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(Naples Daily News)   You can rob our store. You can take our money. But don't even think about running off with my baby daughter   (naplesnews.com) divider line 95
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2011-10-19 11:06:36 AM
Good for him.... Another scumbag gone...
 
2011-10-19 11:08:24 AM
It is unclear if Easterly could face criminal charges in the shooting.


If there's any justice left in this world he won't. And I mean justice, not law, because far too often today the two are not even close to the same thing.
 
2011-10-19 11:08:57 AM
I found some security camera footage:

www.johnnygoodtimes.com
 
2011-10-19 11:09:31 AM
next time she needs to shoot the center of mass... she got lucky and hit an artery, otherwise he would have sued her and the store for all they are worth (it is florida after all)
 
2011-10-19 11:09:49 AM
First two posters: Easterly is a "she".
 
2011-10-19 11:10:12 AM
"...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?
 
2011-10-19 11:11:06 AM
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2011-10-19 11:11:11 AM
Good on her.
 
2011-10-19 11:11:29 AM
FTA: ...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee...

/and the guy is dead?
//she ain't no Annie Oakley
///glad her baby is safe
 
2011-10-19 11:12:46 AM

highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?


Dell. He's one bad motherSHUT YOUR MOUTH
I'm just talking about Dell.
 
2011-10-19 11:13:20 AM
Link (new window)
 
2011-10-19 11:14:05 AM
Sounds like it's a family owned small shop. If it was owned by a corporation she'd be fired for both having her kids working with her and for having a gun there.
 
2011-10-19 11:14:27 AM

StrangeQ: It is unclear if Easterly could face criminal charges in the shooting.


If there's any justice left in this world he won't. And I mean justice, not law, because far too often today the two are not even close to the same thing.


I read this and was like wtf. Take my child, and you're gonna wish all I do to you is fire one bullet at you. And any law enforcement or lawmaker should agree
 
2011-10-19 11:15:00 AM

highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?


Well, the guy wasn't armed, so it wasn't necessary to shoot the gun out of his hand. The knee is next in priority.
 
2011-10-19 11:15:15 AM
This needs "Hero" tag, to share with "Florida" tag.... She most likely shot his knee since he was carrying the baby. Pretty quick thinking on her part actually. I'd shoot someone who tried to take my kid too, I spent 9 months making that damn thing, if ANYONE is going to hurt it, it will be me... (wow, that doesn't sound as great out of my head) But yeah, glad it all turned out okay.
 
2011-10-19 11:15:36 AM
www.exposay.com
Approves
 
2011-10-19 11:18:40 AM
Good for her. Though knowing the height of the average stroller, I would have aimed for center mass, higher target and all that. If he was holding my kid, kneecaps.

/Why I wish my diaper bag had a built in holster
//Though it would likely be in the bottom of the stroller...
 
2011-10-19 11:19:02 AM
I would have shot the baby out of his hand.
 
2011-10-19 11:19:20 AM

strapp3r: FTA: ...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee...

/and the guy is dead?
//she ain't no Annie Oakley
///glad her baby is safe


She aimed for a knee and hit something in a life-threatening situation. That makes her Clint Freaking Eastwood. Whoever told her to aim for something other than center mass was giving bad advice, however.
 
2011-10-19 11:20:38 AM

jjorsett: highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?

Well, the guy wasn't armed, so it wasn't necessary to shoot the gun out of his hand. The knee is next in priority.


I think I just heard my retired USMC concealed carry instructor's head explode.
 
2011-10-19 11:24:01 AM

highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?


27.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-10-19 11:24:01 AM

spicorama: next time she needs to shoot the center of mass... she got lucky and hit an artery, otherwise he would have sued her and the store for all they are worth (it is florida after all)


Yep, although it is entirely possible that the center of mass area included part of the stroller and babies, so in that case shooting the knees was a good option.
 
2011-10-19 11:25:16 AM

Spade: jjorsett: highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?

Well, the guy wasn't armed, so it wasn't necessary to shoot the gun out of his hand. The knee is next in priority.

I think I just heard my retired USMC concealed carry instructor's head explode.


Haters gonna hate.
 
