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2011-10-18 11:11:06 AM  
God the comments on that website are TRASH The guy posting "callous disregard" has to be a troll.
 
2011-10-18 11:11:09 AM  

Wendy's Chili: ph0rk: Gaseous Anomaly: Possibly, but if that's the case we're pretty much screwed no matter what (barring some serious re-engineering of human nature, I don't see any non-Final Solution to those sorts of problems). Might as well try to have a good time in the interim then.

China's original one child per family rule made a lot of sense, you just need some mechanism in place to stop families from killing female children (less likely in western societies.... I hope).

Yeah, that would never come back to bite us in the ass when the parents' generation retired.


you have to balance it out with death panels and if that's not good enough, Carousel
 
2011-10-18 11:11:09 AM  

scubamage: Who would I get in touch with to do that?



Me too. Where do we send the stuff?
 
2011-10-18 11:11:41 AM  

ph0rk: Wendy's Chili: ph0rk: Gaseous Anomaly: Possibly, but if that's the case we're pretty much screwed no matter what (barring some serious re-engineering of human nature, I don't see any non-Final Solution to those sorts of problems). Might as well try to have a good time in the interim then.

China's original one child per family rule made a lot of sense, you just need some mechanism in place to stop families from killing female children (less likely in western societies.... I hope).

Yeah, that would never come back to bite us in the ass when the parents' generation retired.

I think that is a far better problem than the one of smacking up against the resource wall. We can afford it, we just need to adjust our priorities.


Maybe we should get our shiat together and start colonizing space instead of preparing to fight over the last scraps of Earth.
 
2011-10-18 11:12:05 AM  

Hobodeluxe: as for donations. occupywallst.org


Thanks for the Link.

The funds are going to be critical, as there will likely be an expansion of OWS to Chicago City Hall and the White House, where two of the most influential Wall Street Bankers of this Century now work.

GET THE BANKER OUT OF OBAMA'S WHITE HOUSE
 
2011-10-18 11:12:11 AM  

ph0rk: China's original one child per family rule made a lot of sense, you just need some mechanism in place to stop families from killing female children (less likely in western societies.... I hope).


We should absolutely be handing out birth control 100% subsidized to all who will take it. FFS, I would almost even offer a tax credit on top of the subsidy such that women are actually paid if they are using the pill.
 
2011-10-18 11:12:28 AM  

log_jammin: And also, I can't read the entire thread since im on my phone but did anyone else see bag dog and immediately think "do not want" dog?


Oh yes, that's been well-covered. :)
 
2011-10-18 11:12:29 AM  

topcon: Yeah, and? Does that make it a wise degree to go into debt for? Does it teach you a marketable skill or knowledge set?


Given that the school offering the degree is in England? She didn't go far into debt, if she went into debt at all for the degree. As for marketable skills? You mean the ability to retain and organize a large amount of information? The ability to notice common points in seemingly disparate data? Yeah, nothing at all marketable there.
 
2011-10-18 11:12:51 AM  

topcon: Corporate Mofo: If people want to donate, here's what they need:

FOOD: Especially gluten-free and vegan.

I almost laughed out loud when I read that. Almost. I chuckled.


Vegan is a bit over the top, but if you have Ciliac Disease you can't eat gluten. There's nothing particularly "hippy" about having Ciliac Disease.
 
2011-10-18 11:13:04 AM  

Corporate Mofo: FOOD: Especially gluten-free and vegan.


White People Protests. Sheesh. The times, they have indeed a'change'ed.

Anybody know if there's a way to order one of those Gonzo-fist 99% tshirts online (especially if it would help the cause directly)?

/ don't blame me, I am going to vote for Bag Dog
 
2011-10-18 11:13:27 AM  

CheekyMonkey: It isn't enough just to vote against the incumbent. Democrats and Republicans have traded power back and forth for so long that both are de facto incumbents. Throw off the shackles of the self-fulfilling prophecy, and vote for a third party.


