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2011-10-17 11:33:30 AM  
Well that may be so but it's clear that Norman Bates was a real person with real problems.
 
2011-10-17 12:10:30 PM  

MayoSlather: Well that may be so but it's clear that Norman Bates was a real person with real problems.


Tyler Durden nods in agreement.
 
2011-10-17 12:29:13 PM  
Well, that should cause some controversy. There were large discussion groups of people (mostly women) who purported to have MPD, largely based on Sybil. While I do not doubt that there is actual MPD, a lot of it always seemed like attention-seeking to me.
 
2011-10-17 12:56:53 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 12:59:21 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 12:59:37 PM  

gopher321: MayoSlather: Well that may be so but it's clear that Norman Bates was a real person with real problems.

Tyler Durden nods in agreement.


Kaiser Soze smiles knowingly, before limping, and then striding, away from the scene.
 
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2011-10-17 01:57:31 PM  
The hands and the people...
 
2011-10-17 02:04:32 PM  
i157.photobucket.com
Stay away from me, Hank! I know what you have planned, OK? I saw your so-called "supplies."
Oh... that! I wasn't gonna just... ram it home, you know. I was gonna... lube it up and ease it in there, inch by inch, like a gentleman.
I was talking about the shovel and the lime.
 
2011-10-17 02:22:14 PM  
But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!
 
2011-10-17 02:22:26 PM  
www.morninggloryantiques.com

I always thought something was kind of fishy about Sybil.
 
2011-10-17 02:23:51 PM  
I am shocked, shocked and amazed, that women would go to such lengths to screw with peoples' heads.
 
2011-10-17 02:25:18 PM  
stil no cure for online alts.
 
2011-10-17 02:25:53 PM  
My high school sociology teacher will be less than pleased.
 
2011-10-17 02:26:00 PM  
 
2011-10-17 02:26:01 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 02:26:35 PM  

BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!


Not a lot in the field of psychology rises to the level of "science". Even less so in the past.
 
2011-10-17 02:26:49 PM  
Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?

/anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?
 
2011-10-17 02:28:30 PM  
this is news? hasn't it been pretty well known that the MPD movement spawned by this doc and this case are BS. heck, they renamed the (exceptionally) rare disorder just to try and get the stench off of it
 
2011-10-17 02:28:33 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 02:29:07 PM  
I always suspected that was the case.

/3horn
 
2011-10-17 02:29:42 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 02:29:59 PM  

Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?

/anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?


I hadn't, but now that you mention it...
 
2011-10-17 02:30:35 PM  
Multiple personalities does not exist. Having seen/met people with Dissociative Identity Disorder, I can clearly say it isn't a real mental illness. Those with DID end up having either a different severe mental illness like schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder, or were lying.

/GED in Psychology
 
2011-10-17 02:32:12 PM  
No shiat. It's long been discredited and - if I understand it right - the people who say they have it actually have histrionic personality disorder.
 
2011-10-17 02:32:30 PM  

Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?


www.multifamilyinvestor.com
 
2011-10-17 02:32:55 PM  

TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?


That is the biggest crock ever! I loved it. Fluent Czech? How, pray tell? Really. How? It is farkING IMPOSSIBLE, that's how. How farking stupid are people?

I dated a chick with DID (what they call MPD now). I really wanted to see what that was all about.... Yeah, how did her "French" alter learn the language of love? Maybe it was the farking french books on the bookshelf! Come on people. I will go as far as to say these people are nuts, but its not DID, it's just "look at me!"

Sex was mediocre. Taking thorazine is weird though.
 
2011-10-17 02:33:02 PM  
So, I didn't have foursome?
 
2011-10-17 02:33:12 PM  
Thousands of live ruined by watching a Sally Fields movie. This.
 
2011-10-17 02:33:14 PM  

gopher321: MayoSlather: Well that may be so but it's clear that Norman Bates was a real person with real problems.

Tyler Durden nods in agreement.


Aaron Stampler st-st-stammers his acknowledgement.
 
2011-10-17 02:33:24 PM  
Reputable psychiatrists have known this for decades.
 
2011-10-17 02:34:10 PM  
And according to El Rushbo this morning, it is also proof that global warming is a hoax.
 
2011-10-17 02:35:32 PM  

Hyaku-Shiki: Multiple personalities does not exist. Having seen/met people with Dissociative Identity Disorder, I can clearly say it isn't a real mental illness. Those with DID end up having either a different severe mental illness like schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder, or were lying.

/GED in Psychology


Huh? I can assure you that DID exists and is incredibly damaging.

That being said, the Sybil version of DID is complete bullshiat.
 
2011-10-17 02:35:36 PM  

Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?


t1.gstatic.com
 
2011-10-17 02:36:14 PM  

Marmanukem: And according to El Rushbo this morning, it is also proof that global warming is a hoax.


the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills
 
2011-10-17 02:36:37 PM  
Well, duh.

It was clearly Polly wearing a wig, pretending to be Sybil.
 
2011-10-17 02:37:34 PM  
Example 1,834 of why psychology is not a true science.
 
2011-10-17 02:37:58 PM  
So, Multiple Miggs WAS faking it!

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-17 02:38:03 PM  

TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?


Argh. So fascinating, but not enough information! The Wiki page is like one big tease.
 
2011-10-17 02:38:35 PM  

tlchwi02: the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills


. . . and became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.
 
2011-10-17 02:40:06 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 02:40:31 PM  

dustlesswalnut: Hyaku-Shiki: Multiple personalities does not exist. Having seen/met people with Dissociative Identity Disorder, I can clearly say it isn't a real mental illness. Those with DID end up having either a different severe mental illness like schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder, or were lying.

/GED in Psychology

Huh? I can assure you that DID exists and is incredibly damaging.

That being said, the Sybil version of DID is complete bullshiat.


Yeah. I'd say talk to my brother sometime (worked on a DID patient care unit), but I like my anonymity.

// I used to work at that hospital
// I avoided that unit like the plague
 
2011-10-17 02:41:11 PM  
still no alt for online cures
 
2011-10-17 02:41:15 PM  

keithgabryelski: still no cure for online alts


GreenAdder: still no cure for online alts


Well played.
 
2011-10-17 02:41:40 PM  

fireclown: tlchwi02: the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills

. . . and became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.


Really? How many of these drug using celebs you're referring to regularly sat on a high horse and derided drug users and the like?
 
2011-10-17 02:42:15 PM  
When I was in college, one of my gen eds was psychology. I asked the teacher why we were supposed to believe everything these people say when it comes to MPD or any other things they claimed were happening. She was HIGHLY offended.

I stopped going to class shortly after she stopped showing up to teach class.
 
2011-10-17 02:43:54 PM  
As a kid that read all of my Father the Paychology Professor's texts by age 12, minored in Psychology and studied humans externally and internally for 45 years, I am getting a kick out of,,,
Wanna know how much of Psychology's "Science" is total bullchit?

Did not think so.

/methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit
 
2011-10-17 02:44:25 PM  
We knew that.
 
2011-10-17 02:44:26 PM  
Screw Sally Field...the true champion of multiple personality disorder acting was Jaclyn Smith in Charlie's Angels....BEMISH!
 
2011-10-17 02:46:37 PM  
HA. I call my other personality Sybil.



/my ex called her farking crazy biatch
//my current will too, someday
 
2011-10-17 02:46:56 PM  

TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?


Just means they should kill him 2 or 3 times, one for each persona he invents.
 
2011-10-17 02:47:16 PM  

fsbilly: That is the biggest crock ever! I loved it. Fluent Czech?


I know, right? I swear even native Czechs can't speak it fluently.
 
2011-10-17 02:47:30 PM  

Tax Boy: /anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?


It was earlier, thanks to people including Rona Jaffe and the southern baptist convention. I was kicked out of school (8th grade) for playing DnD. My three dork friends and I were accused of satanism, animal sacrifice, etc.

They even brought in a guy that (claimed to have) played the beta edition with his pal Hary Gygax. When they finally started "chanting and calling on spirits" he left. Sounds like the jerk left becuase of some other petty reason and realized that he missed out on the DnD cash...or is that gold pieces?
 
2011-10-17 02:47:39 PM  

TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?


Obviously crazy. I mean, just look at that haircut, which everyone thought was a Pete Rose, but was actually a Dorothy Hamill.
 
