Just to be fair the AIDS virus is not a Virus but a deficiency of an immune system. An immune system that had a virus and then became shiat ass broken. So yeah, your eye doctor does need better colleagues especially if that is what he said.

Anyways I used to do HIV/AIDS education and used to be a hired speaker for schools. I'm glad you recognized your eye doctor is a dummy, it makes me happy to see that not everyone is clueless.

Yeah also on the fear thing, I agree. The virus can't and doesn't really live outside of the body at any time. Any air kills it, making me think, not that I am a scientist, that this is impossible. Hepatitis on the other hand can live outside of the body for 2 weeks... well certain types. That is the really scary guy to me, Hepatitis. Most big AIDS and HIV risks they talk about tend to be more likely to spread Hep, but AIDS is such a fear word we go for it.

Blood-borne viruses such as HIV and hepatitis also could be transmitted if infected clients bleed in spa water that is used again.


Wait a second, just how long can the AIDS virus live in 76F water? Pretty sure it can't survive long outside the human body. I know some types of Hep are quite hardy, but considering any infected blood will be diluted in 50 gallons of water, it seems quite unlikely that it can be transmitted.

So if you already have AIDS, it's no problem.

Stargyn: Just to be fair the AIDS virus is not a Virus but a deficiency of an immune system. An immune system that had a virus and then became shiat ass broken. So yeah, your eye doctor does need better colleagues especially if that is what he said.

Anyways I used to do HIV/AIDS education and used to be a hired speaker for schools. I'm glad you recognized your eye doctor is a dummy, it makes me happy to see that not everyone is clueless.

I really want them to cure the virus that causes the artist formerly known as prince.

IrateShadow: super AIDS

genepool lifeboat: I think it is odd that they specifically mention psoriasis when the fish treatment has been working for years in places like Turkey to help curb the symptoms.

I'd do the google-fu for citation, but I'm fairly certain it helps somewhere like 75% of the psoriasis patients who have tried it

The fish aren't the hygiene issue in the article; the possibility of disease comes from water not being changed between clients, which is basically the equivalent of not cleaning instruments between patients. Psoriasis can lead to cracked/broken skin, which can leak infectious material into the water, or make an easy entry point for anything infectious that a previous patient left in the water.

Why they can't just mandate the water changing between clients the same way they mandate sterilization of tools, I don't know. Probably people being paranoid because "you can't prove the fish won't EVER transmit disease themselves", despite there being no evidence of them having done so (that I know of). Given how these fish survive in the wild, it's more than likely that they have their own ways of minimizing such risks. A bit like how cockroaches are so well-adapted to eating garbage that despite running around in it, the bugs themselves are actually usually quite clean due to their grooming habits and a naturally antibacterial exoskeleton.

Handbasket: Why can't they just put a little soap in the water? Both HIV & Hep. B are enveloped viruses -- thus susceptible to detergents, heat, etc. Wouldn't a little soap go a long way?

It would probably kill the fish, too... thereby defeating the purpose.

I've never even heard of this before but putting the fish and the HIV aside, who has to be told that putting your feet in un-chlorinated water that a dozen other people have been in before might be harmful?

It's like the dipshiats who needed a Surgeon General to tell them that inhaling smoke into their lungs every day for 30 years is bad for you.