Obama is from Kenya isn't he?

Seems like a bit more than just a simple coincidence.

I should point out that Keynsian economics had no role in the linked story, just as it has no role in the real world.

Keynesianism has fallen out of favor for the same reasons that Galileo was subjected to house arrest.

LawrencePerson: I should point out that Keynsian economics had no role in the linked story, just as it has no role in the real world.

Trickle Down! Laffer Curve! HerpaDerpa!

I would probably prefer the Marvel college information fair anyway.

LawrencePerson: I should point out that Keynsian economics had no role in the linked story, just as it has no role in the real world.

I agree. It doesn't seem to produce the desired results as we are all witnessing now.

Luckily the AC info fair isn't as resistant, but has longer lines...

Blame it on Keynes,
Don't blame it on me.
It's nobody's fault,
They just need somebody to burn.

The "stupid" banner would have been just as appropriate, I think.

I mean, really, how much drama does science need, in the conduct of real work? Is it not a value approaching zero, that?

ghare: LawrencePerson: I should point out that Keynsian economics had no role in the linked story, just as it has no role in the real world.

Trickle Down! Laffer Curve! HerpaDerpa!

Politicians will raise taxes and cut spending during the good times! HerpaDerpa!

Scientists do seem surprisingly testy about the speed of light. The mere hint that Einstein's theories might have gaps or need some review is enough to send most of them into a dither. I can understand not wanting to overturn accepted science based on one event and incomplete data, but for some making any sort of contradictory claim to Einsteinian relativity is akin to a personal insult.

josephstalin: Scientists do seem surprisingly testy about the speed of light. The mere hint that Einstein's theories might have gaps or need some review is enough to send most of them into a dither. I can understand not wanting to overturn accepted science based on one event and incomplete data, but for some making any sort of contradictory claim to Einsteinian relativity is akin to a personal insult.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

firefly212: josephstalin: Scientists do seem surprisingly testy about the speed of light. The mere hint that Einstein's theories might have gaps or need some review is enough to send most of them into a dither. I can understand not wanting to overturn accepted science based on one event and incomplete data, but for some making any sort of contradictory claim to Einsteinian relativity is akin to a personal insult.

Eh, I'm still confused about the whole concept... I mean, all of our physics seems to assume that time itself is non-entropic... everything else has some entropy, so I'm not clear on why we think time is so different. I suppose if you assume entropy in time though, it f's up your ability to explain things like speed.

Time is a by-product of entropy.

Oh yeah, well: http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/all-time-favourite-abstract-so-far-v i a-ginger

/nerdy snort laugh

This text is now purple: josephstalin: Scientists do seem surprisingly testy about the speed of light. The mere hint that Einstein's theories might have gaps or need some review is enough to send most of them into a dither. I can understand not wanting to overturn accepted science based on one event and incomplete data, but for some making any sort of contradictory claim to Einsteinian relativity is akin to a personal insult.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Wouldn't extraordinary claims require regular evidence? Like, isn't that the point of science, that you can use evidence to find out if things are true? If I went to a scientist with data showing that one of Einstein's theories was not completely correct, and he said something like "well, generally this would be enough, but since it's Einstein you're going to need twice as much evidence," I would assume that man was not a real scientist.

vexle: Wouldn't extraordinary claims require regular evidence?

Not when mountains of existing ordinary evidence contradict the extraordinary claim.

vexle: This text is now purple: josephstalin: Scientists do seem surprisingly testy about the speed of light. The mere hint that Einstein's theories might have gaps or need some review is enough to send most of them into a dither. I can understand not wanting to overturn accepted science based on one event and incomplete data, but for some making any sort of contradictory claim to Einsteinian relativity is akin to a personal insult.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Wouldn't extraordinary claims require regular evidence? Like, isn't that the point of science, that you can use evidence to find out if things are true? If I went to a scientist with data showing that one of Einstein's theories was not completely correct, and he said something like "well, generally this would be enough, but since it's Einstein you're going to need twice as much evidence," I would assume that man was not a real scientist.

The extraordinary part of the claim isn't that it controverts Einstein, it's that it controverts a large quantity of empirical data that supports Einstein's theory.

Great, next up... "Occupy CERN."

LawrencePerson: I should point out that Keynsian economics had no role in the linked story, just as it has no role in the real world.

I should point out to you and subby that it is spelled "KeynEsian".

NERDS!

TofuTheAlmighty: Keynesianism has fallen out of favor for the same reasons that Galileo was subjected to house arrest.

Galileo was clearly right, and has been proven so at no cost. Keynes was clearly wrong, and has been proven wrong to the tune of a few trillion$ that you and I must repay.

You mean that kind of same reasons?

angry_scientist: Luckily the AC info fair isn't as resistant, but has longer lines...

I hear you also have to leave right away again.

clancifer: You suggest the failboat captained by Milton Friedman instead?

I'm more of a Joe Stiglitz guy myself. There's a reason politicos and corporate heads won't let him NEAR anything he could possibly fix...

"We don't serve your kind here" said the bartender.
A neutrino walks into a bar.

Giblet: TofuTheAlmighty: Keynesianism has fallen out of favor for the same reasons that Galileo was subjected to house arrest.

Galileo was clearly right, and has been proven so at no cost. Keynes was clearly wrong, and has been proven wrong to the tune of a few trillion$ that you and I must repay.

You mean that kind of same reasons?

That's a funny way of spelling Friedman.