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2011-10-19 02:13:03 PM
Those extremist delinquents really got his goat
 
2011-10-19 02:31:25 PM
I guess the little goat got ... kidnapped.

Yeahhhhhhh
 
2011-10-19 02:33:46 PM
How in the world can Switzerlands immigration situation be considered "out of control" by the far right party? It's hard as *hell* to get citizenship there.

Is it kind like how far right Americans think illegal immigration is the hugest problem ever, but realistically it's negative effects are fairly small and mostly outweighed by the positive? ..but apparently we just gotta hate the brown people looking for a better life anyhow.
 
2011-10-19 02:34:11 PM
SVP: But Anti-Fascist Action is already on probation!
Dean: They are? Well, as of this moment, they're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!
 
2011-10-19 02:34:30 PM
This was just a harmless prank. They were only KIDding.
 
2011-10-19 02:35:47 PM
Racism=BAD
Kidnapping and animal cruelty=FUNNY
 
2011-10-19 02:40:11 PM
As an American expat in Switzerland, the SVP are douchebags.

Here's an example of some of the ads they run in train stations and the like:
i53.tinypic.com

Yes, I get that the country is relatively small, and has a population less than that of New York City. Yes, I understand that there's a great deal of culture here, and that a massive influx of outsiders can have significant cultural changes...but these ads seem downright hostile to a foreigner like myself. Evidently a lot of Swiss agree, as a lot of the SVP billboards that are in such passages have been vandalized to say things like "Massenxenophobie stoppen!" I'm can't support vandalism, but I don't really feel all that bad.

Personally, I'm not here to steal their jerbs or anything. I'm just here because they have a damn good graduate program in experimental physics, plus my wife and I thought it'd be fun to live outside the US for a while. We're trying to learn the language, fit in, and not cause trouble, yet the SVP still comes across as hostile to outsiders.

/Swiss Fark Party?
 
2011-10-19 02:44:20 PM
Sock Ruh Tease: I guess the little goat got ... kidnapped.

Yeahhhhhhh


You bastard, I wanted to say that.
 
2011-10-19 02:45:09 PM
Ahh, Switzerland. Even your racism is cute and tourist-friendly.
 
2011-10-19 02:46:32 PM
heypete: As an American expat in Switzerland, the SVP are douchebags.

Here's an example of some of the ads they run in train stations and the like:


So, I'd probably be shiat-kicked if I'm at the wrong place, then?.

/Not that I want an ass-kicking
//But, I'm latino, so there
 
2011-10-19 02:51:05 PM
kellylowenstein.files.wordpress.com

/seemed appropriate
 
2011-10-19 02:54:38 PM
CygnusDarius: So, I'd probably be shiat-kicked if I'm at the wrong place, then?

I don't think it's so much that individuals (or even the police or anything like that) resent foreigners to any significant degree (at least not as far as I've seen, but I've only been here a few months and everyone is quite pleasant and friendly), it's just that the immigrations policies in Switzerland are extremely strict, but some people think they're not strict enough.

It's somewhat amusing, as Switzerland signed a bilateral freedom-of-movement treaty with the EU, so EU nationals can come to settle and work in Switzerland with only the most minor of paperwork (e.g. a city-issued residence permit, no visas or anything like that). Naturally, the same is true in reverse. If they didn't want more immigration, why did they sign the treaty? They also take in a relatively large amount of refugees which, while admirable, is likely a reason for the opposition to immigration.

For non-EU nationals like myself, it was quite a bit more of a hassle (time-consuming, but straightforward) to get a visa.

As a foreigner here, I don't get to vote (not that I really care), but there's an election on the 23rd, so all sorts of political ads are plastered everywhere in Bern for all the various candidates. I look forward to when it's all done.

/not a big fan of politics
 
2011-10-19 02:55:27 PM
Obviously the SVP are racist jerks but why take it out on the poor goats?

One of my greatx2 grandfathers was Swiss (I have his Swiss citizenship doc that has him born in Basel) but he was the Jr. Consul from Austria-Hungary to New Orleans. He married a Creole Belle but he did disown his oldest daughter (my great-grandmother) when she eloped with an "Irishman" (my great-grandfather, who was born in the U.S., whose family had money, and was 1/2 German on his mother's side but not good enough for Herr Hindermann).
 
2011-10-19 03:04:11 PM
Inappropriate use of the Sappy tag?...
 
2011-10-19 03:05:03 PM
"They had been tied to a tree and smeared with black paint by 'extremist delinquents', they said."

