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2011-10-18 10:40:24 AM
[reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.
 
2011-10-18 11:03:29 AM
Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.


"There's a bad thing! We don't know what, but it's there! And no one believes us! We'll show them." -Coupled with "Ancient, extinct civilization left clues as to what doomed them, and it's up to you to figure it out."

But, I like it.

The combat isn't really FPS-like. It's more like Gears of War, with tactical considerations (in the harder difficulties). I mean, you need to know how to aim, but you don't need to be bunny-hopping and no-scoping to win. You can pause to issue orders and activate abilities. which is nice.

In ME1, ability cooldowns generally aren't linked, but they're long (1min+ each). ME2, ALL of your abilities are linked to the same cooldown, but it's short (6 seconds? it's been a while), with your companions having double that.
 
2011-10-18 11:06:54 AM
Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

Also, the Omni-Tools in the game are holographic projections from an emitter on your arm, that react to physical interaction to do things. What things, I don't know. Call for pizza? Automatically hack enemies? That kind of thing.

media.giantbomb.com
 
2011-10-18 12:50:47 PM
Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.


FPS isn't really a good description, as other people have pointed out. It's more third-person + a really good story and characters, which only gets better by the time you play the second game.

On that note, this is cool, but wake me when I can get a lapdance from one of those asari
 
2011-10-18 12:51:44 PM
Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.


I'm not a fan of FPS either, but the gameplay is good and engaging. It's not frenetic and ADHD-brained like some. I'd recommend it even if you don't like FPS.
 
2011-10-18 12:53:51 PM
Picoprojector and a finger tracker? How revolutionary.

Wait, what's this? Three years ago (new window), you say?
 
2011-10-18 12:55:02 PM
Am I the only one who didn't like Mass Effect?
 
2011-10-18 12:56:43 PM
ProfessorOhki: Picoprojector and a finger tracker? How revolutionary.

Wait, what's this? Three years ago (new window), you say?


That wasn't body mounted and body projected. Welcome to to the incremental evolution of technology

/To put that further, the last time Billy G did a CES keynote, he showed off something like what you linked to. This isn't new, but it's a step up from what was around before, even if it's only a small step
 
2011-10-18 12:57:25 PM
ProfessorOhki: Picoprojector and a finger tracker? How revolutionary.

Wait, what's this? Three years ago (new window), you say?


I guess that one might have been concept art, here, have another (new window) and a few dozen in the related.
 
2011-10-18 12:57:41 PM
Do want
 
2011-10-18 01:00:57 PM
the_sidewinder: ProfessorOhki: Picoprojector and a finger tracker? How revolutionary.

Wait, what's this? Three years ago (new window), you say?

That wasn't body mounted and body projected. Welcome to to the incremental evolution of technology

/To put that further, the last time Billy G did a CES keynote, he showed off something like what you linked to. This isn't new, but it's a step up from what was around before, even if it's only a small step


Sticking the assembly to someone's shoulder is not pretty much the smallest increment then. If the Kinect could get decent readings within 6' of its lens, you'd have seen dozens of these online things already.
 
2011-10-18 01:01:28 PM
kingoomieiii: Also, the Omni-Tools in the game are holographic projections from an emitter on your arm, that react to physical interaction to do things. What things, I don't know. Call for pizza? Automatically hack enemies? That kind of thing.

And now you'll be able to shank anyone with the all new Omni-Blade!

www.esperino.com

I am so pumped for this game! The ME franchise is easily one of my favorites. Not simply because of gameplay, but they mythos surrounding the universe is so amazing. Everything has a backstory, explanation, or reason for existing, and very little contradictions for such an expansive universe. Yes they get around the 'applied phlebotinum' with Element Zero, but how else are you going to explain ships being able to cross entire sections of the galaxy in a couple hours?

Conversations are great, and replayability is fantastic. I have 5 playthroughs on my ME2 just so I have all the options available for importing on ME3. Even my girlfriend loves this game, and she had never picked up a controller in her life. She's a renegade-Shep and gets a kick out pistol whipping people in conversation.
 
2011-10-18 01:03:18 PM
Nerd rage: Do you people even understand what FPS stands for? FPS is a terrible description for Mass Effect because the game isn't even in the first person perspective. Granted, it is basically a shooter, but it is very story driven.
 
