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2011-10-18 09:56:03 AM
OWS vs teabaggers.

i52.tinypic.com

t3.gstatic.com
 
2011-10-18 09:56:21 AM

PanicMan: This is why they are able to keep this going indefinitely.
[farm7.static.flickr.com image 500x375]

/Stolen from chris


It's telling that they don't schedule anything before 10am.
 
2011-10-18 09:56:44 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Man, bag dog is awesome. Need more pictures.


This is the only other one I've got.

farm7.static.flickr.com

sweetmelissa31: make me some tea: Bag dog was really cute. He liked his ears scritched. :)

I just hope you didn't try to give him a plate of broccoli.


hahaha
 
2011-10-18 09:57:12 AM

HAMMERTOE: It can't simply be "tax (eat) the rich, because that would be akin to killing off the bumblebee, which is responsible for pollinating the overwhelming majority of the food we eat.


Sorry but taxing and eating aren't the same thing.

And there have been a number of lists of "demands" (some more absurd than others). A return to the Glass-Steagall Act was a very reasonable one.


starsrift: So why occupy wall street and not Washington, DC, or their congresspeople's offices?


Too partisan. Too hard to get too. Less media coverage.
 
2011-10-18 09:57:31 AM
I see a lot of well-off people wearing nice clothes and carrying around nice things while eating stuff they bought with their money from the local stores and street vendors.
 
2011-10-18 09:58:15 AM

MilesTeg: periodically, and a few of the more southern / midwestern types would yell "GOD BLESS AMERICA!" or "DIRTY HIPPIES!"

Nothing like leftwing bigotry. Hypocrisy much?

What exactly is a "southern/midwestern" type? I'm sure many of the liberal farkers who live in the Midwest and South appreciate your stereotyping.

And we ALL know only the most intelligent and enlightened live in NYC...


It's not like southerners and midwesterners have a distinctive accent, right?

And if you're going to complain about stereotyping, why not complain about the people stereotyping the protesters as atheists and hippies?
 
2011-10-18 09:58:28 AM
Ahh, screwed up my post. Sorry Bob16, I misread your post earlier. I thought you meant protest did nothing to change public opinion in the 60s. Then I remembered how to read again. I meant to delete that bit of the post.
 
2011-10-18 09:58:55 AM
survivingstudenthood.files.wordpress.com
And we're done.
 
2011-10-18 09:59:13 AM

Errk: I didn't say it hadn't been peaceful. I simply disagreed with the statement that "They cannot be made to leave so long as the company that owns the property allows them to stay".


Be very careful to not say anything that might be construed as against "The Movement".
 
2011-10-18 09:59:49 AM

archichris: [derp derp derp]

For instance, if you were to invest $100 with compounding interest at a rate of 9% per annum, the rule of 72 gives 72/9 = 8 years required for the investment to be worth $200; an exact calculation gives 8.0432 years.

[derp derp derp]


DOW today: 11397.00

DOW 8 years ago: 9721.79

S&P today: 1193.38

S&P 8 years ago: 1039.32

Nasdaq today: 2591.80

Nasdaq 8 years ago: 1912.36
 
2011-10-18 10:00:13 AM

RabidDog: LlamaGirl: I want to go there but I can't afford to.

Free socks and underpants!

Awesome photos!


I was gonna go to Occupy Oakland, but I can't get the time off work.
 
2011-10-18 10:00:21 AM
What exactly is a "southern/midwestern" type?

A rube.
 
2011-10-18 10:00:24 AM

PanicMan: This is why they are able to keep this going indefinitely.
[farm7.static.flickr.com image 500x375]

/Stolen from chris


Of course they are organized, they're union.

And a chalk board will not stop winter.

And:
img829.imageshack.us
 
2011-10-18 10:00:25 AM

make me some tea: Absolutely. I've been saying it for years, there are too many damn people on the Earth. That's a big part of the problem. When I was born 37 ago, there was something like what, 4 or 5 billion here? Now we're pushing 7 billion and the rate is accelerating. We're in a population bubble. Happens all the time in nature, we're not immune to its effects.


I saw a great TED video on this problem a while back, if you can find it I think you might like it.
 
2011-10-18 10:00:27 AM

watson.t.hamster: Confabulat: I understand why normal Americans might want to protest Wall Street billionaires.