2011-10-17 02:48:08 PM  
still no alt for online cures
 
2011-10-17 02:48:10 PM  
GARY, sorry.
 
2011-10-17 02:49:16 PM  

fireclown: . . . and became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.


he got the backlash from being a hypocrite, not a drug addict. big difference
 
2011-10-17 02:52:35 PM  

fireclown: tlchwi02: the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills

. . . and became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.


You're so right.

It's a damn shame what's happened to him since...
 
2011-10-17 02:53:04 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: fsbilly: That is the biggest crock ever! I loved it. Fluent Czech?

I know, right? I swear even native Czechs can't speak it fluently.


Not sure what you're getting at.
 
2011-10-17 02:54:35 PM  

LordOfThePings: Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?

[www.multifamilyinvestor.com image 450x300]


No one believes me when I tell them this movie exists.
 
2011-10-17 02:55:23 PM  
Only the untrained, unscientific mind finds any merit or comfort in a "consensus" anywhere near an actual scientific thingie.
Only a fool would think that a "concensus" has ever been correct in the long game.
If it is true, you certainly need no "concensus".

Proof is just so much better than a concensus.
 
2011-10-17 02:57:03 PM  
I would not be surprised to learn that it is circulated as avidly on middle-school playgrounds today as it was in my own youth.

Silly psychologist. Middle schoolers can't read.

Also, still no cure for online alts.
 
2011-10-17 02:59:51 PM  

Tax Boy: /anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?


Yes. "Recovered memories" tore my extended family apart. As a result, half of my family rides my ass because I go to therapy. Apparently the "consensus" is that I lay on a couch in a dark room in some altered state of consciousness while an evil, evil Vulcan dumps all manner of traumatic memories into my head.
 
2011-10-17 03:00:54 PM  

gilgigamesh: gopher321: MayoSlather: Well that may be so but it's clear that Norman Bates was a real person with real problems.

Tyler Durden nods in agreement.

Kaiser Soze smiles knowingly, before limping, and then striding, away from the scene.


Malcolm Rivers went up some stairs to meet the man who wasn't there.
 
2011-10-17 03:01:59 PM  

girl6: No one believes me when I tell them this movie exists.


It's on Netflix streaming.
__

My alt got cured. I forgot the other password.
 
2011-10-17 03:02:14 PM  

BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!


img.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-17 03:04:03 PM  

kellynoel: Apparently the "consensus" is that I lay on a couch in a dark room in some altered state of consciousness while an evil, evil Vulcan dumps all manner of traumatic memories into my head.


So they think you're a scientologist?
 
2011-10-17 03:05:12 PM  

Allen. The end.: So they think you're a scientologist?


*snort*
 
2011-10-17 03:06:11 PM  
Old news is old. Researchers had discredited that bs story back in the late 90's
 
2011-10-17 03:07:57 PM  
Shrinks are quacks, and their pills are snake oil. I am NOT a scientologist, just a man who recognizes bull shiat when he smells it.
 
2011-10-17 03:08:48 PM  

fsbilly: TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?

That is the biggest crock ever! I loved it. Fluent Czech? How, pray tell? Really. How? It is farkING IMPOSSIBLE, that's how. How farking stupid are people?

I dated a chick with DID (what they call MPD now). I really wanted to see what that was all about.... Yeah, how did her "French" alter learn the language of love? Maybe it was the farking french books on the bookshelf! Come on people. I will go as far as to say these people are nuts, but its not DID, it's just "look at me!"

Sex was mediocre. Taking thorazine is weird though.


You really shouldn't mess with thorazine. It can give you tardive dyskensia.
 
2011-10-17 03:10:17 PM  

Tax Boy:

/anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?


This is the second time in as many days that I've mentioned Gilmer, Texas. Read The Boy Who Was Raised As A Dog (new window) by the former Chief of Psychiatry at Texas Childrens' Hospital. He had to try to put 16 15 children back together after Social Workers (the head Social Worker having recently attended a seminar on Satanism and Child Abuse) removed them from their innocent parents and then physically tortured them until they "remembered" being horrifically sexually abused by their parents and anyone else with whome someone in Social Services had a personal grudge, during Satanic worshipping ceremonies. This was later proven to be completely false, but not until many lives were ruined.

Oh, and 16 became 15 because of the boy who came out of the theraputic torture severely brain damaged. Like the others, his parents had done nothing wrong.
 
2011-10-17 03:14:00 PM  

notauniquesnowflake: You really shouldn't mess with thorazine. It can give you tardive dyskensia.


Oh, I just tried it twice in my life, but point noted. reads wiki... Wow... duly noted.
 
2011-10-17 03:16:20 PM  
and they say religion causes much damage.
 
2011-10-17 03:17:07 PM  

shArkh: I am shocked, shocked and amazed, that women would go to such lengths to screw with peoples' heads.


I'm not.

In fact, they all be nuts.
And they get violent when you call them out on it.
 
2011-10-17 03:18:37 PM  

fireclown: tlchwi02: the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills

. . . and became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.


I'm sure his being a hypocrite about it played a big factor, you know, condemning others for doing what he's also doing, which seems to be a Republican conservative trait.
 
2011-10-17 03:21:36 PM  
so how does that explain my ex girlfriend?
 
2011-10-17 03:21:58 PM  

macdaddy357: Shrinks are quacks, and their pills are snake oil. I am NOT a scientologist, just a man who recognizes bull shiat when he smells it.


You can pry my anti-depressants from my cold, dead hands.
 
2011-10-17 03:24:18 PM  

snocone: As a kid that read all of my Father the Paychology Professor's texts by age 12, minored in Psychology and studied humans externally and internally for 45 years, I am getting a kick out of,,,
Wanna know how much of Psychology's "Science" is total bullchit?

Did not think so.

/methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit


Freud approves.
 
2011-10-17 03:25:47 PM  
I don't believe in multiple personality syndrome because most people are lucky if they even have one.
 
2011-10-17 03:25:48 PM  
Psychiatrist here - I subscribe to the belief that most MPD was in fact what we call "iatrogenic" - caused by therapists, asking misleading questions to people who were very suggestible. I can't state that all MPD is not valid - it may be an exceedingly rare problem (in fact, it was in the literature prior to Sybil becoming the case) that I have never seen. In the 80's, psychiatry emergency rooms were FILLED with women clutching their teddy bears because they were regressing, and we don't see that anymore.

There are entire psychiatric fields, journals, and even people I've worked with that clutch to MPD even though EVERY SHRED OF SCIENCE we have about personality tells us that this is not how personality works. It's sad, because they really believe that the science is just wrong about it, and have their biased experience telling them different. I hope that generation eventually fades out due to retirement.

My new worry is that psychiatry's focus on suicide has created, in the same group of women (and a less proportion of men), suggestible and iatrogenic suicide attempts - where their motivation is to be admitted to hospital or to seek a psychiatric diagnosis rather than actual suicide, meanwhile true suicide remains an epidemic and we're not really touching it.

But I guess that's for another day.
 
2011-10-17 03:28:51 PM  
But the science was settled!
 
2011-10-17 03:28:57 PM  

GacysBasement: Screw Sally Field...


Gladly.

Especially if she wears that flying nun outfit...

/oh, Sister Bertrille...
 
2011-10-17 03:34:07 PM  

macdaddy357: Shrinks are quacks, and their pills are snake oil. I am NOT a scientologist, just a man who recognizes bull shiat when he smells it.


I am not a psychoanalyst though I am a psychiatrist, but I can say that psychiatric therapies do have robust evidence to support them, both in studies comparing how patients report how they feel as well as objective outcomes. These are waitlist or placebo controlled studies by the way.

Personally, I believe that the "School of therapy" matters a lot less than engagement and rapport with the patient, as well as not simply validating everything but putting therapeutic pressure on people to change what doesn't work for them, but to say that all shrinks use quackery is simply not true.

Medications, of which I have far more knowledge, do have robust evidentiary support, and despite some famous articles claiming that they work no better than placebo, this remains to be the case. For many conditions, specifically psychosis and ADHD, the treatments that work are almost entirely biological, and medication has far better outcomes than any other approach.
 
2011-10-17 03:41:17 PM  
She also documents a connection between Schreiber and Terry Morris, a "pioneer" of this genre who freely admitted to taking "considerable license with the facts that are given to me." Her son is the political strategist Dick Morris.

This explains so much.
 
