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2011-10-19 12:24:37 AM
So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.
 
2011-10-19 12:27:26 AM
bostinnovation.com
 
2011-10-19 01:27:49 AM
Pretty interesting after just watching Frontline tonight...
 
2011-10-19 01:45:53 AM
www.toplessrobot.com
 
2011-10-19 01:49:42 AM
I couldn't watch. Who won, Bush III, Alan Keyes, or Hoynes?
 
2011-10-19 01:51:34 AM
astro716: I couldn't watch. Who won, Bush III, Alan Keyes, or Hoynes?

Obama.
 
2011-10-19 01:58:52 AM
vygramul: So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.


He's got a point. Those who pray have already learned how to absolve responsibility.
 
2011-10-19 02:01:04 AM
talkingpointsmemo.com

"Smell ma finger!"

"Honey, no. Just don't."
 
2011-10-19 02:02:05 AM
"I hate working people more!"

"Oh yeah? Well, I've murdered more people in cold blood!"

"I've supported more terrorists than you!"
 
2011-10-19 02:02:16 AM
sallyhanreck.com
 
2011-10-19 02:02:19 AM
"Turns out that once question they hired someone who had falsified their documents and therefore we fired them"

Uhm, what? Is that the actual quote, or did they mess it up in the article somehow?
 
2011-10-19 02:02:38 AM
vygramul: So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.


Really? How very egalitarian of Newt.

I would have expected him to say "If you don't pray to Jesus then you cannot be in power". Did he go off-message deliberately?

(srsly. GHW Bush said the same thing in the 1980s about how atheists aren't real Americans and cannot be patriotic. Just more GOP bigotry. Pretty tame in comparison to some of their anti-black and anti-gay and anti-muslim and anti-hispanic rhetoric.)
 
2011-10-19 02:04:54 AM
cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: vygramul: So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.

He's got a point. Those who pray have already learned how to absolve responsibility.


That reminds me of an Emo Phillips quote:


"When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me."



/Never new Emo was Republican
 
2011-10-19 02:05:12 AM
I almost give a shiat about these debates anymore.

I started watching the first ones thinking "this should be good"

now I have to turn them off. I pick up the remote thinking "this is fking terrible"

These guys are tripping over each other (as usually happens when competing for nomination) but to a degree they are going to ruin each others chances in the general election.

The only one that doesn't look completely terrible at this point is Cain, and that's only when you ignore the fact that he seems like some child's toy that spouts the same two lines every time you squeeze him. "I have a plan" "9-9-9"

I would think this early in the game it would be too quick to say but... starting to look like Obama doesn't have shiat to worry about.

/Bill Maher on the other hand might owe Michelle Caruso-Cabrera a million dollars
//was Michelle dressed up as an Admiral?
 
2011-10-19 02:09:48 AM
Truly important issues being discussed here.
 
2011-10-19 02:11:09 AM
How do they think that it's really a good idea to have so many debates anyway? This is getting ridiculous, and are they even a quarter of the way through their insane debate schedule yet?

Can't even be bothered to be outraged about their newest absurdities anymore. Maybe that's the goal?
 
2011-10-19 02:21:41 AM
Abner Doon: How do they think that it's really a good idea to have so many debates anyway? This is getting ridiculous, and are they even a quarter of the way through their insane debate schedule yet?

Can't even be bothered to be outraged about their newest absurdities anymore. Maybe that's the goal?


Personally I'm getting a kick out of it. It's like a new episode of the Squidbillies every time the debates come on.
 
2011-10-19 02:35:12 AM
Man, there really isn't anyone on that stage as fundamentally unlikable as Mitt Romney. Rick Perry looked like he was ready to claw his eyes out.
 
2011-10-19 02:36:51 AM
This is the worst miniseries ever.
 
2011-10-19 03:05:38 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-19 03:10:02 AM
it's like nfl training camp for rookies. They have to suffer through two-a-day's in order to prep for the big one.

And they won't even win the coin toss.
 
2011-10-19 03:11:21 AM
I have to admit, that was kinda fun to watch.
 