But I sure as hell can't figure out why normal Americans want to DEFEND Wall Street billionaires.

Because anyone who disagrees with these people is de facto supporting Wallstreet? You can't simply stay home, make fun of these folks, then vote for people who won't keep sending public money to Wallstreet?

Well I guess that makes sense. You're either with them or against them, right?


If you're going out of your way to mock and deride these protestors, yes, you are supporting Wall Street.

Why you want to do that, the emotional investment that you've clearly made to make you WANT to support Wall Street billionaires over regular Americans, that you'd have to explain to me.
 
2011-10-18 10:00:48 AM
Amazing that it's the Colombians and Koreans who are showing up to protest more asinine free trade deals. The brainwashed Americans ignore them, even though it's the primary cause of this nation's ills.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:04 AM

archichris: For instance, if you were to invest $100 with compounding interest at a rate of 9% per annum


Where the hell are you getting 9% interest? the DJIA is about the same place it was 10 years ago.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:08 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Bagdog frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:25 AM
Well, I didn't know they were handing out food. No wonder they stick around.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:28 AM

discgolfguru: Bob16: it's especially funny when you are old enough to have been one of those hippies that the right wingers were yelling at. It was totally ineffective at stopping the anti war movement back then too.

I think you are vastly underestimating the effect of public protest.
shArkh: Ah, If only Charlie Chaplin were there. (new window / The Great Dictator Speech)

Awesome link. I still can't figure out what the hell is going on at 2:03, though.


The guy who vanishes in a cloud of dust is a ninja. What more do you need to know? Ninjas are awesome.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:43 AM

nekom: Changing the very nature of humans is beyond the reach of anyone. It would be like protesting in an effort to get the sun to rise in the west.


You propose that the industrial way of life is human nature - an unchangeable, built-in feature of our species. That is not true. At its core, Homo sapiens sapiens is a nomad, also existing in dynamic equilibrium with the environment. It is our model of civilization that is unnatural. There are examples of civilized human societies that have lived sustainably for long periods of time in various environments - a happy medium between nomadism and the current model of suicide by overconsumption. These should be studied, not only as guides to the way forward, but also as object lessons in humility and restraint. If humans don't restrain themselves and their appetites in a conscious way, nature will do it for them in a brutal, chaotic way in the fullness of time, and much of value will be lost - thrown out with the garbage via the reimposition of biological reality on our species.
 
2011-10-18 10:01:50 AM

nutkick_42: Wendy's Chili:
You're right. There's no political solution.

...other than hippie shiat like investment in alternative energy and tariffs on goods from countries with poor labor and environmental standards.

But yeah, other than listening to those tree-hugging progressives, there is absolutely nothing we can do. We may as well stay home next November and let the anti-abortionists and gun nutters pick our leaders.

You've highlighted my problem. I'm all for alternative energy and tariffs on unethical countries, but I'm against infanticide and believe that unarmed citizens are nothing more than subjects.

/WHAR MY POLITICAL PARTY, WHAR?


Oh, so you'd be cool with your wife/mother/sister/daughter being forced to have a rapists child? Forced breeding is ok in your book?

Also, gun rights have been expanded under this administration.
 
2011-10-18 10:02:01 AM
I have enough money to not care that I don't have enough money to influence government. But I do agree with the lady with the mortgage-backed security poster.
 
2011-10-18 10:02:09 AM

make me some tea: Absolutely. I've been saying it for years, there are too many damn people on the Earth. That's a big part of the problem. When I was born 37 ago, there was something like what, 4 or 5 billion here? Now we're pushing 7 billion and the rate is accelerating. We're in a population bubble. Happens all the time in nature, we're not immune to its effects.


Yeah, but more people = more production and consumption = larger economy. There's not a fixed-size pile of dollars that are divvied up (yet; glances nervously in the direction of RON PAUL).

We could certainly run into limits on natural resources, lebensraum, etc., but that seems quite a ways off. Energy may be a challenge; the sooner we can get some more abundant sources of energy than dinosaur juice in wide usage the better.

As the developing world gets richer we can expect birthrates to drop (as they do everywhere when people move away from subsistence farming). I don't know the real projections though.
 
2011-10-18 10:02:28 AM

tillerman35: I see a lot of well-off people wearing nice clothes and carrying around nice things while eating stuff they bought with their money from the local stores and street vendors.