Which one? The Libertarians, while well meaning, would create a power vacuum that would only be filled by corporate greed (that is, assuming you get an honest libertarian and not an embarrassed Republican like we had in 2008), the Constitution Party is the worst aspects of the Republican Party x10, the Green Party is a single-issue joke. You want me voting third party? Find me a third party worth voting for, and I'll gladly vote for it. I've been keeping an eye on Americans Elect, but so far, all they have is empty promises and platitudes.
 
2011-10-18 11:13:49 AM  

Santa's Knee: ph0rk: Santa's Knee: I pay education taxes so that the little bastards are corraled most of the day.

You could corral them just as well in a factory, and have them earning you money while you're at it.

I am thinking of the future - robots are cheaper.


I believe the children are our future. We should teach them well and let them lead the way. Show them all the beauty they possess inside and give them a sense of pride to make it easier.
 
2011-10-18 11:14:08 AM  

Shaggy_C: Labor is not a profit center. It is a cost center


Yes, but if you open an office somewhere else, you can have your money run through that office, thus lowering the amount of US based profit you report.
 
2011-10-18 11:14:29 AM  

Submitted First With a Better Headline: I'm amazed how the circular debates continue about a subject that we have a thread about every day, often with the same people.

[img444.imageshack.us image 427x502]


This should be the Boobies of every OWS from now on. The only thing more pathetic than the circular debates is the fact that I keep reading every single one of them.
 
2011-10-18 11:15:22 AM  
seadoo2006: So, why am I paying taxes for ANYONE to go to school. Fark that. I went to private schools my entire life. Why does Joe Schmo making $500,000 get to send their kids on my tax dollar? See the logical fallacy at work. The issue is you like what your taxes pay for and you don't like what your taxes pay for. You don't like that lazy people can get checks for sitting at home.

Actually I'm a minarchist, and I think that there is a pretty fair argument that people shouldn't be forced to pay for the education of their neighbor's children. If you have 5 children and I have none, and we both live in the same area and make a similar wage, the truth is I will be subsidizing you for your choices. Now with children at least as a society we say that they shouldn't be held responsible for their parents bad choices, so we pay to educate them all. we can argue about the merits of that if you want. But if you are arguing we force people to do this, so we should therefore force them to provide more, you are arguing two wrongs make a right.

You don't like welfare, I don't like taxes going to corporate tax breaks on oil companies and bailing out people who make millions on the despair of millions.

I don't like taxes going to either actually.

Why am I paying taxes on big banks getting bailouts? I can't just turn to the IRS and tell them fark no. Why am I paying for an unjust war 5000 miles from me? I don't want to pay for the Iraq war. We disagree on what the role of your tax dollars are. I want more social services to better educate and better society as a whole. Liberal arts majors maybe aren't economic successes, but the benefits of educating someone with a little more breadth of knowledge is better for us all.

I want neither banks getting bailed out nor wars in 5000 miles away.

So, where is the line drawn? Why are you against healthcare for all, but support a system that rewards abject greed and stepping on those below you. Universally provided healthcare for all and education for all should be a possibility we all have. How many millions of people could've gotten healthcare and educated for the cost of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Now tell me I can't demand we give the least among us a stronger safety net and better opportunities to help themselves. I'll be damned if I live in a society that values violence over its own populace.

Where would I draw the line? Government provides only those few functions people can't reasonable provide on their own.

This isn't wealth distribution, it's a reassessment of our priorities within our society.

You can ignore the meaning of the word all day long, but it doesn't change that it is still wealth distribution. You want to take from some to provide for others, all for your idea of the better society. Because you way opportunity for the least as more important than the rights of others to maintain the fruits of their own labors.
 
2011-10-18 11:15:37 AM  
Thank for the post and the pics Joe (and whoever else went along). I'm about as far away from Wall St as It's possible to be in the Continental US and I appreciate you folks going to check it out for me.

I especially liked seeing how well organized everything is. I have no doubt now that they will be prepared for the cold weather.
 
2011-10-18 11:15:56 AM  

LineNoise: and make it a pain in the ass for me to get lunch every day


Wall St. was a major contributing factor to the economic collapse with their bullshiat (I won't go as far as to say they single-handedly caused it). Sorry if it's a little tougher for you to go get your lunch because people are angry.

