That's. Farking. Fabulous.

I was alreadyworried about Alzheimer's and osteoporosis, because I'm JUST like my dad's mom. Now, I know for sure. If I live that long, between the genetics, the depression, AND the HIV-related dementia...I'm screwed. Completely farking screwed.

I don't want to know this. Luckily I will probably forget this thread exists.

Please mods, no repeats

Well played, subs.

Another good day to be a guy. I'd apologize for this comment, but those that take offense will forget soon enough.

The headline's pretty funny, but when my grandma lived at our house for the final years of her life, that phrase is something she'd often repeat. She'd even get pissed off/frustrated because she didn't know why she was sad.

From tfa: "Obviously, trying to maintain an optimistic view of things is critically important," said Conn, who encourages people to take part in mood-enhancing activities such as regular exercise, eating well, getting proper sleep and using one's skills.

"And maintaining and nurturing close relationships, nurturing one's spiritual self - all of these things can be helpful."

Good advice. I would venture to say depression may be correlated with dementia because, if you are depressed due to poor nutrition at a younger age, your brain will continue to deteriorate and not function properly as you continue to age, if you don't get the substances your body needs to work right.

/Take good care of yourself. You're worth it! And you won't annoy the rest of us with forgetting shiat all the time. (;

I grew up believing that depression was a cheap euphemism for "weakness." It wasn't until the age of 30 or so that I finally admitted to myself that I had a serious problem.

Get help, folks. There's the blues and then there's an actual affliction. If you suspect you might be a victim of the latter, please seek help and FFS don't wait as long as I did. I can track most of the mistakes in my life to depression and BPD.

The help won't "cure" you. But you can manage. Every day is a fight, and you're in it to win.

Great, so now I'm sad and I don't know why

In my experience, this has always been the case for all women.

theknuckler_33: Great, so now I'm sad and I don't know why

In my experience, this has always been the case for all women.

Eh, yeah, basically.

Hell, I'm male, have depression, and occasionally I have that problem... most of the time, though, I can tell when it's just because of the depression.

There is no "why" for depression on an emotional level, because it doesn't come from experiences.

theknuckler_33: In my experience, this has always been the case for all women.

My biggest complaint with all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot) is that they won't tell me why they're upset. This is why guys enjoy hanging out with each other. Did Frank just piss you off? You tell him or punch him in no uncertain terms. Five minutes later you return to being the best of friends. There's no room for bullsh*t between guys. Women? Now I have to navigate this web they weave, hoping that I'll eventually escape.

"But you're supposed to know why we're upset or anticipate our anger!" NO, I CAN'T. Not when you drape it in some perceived slight from 2003 or just plain shut down and refuse to talk about it, except to call me an asshole. Thanks, that really helps.

dickfreckle, maybe if you keep mentioning all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot), just sayin!

SpeckledJim: dickfreckle, maybe if you keep mentioning all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot), just sayin!

Yeah, that was a bad one.

Was just trying to express that I have too much experience to still be dumbfounded by how a woman's brain works. You'd think I would have figured it out by now. Maybe I'm just an idiot.

Let's just go with the latter and let the argument die.

It has been shown that memory and learning is severely affected by depression, but greatly ameliorated by medication. Wonder if that statistic is affected if the women who seek treatment?

I've been diagnosed with (treatable) clinical depression since I was in my early 20's and I don't think there's a higher chance of me getting dementia. Just ask the stagecoach driver, he knows where the macaroni is going. The purple is delicious, you should try it...wait, what? Where am I? Who are you people?!

My mother has had depression for a lot of her life and she's been exhibiting early signs of dementia for the past few years. She's only 55 years old. It's sad. I'm starting to get depression again myself after being mostly ok since I last had severe problems in 8th grade (11 years ago or so). I'm scared to death I'll end up like my mom.

dickfreckle: SpeckledJim: dickfreckle, maybe if you keep mentioning all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot), just sayin!

Yeah, that was a bad one.

Was just trying to express that I have too much experience to still be dumbfounded by how a woman's brain works. You'd think I would have figured it out by now. Maybe I'm just an idiot.

Let's just go with the latter and let the argument die.

No argument... my wife sometimes gets in a mood with me for no reason, and I only find out later it's because I did something wrong in a DREAM she had the night before. This behavior is not unique to her amongst her kind, I've discovered.

SpeckledJim: dickfreckle: SpeckledJim: dickfreckle, maybe if you keep mentioning all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot), just sayin!

Yeah, that was a bad one.

Was just trying to express that I have too much experience to still be dumbfounded by how a woman's brain works. You'd think I would have figured it out by now. Maybe I'm just an idiot.