2011-10-17 03:42:10 PM  

Flavivirus: putting therapeutic pressure on people to change what doesn't work for them


That's made all the difference for me. My current therapist has helped me change my life. Previous therapists wanted to talk about every minor thing that happened to me when I was a kid, and talk about and try to pinpoint the reasons behind every behavior that I exhibit. As a result, I became fixated on getting to the "why" instead of the "how to fix it." My current therapist and I rarely talk about the past. Rather, we talk about current situations, my behaviors, their appropriateness, alternatives and possible outcomes. I am completely honest with her and some of the things that I tell her cause me shame, some legitimate and some self-inflicted with no good reason. Telling the truth - unabridged - and being accountable for my emotional state (based on the precept that emotions are the byproducts of thoughts) motivates me to think, feel and react more appropriately.
 
2011-10-17 03:43:45 PM  

girl6: LordOfThePings: Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?

[www.multifamilyinvestor.com image 450x300]

No one believes me when I tell them this movie exists.


That was a Big Chuck and Little John staple for years.
 
2011-10-17 03:43:55 PM  
$cientology was right!
 
2011-10-17 03:44:55 PM  
Does this mean my Sybil War Chess Set is worthless now?
 
2011-10-17 03:46:19 PM  

Dick Jones 'n The Old Detroit Players: So, Multiple Miggs WAS faking it!

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]


He wasn't faking that orgasm.
 
2011-10-17 03:47:15 PM  

Flavivirus: meanwhile true suicide remains an epidemic and we're not really touching it.


You mean we're not really talking about it

because it's tabu

So we do nothing.

We don't mention it.
We sweep it under the rug.
We hope it will go away.
 
2011-10-17 03:48:22 PM  

Anagrammer: But the science was settled!


Science is never settled.
 
2011-10-17 03:49:08 PM  

Bacontastesgood: BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!

Not a lot in the field of psychology rises to the level of "science". Even less so in the past.


I knew a woman in college and she had dropped out of the engineering school and into the psychology program. Her senior thesis was on "the psychology of walking sticks" and it pertained, I think, to how a walking stick would influence a hiker's mood during a hike. Her entire "study" seemed to consist of having four of her friends each hike with one of two different walking sticks and then write about whether they liked it or not.

She got an A.
 
2011-10-17 03:50:25 PM  

fireclown: Anagrammer: But the science was settled!

Science is never settled.


42


Duh.
 
2011-10-17 03:51:00 PM  

tlchwi02: Marmanukem: And according to El Rushbo this morning, it is also proof that global warming is a hoax.

the closest Rush has come to real science was when he was addicted to pain pills


Rush died during rehab. The hearing loss was faked. A thinner doppelganger makes his personal appearances and all his shows are constructed of sound bites of old shows with scripting by FOX News.

/makes too much sense
 
2011-10-17 03:51:12 PM  
The Dick Morris angle was news to me.
 
2011-10-17 03:55:05 PM  

kellynoel: Flavivirus: putting therapeutic pressure on people to change what doesn't work for them

That's made all the difference for me. My current therapist has helped me change my life. Previous therapists wanted to talk about every minor thing that happened to me when I was a kid, and talk about and try to pinpoint the reasons behind every behavior that I exhibit. As a result, I became fixated on getting to the "why" instead of the "how to fix it." My current therapist and I rarely talk about the past. Rather, we talk about current situations, my behaviors, their appropriateness, alternatives and possible outcomes. I am completely honest with her and some of the things that I tell her cause me shame, some legitimate and some self-inflicted with no good reason. Telling the truth - unabridged - and being accountable for my emotional state (based on the precept that emotions are the byproducts of thoughts) motivates me to think, feel and react more appropriately.


Go on
 
2011-10-17 03:55:46 PM  

uber humper: Go on


LOL. Sorry.

She does more than that, though. And she's never asked "how does that make you feel."
 
2011-10-17 03:56:00 PM  

vudukungfu: Flavivirus: meanwhile true suicide remains an epidemic and we're not really touching it.

You mean we're not really talking about it

because it's tabu

So we do nothing.

We don't mention it.
We sweep it under the rug.
We hope it will go away.


That is innate to the mechanism.
 
2011-10-17 03:59:14 PM  

kellynoel: uber humper: Go on

LOL. Sorry.

She does more than that, though. And she's never asked "how does that make you feel."


And how DOES that make you feel...?
 
2011-10-17 03:59:45 PM  
*cry*
 
2011-10-17 04:01:53 PM  

snocone: As a kid that read all of my Father the Paychology Professor's texts by age 12, minored in Psychology and studied humans externally and internally for 45 years, I am getting a kick out of,,,
Wanna know how much of Psychology's "Science" is total bullchit?

Did not think so.

/methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit


I have a BA in Psychology.

It was pretty much voodoo with a math requirement.

/Also have an English degree, which makes me well qualified for work in the food service or domestic engineering industries.
//Not sorry I got it, mind you: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.
 
2011-10-17 04:02:01 PM  

kellynoel: uber humper: Go on

LOL. Sorry.

She does more than that, though. And she's never asked "how does that make you feel."


You know, Fark might work well for crowd sourcing therapy.
 
2011-10-17 04:03:07 PM  
It's sad that this doesn't even surprise me.

But I guess I'm glad that "Sybil" wasn't really hung upside down in the kitchen by her mom and tortured with various sharp implements. Thanks for those nightmares, Sally Field.

There's so much bullshiat out there masquerading as "therapy" or "psychiatry." Whenever somebody starts babbling (either IRL or online) about some theory or latest therapy or whatever, in my head, I immediately reduce their reliability quotient by at least 50%.
 
2011-10-17 04:05:44 PM  

uber humper: kellynoel: uber humper: Go on

LOL. Sorry.

She does more than that, though. And she's never asked "how does that make you feel."

You know, Fark might work well for crowd sourcing therapy.


I don't think trolls + psychology would be a good fit. :)
 
2011-10-17 04:05:56 PM  
don't listen to Sybils
or their shepherds
 
2011-10-17 04:06:32 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
She's still real to me, dammit!
 
2011-10-17 04:06:34 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.


And therein lies the key to all of this. People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have. Most are people who have issues themselves and were looking to fix them but only got caught up in the intimate details of other people's lives instead of concentrating on their own.
 
2011-10-17 04:08:01 PM  
If my offline personality knew about this...
 
2011-10-17 04:08:33 PM  

Bacontastesgood: BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!

Not a lot in the field of psychology rises to the level of "science". Even less so in the past.


^THIS! And the case of Sybil, there was never consensus. Her diagnosis was challenged by a number of well respected psychologists. It was sensationalized by a journalist and taken as fact by credulous lay people.
 
2011-10-17 04:09:29 PM  

tothekor: DjangoStonereaver: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.

And therein lies the key to all of this. People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have. Most are people who have issues themselves and were looking to fix them but only got caught up in the intimate details of other people's lives instead of concentrating on their own.


What is your thetan level?
 
2011-10-17 04:09:54 PM  

tothekor: DjangoStonereaver: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.

And therein lies the key to all of this. People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have. Most are people who have issues themselves and were looking to fix them but only got caught up in the intimate details of other people's lives instead of concentrating on their own.


I have several friends who are psychologists, one who is a psychiatrist and they are all wacko. I hang out with them because they make me feel so normal, honestly employed.
 
2011-10-17 04:10:20 PM  

Grandemadaca: GacysBasement: Screw Sally Field...

Gladly.

Especially if she wears that flying nun outfit...

/oh, Sister Bertrille...


www.starbaseadran.co.uk

"Get in line, buddy."
 
2011-10-17 04:11:01 PM  

fireclown: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x600]
She's still real to me, dammit!


www.filmsinreview.com
 
2011-10-17 04:11:26 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: I don't believe in multiple personality syndrome because most people are lucky if they even have one.


I initially thought that was what Borderline Personality meant - you almost have a personality, but not quite.
 
2011-10-17 04:13:16 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Dick Jones 'n The Old Detroit Players: So, Multiple Miggs WAS faking it!

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

He wasn't faking that orgasm.


Haha...and he submitted proof to Agent Starling
 
2011-10-17 04:14:07 PM  

Anagrammer: But the science was settled!


BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!


snocone: /methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit


snocone: Only the untrained, unscientific mind finds any merit or comfort in a "consensus" anywhere near an actual scientific thingie.