Despite being racist jaggoffs, those are some pretty goddamn talented goats.
 
2011-10-19 03:10:44 PM
fritton: Is it kind like how far right Americans think illegal immigration is the hugest problem ever, but realistically it's negative effects are fairly small and mostly outweighed by the positive? ..but apparently we just gotta hate the brown people looking for a better life anyhow

BS.

When you have lots of unemployed people more cheap labor coming intot he country is terrible for the economy.

And that isn't even getting into the extrodinarily high crime rate among illegal immigrants, loss of tax revenue, and money sent out of the country.
 
2011-10-19 03:11:55 PM
Has the rape kit for the goat come back yet?
 
2011-10-19 03:16:45 PM
ashinmytomatoes: Obviously the SVP are racist jerks but why take it out on the poor goats?

One of my greatx2 grandfathers was Swiss (I have his Swiss citizenship doc that has him born in Basel) but he was the Jr. Consul from Austria-Hungary to New Orleans. He married a Creole Belle but he did disown his oldest daughter (my great-grandmother) when she eloped with an "Irishman" (my great-grandfather, who was born in the U.S., whose family had money, and was 1/2 German on his mother's side but not good enough for Herr Hindermann).


t2.gstatic.com
 
2011-10-19 03:20:16 PM
Dead for Tax Reasons: Those extremist delinquents really got his goat

Came in to say this. What the hell is an extremist delinquent?
 
2011-10-19 03:25:18 PM
IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

It is not a condemnation of another culture if you don't want it applied to you. People like what's familiar to them, and should not be condemned as racists just because they don't want change.

Why is it that us blue eyed devils are roundly condemned for "Colonialism", imposing "our" ways (ya know, things like rule of law, democracy, electricity, etc.) on the noble natives, yet we're expected to roll over and welcome in the third world masses and their dysfunctional cultures (Mexico is a shiathole because of their dysfunctional civic culture, not because of ethnicity or lack of natural resources).

Is it some weird form of penance? Our forefathers invaded the less developed countries, so now we have to let them swarm into our countries as a form of payback for what our forefathers did? We're supposed to load up our countries with uncontrllled immigration until we're overpopulated and trashed out like the rest of the third world?

You Farkers have such a hate Daddy/hate Authority compulsion going on that you want "the establishment" to be torn down because they have power, and you weiners don't have power, so you feel inadequate. And you want to ease those feelings of inadequacy by striking back at those who make you feel so very small. And that's enough reason for you to support wrecking our competent and successful western culture, just to spite the the establishment. Not because you offer a better way of doing things. You're little more than vandals. Supporting mass immigration is your way at getting back at the establishment.

Labor UK was actually caught admitting just the same thing. They wanted to dilute British culture, and purposely introduced mass migration into the UK to change the cultural/political makeup of the country. All because they HATED the Toffs or very,very much. And wanted to reduce their power. Now they have to cope with the increasing crime and violence brought by that influx.

And you assholes want to do the very same to the US.

The Swiss are a smaller country, and they will do a far better job of protecting themselves.

/like that third world culture? Go move there!
 
2011-10-19 03:27:02 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

It is not a condemnation of another culture if you don't want it applied to you. People like what's familiar to them, and should not be condemned as racists just because they don't want change.

Why is it that us blue eyed devils are roundly condemned for "Colonialism", imposing "our" ways (ya know, things like rule of law, democracy, electricity, etc.) on the noble natives, yet we're expected to roll over and welcome in the third world masses and their dysfunctional cultures (Mexico is a shiathole because of their dysfunctional civic culture, not because of ethnicity or lack of natural resources).

Is it some weird form of penance? Our forefathers invaded the less developed countries, so now we have to let them swarm into our countries as a form of payback for what our forefathers did? We're supposed to load up our countries with uncontrllled immigration until we're overpopulated and trashed out like the rest of the third world?

You Farkers have such a hate Daddy/hate Authority compulsion going on that you want "the establishment" to be torn down because they have power, and you weiners don't have power, so you feel inadequate. And you want to ease those feelings of inadequacy by striking back at those who make you feel so very small. And that's enough reason for you to support wrecking our competent and successful western culture, just to spite the the establishment. Not because you offer a better way of doing things. You're little more than vandals. Supporting mass immigration is your way at getting back at the establishment.

Labor UK was actually caught admitting just the same thing. They wanted to dilute British culture, and purposely introduced mass migration into the UK to change the cultural/political makeup of the country. All because they HATED the Toffs or very,very much. And wanted to reduce their power. Now they have to cope with the increasing crime and violence brought by that influx.