/assuming you work in finance/etc.
 
2011-10-18 11:16:02 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Does it matter? They're here now, and we're still suffering from the worst excesses.

Sometimes, it takes a while for people to wake up. I've been screaming about it too, and now I'm glad to have people to scream with me.


Does it matter, probably not but I have gone through outrage fatigue and have entered the mehh phase. Also with the 2ndary message that I keep hearing from the OWS asking for crony socialism, it keeps me from getting excited and moves me to dispondancy on why these people could not have been in the initial outrage when some real good could have been performed.
 
2011-10-18 11:16:07 AM  

pwhp_67: scubamage: Who would I get in touch with to do that?


Me too. Where do we send the stuff?


There's a Donate link on nycga.cc that includes information on their mailing address. If you're in another city the local assembly probably has a website with similar information.
 
2011-10-18 11:16:12 AM  

I_C_Weener: That "especially gluten-free and vegan" has me laughing. I can just hear some 21 year old college student demanding to be fed, and then demanding that it be dairy and egg free because she does not partake of the ovum, meat, or diary product of anything with eyes.

"Please give us food because we didn't think we'd be here long enough that we'd run out of granola. And make sure its the good tofu, not cheap crap."


Yeah, it's hilarious that people who have the moral conviction to stand for what they believe in would tend to stick to what they believe in. What cognitive dissonance! It shows a certain spirit, bravado, a touch of derring-do! How naive.
 
GOB
2011-10-18 11:16:20 AM  

LOGINGOESHERE: I mean, that is what they want, right? They want the top 1%, the people smart enough to create, invent, and use philosophies that enable them to manage their companies better than their competitors to sacrifice their virtue of gaining more money in order to help their fellow man; they want to be their equals, yet they are not their equals; they have nothing better to do with their mind than complain about how they deserve undeserved wealth.

I say that is a crock of bullshiat. Demonstrate to me a CEO or CFO who makes an obscene amount of money; one that does not deserve it due to the fact that they have no achievements to back them up. I will support you against him. I will not support you against the man that worked hard, created, innovated, and managed better.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_O%27Neal

The reason ceo salaries have gone through the roof isn't that these people are worth so much more than in past years when ceo salaries were a lot, instead of a metric farkton is due to the failure of corporate boards - not that modern ceos are so amazing and talented compared to the ones in years past.

I don't think many people are upset at Bill Gates making a crapload of money - he built the company from scratch, he earned it. The ones that most people are angry at are the psychopathic assholes that weasel their way into power and destroy a well established company for a short term gain while getting paid handsomely for it. Meanwhile the entire US economy suffers because this is going on at so many companies right now. Why any board of directors approves of a contract with a golden parachute attached is beyond me.
 
2011-10-18 11:16:33 AM  

Wendy's Chili: ph0rk: Wendy's Chili: ph0rk: Gaseous Anomaly: Possibly, but if that's the case we're pretty much screwed no matter what (barring some serious re-engineering of human nature, I don't see any non-Final Solution to those sorts of problems). Might as well try to have a good time in the interim then.

China's original one child per family rule made a lot of sense, you just need some mechanism in place to stop families from killing female children (less likely in western societies.... I hope).

Yeah, that would never come back to bite us in the ass when the parents' generation retired.

I think that is a far better problem than the one of smacking up against the resource wall. We can afford it, we just need to adjust our priorities.

Maybe we should get our shiat together and start colonizing space instead of preparing to fight over the last scraps of Earth.


Good Idea. We'd have plenty of cheese to eat on the moon!
 
2011-10-18 11:16:37 AM  

I_C_Weener: Pooping on police cars is not peaceful. Not that the poopers represent the whole.


poop. hole. eww
 
2011-10-18 11:16:41 AM  

Karma Curmudgeon: Santa's Knee: ph0rk: Santa's Knee: I pay education taxes so that the little bastards are corraled most of the day.