That's weird. What's with all the regular climate denialists in this thread?

Marmanukem: And according to El Rushbo this morning, it is also proof that global warming is a hoax.


Wow. You weren't kidding.

i55.tinypic.com

That clears things up, thanks.
 
2011-10-17 04:14:31 PM  

Santa's Knee: tothekor: DjangoStonereaver: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.

And therein lies the key to all of this. People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have. Most are people who have issues themselves and were looking to fix them but only got caught up in the intimate details of other people's lives instead of concentrating on their own.

What is your thetan level?


Scientologists are pissed off at psychiatry because that "science" can brainwash subjects far more effectively then they ever could and that frightens them. They want the market on brainwashing.
 
2011-10-17 04:16:00 PM  
I'm missing the [AMUSING] part...

If TFA is true, many people were misdiagnosed with a conditionve they didn't have, interfering with any treatment of any actual condition they might had, and many other convicted of crimes that never occurred. Hilarious!

If TFA is false, it's insulting and invalidating to many people who actually have the condition in question. What a knee slapper!
 
2011-10-17 04:16:58 PM  

tothekor: People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have.


And here you are getting into their heads.
 
2011-10-17 04:17:17 PM  

wambu: I have several friends who are psychologists, one who is a psychiatrist and they are all wacko. I hang out with them because they make me feel so normal, honestly employed.


*grin*

I like to think (I'm rather naive) that there are some good psych()s out there. I suspect the answer is more likely simply finding a good fit, ie: a psych() whose issues do not interact with yours.
 
2011-10-17 04:19:24 PM  
www.dvdizzy.com

Kenneth Bianchi (new window) inconsolable...
 
2011-10-17 04:19:54 PM  
u mad, bro?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-10-17 04:20:38 PM  
i220.photobucket.com
But US of Tara was real because Brie Larson is still hot.
 
2011-10-17 04:21:16 PM  

AndreMA: I'm missing the [AMUSING] part...

If TFA is true, many people were misdiagnosed with a conditionve they didn't have, interfering with any treatment of any actual condition they might had, and many other convicted of crimes that never occurred. Hilarious!

If TFA is false, it's insulting and invalidating to many people who actually have the condition in question. What a knee slapper!


You are correct in that you did miss it.
 
2011-10-17 04:22:30 PM  

kellynoel: *cry*


It's okay. Remember, we all have our issues.

/Yours just require a listener.
//Mine just give me headaches.
 
2011-10-17 04:25:04 PM  
I'll have to ask my chiropractor about this.
 
2011-10-17 04:27:03 PM  
I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.
 
2011-10-17 04:28:06 PM  

StaleCoffee: I'll have to ask my chiropractor about this.


No, this is bigger than a mere backcracker - TO THE REIKI MASTER!!!
 
2011-10-17 04:28:23 PM  
I am shocked, shocked and amazed, that women would go to such lengths to screw with peoples' heads.

/favorited
 
2011-10-17 04:29:39 PM  

Tax Boy: Three women, subby? Or three women SHARING ONE BODY?

/anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?




I had suppressed the memory of that trend successfully until now. Thanks a lot.
 
2011-10-17 04:30:06 PM  

ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.


www.geardiary.com
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"
 
2011-10-17 04:31:43 PM  

Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

[www.geardiary.com image 320x240]
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"


Still tappin' it though.
 
2011-10-17 04:31:51 PM  

Santa's Knee: StaleCoffee: I'll have to ask my chiropractor about this.

No, this is bigger than a mere backcracker - TO THE REIKI MASTER!!!


Christ, I remember the last time I ran into a Reiki Master, a drunk cougar at a martini bar, I don't think it was my energy source she was trying to straighten out with her healing touch.
 
2011-10-17 04:33:44 PM  
Welp, that one is false, so anyone who ever claimed to or was diagnosed with it is lying, right?
 
2011-10-17 04:34:04 PM  

uber humper: Santa's Knee: StaleCoffee: I'll have to ask my chiropractor about this.

No, this is bigger than a mere backcracker - TO THE REIKI MASTER!!!

Christ, I remember the last time I ran into a Reiki Master, a drunk cougar at a martini bar, I don't think it was my energy source she was trying to straighten out with her healing touch.


Perhaps she cross-trained in Tantric healing?
 
2011-10-17 04:36:40 PM  

Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

[www.geardiary.com image 320x240]
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"


Still crazy hot though.
 
2011-10-17 04:39:15 PM  

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

[www.geardiary.com image 320x240]
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"

Still crazy hot though.


A lot more from column A than column B nowadays...
 
2011-10-17 04:41:10 PM  

ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.


So if your child has 6 personalities, one of them is probably autistic.
 
2011-10-17 04:42:58 PM  
I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.
 
2011-10-17 04:43:43 PM  

LordOfThePings:
My alt got cured. I forgot the other password.


+1
 
2011-10-17 04:43:53 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

So if your child has 6 personalities, one of them is probably autistic.


+1
 
2011-10-17 04:44:26 PM  

ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.


Based on a new acronym.

My all-time fave: RLS
 
2011-10-17 04:46:44 PM  

ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.


I see you are suffering from pharmaceutical skepticism syndrome.
 
2011-10-17 04:47:10 PM  

Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

Based on a new acronym.

My all-time fave: RLS


Ah, the "Jimmy Legs" of Seinfeld fame. One of the examples I was pondering while typing. I gotta' go with "Social Anxiety Disorder". (SAD) I'm listening to the pitch thinking: Didn't they just used to call that being a dork? Then I started farking. Now I see.
 
2011-10-17 04:47:18 PM  

Santa's Knee: Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

[www.geardiary.com image 320x240]
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"

Still crazy hot though.

A lot more from column A than column B nowadays...


Don't care...

Recent:

i638.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-17 04:49:34 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

I see you are suffering from pharmaceutical skepticism syndrome.


Damn recessive gene.
 
2011-10-17 04:50:40 PM  
Steal know queuer fur ron lion holtz.
 
2011-10-17 04:50:49 PM  
stop removing greenlit articles
 
2011-10-17 04:50:52 PM  

tothekor: Santa's Knee: tothekor: DjangoStonereaver: it did give some insight on people despite its lack of scientific rigor.

And therein lies the key to all of this. People who are therapists and psychologists only want to get into people's head and lives due to a voyueristic fetish they have. Most are people who have issues themselves and were looking to fix them but only got caught up in the intimate details of other people's lives instead of concentrating on their own.

What is your thetan level?

Scientologists are pissed off at psychiatry because that "science" can brainwash subjects far more effectively then they ever could and that frightens them. They want the market on brainwashing.


Not really. He was fine with psychiatry, as he contacted the VA in 1947, begging for help paying for his chronic depression and suicidal thoughts.
What set him against psychiatry was that he got labeled a paranoid schizophrenic by experts who examined his writings. He saw it as an attempt by the APA to discredit him and Dianetics.
 
2011-10-17 04:50:55 PM  

ImperialHazman: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

Based on a new acronym.

My all-time fave: RLS

Ah, the "Jimmy Legs" of Seinfeld fame. One of the examples I was pondering while typing. I gotta' go with "Social Anxiety Disorder". (SAD) I'm listening to the pitch thinking: Didn't they just used to call that being a dork? Then I started farking. Now I see.


Up in the Northwest we've got Seasonal Affective Disorder - basically, people get depressed from it being gloomy, overcast, and drizzly for nine months straight, and we get no daylight in the winter for extra fun times.

I also get the leg thing - and really, meds? I usually just tense my muscles a bit and it's okay. Annoying as hell, though.
 
2011-10-17 04:51:25 PM  
OK, serious question (not that I necessarily expect a serious answer, this being FARK).

Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.

I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I'm worried that they'd lock me up or something by saying I was dangerous. My question is, even though I haven't actually physically hurt anyone yet, if I tell them that I do feel like killing people, have made specific plans to kill certain individuals and have obtained (legal) weapons, would they lock me up? I don't think there's any point in me speaking to a psychiatrist if I'm not honest because I doubt they can help me contain my anger if they don't understand how bad it's got. But I worry that my honesty will get me locked up and drugged up so that my life is no longer in my own hands.
 
2011-10-17 04:51:49 PM  

CaliNJGuy: so how does that explain my ex girlfriend?


Which one of your alts is she?
 
2011-10-17 04:52:06 PM  

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Santa's Knee: Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I see history repeating itself every time I hear a TV commercial explaining the chances my child will be diagnosed with autism is 1 in 6.