And you assholes want to do the very same to the US.

The Swiss are a smaller country, and they will do a far better job of protecting themselves.

/like that third world culture? Go move there!


You mad bro?
 
2011-10-19 03:43:32 PM
fritton: How in the world can Switzerlands immigration situation be considered "out of control" by the far right party? It's hard as *hell* to get citizenship there.

Is it kind like how far right Americans think illegal immigration is the hugest problem ever, but realistically it's negative effects are fairly small and mostly outweighed by the positive? ..but apparently we just gotta hate the brown people looking for a better life anyhow.




do you remember the late 90's? when people would leave a job 3 months in for a job that paid 15% better and offered more benefits?
that's a tight labor market.
that's what the corporations do not want above all else.
but keep doing everything you can to dilute the labor market, especially that of the low skilled Americans. the people that can't train for a new job. keep pumping the corporatist bullshiat, you f*cking jackass.

The Nation
NYTimes
Week in Review
Immigrants and the Economics of Hard Work
Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

http://cafehayek.com/2006/04/the_impact_of_i.html (new window)

graphics8.nytimes.com

JOBS LOST AND FOUND At California construction sites like this one, well-paid work that used to go to native-born Americans is going to lower-paid immigrants.

By JOHN M. BRODER
Published: April 2, 2006

LOS ANGELES

IT is asserted both as fact and as argument: the United States needs a constant flow of immigrants to perform jobs Americans will not stoop to do.

But what if those jobs paid $50 an hour, with benefits, instead of $7 or $10 or $15?

"Of course there are jobs that few Americans will take because the wages and working conditions have been so degraded by employers," said Jared Bernstein, of the liberal Economic Policy Institute. "But there is nothing about landscaping, food processing, meat cutting or construction that would preclude someone from doing these jobs on the basis of their nativity. Nothing would keep anyone, immigrant or native born, from doing them if they paid better, if they had health care."

The most comprehensive recent study of immigrant workers comes from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that, unlike Mr. Bernstein's, advocates stricter controls on immigration. The study, by the center's research director, Steven A. Camarota, found that immigrants are a majority of workers in only 4 of 473 job classifications - stucco masons, tailors, produce sorters and beauty salon workers. But even in those four job categories, native-born workers account for more than 40 percent of the work force.

While it might be a challenge to find an American-born cab driver in New York or parking lot attendant in Phoenix or grape cutter in the San Joaquin Valley of California, according to Mr. Camarota's study of census data from 2000-2005, 59 percent of cab drivers in the United States are native born, as are 66 percent of all valet parkers. Half of all workers in agriculture were born in this country.

"The idea that there are jobs that Americans won't do is economic gibberish," Mr. Camarota said. "All the big occupations that immigrants are in - construction, janitorial, even agriculture - are overwhelmingly done by native Americans."

But where they compete for jobs, he said, the immigrants have driven up the jobless rate for some Americans. According to his study, published in March, unemployment among the native born with less than a high school education was 14.3 percent in 2005; the figure for the immigrant population was 7.4 percent.

While Mr. Bernstein would agree that the least-educated American workers are at a disadvantage, he does not favor curbs on immigration. Even the least-skilled Americans benefit from the presence of a large pool of immigrant workers, Mr. Bernstein said. He said that the 11 million illegal immigrants are consumers, too, creating demand for goods and services and the jobs they produce. He also said their willingness to work at low wages helps keep inflation in check, benefiting the nation as a whole. (yes, the old omg, tight labor market will create inflation cry from businesses. thanks for checking inflation, but I'd rather have a job, thanks.)

"It's quite clear that immigrants lead to lower prices of goods and services, and the lower inflation helps boost the economy, and that helps all Americans," Mr. Bernstein said. "You have a significant increase in the labor supply due to immigrant inflows, yet the wage effects seem isolated among the least educated, and they're not huge."

But George J. Borjas, a professor of economics and social policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, said he believed that the flow of migrants had significantly depressed wages for Americans in virtually all job categories and income levels. His study found that the average annual wage loss for all American male workers from 1980 to 2000 was $1,200, or 4 percent, and nearly twice that, in percentage terms, for those without a high school diploma. The impact was also disproportionately high on African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans, Professor Borjas found.


