You can tell the difference between Mizzou and a community college?

Come on, Big 12.



You know you want to party in the Big Easy.

I will be sad to see the rivalry die down between Kansas and Missouri, but frankly, if Missouri leaves and the Big 12 goes out and gets West Virginia, Louisville and one more, that's a gain for the conference.

Have fun being Vanderbilt without the academics, Missouri.

Go Mountaineers.

We don't have any rivalries in the Big 12 but I'll take it over remaining in a (more) watered down Big East.

If this means losing Alabama/Tennessee I think I speak for a lot of people when I say we don't want this.

mitchcumstein1: I will be sad to see the rivalry die down between Kansas and Missouri, but frankly, if Missouri leaves and the Big 12 goes out and gets West Virginia, Louisville and one more, that's a gain for the conference.

Have fun being Vanderbilt without the academics, Missouri.

So what's going to count as a moral victory this week? Giving up 500 yards and 45 points?

A Fark Handle: why the fark would the sec want mizzou. i would rather have west virginia. mizzou is like that stalker girl that just won't go away. first with the eyes towards the big10, now the sec. give it up. you're fat, annoying, and smell. no one is that drunk. not even in the south.

and why west virginia? because their fans have the sec attitude, that is insane. they burn couches! of course i'm sure their are member of the sec that don't like west virginia because they are the part of virginia that left virginia during the civil war. of course culturally since then they have more back towards the sec.

/and yes i know it's all about the tv contracts, but there should be something
//seriously no mizzou in the sec. occupy sec

Easy, St Louis market, that's why the SEC wants MIzzou

/I'll be cold and in the ground before I recognize Missoura

BigJake: there is literally no danger of Louisville going to the SEC

bad team, little tradition, no money in it

Kentucky also has veto power on that, as any other school would have on another in-state school.

CalvinMorallis: but why would either school want to jump ship

Because of tv money and the big east would possibly lose its automatic qualifier status.

chuggernaught: applying =/= accepted

They'll be accepted. Mizzou offers a large television market and there's been rumblings for about 6 months they would be the 14th member of the SEC, WVU has already been unofficially rejected due to academics.

Mentat: mitchcumstein1: I will be sad to see the rivalry die down between Kansas and Missouri, but frankly, if Missouri leaves and the Big 12 goes out and gets West Virginia, Louisville and one more, that's a gain for the conference.

Have fun being Vanderbilt without the academics, Missouri.

So what's going to count as a moral victory this week? Giving up 500 yards and 45 points?

That's just mean spirited.

And it would be nice if they kept K-State under 40.

If the Big East collapses, I'm WVU can deal with being an independent again. Or the the Big East can become a grouping of pseudo-independents. No conference AQ, but access to the Notre Dame BCS treatment if one of them is good. I'd like that the most, to be honest.

Ugh, I don't like this.

Don't like A&M joining, either ...

video man: I'm WVU can deal with being an independent again

No, just, no.

HawgWild: Ugh, I don't like this.

Don't like A&M joining, either ...

Shut it and sip your whiskey, nancy boy. This is the only way the SEC will stay relevant, 4 power conferences is an inevitable outcome.

velvet_fog: Colorado left first. Mizzou begged to join the Big Ten (and got rejected) in the months prior to Nebraska's invite, well before CU or NU knew they were leaving. So Mizzou deserves much of the blame for starting this last year.

Wrong!

The structural deficiencies of the Big XII were built into the charter. Despite the fact that other conferences had proven that equal revenue sharing and conference networks worked, the Big XII stuck with an antiquated system. Nebraska, Oklahoma and A&M were just fine with that system as long as it benefited them, but when Texas started pulling ahead, they suddenly became jealous. Mizzou had tried for years to get things changed in the conference, but couldn't even get the issues to come up for a vote. When the rumor first surfaced on ESPN of Big Ten expansion, Mizzou's administration went into lock down mode and tried to maintain message control. Someone forgot to tell the governor though, and thus spawned the "Mizzou is a whore" meme. Normally, you wouldn't expect that a rumor about Missouri leaving would cause a conference to implode, but all of the players saw the opportunity to finish old grudges. Tom Osbourne started waving his hands at the Big Ten very early on and when it looked like Mizzou to Big Ten might be gaining steam, Nebraska saw a chance to kneecap Texas and Mizzou at the same time. Texas, being Texas, decided to go all in and engineered the negotiations with the Pac-10. Texas, being Texas, naturally overplayed their hand and forced Colorado to jump lest the Pac-16 formed without them. Texas' attempt to call Nebraska's bluff failed miserably as by this point Nebraska had an invite in hand. Furthermore, A&M chafed at being pulled along to the PAC by Texas and began talking to the SEC. With the Pac deal falling apart, Texas managed to get concessions from the remaining schools in exchange for "saving" the conference they suddenly discovered they couldn't leave.