Those are the tourists and journalists.
 
2011-10-18 10:02:31 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: OWS vs teabaggers.

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I'd occupy her wall street....the upper one, not the lower one....

...the lower one though, I'd fix her old with my new.
 
2011-10-18 10:02:50 AM
Great photo essay Joe - I
 
2011-10-18 10:03:35 AM
oops - I heart Bag Dog
 
2011-10-18 10:03:40 AM

Shaggy_C: even though it's the primary cause of this nation's ills.


No it's not.
 
2011-10-18 10:03:58 AM

HeartBurnKid: archichris: HeartBurnKid: archichris: Sorry Joe, but im working overtime + since my wife lost her job. Based on the amount of public money being wasted on police presence there I guess I should pull an extra few hours this week just to cover the interest on the debt that will be borrowed to comp NYC.

So, what you're saying is that you're working a ton of overtime just to scrape by? And yet you still don't think there's a problem with the system?
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Our ancestors fought for the 40-hour work week. It's depressing to see how many people are willing to throw it all away.

Arbitrary numbers assigned to faceless robots dont interest me. I work because I have responsibilities. I have responsibilities because I accepted them to support my family. I support my family because Im a dad. I chose to be a dad for all the right reasons.

Going home at night to tell your kids that the economy sucks and they are saddled with crippling debt before they even graduate high school sucks. Arbitrary socialist fantasies like a 40 hour work week and the welfare state are the reason that debt exists. You cannot subsidize everyone to that extent and expect anything to work....makes you sound like one of the perpetual motion noobs who talks about connecting an electric motor to an alternator for free electricity......IE every-time a dollar circulates through the welfare state it loses a few percent of its economic impact or power. If you don't inject more power into the system it grinds to a halt. That "power" which must be injected into the system has to come from an ever smaller group of people like me. So we have a choice.....give up and consign our children to the generosity of the state, or work harder and longer to keep them our of that humanity destroying trap.

I chose my path when I realized all the liberalism I soaked up in college wasnt going to work in the real world. You are free to choose yours, I'll clock an extra hour next year so you can get a subsidy or something.

Oh, I've got no problem with you working a few extra hours. But those extra hours should get you ahead; it shouldn't be just to keep food on the table and the lights on. Or you should be able to spend those extra hours with your kid and not have to worry about it. IMHO, if you can't support yourself and a small family on one professional- or tradesman-level job with a reasonable amount of work hours, something has gone terribly pear-shaped somewhere.

And no, I don't collect any government subsidies. I've got a decent (if not great) job with a salary, I own my house, and I've got the basics covered. However, my salary's been frozen for two years now because of the economy, and several of my best friends at work got laid off because of the economy. Meanwhile, the freaking banks go hat-in-hand to Washington and beg for money, and get it because they're "too big to fail" (never mind that they only got "too big to fail" because the regulations expressly aimed at preventing it were repealed at their behest). They get my tax dollars, and they immediately hand it over to their execs so they can buy more ivory backscratchers or whatever. And what happens to make sure that we don't have another "too big to fail" situation in the future?

NOTHING.

NOT A GOD DAMN THING.

You want to complain about people living on subsidies, you should be out there protesting the banks too. They've been living on your tax money ever since 2008.


I did protest the bailout and TARP. Back when the Tea Party did it the first time.....March of 2009.

Lets agree that we made incorrect assumptions about each other shall we? I work the extra time because I am keeping our income as level as I can so my family can maintain its level of lifestyle. I manage a family business, so I am also protecting the combined retirement investment of my parents and siblings. Most small business people are doing the same thing I am right now.

Thats why it grates on us so much that we are expected to supply the taxes to solve the problem. The definition of "rich" has been dumbed down t the point that we are now in that classification despite the fact that we are the "middle" class. I fully expect that I will be among those singled out as the next problem after the left gets done with wall street. There simply isnt enough money around to keep the poor happy, but the left will keep trying until we are all poor.

In the mean time I am doing what all entrepreneurs do, I am trying outside the box to increase my income through investment into a product related to my industry. Im investing my free time into its development, and I work on it with my kids evenings and weekends. If it succeeds it will bring extra income into my home. That increase in income will have come from my own ingenuity and hard work and I will be pilloried for it by the left eventually. Thats the nature of the beast. They must attack success to protect themselves from being revealed as nothing more than intellectual leeches on the system.
 