"What this is, is a huge redistribution of wealth away from workers who compete with immigrants to those who employ them," he said.


cafehayek.com


http://hothardware.com/News/Study-H1B-Visas-Lower-US-Programmer-Pay/

Study: H1B Visas Lower US Programmer Pay
Monday, April 20, 2009 - by Michael Santo
Globalization is wonderful, and does no harm anywhere, that's what we've been told. But a new study, titled "H-1B Visas, Offshoring, and the Wages of US Information Technology Workers" by Prasanna B. Tambe of New York University - Stern School of Business and Lorin M. Hitt of University of Pennsylvania - The Wharton School aims to dispel "the myth that globalization generates no losers," the authors state.

The study's abstract states (emphasis ours):

Our estimates indicate that H-1B admissions at the current levels are associated with a 5-6% drop in wages for computer programmers and systems analysts. Offshoring appears to lower the wages of a slightly broader class of IT workers, including IT managers, by about 3%. These effects are larger for employees exposed to external labor market forces, such as new graduates or job-hoppers.

...

To the best of our knowledge, the analysis in this paper is the first to provide evidence that H-1B employment and offshoring put downward pressure on the wages of US IT workers in some occupations.

The study's authors said they used public data, including data from a leading (but unnamed) careers site.

A draft of the 32-page paper was posted last week on the Social Science Research Network.
 
2011-10-19 03:49:13 PM
oh, you are a small business owner in los angeles. no wonder you are concerned with keeping the borders wide open and third world poor as shiat folks competing with americans and driving down wages. to enrich the melting pot, I'm sure. you had a hard time finding good mexican in LA. I should just go directly to the u.s. chamber of commerce website to get your response.
 
2011-10-19 03:56:39 PM
btw, who does inflation hurt (relatively speaking)? the people who hold the mortgages and the student loans. who does inflation help. the little guy who is in debt.
 
2011-10-19 03:56:50 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

It is not a condemnation of another culture if you don't want it applied to you. People like what's familiar to them, and should not be condemned as racists just because they don't want change.

Why is it that us blue eyed devils are roundly condemned for "Colonialism", imposing "our" ways (ya know, things like rule of law, democracy, electricity, etc.) on the noble natives, yet we're expected to roll over and welcome in the third world masses and their dysfunctional cultures (Mexico is a shiathole because of their dysfunctional civic culture, not because of ethnicity or lack of natural resources).

Is it some weird form of penance? Our forefathers invaded the less developed countries, so now we have to let them swarm into our countries as a form of payback for what our forefathers did? We're supposed to load up our countries with uncontrllled immigration until we're overpopulated and trashed out like the rest of the third world?

You Farkers have such a hate Daddy/hate Authority compulsion going on that you want "the establishment" to be torn down because they have power, and you weiners don't have power, so you feel inadequate. And you want to ease those feelings of inadequacy by striking back at those who make you feel so very small. And that's enough reason for you to support wrecking our competent and successful western culture, just to spite the the establishment. Not because you offer a better way of doing things. You're little more than vandals. Supporting mass immigration is your way at getting back at the establishment.

Labor UK was actually caught admitting just the same thing. They wanted to dilute British culture, and purposely introduced mass migration into the UK to change the cultural/political makeup of the country. All because they HATED the Toffs or very,very much. And wanted to reduce their power. Now they have to cope with the increasing crime and violence brought by that influx.

And you assholes want to do the very same to the US.

The Swiss are a smaller country, and they will do a far better job of protecting themselves.

/like that third world culture? Go move there!


Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing something like this. You said it better than I could. However I wouldn't expect anyone here to engage you in a meaningful debate over this. The cult of diversity is too firmly established here. There will just be comments like "y u hate brown ppl u mad lol" and they will move on. Ooops, too late. Skankboy's already got that covered.
 
2011-10-19 04:01:11 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

Wasn't there someone else so concerned about having "purity" of culture?
 
2011-10-19 04:09:02 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

Well, if I were you, I'd start with a crash course in not butchering the Queen's English.
 
2011-10-19 04:11:50 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

It is not a condemnation of another culture if you don't want it applied to you. People like what's familiar to them, and should not be condemned as racists just because they don't want change.

Why is it that us blue eyed devils are roundly condemned for "Colonialism", imposing "our" ways (ya know, things like rule of law, democracy, electricity, etc.) on the noble natives, yet we're expected to roll over and welcome in the third world masses and their dysfunctional cultures (Mexico is a shiathole because of their dysfunctional civic culture, not because of ethnicity or lack of natural resources).

Is it some weird form of penance? Our forefathers invaded the less developed countries, so now we have to let them swarm into our countries as a form of payback for what our forefathers did? We're supposed to load up our countries with uncontrllled immigration until we're overpopulated and trashed out like the rest of the third world?