HawgWild: Ugh, I don't like this.

Don't like A&M joining, either ...

Well, then tell your president's to stop voting for this. The Pac isn't going to expand without Texas, the Big Ten is fine at 12, and the ACC only expanded as a hedge against the SEC's predations. This would actually be one time where I would like to see the rug pulled out from under Mizzou, so get cracking.

Krymson Tyde: If this means losing Alabama/Tennessee I think I speak for a lot of people when I say we don't want this.

There is probably nothing, and I mean nothing, Tennessee and Alabama fans can agree on except for THIS^^^^^^^^^^

Well, that and the fact that Mike Slive decided a number of years ago that the third Saturday in October wasn't that big a deal and we really wouldn't care if that was flexible. But other than those two things...

babysealclubber: Shut it and sip your whiskey, nancy boy. This is the only way the SEC will stay relevant, 4 power conferences is an inevitable outcome.

Mentat: Well, then tell your president's to stop voting for this.

I (sorta) don't mind expanding. I just don't like the teams we're choosing.

This is the SEC, dammit! We could potentially have anyone we want! And we're going with ... Mizzou and A&M?!

Useless Destruction of Exergy: Digitalstrange: Krymson Tyde: If this means losing Alabama/Tennessee I think I speak for a lot of people when I say we don't want this.

That won't happen till we hit 18 teams, only then will the contact between divisions be limited to the championship game. More than likely each team will keep their cross division rival and just have 1 rotating cross division game.

Now if we expand to 16 then they gotta decide whether to eliminate the cross division rival game or the rotating games

Nope, Krymson Tyde's scenario will happen now, and here's why:

Current NCAA rules say that if you want to have a title game, all of the schools in each division must play each other in a round-robin schedule. That's 6 games of a 12 game regular schedule filled for a conference with 14 teams.

If a school wants to position its team for a big money bowl, it needs to schedule a competitive inter-sectional game each year, which probably means a home-and-away deal. That's 7 game slots filled.

Each school needs to pay for competitive facilities and high-dollar head coaches and coordinators, so they will want to keep the 3 cupcake games that they can play at home, or, at worst, a neutral site game where the money split will be close to 50/50. That's 10 game slots filled.

That leaves 2 games. A one regular cross-divisional rival setup means that it will take 12 YEARS to go through a single rotation of the other teams during the regular season. In other words, you won't see some match ups for a whole DECADE unless the teams meet in a championship game.

Lose the regular cross-divisional game, and you cut the rotation period in half. But you lose the traditional rivalries that made college football popular to begin with.

This kind of tinkering reminds me of what happened to the NHL and NASCAR, where the quest for more profits alienated a lot of their base audiences.

In the end, I'm not a proponent of conference expansion.

I'm still wondering how the M. West/C-USA mega conference will work. Multiple divisions?

Pratty: I thought they already got turned down for the SEC?

*rimshot*

/but seriously, now this message from the university of alabama's college of letters, sciences and blinking

Useless Destruction of Exergy: video man:> I'm still wondering how the M. West/C-USA mega conference will work. Multiple divisions?

I don't think they want a truly merged conference; I think they just want to have the ability to have a play-in game to the BCS.

So winner of MW vs. CUSA? That's two extra games for the CUSA winner. Doesn't the NCAA frown on that? I mean, if Houston, SMU, ECU, and/or UCF bolt, that would solve that problem.

Pvt Joker: babysealclubber: They'll be accepted. Mizzou offers a large television market and there's been rumblings for about 6 months they would be the 14th member of the SEC, WVU has already been unofficially rejected due to academics.

Wow. Getting rejected by the SEC due to academics is like getting rejected by the Special Olympics because you're too retarded.

Therein lies the problem with WVU. Their academics are terribad, and if the Big East falls apart, they might not find anywhere to go. Well, anywhere with an AQ; I'm sure the Sun Belt would be thrilled to have them.

Oh, and the Big 12 can fix itself really quick. All they need is 3 of the following: Boise state, Houston, Northern Iowa, SMU, So.Miss, New Mexico, BYU, Air Force, or Wyoming. Each one brings something to table.

BigJake: Northern Iowa? Wyoming? So. Miss? lmao

Northern Iowa has been consistently good for the last decade. They belong on the FBS level. And they have a pretty good basketball program too.

Wyoming and So. Miss are stretches, but whatever.