You could corral them just as well in a factory, and have them earning you money while you're at it.

I am thinking of the future - robots are cheaper.

I believe the children are our future. We should teach them well and let them lead the way. Show them all the beauty they possess inside and give them a sense of pride to make it easier.


Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be
Everybody searching for a hero
People need someone to look up to
I never found anyone to fulfill my needs
A lonely place to be
So I learned to depend on me
 
2011-10-18 11:17:02 AM  

HeartBurnKid: I've been keeping an eye on Americans Elect


You mean the turfroots bullshiat that Republican operative Mark McKinnon is pushing to split Obama's electorate?
 
2011-10-18 11:17:08 AM  

HeartBurnKid: CheekyMonkey: It isn't enough just to vote against the incumbent. Democrats and Republicans have traded power back and forth for so long that both are de facto incumbents. Throw off the shackles of the self-fulfilling prophecy, and vote for a third party.

Which one? The Libertarians, while well meaning, would create a power vacuum that would only be filled by corporate greed (that is, assuming you get an honest libertarian and not an embarrassed Republican like we had in 2008), the Constitution Party is the worst aspects of the Republican Party x10, the Green Party is a single-issue joke. You want me voting third party? Find me a third party worth voting for, and I'll gladly vote for it. I've been keeping an eye on Americans Elect, but so far, all they have is empty promises and platitudes.


There is another problem with voting third party. Any party that you feel comfortable voting for I wont be comfortable voting for. Hence why there is a two party system in the first place.
 
2011-10-18 11:17:14 AM  

EWreckedSean: hat it is still wealth distribution


Any economy is wealth distribution. Indeed the less things are distributed, or rather redistributed through an economy the worse it does. Money has to move, the more it moves the better for the economy.
 
2011-10-18 11:17:59 AM  

Wendy's Chili: HeartBurnKid: I've been keeping an eye on Americans Elect

You mean the turfroots bullshiat that Republican operative Mark McKinnon is pushing to split Obama's electorate?


You forgot the reverse vampires.
 
2011-10-18 11:18:26 AM  

Shaggy_C: ph0rk: China's original one child per family rule made a lot of sense, you just need some mechanism in place to stop families from killing female children (less likely in western societies.... I hope).

We should absolutely be handing out birth control 100% subsidized to all who will take it. FFS, I would almost even offer a tax credit on top of the subsidy such that women are actually paid if they are using the pill.


Yeah, I'd love to know why I actually have to pay cash money of my own to get a vasectomy.
 
2011-10-18 11:18:32 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: topcon: Corporate Mofo: If people want to donate, here's what they need:

FOOD: Especially gluten-free and vegan.

I almost laughed out loud when I read that. Almost. I chuckled.

Vegan is a bit over the top, but if you have Ciliac Disease you can't eat gluten. There's nothing particularly "hippy" about having Ciliac Disease.


Ciliac disease is so rare that I would be VERY surprised if it was that important that a small group such as OWS protester's need it. Unless there is some correlation with being a OWS protester and having Ciliac disease.

However it would be funny to send gluten loaded food in gluten free labels so you'd see them shiatting their pants in unison...
 
2011-10-18 11:18:36 AM  

Saiga410: Also with the 2ndary message that I keep hearing from the OWS asking for crony socialism,


Oh, OK. You've been watching Fox News.

Wendy's Chili: HeartBurnKid: I've been keeping an eye on Americans Elect

You mean the turfroots bullshiat that Republican operative Mark McKinnon is pushing to split Obama's electorate?


Hm. I'll have to check into that.
 
2011-10-18 11:19:04 AM  

WhyteRaven74: EWreckedSean: hat it is still wealth distribution

Any economy is wealth distribution. Indeed the less things are distributed, or rather redistributed through an economy the worse it does. Money has to move, the more it moves the better for the economy.


If you point out that police and fire departments are wealth redistribution, he rages and puts you on ignore.
 
2011-10-18 11:19:08 AM  

WhyteRaven74: topcon: Yeah, and? Does that make it a wise degree to go into debt for? Does it teach you a marketable skill or knowledge set?