2011-10-18 10:04:39 AM

MilesTeg: What exactly is a "southern/midwestern" type? I'm sure many of the liberal farkers who live in the Midwest and South appreciate your stereotyping.

see comment above yours

ProudRedneck: Not a lot of black faces in the mob. Using lib guidelines that label Tea Party rally's, ows is full of racism and hatred.
Should've taken some photos of a thermometer and the exits. When the temp drops the children will start heading home to the caregivers. Having accomplished nothing.



There are plenty of redneck, ignorant and conservative types in the South. It's not a stereotype, it's a fact.
 
2011-10-18 10:04:59 AM
tshirtgroove.com
 
2011-10-18 10:05:08 AM

I did protest the bailout and TARP.


You're a bad liar.
 
2011-10-18 10:05:25 AM

Jake Havechek: What exactly is a "southern/midwestern" type?

A rube.


What midwestern rubes may look like (Occupy Chicago):

images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2011-10-18 10:05:28 AM

colithian: make me some tea: shivashakti: Unfreakable: Damn. We did manage to connect with make me some tea and hung out with him for a while.

Sweet! Yeah, I didn't find out about him going until later. Oh well.

A few other Farkers were also at Times Square in the evening, which I found out about later. I missed that party, kinda on purpose.

Here's my set of sorta crappy pics. Link (new window)

One of my favorite ones. These guys were debating climate change, among other topics:

[i.imgur.com image 640x480]
Something you'll never see at a Tea Party rally: black people.


And people wonder why the right doesn't support OWS.
 
2011-10-18 10:05:43 AM
Now, I like the movement and the attention it has brought to an issue that has been ignored for the last 30 years or so. Rich richer, poor poorer, etc.

But I can't help but look at those pictures and see a bunch of hippies or people that don't seem to be in the actual workforce. Now, I know they are pushing a valid message and there a lot of people there that come and leave for the day, but when I see those pictures I can see how the Right downplays the message coming out.

I wish a more consistent and cohesive message could be shared. It's like they have the media sitting in the audience and on stage there's 50 people shouting 25 different things rather than one person sending a clear and concise message.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:11 AM

PanicMan: archichris: For instance, if you were to invest $100 with compounding interest at a rate of 9% per annum

Where the hell are you getting 9% interest? the DJIA is about the same place it was 10 years ago.


"Heres something some other less dense person figured out.....

"Since 1900 (end-of-year 1899), through 2010, I estimate the average total return/year of the DJIA (Dow Jones Industrial Average) was approximately 9.4% -- 4.8% in price appreciation, plus approx 4.7% in dividends. (Some numbers won't add up due to rounding.)"

Lets just grab that number, 9.4%.....

72 divided by 9.4 = 7.65 years to double if none of the money were used to pay for anything.

9.4% of 500k is $47,000 average interest per year.

$9000 education
$3600 rent assistance
$3600 food assistance
$2400 for books, supplies, etc....
$2400 for healthcare insurance for one child

Leaves $26,000 per year in unspent interest which remain in the account.

Thats 55% of the money remaining. So 55% of 9.4 is 5.2 which is the actual interest rate that compounds in the first year. Im going to admit that my skillz at math this late at night are not up to computing the actual growth of the account as the interest increases and the costs remain more or less stable, so I will just plug 5.2% into the rule of 72 for simplicities sake....

72/5.2= 13.8 years to double. So when the kid turns say 24 after paying for college it is not impossible that he will have doubled the money once and almost twice for a total near $2,000,000 in his account.

SO he pays back $500k and still has $1.5 million to invest at his own direction to produce interest to pay his health insurance and save for retirement.

But he also has a private education, a college education, full health coverage since birth, enough money for a decent apartment and good nutrition etc.....

All the things that Liberals claim is important and must be taxed from the rich to provide.....

Well there you go, i have given you a way to give it to the kids, you just have to give up on welfare and admit they will be better off investing for their future....."
 