2011-10-19 03:25:01 AM
Gato Blanco: Personally I'm getting a kick out of it. It's like a new episode of the Squidbillies every time the debates come on

Best description. Period.

But that is the voter base for these jackasses.
 
2011-10-19 03:27:57 AM
I have to wonder, if they brake out a new candidate late in the game after all the mud slinging is over... was that the plan all along?

/I wouldn't enter until the 9th or 10th debate, the blood lust meter is far too high
 
2011-10-19 03:28:37 AM
U mad, bro?

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2011-10-19 03:43:22 AM
talkingpointsmemo.com

"Don't touch me there Mitt, it's my secret no-no spot"
 
2011-10-19 03:51:48 AM
Wow, that's a brilliant Condescending Pat from Romney there. That image alone will lose Perry a few points.

MurphyMurphy: The only one that doesn't look completely terrible at this point is Cain, and that's only when you ignore the fact that he seems like some child's toy that spouts the same two lines every time you squeeze him. "I have a plan" "9-9-9"

Now we just need to throw Rudy Guiliani back in the debates, so he can counter with "So do I! 9-1-1".
 
2011-10-19 04:26:31 AM
Wow. That almost made me want to vote for Romney... then I remembered that he's a lying asshole.
 
2011-10-19 04:31:24 AM
My favorite line from the WSJ article (Fark won't link it due to an intermittent pay wall): "The debate, in which former House speaker Newt Gingrich also participated, was sponsored by CNN and the Western Republican Leadership Conference" (emphasis supplied).
 
2011-10-19 04:36:14 AM
The problem is that if things aren't going well with the Democrats the only option is to elect a Republican.

Bad or worse is what Americans have to vote for.
 
2011-10-19 04:44:03 AM
farkityfarker: The problem is that if things aren't going well with the Democrats the only option is to elect a Republican.

If you think voting for any of those republicans is an option, then you are the problem.
 
2011-10-19 04:55:13 AM
anyways, I don't think anybody thinks Perry is gonna gain ground with his volleys with Romney. But it might help prevent Romney from gaining on Cain despite Cain having a bad media day (seriously dumb rookie move on Cain's part with the Guantanamo/hostages answer).

Romney's "you can't have any illegals working on our property, I'm running for office, for Pete's sake" quote is an unintentional classic. And it's the reason why he has to go with the "We can build a giant-ass fence" nonsense. When Rick freaking Perry is the only guy advocating for a more intelligent approach, something has gone wrong.

Will the Angry Mitt Romney that was unleashed on Santorum and Perry play well with voters? It was the first time Mitt was taken out of his "i'm so smooth, i'll answer your criticism by smiling and acting like you're just being dumb" method of handling criticism
 
2011-10-19 06:06:09 AM
dontgetmestarted-lindasharp.typepad.com
 
2011-10-19 06:09:31 AM
I can't wait until it turns into a barroom free for all. My money's on Cain. Bet he'd pull a knife and yell, "STAND BACK OR I'LL CUT YA biatch!"

Wouldn't that be grand.
 
2011-10-19 06:40:13 AM
Bill_Wick's_Friend: vygramul: So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.

Really? How very egalitarian of Newt.

I would have expected him to say "If you don't pray to Jesus then you cannot be in power". Did he go off-message deliberately?

(srsly. GHW Bush said the same thing in the 1980s about how atheists aren't real Americans and cannot be patriotic. Just more GOP bigotry. Pretty tame in comparison to some of their anti-black and anti-gay and anti-muslim and anti-hispanic rhetoric.)


The question was whether a candidate's faith was important, the context was that pastor who said Mormonism is a cult. When Newt's turn came he basically used the same argument that is used regarding morality: if you don't believe in God, where does your morality come from? And to him, Atheists cannot have any morality because there is no other source.
 
2011-10-19 06:50:28 AM
I'd find these debates more entertaining except for the fact this is supposed to represent a second major political party in this country, instead it's just very depressing.