Given that the school offering the degree is in England? She didn't go far into debt, if she went into debt at all for the degree. As for marketable skills? You mean the ability to retain and organize a large amount of information? The ability to notice common points in seemingly disparate data? Yeah, nothing at all marketable there.


Clearly, you haven't looked into going to school in the U.K.. I have, because I considered it at one point when I was still in college. She's a Canadian. Barring that she had a scholarship, she had to pay full price. Foreigners don't get the discount...that's why many schools in the U.K. will accept lower standards from foreign students purely because they have to pay the full price. Aside from that, the price of going to college there has been increased greatly even for citizens.

And sorry, that degree is worthless. Just because you passed the coursework alone does not make it worth the money. You're way out of the sphere of reality in the business world.
 
2011-10-18 11:19:52 AM  
I have an honest question, and I'm hoping for non-snarky reply. I graduated college without any Student loans or financial aid nor did I have a single Scholarship. I worked full time, and paid my way through. None of my friends with a Bachelor's Degree have student loans. I have friends with Medical degrees and Law degrees that have student loans, but none with a Bachelor's. Why is it that people are saying you need huge Student Loans to get a degree? I'm not trying to brag, I'm honestly curious. For those curious, I went to the University of Central Florida, graduated with a BSBA focusing in Marketing.
 
2011-10-18 11:20:07 AM  
BTW, this was kinda fun: Link (new window)

Decide whether it's a Tea Partier or an Occupier based on the picture alone.

I flunked a bunch of em.
 
2011-10-18 11:20:37 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Yes, but if you open an office somewhere else, you can have your money run through that office, thus lowering the amount of US based profit you report.


Same thing happens if you setup an offshore affiliate in the Cayman Islands. But that's still an entirely different subject than outsourcing jobs. Why are you changing the subject?
 
2011-10-18 11:21:25 AM  

A Dark Evil Omen: pwhp_67: scubamage: Who would I get in touch with to do that?


Me too. Where do we send the stuff?

There's a Donate link on nycga.cc that includes information on their mailing address. If you're in another city the local assembly probably has a website with similar information.



Thanks!
 
2011-10-18 11:21:41 AM  

superman82: I have an honest question, and I'm hoping for non-snarky reply. I graduated college without any Student loans or financial aid nor did I have a single Scholarship. I worked full time, and paid my way through. None of my friends with a Bachelor's Degree have student loans. I have friends with Medical degrees and Law degrees that have student loans, but none with a Bachelor's. Why is it that people are saying you need huge Student Loans to get a degree? I'm not trying to brag, I'm honestly curious. For those curious, I went to the University of Central Florida, graduated with a BSBA focusing in Marketing.


College is a lot more expensive than it used to be. Even state schools.
 
2011-10-18 11:21:44 AM  

Hobodeluxe:
as for donations. occupywallst.org


Woo! Thanks!
 
2011-10-18 11:21:57 AM  

WhyteRaven74: EWreckedSean: hat it is still wealth distribution

Any economy is wealth distribution. Indeed the less things are distributed, or rather redistributed through an economy the worse it does. Money has to move, the more it moves the better for the economy.


Taxes are wealth redistribution. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
 
2011-10-18 11:22:06 AM  
There are so few black people there this whole movement must be filled to the brim with racists.
 
2011-10-18 11:22:16 AM  

andrewskdr: Ciliac disease is so rare that I would be VERY surprised if it was that important that a small group such as OWS protester's need it. Unless there is some correlation with being a OWS protester and having Ciliac disease.


I know three people with Ciliac disease. It's not that rare, and there are a ton of people at these protests.

However it would be funny to send gluten loaded food in gluten free labels so you'd see them shiatting their pants in unison...

Yeah, let's distribute fake insulin to diabetes patients too, how awesome would that be???
 
2011-10-18 11:22:32 AM  
OWS is an admirable movement but that blog sucks dick.
 