2011-10-18 01:05:59 PM
Farkn Yaj Yenrac: Nerd rage: Do you people even understand what FPS stands for? FPS is a terrible description for Mass Effect because the game isn't even in the first person perspective. Granted, it is basically a shooter, but it is very story driven.

It's a tactical, squad-based shooter, with turn-based elements. If you liked KOTOR, you'll like Mass Effect. Unless you hate scifi and inexplicably slavic-accented alien waifus.
 
2011-10-18 01:06:29 PM
ProfessorOhki: Sticking the assembly to someone's shoulder is not pretty much the smallest increment then. If the Kinect could get decent readings within 6' of its lens, you'd have seen dozens of these online things already.

You also missed that the thing MS showed off here has to track the projection surface, where your linked devices don't
 
2011-10-18 01:07:31 PM
Farkn Yaj Yenrac: Nerd rage: Do you people even understand what FPS stands for? FPS is a terrible description for Mass Effect because the game isn't even in the first person perspective. Granted, it is basically a shooter, but it is very story driven.

And FPS has become a catch-all for shooters, where "shooting" is the main interaction mechanic in the game. It's dumb, but there you go.
 
2011-10-18 01:08:51 PM
That's great, but how will it work with porn? I'm just asking questions.
 
2011-10-18 01:10:53 PM
kingoomieiii: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: Nerd rage: Do you people even understand what FPS stands for? FPS is a terrible description for Mass Effect because the game isn't even in the first person perspective. Granted, it is basically a shooter, but it is very story driven.

And FPS has become a catch-all for shooters, where "shooting" is the main interaction mechanic in the game. It's dumb, but there you go.


Which is funny because it's one of the few games where you don't even have to pull a trigger once and can still beat it.You can play the entire game as a pacifist and just have your squadmates kill for you.
 
2011-10-18 01:11:48 PM
scottydoesntknow: Which is funny because it's one of the few games where you don't even have to pull a trigger once and can still beat it.You can play the entire game as a pacifist and just have your squadmates kill for you.

Or only use biotics and tech abilities
 
2011-10-18 01:12:07 PM
Honest Bender: Am I the only one who didn't like Mass Effect?

Oh, you're the one.
 
2011-10-18 01:13:08 PM
scottydoesntknow: Element Zero

I love everything about this cop-out. I mean, is it any less believable than wormholes, or a particular energy level or frequency of vibration opening a dimensional rift to a compressed "subspace?"

A material that reacts to an electrical charge to alter the effect of mass in a given space, allowing a ship to be propelled forward as though it weighed less than nothing. Or increase its weight explonentially, to create a localized gravity well. Which is an ability that Biotics (people capable, with the use of implants, of manipulating Element Zero on their own) can learn.

Apparently relativistic time-dilation doesn't affect things moving FASTER than the speed of light in this particular universe, but hey.
 
2011-10-18 01:16:43 PM
scottydoesntknow: You can play the entire game as a pacifist and just have your squadmates kill for you.

Is there an "Extra Easy" difficulty I'm not aware of? Squadmates aren't very good at getting away from AOEs or LOSing goliaths.
 
2011-10-18 01:19:02 PM
Honest Bender: Am I the only one who didn't like Mass Effect?

Yes
 
2011-10-18 01:22:13 PM
kingoomieiii: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: Nerd rage: Do you people even understand what FPS stands for? FPS is a terrible description for Mass Effect because the game isn't even in the first person perspective. Granted, it is basically a shooter, but it is very story driven.

And FPS has become a catch-all for shooters, where "shooting" is the main interaction mechanic in the game. It's dumb, but there you go.


Well exceeeeeuuuuuse me!

It has guns You aim and shoot at things. My vantage point is stuck to my controlled character.. it seems pretty FPSish to me. No matter what genre label you want to use, I haven't been able to get around it enough to be able to get very far in the game, which was my point.

All the genres and sub-genres of game mechanic formats gets a little ridiculous after a while.
 
2011-10-18 01:23:26 PM
Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.


