when I patronize her lemonade stand.

Ga. police shut down girls' lemonade stand
(AP) MIDWAY, Ga. - Police in Georgia have shut down a lemonade stand run by three girls trying to save up for a trip to a water park, saying they didn't have a business license or the required permits.
The girls needed a business license, peddler's permit and food permit to operate, even on residential property.
The permits cost $50 a day or $180 per year.

NEDM: redmid17: White Rose Duelist: This note is legaol tender for all debts, public and private, unless you're at a thrift store in Louisiana.

I don't even know how this law will stand up. Can a state supersede federal jurisdiction on money issues?

Nope. Check back for the Treasury Department bringing down the hammer within a few weeks.

/and the complaining about "big government overstepping its bounds" not long after

Didn't think it would. This reminds me of the LA trying to ban rave music: ""We found out later on that, Constitutionally, you can not ban a type of music," said Ma. "Plus, I, like my opponents said, I didn't really know what was going on."

I know that link was on Fark last week. Jesus, do people even think of this shiat before they vote on it?

I would start selling new items(say a pack of gum.) for $x (x = value of the second hand item )and giving away the second hand item free with the purchase of the new item.

scarmig: Smart barterers will just start trading in something non-cash, such as moonshine, bottlecaps, or ammunition if they aren't already.

Tattered hats and beard dirt.

Hardy says the bill is targeted at criminals who steal anything from copper to televisions, and sell them for a quick buck. Having a paper trail will make it easier for law enforcement.

This is a good idea. It is for our own good and our protection. To sacrifice our liberties and freedoms for inklings of security to advance the greater will of the state is a most glorious and virtuous cause. Everyone in Louisiana (and eventually the rest of the country) must accept this without question whatsoever.

Hardy says the bill is targeted at criminals who steal anything from copper to televisions, and sell them for a quick buck. Having a paper trail will make it easier for law enforcement.

"It's a mechanism to be used so the police department has something to go on and have a lead," explains Hardy.

Anything to help the police.

"Outlaw cash transactions to make your job easier? Yeah, let's do it!"

We'll see how the courts feel about this. I hope to god they uphold our right to use cash to purchase goods, or we will see a tidal wave of legislation aimed at restricting or eliminating cash.

Why do I think this will happen, because this issue aligns many of the most powerful organizations in our country (namely: IRS, Law Enforcement, Banks).

So the idea behind this law was that criminals were selling stolen items for cash and requiring a paper trail would help catch those criminals... If that is indeed the reason, why not mandate stores to keep track of purchases made in cash like pawn shops have been required for years? Better yet, why not make a law that requires the store to also take a picture of the seller and add it to the records.

There are a lot of stupid laws at federal level but at state and local level stupid laws multiply like bunnies.

First they came for the second-hand cash transactions.....

I get the distinct feeling there are a great deal of "R"s next to the politicians names there.

Saxaholic: Pawn shops are exempt from the bill, so I bet they had a hand in it as well.

Which makes absolutely no sense if they are trying to track stolen goods, because that is where people go to sell stolen goods.