[www.geardiary.com image 320x240]
"Farkin' vaccines - how do they work!?!?"

Still crazy hot though.

A lot more from column A than column B nowadays...

Don't care...

Recent:

[i638.photobucket.com image 414x348]


Just remember: her cooter fruit all rot on the vine.
 
2011-10-17 04:52:09 PM  

8.5 tailed fox: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

I see you are suffering from pharmaceutical skepticism syndrome.


There's a pill for that
 
2011-10-17 04:53:53 PM  

All_Farked_Up: uber humper: Santa's Knee: StaleCoffee: I'll have to ask my chiropractor about this.

No, this is bigger than a mere backcracker - TO THE REIKI MASTER!!!

Christ, I remember the last time I ran into a Reiki Master, a drunk cougar at a martini bar, I don't think it was my energy source she was trying to straighten out with her healing touch.

Perhaps she cross-trained in Tantric healing?


It got a little stiffler. But I had to pass. I had reason to believe she was not just cross-trained, but also a cross-breed bat-shiate crazy. And crazy usually doesn't scare me away.
 
2011-10-17 04:54:54 PM  

Tom Paulin: Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.




Welcome to my world. See my username? That shiat is pretty accurate.

Go get laid. Trust me.
 
2011-10-17 04:55:11 PM  

dustlesswalnut: Hyaku-Shiki: Multiple personalities does not exist. Having seen/met people with Dissociative Identity Disorder, I can clearly say it isn't a real mental illness. Those with DID end up having either a different severe mental illness like schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder, or were lying.

/GED in Psychology

Huh? I can assure you that DID exists and is incredibly damaging.

That being said, the Sybil version of DID is complete bullshiat.


We can too.
 
2011-10-17 04:55:38 PM  

Tom Paulin: OK, serious question (not that I necessarily expect a serious answer, this being FARK).

Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.

I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I'm worried that they'd lock me up or something by saying I was dangerous. My question is, even though I haven't actually physically hurt anyone yet, if I tell them that I do feel like killing people, have made specific plans to kill certain individuals and have obtained (legal) weapons, would they lock me up? I don't think there's any point in me speaking to a psychiatrist if I'm not honest because I doubt they can help me contain my anger if they don't understand how bad it's got. But I worry that my honesty will get me locked up and drugged up so that my life is no longer in my own hands.


Have a look at "Baker Act". And then seek help.
/Serious asnwer, even on Fark.
 
2011-10-17 04:55:44 PM  
still no cure for online alts
 
2011-10-17 05:00:11 PM  

StaleCoffee: 8.5 tailed fox: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

I see you are suffering from pharmaceutical skepticism syndrome.

There's a pill for that


To aleviate symptoms of PSS, try Whizitor.

Caution: Do not spray in eyes.
The contents of this bottle should not be fed to fish.
Do not place this product into any electronic equipment.
Do not use if you cannot see clearly to read the information in the information booklet.
Do not use in shower.
Do not use near fire, flame, or sparks.
Do not use while sleeping or unconscious.
For external use only!
May irritate eyes.
Not intended for highway use.
This product is not to be used in bathrooms.
This product not intended for use as a dental drill.
 
2011-10-17 05:01:32 PM  

kyoryu: ImperialHazman: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

Based on a new acronym.

My all-time fave: RLS

Ah, the "Jimmy Legs" of Seinfeld fame. One of the examples I was pondering while typing. I gotta' go with "Social Anxiety Disorder". (SAD) I'm listening to the pitch thinking: Didn't they just used to call that being a dork? Then I started farking. Now I see.

Up in the Northwest we've got Seasonal Affective Disorder - basically, people get depressed from it being gloomy, overcast, and drizzly for nine months straight, and we get no daylight in the winter for extra fun times.

I also get the leg thing - and really, meds? I usually just tense my muscles a bit and it's okay. Annoying as hell, though.


Thanks for the reminder that it's time for me to start using my Happy Light....
 
2011-10-17 05:03:19 PM  

AndreMA: I'm missing the [AMUSING] part...

If TFA is true, many people were misdiagnosed with a condition they didn't have, interfering with any treatment of any actual condition they might had, and many other convicted of crimes that never occurred. Hilarious!

If TFA is false, it's insulting and invalidating to many people who actually have the condition in question. What a knee slapper!


Go with the former. MPD was the ADHD of the 80s. Over-diagnosed by people looking for an over-simplified solution to a complex set of unrelated problems.
 
2011-10-17 05:15:55 PM  
What interests me was that the doctor who first had access to the full file was someone hand picked bySybil's doctor. This was someone she knew and trusted. When he finally got to go through the files and listen to the tapes he was shocked at just how shoddy the therapy was and how much of the treatment was essentially telling Sybil what to "remember".
 
2011-10-17 05:16:13 PM  

Meatzilla: [i157.photobucket.com image 632x345]
Stay away from me, Hank! I know what you have planned, OK? I saw your so-called "supplies."
Oh... that! I wasn't gonna just... ram it home, you know. I was gonna... lube it up and ease it in there, inch by inch, like a gentleman.
I was talking about the shovel and the lime.


is that Jim Carrey? because it doesn't look like Jim Carrey to me LOL
 
2011-10-17 05:19:32 PM  
Not to go all Tom Cruise on everyone, but the history of psychiatry from Freud down is a near continuous repeat of this story (fast-forward 20 years for the ADHD version). You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.
 
2011-10-17 05:20:39 PM  

kellynoel: Tax Boy: /anyone remember the rash of "OMG I just discovered I had repressed memories of systematic child abuse by Satan worshipers" in the 1990s?

Yes. "Recovered memories" tore my extended family apart. As a result, half of my family rides my ass because I go to therapy. Apparently the "consensus" is that I lay on a couch in a dark room in some altered state of consciousness while an evil, evil Vulcan dumps all manner of traumatic memories into my head.


Honestly, I went to therapy in college because f anger issues and I was given a, now discredited, workbook to help me remember who sexually abused me. I do have huge gaps in my memory, and what I do remember is pretty farked up. But the problem is now I really don't know what's real, what isn't and what the hell happened. And that confusion screwed me up for a decade before I took control and decided it didn't matter and the asshole they'd attributed the shiat to was an asshole whether he did it or not, and I'd be better off getting him out of my life either way.

Unfortunately I was an unbearable asshole for over a decade while I figured that out.
 
2011-10-17 05:21:02 PM  

Loreweaver: AndreMA: I'm missing the [AMUSING] part...

If TFA is true, many people were misdiagnosed with a condition they didn't have, interfering with any treatment of any actual condition they might had, and many other convicted of crimes that never occurred. Hilarious!

If TFA is false, it's insulting and invalidating to many people who actually have the condition in question. What a knee slapper!

Go with the former. MPD was the ADHD of the 80s. Over-diagnosed by people looking for an over-simplified solution to a complex set of unrelated problems.


except that adhd is diagnosed by psychiatric assessment, not psychological assessment, the difference between the two involving medical science. So... you're wrong.
 
2011-10-17 05:21:23 PM  

trippdogg: Not to go all Tom Cruise on everyone, but the history of psychiatry from Freud down is a near continuous repeat of this story (fast-forward 20 years for the ADHD version). You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.


The previous definition of ADHD was a technical term called "male".
 
2011-10-17 05:22:58 PM  
You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.

crow202.org
 
2011-10-17 05:23:05 PM  

tlchwi02: this is news? hasn't it been pretty well known that the MPD movement spawned by this doc and this case are BS. heck, they renamed the (exceptionally) rare disorder just to try and get the stench off of it


Yeah, for the two people who didn't already know that Sybil and the "Three faces of Eve" story were pretty much discredited, oh, I guess about 30 years ago, this is really shocking news.
 
2011-10-17 05:24:09 PM  
Just to throw it out there, I've always thought MPD was BS. From my understanding they literally change their personalities and will think they are someone else and act as such.

I could "act" like a different personality too

If they can't separate these personalities I say they're just tards
 
2011-10-17 05:26:04 PM  

bump: You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.

[crow202.org image 400x155]


I dunno, there are a whole lotta people out there who would love to hear they're 'normal'.
 
2011-10-17 05:27:43 PM  

kyoryu: ImperialHazman: Santa's Knee: ImperialHazman: I'm also about convinced that there is some rectal extraction of "syndromes" going on to fit whatever drug they just came up with. Seems like there's a new disorder about once a week.