Don't. Seriously Don't. I can't speak for ME 2, but ME 1 was an over hyped tedious cliche piece of shiat. The fact that so many liked it and considered it a role playing game just shows the sad state of gaming today. It is nothing more then a FPS with an upgradeable character and piss poor story line.
 
2011-10-18 01:24:23 PM
Honest Bender: Am I the only one who didn't like Mass Effect?

No, no you are not, but mentioning here on Fark the repository of mundane tastes will get you endless rounds of shiat.
 
2011-10-18 01:25:27 PM
Slaves2Darkness: Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.

Don't. Seriously Don't. I can't speak for ME 2, but ME 1 was an over hyped tedious cliche piece of shiat. The fact that so many liked it and considered it a role playing game just shows the sad state of gaming today. It is nothing more then a FPS with an upgradeable character and piss poor story line.


bbsimg.ngfiles.com
 
2011-10-18 01:27:08 PM
kingoomieiii: bbsimg.ngfiles.com

Oh, also-

ben.kirman.org
 
2011-10-18 01:29:20 PM
kingoomieiii: If you liked KOTOR, you'll like Mass Effect.

This. In my mind, it's just an improved KOTOR, removing some of the silly RPG combat issues and replacing them with real time shooter aspects.
 
2011-10-18 01:29:31 PM
Cythraul: It has guns You aim and shoot at things. My vantage point is stuck to my controlled character.. it seems pretty FPSish to me. No matter what genre label you want to use, I haven't been able to get around it enough to be able to get very far in the game, which was my point.

All the genres and sub-genres of game mechanic formats gets a little ridiculous after a while


Well if you can see your character, you're obviously not in first-person perspective.

But besides that, Mass Effect is more about the story and less about the actual shooting. Like I said, you don't even have to pull a trigger if you don't want to. The ability to freeze the battle and assign targets/tactics/powers makes it more of a fast paced chess game than just run-n-gun craziness. Sure you can continually shoot at that mech, but why not have Zaeed lob an incendiary grenade to drop its shields and hack it to bring it on your side of the fight? Those are the kind of choices you can make, and can really turn the tide of a fight.
 
2011-10-18 01:31:35 PM
fawlty: This. In my mind, it's just an improved KOTOR, removing some of the silly RPG combat issues and replacing them with real time shooter aspects.

I liked KOTOR, but found the combat unresponsive, pointlessly "flippy" (STOP JUMPING EVERY ATTACK), and really TOO rigid and turn-based. The Mass Effect games are the same from a tactics standpoint, but they're visceral and much more satisfying.
 
2011-10-18 01:32:57 PM
russkie247: Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.

FPS isn't really a good description, as other people have pointed out. It's more third-person + a really good story and characters, which only gets better by the time you play the second game.

On that note, this is cool, but wake me when I can get a lapdance from one of those asari


I'm actually on my first playthrough of ME1 now....and I ended up sleeping with the Ansari consort. I'm hoping I don't end up with Space-AIDS.
 
2011-10-18 01:38:10 PM
bemis23: I'm actually on my first playthrough of ME1 now....and I ended up sleeping with the Ansari consort. I'm hoping I don't end up with Space-AIDS.

Don't worry, Asari take the phrase "I jizzed in my pants" to a whole new level

/Don't sleep with Morinth in ME2
//Mind raep
 
2011-10-18 01:39:00 PM
Slaves2Darkness: Cythraul: [reads headline and scratches head]

I really need to get around to playing the Mass Effect series. I hear it has a great story. Now If only I could get around the whole not-liking-FPS thing.

Don't. Seriously Don't. I can't speak for ME 2, but ME 1 was an over hyped tedious cliche piece of shiat. The fact that so many liked it and considered it a role playing game just shows the sad state of gaming today. It is nothing more then a FPS with an upgradeable character and piss poor story line.


Actually your post just shows the sad state of some gamers today. Always pissed off because the new games aren't like the "good ole days" or not made to your exact specifications.

Let's see, every game magazine, web site, and publication consider it a 3rd Person RPG. You are in a game (mass effect) playing a role (commander Shepherd). What doesn't make it an RPG? Because you said so?
 
2011-10-18 01:40:28 PM
Slaves2Darkness It is nothing more then a FPS with an upgradeable character and piss poor story line.