2011-10-18 10:06:11 AM
Good job Tony and Joe with the on the scene Fark reports. Would read again.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:14 AM

canyoneer: You propose that the industrial way of life is human nature - an unchangeable, built-in feature of our species. That is not true. At its core, Homo sapiens sapiens is a nomad, also existing in dynamic equilibrium with the environment. It is our model of civilization that is unnatural. There are examples of civilized human societies that have lived sustainably for long periods of time in various environments - a happy medium between nomadism and the current model of suicide by overconsumption. These should be studied, not only as guides to the way forward, but also as object lessons in humility and restraint. If humans don't restrain themselves and their appetites in a conscious way, nature will do it for them in a brutal, chaotic way in the fullness of time, and much of value will be lost - thrown out with the garbage via the reimposition of biological reality on our species.


I don't disagree at all, but modern society has sort of taken on a life of its own, even evolving in a way. But the difference is that "Make politicians make this decision!" is something within the realm of possibility, while "Make everyone on Earth not be stupid and think about things!" is just a pipe dream. Because most people don't WANT to think about things like that.These people aren't after some utopian new way of life out of a science fiction movie, they're mad about the economy, and rightfully so. Sure there are bigger problems out there, but they really can't be solved.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:17 AM

trappedspirit: Well, I didn't know they were handing out food. No wonder they stick around.


Come for the food, stay for the underwear and deodorant.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:28 AM

mbillips: I don't really see this as "doing something." It's more like "hanging out." When your message seems to be "I don't have enough money because bankers," without any clear proposed solutions, people are going to sneer at you and call you childish. This is more active than putting a green banner on your Facebook page, but it's still slacktivism.


Judging from most of those "99 percent" signs I've read, it's more " because I made stupid decisions and now I'm in huge debt."

Most non-Gen-Y'ers see this for what it is.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:39 AM

ThighsofGlory: RabidDog: LlamaGirl: I want to go there but I can't afford to.

Free socks and underpants!

Awesome photos!

I was gonna go to Occupy Oakland, but I can't get the time off work.


Perhaps you should aim for a better job with more vacation time. I know it'll be hard, but I'm sure with a sufficient pair of boots straps you can make it work.
 
2011-10-18 10:06:44 AM
I find the amount of rage against the protests amusing. Not simple "what a waste of time" but THOSE LOSERS ARE COMMUNISTS level wharrbargle.

Generally, unless you actually live in and around an area where a major one is going on it won't impact you (which must be true if the "they'll accomplish nothing" wharrbargle is true).

So.... why the rage?
 
2011-10-18 10:06:58 AM
I was there Saturday afternoon during an impromptu trip from Cleveland Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon. The protest is HUGE and these pictures don't even give it justice. Saturday evening, they also were marching on Times Square ... Here's a few that I took:

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2011-10-18 10:07:24 AM
EWreckedSean: And people wonder why the right doesn't support OWS.

because they're idiots?
Because Fox News told them not to?
Because socialism?
Because Blood for the Blood God?
 
2011-10-18 10:07:27 AM

archichris: And yes I know this is horribly simplified, it is just a mental exercise to prove the point that investment is better than welfare. If as a nation we had tried this instead of the very first welfare check...imagine where your children would be today......


Part of the problem, though, is what to do in the interim.

For example, Social Security isn't a savings program; today's taxes pay today's beneficiaries.

So if we wanted to replace Social Security with some kind of savings program (without kicking existing beneficiaries to the curb), then we'd have a double cost for one generation: funding both the savings plans of children and the current benefits of old folks.
 
2011-10-18 10:07:31 AM

mbillips: I don't really see this as "doing something." It's more like "hanging out." When your message seems to be "I don't have enough money because bankers," without any clear proposed solutions, people are going to sneer at you and call you childish. This is more active than putting a green banner on your Facebook page, but it's still slacktivism.


A long enough protest is bound to have leaders/spokespeople rise up from it. Hopefully these will be the right people and not publicity whores. The movement is good and positive, but needs cohesion, one voice to speak for it.
 
2011-10-18 10:07:36 AM

Confabulat: If you're going out of your way to mock and deride these protestors, yes, you are supporting Wall Street.

Why you want to do that, the emotional investment that you've clearly made to make you WANT to support Wall Street billionaires over regular Americans, that you'd have to explain to me.


I'll explain it for you: Most people's politics, left or right, are defined by what they hate, not what they believe.

In this case, the hatred is for the "dirty hippies." It doesn't really matter what they're protesting.

I've seen many "small government conservatives" who are against drug legalization because they hate the "dirty hippies".