Let's just go with the latter and let the argument die.

No argument... my wife sometimes gets in a mood with me for no reason, and I only find out later it's because I did something wrong in a DREAM she had the night before. This behavior is not unique to her amongst her kind, I've discovered.

My live-in and serious GF in 2005 managed to bring up something I'm not even sure I did two years earlier. Before this, the love of my life actually brought up some ancient and utterly stupid incident and used it to give me the silent treatment for days. This time I know for a fact I was right. Yet it was me who had to do all the housework and walk on eggshells for days.

Jesus, why wasn't I born gay?

Gyrfalcon: THIS JUST IN: Many brain dysfunctions are related! News at 11!

Pretty much this.

When my wife's depression was at it's worst, and she was being treated in hospital, she was also diagnosed with Delusional Disorder.
Which explained much of the previous year.

No idea which was the "chicken" and which was the "egg", but now that the depression is under control there aren't any new delusions that I'm aware of. Or maybe it's the anti-psychotics that she also takes.

Unfortunately she still remembers and generally believes that some of the delusional constructs are true. They just aren't important enough to her for her to react much to them.

Apparently that might be the "best outcome we might see".

So, yeah, depression sucks. Even if you're not the one who has it. Mental illness nasty shiat.

This is news? Depression = dementia.

Luckily, it's *extremely* rare that a woman gets depressed, so it's all a moot point.

kent_eh: Gyrfalcon: THIS JUST IN: Many brain dysfunctions are related! News at 11!

Pretty much this.

When my wife's depression was at it's worst, and she was being treated in hospital, she was also diagnosed with Delusional Disorder.
Which explained much of the previous year.

No idea which was the "chicken" and which was the "egg", but now that the depression is under control there aren't any new delusions that I'm aware of. Or maybe it's the anti-psychotics that she also takes.

Unfortunately she still remembers and generally believes that some of the delusional constructs are true. They just aren't important enough to her for her to react much to them.

Apparently that might be the "best outcome we might see".

So, yeah, depression sucks. Even if you're not the one who has it. Mental illness nasty shiat.

"Related" is too strong a term. If you have one you're statistically more likely to have another, meaning they are "comorbid", though if you happen to have both they can play with one another! I've only had the depression part myself, and it's bad enough on its own. Best of luck.

I've been on meds for about 15 years now for chemical depression. Recently found out that one of my meds (Effexor) can contribute to memory loss. Great...now i'm depressed about losing my memory.

Why am i here again? Oh right...candy and ponies. Carry on.

dickfreckle: Jesus, why wasn't I born gay?

Be glad you weren't born a lesbian. :)

SpeckledJim: kent_eh: Gyrfalcon: THIS JUST IN: Many brain dysfunctions are related! News at 11!

"Related" is too strong a term. If you have one you're statistically more likely to have another

This...

HKWolf: I've been on meds for about 15 years now for chemical depression. Recently found out that one of my meds (Effexor) can contribute to memory loss. Great...now i'm depressed about losing my memory.

...and this.

Then when you factor in that trauma such as strokes can also affect mood, it can be a pile-up of factors which feed off one another, with no cure. The best one can hope for sometimes is to manage the damage as best you can. I have several patients who are on both anti-depressants and anti-psychotics, plus drugs to deal with dementia. The truly sad thing is that as batshiat as some of them can be while on all those, they go even more batshiat if one part of the meds is d/c'd by the hospital/family member/etc.

/Although, on the flip side, it is amusing for a resident who's asking if my brother has signed up to fight the Nazis to stop in mid-sentence, look over at someone with a catheter shrieking about needing to pee, and drawl, "Now, what on earth is HER problem?"
//Rough to see people decline as they age - gotta keep your sense of humor.

SpeckledJim: dickfreckle: SpeckledJim: dickfreckle, maybe if you keep mentioning all the women I've been with (sounds like I'm bragging, but there have been a lot), just sayin!

Yeah, that was a bad one.

Was just trying to express that I have too much experience to still be dumbfounded by how a woman's brain works. You'd think I would have figured it out by now. Maybe I'm just an idiot.

Let's just go with the latter and let the argument die.

No argument... my wife sometimes gets in a mood with me for no reason, and I only find out later it's because I did something wrong in a DREAM she had the night before. This behavior is not unique to her amongst her kind, I've discovered.

I sympathize... I've done that over some especially vivid dreams involving cheating. They can really put you in a queer mood all day, since your head can be your worst enemy sometimes. It's hard to let something traumatic go even when it was purely a figment of your imagination, or just something especially brutal you saw on TV.

It's probably worse because I try to practice lucid dreaming, which really blurs the reality/fantasy line.