Based on a new acronym.

My all-time fave: RLS

Ah, the "Jimmy Legs" of Seinfeld fame. One of the examples I was pondering while typing. I gotta' go with "Social Anxiety Disorder". (SAD) I'm listening to the pitch thinking: Didn't they just used to call that being a dork? Then I started farking. Now I see.

Up in the Northwest we've got Seasonal Affective Disorder - basically, people get depressed from it being gloomy, overcast, and drizzly for nine months straight, and we get no daylight in the winter for extra fun times.

I also get the leg thing - and really, meds? I usually just tense my muscles a bit and it's okay. Annoying as hell, though.


Seasonal Affect Disorder is no joke.

Social Anxiety Disorder is.

And while I'm sure that some people experience an abnormal sensation IN THEIR PANTS (ahem, sorry) caused by a legitimate chemical imbalance, I can't help but notice that the condition didn't become popular until a drug was put on the market to "treat" it.

I know someone who suffers from RLS. Brings it up in conversation at every opportunity and has a long history of attention seeking. She frequently expresses fear that I don't believe her. I feel like it's because I don't believe her, which is frustrating to me.

/I need to work harder on my "this is me smiling and nodding so you'll shut up" face.
 
2011-10-17 05:32:32 PM  

Anagrammer: But the science was settled!


Not really-most where skeptical at best.
 
2011-10-17 05:35:31 PM  

trippdogg: You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.


Well, you can make money telling men they're normal. Better than normal, actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9swKKZy0CCM
 
2011-10-17 05:40:59 PM  

Bacontastesgood: BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!

Not a lot in the field of psychology rises to the level of "science". Even less so in the past.


it really hasn't gotten much better.
after more than a century their main line of scientific proof is still 'we have a different idea than last year and last year's idea didn't pan out, so this idea *must* be better, right?'
 
2011-10-17 05:41:03 PM  
I always suspected that was the case.

/3horn
 
2011-10-17 05:41:06 PM  
Having lived with someone who had MPD (now known as DID), I'm really getting a kick out of this...

Actually, I'm not. There's a lot of misinformation about DID out there. Suffice it to say, it's real, it's hurtful to both the person with DID and anyone with a relationship to them (be it family, friend, significant other), and until you've lived with someone who has it, you simply don't understand the way it impacts every factor of life. Books will not prepare you for the reality, and every question you get answered will only leave you with two or three more.
 
2011-10-17 05:41:34 PM  

The Southern Dandy: trippdogg: You simply can't make money just telling people they're normal.

Well, you can make money telling men they're normal. Better than normal, actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9swKKZy0CCM


image.spreadshirt.com.
 
2011-10-17 05:42:50 PM  
When asked for comment, Sybil told this reporter, "No comment. Thank you. Maybe. Potato. Jesus farking christ you stupid biatch why the fark are you on my property. Yes. Would you like some tea, I just made some. I have school tomorrow. You don't have some Dvorak on your iPod, do you? You look like a whore all tarted up with makeup and those shoes! My mother is not in right now. Oh, my God, did you hear about President Kennedy? Ernie Kovacs is on the television right now, can you come back later? Where's Mr. Fluffy, where's my bunny dolly? All these boys want to do is get their things sucked, but I guess we know all about that, don't we? Are you from the funeral home?"
 
2011-10-17 05:44:43 PM  
Just a matter of a time before ADHD gets a mention.

Theres a huge difference between healthy skepticism of made up disorders based on clear evidence and history (as in MPD), and knee jerk reactionary conjecture for something one clearly doesn't understand (as in ADHD).

I wont argue this further but just realize there are many people out there with better educations and incomes than you because they received a proper medical diagnosis rather than listen to your useless blather.
 
2011-10-17 05:48:44 PM  

Aidan: TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?

Argh. So fascinating, but not enough information! The Wiki page is like one big tease.


The Daniel Keyes book is actually a pretty fun read, although it, like Milligan's story, is pure bullshiat. I realized that around the time his "angry" alt claimed to be able to regulate his adrenaline flow for super strength, and "proved" it by smashing a toilet in his prison cell with his bare hands ... with no one around to witness it.
 
2011-10-17 05:50:24 PM  

ChuDogg: Just a matter of a time before ADHD gets a mention.

Theres a huge difference between healthy skepticism of made up disorders based on clear evidence and history (as in MPD), and knee jerk reactionary conjecture for something one clearly doesn't understand (as in ADHD).

I wont argue this further but just realize there are many people out there with better educations and incomes than you because they received a proper medical diagnosis rather than listen to your useless blather.


Are you arguing with yourself? That's MPD, man; that's MPD
 
2011-10-17 05:55:17 PM  
The false memory shenanigans similarly began with one popular book written by a PhD Psychologist. My psychotic Ex who was all kinds of screwed up read that book and immediately "Remembered" abuse from her own psychotic mother. So many people were hurt by that book and Sibyl (Which my nut case Ex-wife had ALSO read.)

And before you ask; she was not all that hot she was pretty cute when I married her but she fell apart very quickly.

/I knew I was in for a roller coaster ride when she showed me the words she had carved in the soles of her feet because God was out to get her.
 
2011-10-17 05:57:44 PM  

BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!


Consensus? In psychology? I don't even want some of what you're on, man, because you're flying so high it's probably dangerous.
 
2011-10-17 06:02:45 PM  

whosits_112: I always suspected that was the case.

/3horn



LOL
 
SU
2011-10-17 06:13:30 PM  
Next up: that the nutrition science for the last 40 years has been wrong about obesity.
 
2011-10-17 06:17:14 PM  
Okay, I read the entire article, and all of these comments, and I am still confused.
If there was actually three of them, which one got lost at sea trying to circumnavigate the world?
Was it the deaf/blind one, the one that lived in the attic, or was it the one took the axe?
 
2011-10-17 06:17:44 PM  

Major Malfunction: Having lived with someone who had MPD (now known as DID), I'm really getting a kick out of this...

Actually, I'm not. There's a lot of misinformation about DID out there. Suffice it to say, it's real, it's hurtful to both the person with DID and anyone with a relationship to them (be it family, friend, significant other), and until you've lived with someone who has it, you simply don't understand the way it impacts every factor of life. Books will not prepare you for the reality, and every question you get answered will only leave you with two or three more.


As a person who is currently married to a woman with DID I know what it's like. There are days it can be trying and days where everything seems like pretty much the norm. It's a question of severity. It can be very strange to wake up to someone who doesn't know who you are, but that's not most days.

What it isn't however is how these three women tried to make it seem.
 
2011-10-17 06:18:41 PM  

SU: nutrition science for the last 40 years has been wrong about obesity.


you sound like a one-man consensus
 
2011-10-17 06:29:18 PM  

shuadchaun: Major Malfunction: Having lived with someone who had MPD (now known as DID), I'm really getting a kick out of this...

Actually, I'm not. There's a lot of misinformation about DID out there. Suffice it to say, it's real, it's hurtful to both the person with DID and anyone with a relationship to them (be it family, friend, significant other), and until you've lived with someone who has it, you simply don't understand the way it impacts every factor of life. Books will not prepare you for the reality, and every question you get answered will only leave you with two or three more.

As a person who is currently married to a woman with DID I know what it's like. There are days it can be trying and days where everything seems like pretty much the norm. It's a question of severity. It can be very strange to wake up to someone who doesn't know who you are, but that's not most days.

What it isn't however is how these three women tried to make it seem.


If you made it work, good for you. I never had to wake up an alter who didn't know who I was, but I've been in the car with one, so I definitely feel for you. Almost as frustrating is when they "lose time" when an alter comes out who isn't co-conscious with the other alters and thus is months behind on events. I wish the best of luck to you plus however many hers there are, and I agree, the sensationalism and fabricated cases of MPD have done nothing but hurt legitimate study and understanding of real people suffering from this real disorder.
 
2011-10-17 06:31:20 PM  
Psychology is a pseudo-science.
 
2011-10-17 06:36:17 PM  

Tom Paulin: OK, serious question (not that I necessarily expect a serious answer, this being FARK).

Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.

