The first item on the list is too stupid for words, except these.

Jamdug!: Which is worse: Urban Outfitters, American Apparel or Uniqlo?

I don't care what anyone says, I love creepy pervert Dov Charney.

Rapmaster2000: Jamdug!: Which is worse: Urban Outfitters, American Apparel or Uniqlo?

I don't care what anyone says, I love creepy pervert Dov Charney.

Someone on Fark once described his office as the masturbatorium.

Finally.
Can we sue someone for this abomination?

"I doubt that you consulted the Navajo Nation about using their tribal name on sophisticated items such as the 'Navajo Hipster Panty.'"

Sick burn, and great potential band name.

One of the models in question who did not like their approach.

Meh. You can find stuff like this at places here in NM that sell souvenirs. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Can't we give these people some more smallpox and shut them up.

FTA:"These "blatantly racist" knockoffs clearly aren't, and they're tacky to boot"

Opportunism =/= racism

I'm surprised that the Navajo Nation didn't sue Urban Outfitters for violating it's trademark or demand they license the trademark and use approved vendors and patterns.

I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Not in the article..

FloydA: offmymeds: [1.images.theweek.com image 224x280]

Meh. You can find stuff like this at places here in NM that sell souvenirs. Nothing to see here. Move along.

The word "Navajo" is trademarked. A retailer who is not affiliated with or paying licensing fees to the Navajo can't use their trademark any more than I could open a restaurant and call it "McDonald's."

I don't know that you could really defend the word Navajo as a trademark for clothing, because it's also a generic style description, much in the same way that McDonald's can't trademark the word "cheeseburger". That's why their signature sandwiches have unique names like "Big Mac", and why Burger King has "The Whopper". They gave them unique names that are trademarkable. I seem to recall Nextel got their ass handed to them when they attempted to trademark the generic term "push-to-talk", something that was in common use long before they decided to use it.

It seems to me that Urban Outfitters could fight it, and have a decent chance of succeeding in court, but the cheapest solution both in terms of money and press coverage would be to just rename the garments as "Navajo-style", in other words, using the word Navajo as a generic descriptor of the products.

/Not a lawyer.

Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

There sure are some whiny-ass mother effers out there.

FloydA: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

As Zunis I turn my back, everybody starts making puns. I Mayas well Goshute myself in the Haida for all the difference I Makah round here.

So Sioux me. Inuit was a risky move.

Jamdug!: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

Uhhh...Kickapoo?

You forgot the "joy juice" part, whippersnapper.

I don't have anything to share except that I worked part time at an Urban Outfitters when I was in college. The late teens/early 20s girls that worked there were a study in debauchery and loose morals and it was the best summer of my life.

In other words, I could be exposed to a daily barrage of anti-Urban Outfitters propaganda from the whiny and perpetually offended and it still would be the greatest place EVER.

/CSB

FloydA: dittybopper: FloydA: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

As Zunis I turn my back, everybody starts making puns. I Mayas well Goshute myself in the Haida for all the difference I Makah round here.

So Sioux me. Inuit was a risky move.

I'm not going to challenge you over this; I know your type. When guys like Yu'pik a fight, you make sure you Wintu.

Wea all know I like Totoket to the limit, but Yurok, too. Now excuse me, I have to yell at the Hoh to get me a Crow Saanich with Clatsop and a nice glass of Ais water.

enik: I don't have anything to share except that I worked part time at an Urban Outfitters when I was in college. The late teens/early 20s girls that worked there were a study in debauchery and loose morals and it was the best summer of my life.

In other words, I could be exposed to a daily barrage of anti-Urban Outfitters propaganda from the whiny and perpetually offended and it still would be the greatest place EVER.

/CSB

People biatch about hipsters all the time, but hipsters fark and do drugs more than your average subculture. That's cool in my book.

dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

dittybopper: FloydA: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

As Zunis I turn my back, everybody starts making puns. I Mayas well Goshute myself in the Haida for all the difference I Makah round here.

So Sioux me. Inuit was a risky move.

I Cree what you did there.

too tired to work in a first nations pun, i know i caddo better, but i feal deadose

This thread isn't Mohican much sense.

Jamdug!: Which is worse: Urban Outfitters, American Apparel or Uniqlo?

How can you even put Uniqlo in with those two stores? Hell, they only one 1 location in the USA (soon to be 3, all in NYC). If Hipsters have spolied what is essentially the Japanese "Old Navy", then that makes me pretty sad.

cybrwzrd: How can you even put Uniqlo in with those two stores? Hell, they only one 1 location in the USA (soon to be 3, all in NYC). If Hipsters have spolied what is essentially the Japanese "Old Navy", then that makes me pretty sad.

Its fark, everything is hipster..