You Farkers have such a hate Daddy/hate Authority compulsion going on that you want "the establishment" to be torn down because they have power, and you weiners don't have power, so you feel inadequate. And you want to ease those feelings of inadequacy by striking back at those who make you feel so very small. And that's enough reason for you to support wrecking our competent and successful western culture, just to spite the the establishment. Not because you offer a better way of doing things. You're little more than vandals. Supporting mass immigration is your way at getting back at the establishment.

Labor UK was actually caught admitting just the same thing. They wanted to dilute British culture, and purposely introduced mass migration into the UK to change the cultural/political makeup of the country. All because they HATED the Toffs or very,very much. And wanted to reduce their power. Now they have to cope with the increasing crime and violence brought by that influx.

And you assholes want to do the very same to the US.

The Swiss are a smaller country, and they will do a far better job of protecting themselves.

/like that third world culture? Go move there!




Perhaps you should move to Switzerland... Or France... Or Israel...

i13.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-19 04:12:14 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!


Are you offended by St. Patrick's Day then? Bloody lazy drunk papists.

www.yale.edu
"The Day We Celebrate" Thomas Nast
 
2011-10-19 04:12:47 PM
sainthelena.us

/first thing I thought of
//Zottel vs. Zlateh: Celebrity Deathmatch?
 
2011-10-19 04:36:29 PM
i.telegraph.co.uk
Colour me Black.
 
2011-10-19 04:48:23 PM
slc11082: Having lived in switzerland off and on my whole life I can say I fully support the svp. The amount if black Africans entering the country is shocking and there needs to be a stop to it before its too late.

parlourmagazine.com

You mad?
 
2011-10-19 05:02:27 PM
Tax Boy: slc11082: Having lived in switzerland off and on my whole life I can say I fully support the svp. The amount if black Africans entering the country is shocking and there needs to be a stop to it before its too late.


Are white Africans better?
 
2011-10-19 05:17:54 PM
STR:mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

Well, if I were you, I'd start with a crash course in not butchering the Queen's English.


OH NOES I MADE A TYPO!!!!! It invalidates EVERYTHING I wrote. Go smoke a turd...
 
2011-10-19 05:18:56 PM
mark12A: IT IS NOT RACIST TO WANT TOO KEEP YOUR OWN CULTURE!

It is not a condemnation of another culture if you don't want it applied to you. People like what's familiar to them, and should not be condemned as racists just because they don't want change.

Why is it that us blue eyed devils are roundly condemned for "Colonialism", imposing "our" ways (ya know, things like rule of law, democracy, electricity, etc.) on the noble natives, yet we're expected to roll over and welcome in the third world masses and their dysfunctional cultures (Mexico is a shiathole because of their dysfunctional civic culture, not because of ethnicity or lack of natural resources).

Is it some weird form of penance? Our forefathers invaded the less developed countries, so now we have to let them swarm into our countries as a form of payback for what our forefathers did? We're supposed to load up our countries with uncontrllled immigration until we're overpopulated and trashed out like the rest of the third world?

You Farkers have such a hate Daddy/hate Authority compulsion going on that you want "the establishment" to be torn down because they have power, and you weiners don't have power, so you feel inadequate. And you want to ease those feelings of inadequacy by striking back at those who make you feel so very small. And that's enough reason for you to support wrecking our competent and successful western culture, just to spite the the establishment. Not because you offer a better way of doing things. You're little more than vandals. Supporting mass immigration is your way at getting back at the establishment.

Labor UK was actually caught admitting just the same thing. They wanted to dilute British culture, and purposely introduced mass migration into the UK to change the cultural/political makeup of the country. All because they HATED the Toffs or very,very much. And wanted to reduce their power. Now they have to cope with the increasing crime and violence brought by that influx.

And you assholes want to do the very same to the US.

The Swiss are a smaller country, and they will do a far better job of protecting themselves.

/like that third world culture? Go move there!


This sounds familiar..where have I heard this sort of talk before??

Oh yeah...

i.huffpost.com
 
2011-10-19 05:39:42 PM
Cubicle Jockey: Are you offended by St. Patrick's Day then? Bloody lazy drunk papists.

The Irish may be drunks, but they bloody well aren't lazy. How many people do you know get blackout drunk and start a riot instead of just going to sleep??!!
 
2011-10-19 05:46:28 PM
heypete: As an American expat in Switzerland, the SVP are douchebags.