I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I'm worried that they'd lock me up or something by saying I was dangerous. My question is, even though I haven't actually physically hurt anyone yet, if I tell them that I do feel like killing people, have made specific plans to kill certain individuals and have obtained (legal) weapons, would they lock me up? I don't think there's any point in me speaking to a psychiatrist if I'm not honest because I doubt they can help me contain my anger if they don't understand how bad it's got. But I worry that my honesty will get me locked up and drugged up so that my life is no longer in my own hands.


Having homocidal ideation is not usually grounds for involuntary commitment. However, if you present a credible threat to others, they can get a court order to detain you for 72 hours.

But seriously, get help before you cross the line. A few days on the psych ward is way better than prison.

Even cute little old ladies think about killin'. But once they start picking fights and buying weapons, you worry.

/on clinical rotation in psych ward
//it's not so bad in there
 
2011-10-17 06:47:36 PM  
What someone that DNRTA may look like.

www.bbc.co.uk
Well, I'm president, I don't have a lot of time for reading.
 
2011-10-17 07:03:26 PM  

Flavivirus: There are entire psychiatric fields, journals, and even people I've worked with that clutch to MPD even though EVERY SHRED OF SCIENCE we have about personality tells us that this is not how personality works. It's sad, because they really believe that the science is just wrong about it, and have their biased experience telling them different. I hope that generation eventually fades out due to retirement.


Yeah, good luck. We still have idiots believing in chakras, crystal therapy, and homeopathic remedies, even though some of them have been clearly bullshiat for generations. People _want_ to believe bullshiat. Hell, I am a hardcore science guy, and everywhere I've worked there's one or two scientists or engineers who believe in UFOs, 9/11 Troof, magnets giving them 70mpg, cold fusion, mayan armageddon next year, and yes, homeopathy. I am farking merciless with mocking these people, and they generally hate me. Farkem.
 
2011-10-17 07:15:24 PM  

Here Comes Everybody: Aidan: TappingTheVein: What about this guy ?

Argh. So fascinating, but not enough information! The Wiki page is like one big tease.

The Daniel Keyes book is actually a pretty fun read, although it, like Milligan's story, is pure bullshiat. I realized that around the time his "angry" alt claimed to be able to regulate his adrenaline flow for super strength, and "proved" it by smashing a toilet in his prison cell with his bare hands ... with no one around to witness it.


Excellent. Yeah it sounds like utterly silly bullshiat, but it also sounds like a great story. :)
 
2011-10-17 07:22:59 PM  
You mean the movie, starring Sally Fields, was not a true account some woman?

Well, I am Jack's wasted life for having bought it!
 
2011-10-17 07:33:31 PM  
There's also no Satanic worship in our nation's preschools, no one has ever been abducted by extraterrestrials, possessed by the devil, or "remembered" a past life. Also, you're fat, not big boned.
 
2011-10-17 07:53:34 PM  

Skyred: Just to throw it out there, I've always thought MPD was BS. From my understanding they literally change their personalities and will think they are someone else and act as such.

I could "act" like a different personality too

If they can't separate these personalities I say they're just tards


Or that it's harder to pin down people than thought: Link (new window)

IIRC from reading about this in my Psych 101 class, the ones who had legit disorders were better able to see that the testers were faking.
 
2011-10-17 08:07:35 PM  
Old news is old. Very old.
 
2011-10-17 08:55:50 PM  
Does anyone know how this relates to a cure for online alts?
 
2011-10-17 09:15:17 PM  
I'm pretty sure psychology is just a troll.

No seriously.

It seems like the entire basis for modern psychology was a drug addict with wild theories and no actual evidence. And, even though the modern community now finds faults with 3/4ths of his work, they still consider him a cornerstone of the field.
 
2011-10-17 09:52:39 PM  
dilbert.com
 
2011-10-17 10:37:40 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm pretty sure psychology is just a troll.

No seriously.

It seems like the entire basis for modern psychology was a drug addict with wild theories and no actual evidence. And, even though the modern community now finds faults with 3/4ths of his work, they still consider him a cornerstone of the field.


Recognizing someone as key to the development of therapies and using his theories as the cornerstone of treatment are two different things. As a psychiatrist, I rarely think of Freud, but some of his concepts - such as transference, countertransference, and defense mechanisms are truly revolutionary and important things even today.

But then again, I have almost zero Freudian leanings, so your statement does ring true for some.
 
2011-10-17 10:38:42 PM  

Bacontastesgood: Flavivirus: There are entire psychiatric fields, journals, and even people I've worked with that clutch to MPD even though EVERY SHRED OF SCIENCE we have about personality tells us that this is not how personality works. It's sad, because they really believe that the science is just wrong about it, and have their biased experience telling them different. I hope that generation eventually fades out due to retirement.

Yeah, good luck. We still have idiots believing in chakras, crystal therapy, and homeopathic remedies, even though some of them have been clearly bullshiat for generations. People _want_ to believe bullshiat. Hell, I am a hardcore science guy, and everywhere I've worked there's one or two scientists or engineers who believe in UFOs, 9/11 Troof, magnets giving them 70mpg, cold fusion, mayan armageddon next year, and yes, homeopathy. I am farking merciless with mocking these people, and they generally hate me. Farkem.


Don't even get me started on talking with doctors, nurses, and students about homeopathy. I cannot reconcile the cognitive dissonance.
 
2011-10-18 12:06:39 AM  

Tom Paulin: OK, serious question (not that I necessarily expect a serious answer, this being FARK).

Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.

I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I'm worried that they'd lock me up or something by saying I was dangerous. My question is, even though I haven't actually physically hurt anyone yet, if I tell them that I do feel like killing people, have made specific plans to kill certain individuals and have obtained (legal) weapons, would they lock me up? I don't think there's any point in me speaking to a psychiatrist if I'm not honest because I doubt they can help me contain my anger if they don't understand how bad it's got. But I worry that my honesty will get me locked up and drugged up so that my life is no longer in my own hands.


Mental health has really improved in the last 100 years or so. They no longer lock people up who haven't had a demonstrated history of being a danger to others.
Seriously, go get help.
 
2011-10-18 07:38:12 AM  

BravadoGT: But it was SCIENCE! There was a CONSENSUS, dammit!


wow, did you just finish listening to Rush and post one of his jokes on Fark.

Man, you must be a deep thinker.
 
2011-10-18 09:28:34 AM  
Eh, color me not surprised. Since I started going to my wife's therapist (because she thinks it's important), I have an even lower opinion of shrinks than I had prior.
 
2011-10-18 10:20:28 AM  

snocone: As a kid that read all of my Father the Paychology Professor's texts by age 12, minored in Psychology and studied humans externally and internally for 45 years, I am getting a kick out of,,,
Wanna know how much of Psychology's "Science" is total bullchit?

Did not think so.

/methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit


Err, are you spelling things wrong to make some kind of point or are you just that stupid?
static.tumblr.com

Also, to all you $cilon sympathizers and GEDs in psych: not all shrinks are like this woman. That's why they make the news: because they are UNIQUE.They USED to be like this in the days of Freud. In fact, Freud was an EXCEPTION of the time, along with Jung, in that they actually tried talking to people instead of just medicating them (other than the cocaine), and trying to think about what are the origins of the problem and the WHY rather than the how.
Back then, when this book was written, bioethics didn't exist. That's why she got away with all this. There was also the cases of mass hysteria concerning "repressed memories" that only propagated more bullshiat. That's why $cientology was so alluring to people, because of all the exposes of quack shrinks. We've learned a lot since then. Nowadays, the consensus is that those people were idiots and the shrinks who supported her were caught up in the hysteria. Did you perhaps notice that there were people who were saying "hey guys, wtf is up with this?" A lot more than 1%.

Marriage counselors are pretty bullshiat, though. Anything you hear about "trial separation" like in sitcoms isn't true. That's some hippie bullshiat from the 60s that came from the free love movement. No one suggests that anymore. But because most Hollywood tropes come from the 60s and before, it persists in television.

tl;dr: Psychology and psychiatry are fascinating. Anyone who doesn't think so can fark off.
/obscure?
 
2011-10-18 10:44:44 AM  

JWideman: Tom Paulin: OK, serious question (not that I necessarily expect a serious answer, this being FARK).

Since this has become a sort of general psychiatry thread... I have real anger issues, more specifiically I feel like I need to hurt people if they make me agitated. I figured that I'd get better as I got older but I seem to be getting worse. I used to just get a little angry now and then and be all moody and then hit a wall when no-one was around. Now I just get in people's faces and try and provoke them into fighting me. Thing is, I can't control it either, I just get filled with rage and all I can think about is killing them. I tell myself that they don't deserve to live if they behave like animals.