2011-10-18 11:22:48 AM  

superman82: I have an honest question, and I'm hoping for non-snarky reply. I graduated college without any Student loans or financial aid nor did I have a single Scholarship. I worked full time, and paid my way through. None of my friends with a Bachelor's Degree have student loans. I have friends with Medical degrees and Law degrees that have student loans, but none with a Bachelor's. Why is it that people are saying you need huge Student Loans to get a degree? I'm not trying to brag, I'm honestly curious. For those curious, I went to the University of Central Florida, graduated with a BSBA focusing in Marketing.


Most school tuition is so high that it can't be paid for by working. Well, unless you're working a very well paying job, and that's not likely at that age. Some degrees can be gotten from cheaper school, but some can't, so many people find themselves stuck with loans to get the job done.
 
2011-10-18 11:22:59 AM  

andrewskdr: Ciliac disease is so rare that I would be VERY surprised if it was that important that a small group such as OWS protester's need it. Unless there is some correlation with being a OWS protester and having Ciliac disease.

However it would be funny to send gluten loaded food in gluten free labels so you'd see them shiatting their pants in unison...


What would be funny is if you loaded the food up with arsenic, so while they protest they suddenly start frothing at the mouth, convulsing, and vomit until they die. That would be farking hilarious! And the ones with a strong enough constitution not to die outright would have their cardiovascular system ravaged, leaving them likely to have strokes or heart attacks at a young age. That would get a lot of hits on Youtube.
 
2011-10-18 11:23:17 AM  

topcon: Corporate Mofo: If people want to donate, here's what they need:

FOOD: Especially gluten-free and vegan.

I almost laughed out loud when I read that. Almost. I chuckled.


It is amazing......
 
2011-10-18 11:23:51 AM  

Wendy's Chili: What the f*ck does this even mean?

Demonization of the government is a big part of how shiat got this way. We need to embrace the role of government and hold them accountable. Saying "government is the problem" or throwing up your hands in frustration only increases the power of special interests.


It means that you cannot expect things like the New Deal or War on Poverty to come out of this generation of politicians. I'm not demonising the government, I'm pointing out whose interests they serve - which in any case should be quite obvious by now. How are you going to "hold the government accountable"? You don't have any money, all you get to do is tick a box every few years to help decide which corporate stooge you get to see on your television. The protesters are right to occupy Wall Street and not Washington - they know where the real power lies.

It's really sad seeing the conservatism of so many people on the left who want to return to the good old days of the post-war period and think that the welfare state and labour unionism are still effective strategies in today's world. At the very least they are conservative forces, not progressive ones, as in they are trying to hold onto and reclaim the good old days of yore. It's true that the protesters don't have a coherent agenda, but that's because nobody knows how to proceed from here. They know what is wrong, but they don't know how to fix it. Sadly, right now, nobody does.
 
2011-10-18 11:24:06 AM  

PopeBadass: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: It's nice that you tards finally decided to wake the fark up.

/it's a little too late, tards

///about 50 years too late

///buh-bye, the U. S. of A...... buh bye

////Laughing OL as these tards think they can change anything

/\\\\everything and everyone was already bought off before you were even a gleam in you babby's momma's eye

//\\\\ Wall Street has ripped the eyes from your sockets and pissed down your skulls and you all still too stupid to realize it

/am I supposed to be part of the 1%??????

//or am I supposed to be part of the 99%?????

///or am I supposed to be for the 53%'ers??????

////or am I supposed to be against the 53%'ers?

\////ONLY TIME WILL TELL

i was told there would be no math

/am probably a part of the 1%

//doesn't give a fark

///game over, dude; game over

Well, that was... useful?


Meth is one hell of a drug.
 
2011-10-18 11:24:21 AM  
fark it. Political change comes from the barrel of a gun.
 
2011-10-18 11:24:41 AM  

archichris: Arbitrary socialist fantasies like a 40 hour work week and the welfare state are the reason that debt exists.


Fantasies? You mean every first world country that has better work compensation than just the 40 hour week and a larger welfare state?
Keep crying crocodile tears about us not letting you turn this country into a third world hellhole full of slaves. You farking fascist.
 
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