Here's an example of some of the ads they run in train stations and the like:
[i53.tinypic.com image 480x639]

Yes, I get that the country is relatively small, and has a population less than that of New York City. Yes, I understand that there's a great deal of culture here, and that a massive influx of outsiders can have significant cultural changes...but these ads seem downright hostile to a foreigner like myself. Evidently a lot of Swiss agree, as a lot of the SVP billboards that are in such passages have been vandalized to say things like "Massenxenophobie stoppen!" I'm can't support vandalism, but I don't really feel all that bad.

Personally, I'm not here to steal their jerbs or anything. I'm just here because they have a damn good graduate program in experimental physics, plus my wife and I thought it'd be fun to live outside the US for a while. We're trying to learn the language, fit in, and not cause trouble, yet the SVP still comes across as hostile to outsiders.

/Swiss Fark Party?


I'm living not far from Geneva along the lake. A Fark Party would be fun! Or contact me for any help you would need. I've been grown here so can give good tips :)
 
2011-10-19 05:54:20 PM
How does immigration cause a country to lose its culture? And I'm surprised Switzerland has a racial problem.
 
2011-10-19 06:09:18 PM
It's not racist to not want a whole pile of immigrants. It's more about culture. I personally couldn't care less if someone's skin color is black, but the African or Muslim culture is dangerous and can't be trusted. All about machismo, keeping women subservient, lying, cheating, and stealing (except from your clan), etc. If you move to a country, be willing to take on its language and culture, don't form a conclave and gradually take it over.
 
2011-10-19 06:12:21 PM
Poor goats :( Take it out on their owners.
 
2011-10-19 06:14:10 PM
j0ndas: It's not racist to not want a whole pile of immigrants. It's more about culture. I personally couldn't care less if someone's skin color is black, but the African or Muslim culture is dangerous and can't be trusted. All about machismo, keeping women subservient, lying, cheating, and stealing (except from your clan), etc. If you move to a country, be willing to take on its language and culture, don't form a conclave and gradually take it over.

you have xenophobia
 
2011-10-19 06:41:00 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

This is the political ad, since nobody has posted it yet. It's a cartoon goat. Not quite sure how the real goat fits in.
The caption reads "for greater security" and underneath in small print it says 'my home--our Switzerland.
 
2011-10-19 06:48:56 PM
greenwald: you have xenophobia

Oh no, not that! Anything but that!

/is oikophobia or xenophilia really any better?
 
2011-10-19 07:32:25 PM
varmitydog: This is the political ad, since nobody has posted it yet. It's a cartoon goat. Not quite sure how the real goat fits in.

I'm no animal expert, but I'm pretty sure those are cartoon sheep. Not goats.
 
2011-10-19 07:35:08 PM
A few more of the SVP ads:
reason.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
www.crestock.com

When I lived in Switzerland these disgusting ads were everywhere. I couldn't find a picture, but they even had an ad which showed dark hands grabbing at a pile of money.

/hot, like interracial marriage
//the images, they are
///speaking like Yoda, I am
////slashies
 
2011-10-19 08:58:42 PM
I dunno dude... if I was Swiss I wouldn't want giant crows attacking my country either.
 
2011-10-19 09:03:37 PM
From what I understand of this situation (which isn't much I admit) they have a problem with the Africans not assimilating. For financial or cultural reasons, they're making their own Chinatown-like areas with their old culture in a country that might have been quite mono-cultural earlier.

Cultural preservation is obviously quite important, to the immigrants and the natives. However, I'd say the natives have the right to be paranoid about their little country's older culture being gradually replaced.
America is massive and we're a few hundred years old. We never had a single culture, not even the Indian tribes had the same thing going on. I don't think it's fair to expect all of them to be as open to widespread change as we eventually were (to an extent).
 
2011-10-19 10:29:33 PM
See Americans don't have a monopoly on racism and xenophobia. Everyone does it in there own country, why don't we have the same rights?
 
2011-10-20 12:20:53 AM
slc11082: *snip*

1/10
I would have rated you higher if you weren't so desperate.
Quality, not quantity, sir.
 
2011-10-20 02:17:08 AM
As an American expat in Switzerland, the SVP are douchebags.

I live in Switzerland as well and I always laugh when I see these vans on the Autobahn:

images.cheezburger.com

On the day I got my permanent residency the SVP set up an anti-immigration stand across from the city hall. I was tempted to have my picture taken with them while holding my card. I should have done it.

By the way, you know who else is Swiss?

www.fernbyfilms.com
 
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