I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I'm worried that they'd lock me up or something by saying I was dangerous. My question is, even though I haven't actually physically hurt anyone yet, if I tell them that I do feel like killing people, have made specific plans to kill certain individuals and have obtained (legal) weapons, would they lock me up? I don't think there's any point in me speaking to a psychiatrist if I'm not honest because I doubt they can help me contain my anger if they don't understand how bad it's got. But I worry that my honesty will get me locked up and drugged up so that my life is no longer in my own hands.

Mental health has really improved in the last 100 years or so. They no longer lock people up who haven't had a demonstrated history of being a danger to others.
Seriously, go get help.


Seriously, get help, look for therapists that specialize in cognitive behavioral therapy. It'll help you focus on why you get so enraged at people (in a situational sense, not a "what happened to make you this way" sense) and can't seem to stop thinking about it.

I would shop around a bit until you find one that fits you, it can be hit or miss finding the right one.

I would also get a friend to HIDE everything you bought and/or return them. Remember it's for your safety too.

Moreover, you're not alone . We're here to help! Keep us updated on your progress! :) No one should ever feel ashamed in asking for help.
 
2011-10-18 11:17:53 AM  

Dick Jones 'n The Old Detroit Players


[Rush Limbaugh] became damned near the only celeb ever to suffer backlash from a drug addiction.

Really? How many of these drug using celebs you're referring to regularly sat on a high horse and derided drug users and the like?


Liar. It is well-documented that Rush Limbaugh went silent on the topic of narcotics around the time that he became addicted.

In any case, hypocrisy is not a major sin. What is a major sin, is deciding that there are no major sins except hypocrisy.

 
2011-10-18 11:42:30 AM  
Damn, kinda wasn't expecting so many kind answers.

I feel hopeful that they wouldn't have me involuntarily commited since I have never hurt anyone. The worst thats ever happened is that I hit someone in the face, and they really did provoke me a lot before I did. Not that I excuse it. And I've never lashed out at anyone who hasn't provoked me (If I perceive them as innocent I don't feel any animosity toward them).

I think I will consider speaking to someone. I suppose a part of me wants to hide it because I don't feel like it's my fault.

And as for the weapons, I don't think I need to worry too much as it's not anything hardcore that I've brought (just 2 good sized hunting knives).

Thanks all for the genuine help :)
 
2011-10-18 12:26:28 PM  
colithian 2011-10-18 10:20:28 AM

snocone: As a kid that read all of my Father the Paychology Professor's texts by age 12, minored in Psychology and studied humans externally and internally for 45 years, I am getting a kick out of,,,
Wanna know how much of Psychology's "Science" is total bullchit?

Did not think so.

/methinks an axiom is in order, concensus=bullchit

Err, are you spelling things wrong to make some kind of point or are you just that stupid?


Also, to all you $cilon sympathizers and GEDs in psych: not all shrinks are like this woman. That's why they make the news: because they are UNIQUE.They USED to be like this in the days of Freud. In fact, Freud was an EXCEPTION of the time, along with Jung, in that they actually tried talking to people instead of just medicating them (other than the cocaine), and trying to think about what are the origins of the problem and the WHY rather than the how.
Back then, when this book was written, bioethics didn't exist. That's why she got away with all this. There was also the cases of mass hysteria concerning "repressed memories" that only propagated more bullshiat. That's why $cientology was so alluring to people, because of all the exposes of quack shrinks. We've learned a lot since then. Nowadays, the consensus is that those people were idiots and the shrinks who supported her were caught up in the hysteria. Did you perhaps notice that there were people who were saying "hey guys, wtf is up with this?" A lot more than 1%.

Marriage counselors are pretty bullshiat, though. Anything you hear about "trial separation" like in sitcoms isn't true. That's some hippie bullshiat from the 60s that came from the free love movement. No one suggests that anymore. But because most Hollywood tropes come from the 60s and before, it persists in television.

tl;dr: Psychology and psychiatry are fascinating. Anyone who doesn't think so can fark off.
/obscure?




Thank god the experts are here...
 
2011-10-18 12:49:19 PM  
There's a freebie magazine called "Pathways' that shows up at the gym, and I get a chuckle reading all the ads and ads posing as stories that tout everything from crystals to drumming, chanting, Reiki, dog whispering and, my favorite, "Irish Therapy".

I'm sure it's some candle-lit chanting of Celtic nonsense, while listing to Clannad CD's....but I like to picture it as walking into a bar, being hit over the head with a shillelagh, and the bartender thrusting a Guinness into your hand, saying, "Ya feel better, Seamus?
 
2011-10-18 01:06:25 PM  

Flavivirus: Psychiatrist here


Serious question. What does the psychiatric profession do to weed out abusive practitioners?
It seems like this would be the perfect line of work for a sociopath who wanted to exploit and manipulate vulnerable people.
 
2011-10-18 01:22:57 PM  

RosettaStone: Flavivirus: Psychiatrist here

Serious question. What does the psychiatric profession do to weed out abusive practitioners?
It seems like this would be the perfect line of work for a sociopath who wanted to exploit and manipulate vulnerable people.


And it would be in the interests of the profession as a whole to get those types out.
 
2011-10-18 01:50:27 PM  

RosettaStone: Flavivirus: Psychiatrist here

Serious question. What does the psychiatric profession do to weed out abusive practitioners?
It seems like this would be the perfect line of work for a sociopath who wanted to exploit and manipulate vulnerable people.


Dr Hannibal Lecter approves of this post. And will now eat it with fava beans and a nice Chianti.
 
2011-10-18 02:51:48 PM  

RosettaStone: Flavivirus: Psychiatrist here

Serious question. What does the psychiatric profession do to weed out abusive practitioners?
It seems like this would be the perfect line of work for a sociopath who wanted to exploit and manipulate vulnerable people.


If I encounter a patient who has received what I consider to be pseudoscientific or counter-evidence therapy, I call that physician and advise them so. If it seems like there is a systemic or resistant person involved, I may report to the College for investigation. Fortunately, its very rare, though perhaps less so than I think.

Every physician hates the idea, but the best way around this is mandatory recertification in your specialty and peer review. Very difficult to get people to sign on, though.
 
2011-10-18 03:55:17 PM  

Flavivirus: RosettaStone: Flavivirus: Psychiatrist here

Serious question. What does the psychiatric profession do to weed out abusive practitioners?
It seems like this would be the perfect line of work for a sociopath who wanted to exploit and manipulate vulnerable people.

If I encounter a patient who has received what I consider to be pseudoscientific or counter-evidence therapy, I call that physician and advise them so. If it seems like there is a systemic or resistant person involved, I may report to the College for investigation. Fortunately, its very rare, though perhaps less so than I think.

Every physician hates the idea, but the best way around this is mandatory recertification in your specialty and peer review. Very difficult to get people to sign on, though.


Thanks for the reply. :)
 
2011-10-18 05:15:43 PM  

kokomo61: There's a freebie magazine called "Pathways' that shows up at the gym, and I get a chuckle reading all the ads and ads posing as stories that tout everything from crystals to drumming, chanting, Reiki, dog whispering and, my favorite, "Irish Therapy".

I'm sure it's some candle-lit chanting of Celtic nonsense, while listing to Clannad CD's....but I like to picture it as walking into a bar, being hit over the head with a shillelagh, and the bartender thrusting a Guinness into your hand, saying, "Ya feel better, Seamus?


Yeah, I've noticed that in "Psychology Today" as well. Weird that they would advertise homeopathy in a scientific magazine. But I guess they pay the best money.
 
2011-10-19 10:39:55 PM  

Flavivirus: Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm pretty sure psychology is just a troll.

No seriously.

It seems like the entire basis for modern psychology was a drug addict with wild theories and no actual evidence. And, even though the modern community now finds faults with 3/4ths of his work, they still consider him a cornerstone of the field.

Recognizing someone as key to the development of therapies and using his theories as the cornerstone of treatment are two different things. As a psychiatrist, I rarely think of Freud, but some of his concepts - such as transference, countertransference, and defense mechanisms are truly revolutionary and important things even today.

But then again, I have almost zero Freudian leanings, so your statement does ring true for some.


he stole every single idea.
 
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