Everything you described is more ME2 than 1, so avoid it if that's your leaning.

Cythraul there are plenty of videos up on youtube.

Personally, I loved having mostly biotic squad in 1. Toss enemy and forget about them, move on down the road. Except some bastards bounce on Insanity, and get right back up.

/armatures never touched ground
 
2011-10-18 01:40:33 PM
bemis23: I'm actually on my first playthrough of ME1 now....and I ended up sleeping with the Ansari consort. I'm hoping I don't end up with Space-AIDS.

What happens on Thessia....well it'll follow you throughout the galaxy actually
 
2011-10-18 01:48:22 PM
bemis23 I'm actually on my first playthrough of ME1 now....and I ended up sleeping with the Ansari consort. I'm hoping I don't end up with Space-AIDS.

Wait until you meet Liara the mind-rape queen.

Actually, Asari are interesting. They're monogendered, so shouldn't they be topless on Thessia?

/oh goddess, let me kill her in ME3
 
2011-10-18 01:48:58 PM
the_sidewinder: ProfessorOhki: Sticking the assembly to someone's shoulder is not pretty much the smallest increment then. If the Kinect could get decent readings within 6' of its lens, you'd have seen dozens of these online things already.

You also missed that the thing MS showed off here has to track the projection surface, where your linked devices don't


I didn't miss it, I'm just not very impressed by it.
 
2011-10-18 01:50:47 PM
Wrex.
 
2011-10-18 01:52:45 PM
Senordos13: Wrex.

Shepard
 
2011-10-18 01:52:55 PM
WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????
 
2011-10-18 01:54:36 PM
bemis23: and I ended up sleeping with the Ansari consort.

www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com
"In my defense, I was probably very drunk."
 
2011-10-18 01:55:18 PM
Eternal Virgin: WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????

If you're fast, you can save everybody.

I know I saved my bridge-bunny.
 
2011-10-18 01:55:36 PM
Eternal Virgin: WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????

Because you dicked around after the crew was abducted
 
2011-10-18 01:56:46 PM
scottydoesntknow: Cythraul: It has guns You aim and shoot at things. My vantage point is stuck to my controlled character.. it seems pretty FPSish to me. No matter what genre label you want to use, I haven't been able to get around it enough to be able to get very far in the game, which was my point.

All the genres and sub-genres of game mechanic formats gets a little ridiculous after a while

Well if you can see your character, you're obviously not in first-person perspective.

But besides that, Mass Effect is more about the story and less about the actual shooting. Like I said, you don't even have to pull a trigger if you don't want to. The ability to freeze the battle and assign targets/tactics/powers makes it more of a fast paced chess game than just run-n-gun craziness. Sure you can continually shoot at that mech, but why not have Zaeed lob an incendiary grenade to drop its shields and hack it to bring it on your side of the fight? Those are the kind of choices you can make, and can really turn the tide of a fight.


I'll have to give it another shot then, now knowing this information. Thanks.
 
2011-10-18 01:56:59 PM
Eternal Virgin: WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????

She doesn't have to die....

images.wikia.com
 
2011-10-18 01:58:17 PM
the_sidewinder: Eternal Virgin: WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????

Because you dicked around after the crew was abducted


*Spoilers*

Yeah, there's exactly one way to save ALL your squadmates AND the entire crew- do EVERYONE's loyalty mission before getting Legion, do his IMMEDIATELY after the abduction, and then go kick ass at the galactic core.

Which is too bad, because Tali's loyalty mission is way more fun if you bring Legion.
 
2011-10-18 01:58:55 PM
Eternal Virgin WHY DID KELLY HAVE TO DIE????

Because she'll fark anything - animal, vegetable, or mineral.

/get that scale-itch bearing freak off my Normandy
 
2011-10-18 02:00:20 PM
Duck_of_Doom: /get that scale-itch bearing freak off my Normandy

If she really can't control herself, have her confined to quarters until we make port.

/My quarters
 
2011-10-18 02:00:40 PM
kingoomieiii: Which is too bad, because Tali's loyalty mission is way more fun if you bring Legion.

It is possible for people to survive the end if they are not loyal, you just have to know where to put them
 
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