In American politics, hatred will always trump beliefs.
 
2011-10-18 10:07:55 AM

Gaseous Anomaly: Yeah, but more people = more production and consumption = larger economy. There's not a fixed-size pile of dollars that are divvied up (yet; glances nervously in the direction of RON PAUL).

We could certainly run into limits on natural resources, lebensraum, etc., but that seems quite a ways off. Energy may be a challenge; the sooner we can get some more abundant sources of energy than dinosaur juice in wide usage the better.

As the developing world gets richer we can expect birthrates to drop (as they do everywhere when people move away from subsistence farming). I don't know the real projections though.


Everything has its limits, nature itself sets them. We can push it with technology and we are, but I don't see that as limitless either.

As canyoneer said, something fundamental is going to have to change, and soon. It is no longer realistic to operate as a growth-based society and it's going to be a painful process coming to that realization, but ultimately it will be for the better. It's disconcerting to think about, but this is how I'm viewing things anymore. And no, I don't have any solutions either.
 
2011-10-18 10:08:11 AM

archichris: HeartBurnKid: archichris: HeartBurnKid: archichris: Sorry Joe, but im working overtime + since my wife lost her job. Based on the amount of public money being wasted on police presence there I guess I should pull an extra few hours this week just to cover the interest on the debt that will be borrowed to comp NYC.

So, what you're saying is that you're working a ton of overtime just to scrape by? And yet you still don't think there's a problem with the system?
65
Our ancestors fought for the 40-hour work week. It's depressing to see how many people are willing to throw it all away.

Arbitrary numbers assigned to faceless robots dont interest me. I work because I have responsibilities. I have responsibilities because I accepted them to support my family. I support my family because Im a dad. I chose to be a dad for all the right reasons.

Going home at night to tell your kids that the economy sucks and they are saddled with crippling debt before they even graduate high school sucks. Arbitrary socialist fantasies like a 40 hour work week and the welfare state are the reason that debt exists. You cannot subsidize everyone to that extent and expect anything to work....makes you sound like one of the perpetual motion noobs who talks about connecting an electric motor to an alternator for free electricity......IE every-time a dollar circulates through the welfare state it loses a few percent of its economic impact or power. If you don't inject more power into the system it grinds to a halt. That "power" which must be injected into the system has to come from an ever smaller group of people like me. So we have a choice.....give up and consign our children to the generosity of the state, or work harder and longer to keep them our of that humanity destroying trap.

I chose my path when I realized all the liberalism I soaked up in college wasnt going to work in the real world. You are free to choose yours, I'll clock an extra hour next year so you can get a subsidy or something.

Oh, I've got no problem with you working a few extra hours. But those extra hours should get you ahead; it shouldn't be just to keep food on the table and the lights on. Or you should be able to spend those extra hours with your kid and not have to worry about it. IMHO, if you can't support yourself and a small family on one professional- or tradesman-level job with a reasonable amount of work hours, something has gone terribly pear-shaped somewhere.

And no, I don't collect any government subsidies. I've got a decent (if not great) job with a salary, I own my house, and I've got the basics covered. However, my salary's been frozen for two years now because of the economy, and several of my best friends at work got laid off because of the economy. Meanwhile, the freaking banks go hat-in-hand to Washington and beg for money, and get it because they're "too big to fail" (never mind that they only got "too big to fail" because the regulations expressly aimed at preventing it were repealed at their behest). They get my tax dollars, and they immediately hand it over to their execs so they can buy more ivory backscratchers or whatever. And what happens to make sure that we don't have another "too big to fail" situation in the future?

NOTHING.

NOT A GOD DAMN THING.

You want to complain about people living on subsidies, you should be out there protesting the banks too. They've been living on your tax money ever since 2008.

I did protest the bailout and TARP. Back when the Tea Party did it the first time.....March of 2009.

Lets agree that we made incorrect assumptions about each other shall we? I work the extra time because I am keeping our income as level as I can so my family can maintain its level of lifestyle. I manage a family business, so I am also protecting the combined retirement investment of my parents and siblings. Most small business people are doing the same thing I am right now.

Thats why it grates on us so much that we are expected to supply the taxes to solve the problem. The definition of "rich" has been dumbed down t the point ...


The left is going to go after you next? My ass.

The right is going after you RIGHT NOW.
 
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