2011-10-19 11:27:51 AM

spicorama: next time she needs to shoot the center of mass... she got lucky and hit an artery, otherwise he would have sued her and the store for all they are worth (it is florida after all)


Agreed - the aim at the knee thing is a little risky, with a moving target and a baby and all.
Also, the caliber was apparently appropriate to do the job anyway. But still, who teaches
cinema-quality sharpshooting of specific tendons during stressful situations rather than go
for the center of mass? A feather in the cap of the teacher nonetheless, apparently their
stuff works.
 
2011-10-19 11:31:04 AM
Aren't you usually authorized to kill in defense of your child? Don't see why she might be charged.
 
2011-10-19 11:31:42 AM
probesport:

Who the hell taught her to do that?

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Well Played Sir!
 
2011-10-19 11:32:40 AM

highbrow45: Who the hell taught her to do that?


A compassionate person who believes that if you are in danger for your life, perhaps a non fatal shot will stop the person and you won't have to live with the guilt of killing another human being for the rest of your life.

Just a guess.
 
2011-10-19 11:33:56 AM
Wow! I don't think I could hit that target under the best of conditions. I sure do hope she's acquitted. Seems like it would be a pretty clear-cut act of defense, and she shot his knee, which shows she intentionally tried to not kill him.
 
2011-10-19 11:33:56 AM

dothemath: I would have shot the baby out of his hand.


HA!

+1
 
2011-10-19 11:35:40 AM

frenchcheesemuseum: highbrow45: Who the hell taught her to do that?

A compassionate person who believes that if you are in danger for your life, perhaps a non fatal shot will stop the person and you won't have to live with the guilt of killing another human being for the rest of your life.

Just a guess.


No such thing. You pull trigger, you plan on killing. "Winging" someone on purpose is Hollywood BS.
 
2011-10-19 11:36:24 AM
Wait a minute - let's not be too harsh. Maybe this poor guy is just one of the disenfranchised 99%.
 
2011-10-19 11:37:05 AM

frenchcheesemuseum: highbrow45: Who the hell taught her to do that?

A compassionate person who believes that if you are in danger for your life, perhaps a non fatal shot will stop the person and you won't have to live with the guilt of killing another human being for the rest of your life.

Just a guess.


Please don't ever arm yourself. You will create more danger to yourself and others.
 
2011-10-19 11:38:10 AM
As part of Florida's "Castle Doctrine" signed into law in 2005, a person is permitted to use deadly force if "necessary to prevent death, great harm or the commission of a forcible felony."

...like kidnapping.
 
2011-10-19 11:39:03 AM

frenchcheesemuseum: highbrow45: Who the hell taught her to do that?

A compassionate person who believes that if you are in danger for your life, perhaps a non fatal shot will stop the person and you won't have to live with the guilt of killing another human being for the rest of your life.

Just a guess.


As a compassionate human being in general who also happens to own guns, I can promise you I would feel no guilt at taking the life of someone who would harm my family (especially my baby). In fact I would be highly annoyed because of all the law enforcement bs that goes with it...

/former cop
//current father
///She better not even get a stern talking to..
 
2011-10-19 11:39:53 AM
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Should've shot the hostage.
 
2011-10-19 11:41:14 AM

d-fens99: Aren't you usually authorized to kill in defense of your child? Don't see why she might be charged.


No reason to think she will be. The "not clear at this time" thing is technically true, since the investigation is still open. It's a troll, to get clicks on their comments page.
 
2011-10-19 11:42:22 AM

Tomahawk513: Wow! I don't think I could hit that target under the best of conditions. I sure do hope she's acquitted not charged. Seems like it would be a pretty clear-cut act of defense, and she shot his knee, which shows she intentionally tried to not kill him.


FTFM
 
2011-10-19 11:46:32 AM

jjorsett: strapp3r: FTA: ...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee...

/and the guy is dead?
//she ain't no Annie Oakley
///glad her baby is safe

She aimed for a knee and hit something in a life-threatening situation. That makes her Clint Freaking Eastwood. Whoever told her to aim for something other than center mass was giving bad advice, however.


Center of mass was probably where the would-be kidnapper was holding the baby. Check targets first, and if you can't shoot the chest without hitting the hostage, shoot the pelvis.