Also, Anderson Cooper is a bad moderator, We need to hire Mike Tyson or some meathead to tackle the candidates off the podium whenever they go over time.
 
2011-10-19 07:07:09 AM
The Trooper: Also, Anderson Cooper is a bad moderator, We need to hire Mike Tyson or some meathead to tackle the candidates off the podium whenever they go over time.

I suggest Jesse Ventura..
 
2011-10-19 07:17:07 AM
among these candidates, on this particular issue, I agree with Perry.

/goddammit I feel dirty now :(
 
2011-10-19 07:23:53 AM
Heh... You'd think at this point the GOP would want to start limiting these debates as the candidates just look more and more ridiculous with every debate.

'Course, "Ridiculous" seems to be the theme for the GOP this time around, so...
 
2011-10-19 07:32:36 AM
vygramul: Bill_Wick's_Friend: vygramul: So Newt just said that if you don't pray, you cannot be trusted with power.

Wow.

Really? How very egalitarian of Newt.

I would have expected him to say "If you don't pray to Jesus then you cannot be in power". Did he go off-message deliberately?

(srsly. GHW Bush said the same thing in the 1980s about how atheists aren't real Americans and cannot be patriotic. Just more GOP bigotry. Pretty tame in comparison to some of their anti-black and anti-gay and anti-muslim and anti-hispanic rhetoric.)

The question was whether a candidate's faith was important, the context was that pastor who said Mormonism is a cult. When Newt's turn came he basically used the same argument that is used regarding morality: if you don't believe in God, where does your morality come from? And to him, Atheists cannot have any morality because there is no other source.


Any mention of morality from Newt farking Gingrich is laughable. What has happened to Michele Bachmann? No crazy quotes from her this time or has she hit the 15 minute mark?

At some point, won't they have to drop Santorum and Gingrich from the invite list due to not actually being candidates?
 
2011-10-19 07:36:38 AM
noneyourbase: Man, there really isn't anyone on that stage as fundamentally unlikable as Mitt Romney.

Counterpoint: Santorum.
 
2011-10-19 07:47:21 AM
talkingpointsmemo.com
"But Mitt, I poop from there!"

"Not tonight, you don't..."
 
2011-10-19 08:03:54 AM
They're doing this way too soon. Everybody is going to be sick of these clowns come summer.
 
2011-10-19 08:04:52 AM
dr_blasto: Any mention of morality from Newt farking Gingrich is laughable. What has happened to Michele Bachmann? No crazy quotes from her this time or has she hit the 15 minute mark?

Well... Bachmann did say she'd build two fences along the Mexican border with a 'no man's land' between them. And that Iraq and Afghanistan owe us money for freeing them. And she mentioned Saint Regan's "banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors" and that she is the boldest one of the group (or similar, I forget her exact words) so she should be president.
 
2011-10-19 08:06:56 AM
YodaBlues: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 640x353]
"But Mitt, I poop from there!"

"Not tonight, you don't..."


Rick Perry is just going to lose his temper and actually strike Mitt Romney one of these days.
 
2011-10-19 08:08:08 AM
Jake Havechek: They're doing this way too soon. Everybody is going to be sick of these clowns come summer.

"Going?" "Summer?"

I'm already sick of them. And I sincerely hope what few reasonable Republicans there are left feel the same way.
 
2011-10-19 08:10:14 AM
 
2011-10-19 08:13:37 AM
PonceAlyosha: Rick Perry is just going to lose his temper and actually strike Mitt Romney one of these days.

Catfight!
 
2011-10-19 08:21:12 AM
I think we're long past the Law of Diminishing Returns on the GOP debates, and yet they keep trotting them out there like it's the two remaining members of Foghat still touring just to keep the child support payments at bay.

By the time this is done the GOP debates will be broadcast only over the PA system at the Kmart in Clubfoot, Nebraska and the commercial breaks will have to carefully coincide with the Blue Light Special on plus-size dress shields.
 
2011-10-19 08:23:01 AM
They should have the candidates do a Most Extreme Elimination Challenge obstacle course, finisher gets the nomination.
 
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