FloydA: dittybopper:
I don't know that you could really defend the word Navajo as a trademark for clothing, because it's also a generic style description, much in the same way that McDonald's can't trademark the word "cheeseburger". That's why their signature sandwiches have unique names like "Big Mac", and why Burger King has "The Whopper". They gave them unique names that are trademarkable. I seem to recall Nextel got their ass handed to them when they attempted to trademark the generic term "push-to-talk", something that was in common use long before they decided to use it.

It seems to me that Urban Outfitters could fight it, and have a decent chance of succeeding in court, but the cheapest solution both in terms of money and press coverage would be to just rename the garments as "Navajo-style", in other words, using the word Navajo as a generic descriptor of the products.

/Not a lawyer.

Possible. I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure that the Navajo Nation would win this case. It seems like a pretty clear "likelihood of confusion" violation of Section 43(a) of the Lanham Act. If it was just a design that looks vaguely similar to Navajo designs, they could probably get away with adding "inspired by..." type of language. But because they used the word "Navajo" with no further modifiers, they are giving the false and misleading impression that the clothes were made, designed and/or authorized by the Navajo.

But again, I'm not a lawyer, so I might be completely wrong.

In the particular case of the Navajo First Nation, there's not just the copyright and trademark aspects, but there's an additional federal law that basically states that you can't label something to be of Native origin unless there's a documented paper trail basically stating that this is a craft made by a "Dawes Act" NDN (that is, someone who is part of a federally recognised tribe under the Dawes Act).

This means (among other things) that stuff done in the style of a First Nations group must LEGALLY be labeled as a "reproduction" if not done by a "Dawes Act" Indian--folks who are part of state-recognised but not federally-recognised First Nations, or who are in that group of folks whose ancestors resorted to "passing" as Black Dutch to avoid being deported to Oklahoma...they have to label stuff as reproductions or risk running afoul of the federal law stating you can only label stuff made by a member of a federally recognised tribe as an actual "Indian craft".

(Yes, this is one of those many fun areas where First Nations whose Federal recognition was stripped (fairly common in the Northeast US), who never had Federal recognition (because frankly they refused to sign treaties because they saw how the US government tended to respect those treaties), and non-"Dawes Act" persons of Native descent pretty much get the screw. That said, there IS a real reason for this--they don't want the situation of the sort that was common in the 70s and early 80s where you had stuff purportedly "Made by the Cherokee Indians"--with an additional label noting it was made in Hong Kong. (My smartass comment: "Who knew my ancestors made it that far to set up a colony! :D") The whole idea is basically similar to the "branding regulations" protecting Champagne and tequila.)

/yeah, affects me personally--if I were to make mocs and sell 'em on the Internet, I'd have to legally label them as "reproduction"
//again, though, I can understand the reason for the protectionism

Rapmaster2000: Jamdug!: Which is worse: Urban Outfitters, American Apparel or Uniqlo?

I don't care what anyone says, I love creepy pervert Dov Charney.

Seconded.

The professionally oppressed need something to be pissed about. Where's Uncle Al when you need him?

Hongcouver: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

dittybopper: FloydA: dittybopper: Jamdug!: dittybopper: I'm hoping the Mohawks don't come after me because of my haircut.

Might be some false Hopi.

I think Huron to something there.

As Zunis I turn my back, everybody starts making puns. I Mayas well Goshute myself in the Haida for all the difference I Makah round here.

So Sioux me. Inuit was a risky move.

I Cree what you did there.

Lummi see if I can think of anything which is Apache on these ...

I see why black leaders would get upset about Ghettopoly. But why not also go after those who are the cause of the stereotype? The blacks who really are drug dealers, thieves, criminal gang members, etc. Metaphorically speaking, you don't put out a fire without also attacking the cause of the fire. And when the fire is out, you don't leave smouldering embers behind, you eliminate those too so the fire can't flare up again

I guess when your store makes its money getting wannabe-hipsters to pay hundreds of dollars for clothes that look like someone walked through a thrift store pointing at random things and saying"copy that" you have to generate some kind of controversy in order to get attention.

AiryAnne: There sure are some whiny-ass mother effers out there.

If you consider fighting for what little is left of the heritage that was forcefully taken from us whiny, then sure.

Folks tend to get a little bent when the government basically declares war, attacks them with biological weapons, rounds them up, marches them to internment camps, takes sovereign lands, so on and so forth. But we should just be all cool about it since we got those sweet reservations, am I right?

You want to know about oppression, talk to some of my people... if you can find them. We're just a tad bit scarce nowadays- a mere 175,000 of over 300 million people here. Native American tribes are the smallest minority groups in the country, and the only group the government actively tried to exterminate.

/Navajo blood
//Irish blood
///surprised I don't have a drinking problem

Krieghund
BHShaman: One of the models in question who did not like their approach.
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Yeah, it's fair to say that the focus of that picture was her crotch area.

The guardians (I won't call them parents as they are not parenting at all) weren't upset at the photo they had taken of their minor child. They were upset they weren't paid enough.



So it's cool to whore out the daughter, as long as they get a check.
umm ok.
o.O