/then the head
 
2011-10-19 11:51:20 AM
FLORIDA tag could have taken a time off for this one and let the HERO tag handle it.

btw, why the reluctance to use HERO tags when the protagonist is a woman? both this and the mom who refused chemo to deliver were clear cut HERO tags imho
 
2011-10-19 11:53:24 AM
See this is perfectly responsible gun ownership. The contents of the cash register are not worth a gun battle. The minute they threaten the kids though, blow them away.

My only quibble is that dead people don't file personal injury lawsuits or otherwise make pests of themselves. Put one in his skull, when you're in front of court and sobbing how the guy was trying to use your 1 year old as a hostage, no jury is going to quibble over the 9mm in the base ofd the brain.
 
2011-10-19 11:53:45 AM

deforge: FLORIDA tag could have taken a time off for this one and let the HERO tag handle it.

btw, why the reluctance to use HERO tags when the protagonist is a woman? both this and the mom who refused chemo to deliver were clear cut HERO tags imho


Because there is no Heroine tag?

/Waiting for sammich post
 
2011-10-19 11:53:59 AM

MycroftHolmes: Please don't ever arm yourself. You will create more danger to yourself and others.


Well FWIW, I would never own a gun. Now that doesn't imply that I think gun ownership should be outlawed, but I wouldn't own one because I'm fairly positive that I could not shoot another human being.

I'm also fairly positive that if I was in danger, not only could I not shoot someone else, I'd probably be disarmed and shot with my own gun.

I'm not oblivious to this fact.
 
2011-10-19 11:54:54 AM

God--: /former cop
//current father
///She better not even get a stern talking to..


See you've had training.

You have something valuable to protect.

And I agree with the triple slashie 100%.
 
2011-10-19 11:56:21 AM

Tatterdemalian: jjorsett: strapp3r: FTA: ...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee...

/and the guy is dead?
//she ain't no Annie Oakley
///glad her baby is safe

She aimed for a knee and hit something in a life-threatening situation. That makes her Clint Freaking Eastwood. Whoever told her to aim for something other than center mass was giving bad advice, however.

Center of mass was probably where the would-be kidnapper was holding the baby. Check targets first, and if you can't shoot the chest without hitting the hostage, shoot the pelvis.

/then the head


She may also have had the old shotgun under the counter option of self defense. So your shot is going to spread as you fire. If the kidnapper is holding the baby high, I'd definitely aim low on my first shot. Don't want to fill the toddler with buckshot. Knee or ankle would do just fine and get the guy to drop the kid. Then my second shot is going for center of mass.
 
2011-10-19 12:04:01 PM

highbrow45: "...Easterly did just as she had been taught - she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber's knee..."

Who the hell taught her to do that?


Someone who knows farkall about using firearms. Always aim center mass on your target. There's no reason to shoot someone if you don't want them to die.
 
2011-10-19 12:05:29 PM
so many farkers need to be on TopShot.


/bang bang biatches
 
2011-10-19 12:07:44 PM
So are we going to get the people that say it is wrong to kill someone that we normally get in these threads or are they going to say she did the right thing because a child was in danger? I always find it funny and sad when people change their opinions, because a child was involved.
 
2011-10-19 12:08:44 PM
I like seeing the Florida tag used for positive stories once in a while, especially since I live here (for now anyway).
Under Florida law this woman was completely in her rights, and will not be charged with anything. The article is just throwing that line out there to stir up a lively debate and get some comments.
 
2011-10-19 12:14:53 PM

frenchcheesemuseum: highbrow45: Who the hell taught her to do that?

A compassionate person who believes that if you are in danger for your life, perhaps a non fatal shot will stop the person and you won't have to live with the guilt of killing another human being for the rest of your life.

Just a guess.


Actually no.

But that can get you brought up on charges.

If you take a non-fatal shot and tell the cops that you felt that was sufficient to stop the threat then you've admitted that you didn't need to use deadly force to stop the threat. And a firearm is always deadly force.
 
2011-10-19 12:16:12 PM

God--: Good for him.... Another scumbag gone...


Waiting for the libs (especially in the UK) to start calling him a killer
 
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