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mjoven1975

2011-10-16 10:29:27 PM

Submitter forgot the WFL. (new window)

ha-ha-guy

2011-10-16 10:39:47 PM

Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

neuroflare

2011-10-16 10:43:19 PM

sirrerun

2011-10-16 10:48:42 PM

Long as there's still the Lingerie League, I'm good.

eas81

2011-10-16 10:54:11 PM

guess subby forgot about :(

ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

www.peoplequiz.com

/yes ha ha they played in the spring

SharkTrager

2011-10-16 10:54:47 PM

ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

There's a serious problem. Other leagues tried the spring/summer thing and still didn't catch on. People are not OK with just any football. They want NFL and their favorite colleges.

When you get down to it they don't have the financial backing to hire the top talent away from the NFL and that is what it will take to overcome 100 years of tradition. The USFL thought they could get a few top players and that would be enough. It wasn't. Leagues have thought they could gamble on cities without an NFL team only to find that there was a reason those cities didn't have an NFL team.

The closest anyone has ever come was the AFL, and their merger with the NFL created a monster that will only die if it kills itself.

RoosterCogburn

2011-10-16 10:58:15 PM

Makes me wonder why the Euro NFL never worked out. They held their games during the NFL offseason. Surprised the networks never jumped at the chance to broadcast them and fill that cultural gap.

vegasj

2011-10-16 11:05:58 PM

Because the NFL pulls a WTF and gets all LMAO... then tosses the UFIA

He_Hate_Me

2011-10-16 11:11:05 PM

SharkTrager: Leagues have thought they could gamble on cities without an NFL team only to find that there was a reason those cities didn't have an NFL team.

I'd say there are some exceptions. Omaha seems to be doing well with their UFL team. If they found more cities like Omaha and Green Bay, the league might get somewhere.

drunk_bouncnbaloruber

2011-10-16 11:16:32 PM

RoosterCogburn: Makes me wonder why the Euro NFL never worked out. They held their games during the NFL offseason. Surprised the networks never jumped at the chance to broadcast them and fill that cultural gap.

Because fark Roger Goodell.

bubbaprog

2011-10-16 11:18:19 PM

The CFL is still doing just fine and is exciting, competitive football.

bgilmore5

2011-10-16 11:22:52 PM

He_Hate_Me: SharkTrager: Leagues have thought they could gamble on cities without an NFL team only to find that there was a reason those cities didn't have an NFL team.

I'd say there are some exceptions. Omaha seems to be doing well with their UFL team. If they found more cities like Omaha and Green Bay, the league might get somewhere.

Omaha did not do as well this season. I happened to drive by the stadium last night and they had a fairly good crowd without competing against the Huskers. The stadium was pretty empty for the first game, though.

Either way, this league is dead.

smeag0l

2011-10-16 11:23:43 PM

Dana White is ruining MMA sports

Sofa_king_kewl

2011-10-17 12:01:15 AM

I actually have tickets for this game.

Lattices aren't Distributive

2011-10-17 12:03:16 AM

Sofa_king_kewl: I actually have tickets for this game.

So you're the one.

Representative of the unwashed masses

2011-10-17 12:47:51 AM

bubbaprog: The CFL is still doing just fine and is exciting, competitive football.

This season as a Rider fan makes me want to cut myself. Seriously it's been that bad.

How the hell do you not score a touchdown in 4 games? You would think it would happen a couple times by accident.

Sigh well I guess I can at least give the starting qb a bit of a break for playing most of that time with a broken foot.

/whimpers a bit.
//2012 baby!
///as long as the damn stampeders don't win the grey cup...

gokc69

2011-10-17 12:49:12 AM

My special talent is that I can name all of the USFL teams without the use of the internet.

/Terrible party guest.

VvonderJesus

2011-10-17 01:42:37 AM

Sofa_king_kewl: I actually have tickets for this game.

Like, on purpose?

video man

2011-10-17 01:49:43 AM

The UFL proved that Omaha could support an NFL team.

/If anyone should get the Vikings, it should be us.

Neondistraction

2011-10-17 01:56:47 AM

bubbaprog: The CFL is still doing just fine and is exciting, competitive football.

True, but you can't really compare the CFL to leagues like the XFL, UFL, and USFL. It doesn't have to compete with the NFL.

RoosterCogburn: Makes me wonder why the Euro NFL never worked out. They held their games during the NFL offseason. Surprised the networks never jumped at the chance to broadcast them and fill that cultural gap.

It's unlikely that American audiences would have taken to it, at least in enough numbers to make it worth showing. But I doubt there was any sort of push to air them to begin with. Though even if it did become really popular over here it would have still failed. It just wasn't popular enough in Europe, and a league needs ticket sales to survive.

Pratty

2011-10-17 02:59:38 AM

Lord Huggington

2011-10-17 05:39:30 AM

That's a shame, was a lot of fun going to the games.

Dogpants

2011-10-17 08:12:23 AM

video man: The UFL proved that Omaha could support an NFL team.

/If anyone should get the Vikings, it should be us.

Yeah, without the Vikings, Omaha's just a less-cold Minneapolis...or so I've been hearing for years as a Minnesota taxpayer.

/or something like that

SDRR

2011-10-17 08:33:29 AM

Pratty: ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

The USFL did that for a while and it worked. But they got off Dixon's plan and overexpanded, overcosted themselves and, worse, moved the schedule to fall to try and compete with the NFL, ensuring their demise.

Donald Trump screwed the USFL, completely and totally. There is a great documentary all about it that ESPN did quite a few years ago.

RminusQ

2011-10-17 09:31:39 AM

This was a league that was created, 90% on the idea that the NFL lockout was going to nuke regular season games and people would be begging for football.

The fact that, even before the lockout ended, they were unable to get their shiat together to start this season before September, means that such a business plan is not sufficient.

Now, the fact that a lot of people who crave football had never heard of this is not a direct cause of its failure, but a consequence of its direct cause. What channel is going to air a competing football league? CBS? Fox? NBC? ABC/ESPN? All of them have NFL contracts (which may very well at this point prohibit them from airing other professional football leagues). Versus aired the first two seasons, and then they were bought by NBC's parent company, and there goes Versus's desire to air the third season.

11of12

2011-10-17 09:58:22 AM

What about
www.theworldoffootball.com

jake3988

2011-10-17 10:18:03 AM

neuroflame: I think they were banking on the lockout going throughout the season
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Yup... they pretty much triple-downed on the lockout happening.

When it didn't, they knew they were screwed.

Pratty

2011-10-17 10:42:17 AM

SDRR: Pratty: ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

The USFL did that for a while and it worked. But they got off Dixon's plan and overexpanded, overcosted themselves and, worse, moved the schedule to fall to try and compete with the NFL, ensuring their demise.

Donald Trump screwed the USFL, completely and totally. There is a great documentary all about it that ESPN did quite a few years ago.

Yeah, I remember seeing that. It was pretty good.

hurdboy

2011-10-17 11:42:54 AM

With Marty Schottenheimer on the sidelines in the championship game, expect Omaha to mount "The Drive Part III."

/Never made it to a Destroyers' Game....no desire to drive to a soccer stadium in the suburban sprawl that is Virginia Beach when there's an unused baseball stadium a short bus or rail ride away......

SDRR

2011-10-17 12:26:00 PM

11of12: What about
[www.theworldoffootball.com image 130x128]

fc05.deviantart.net

UNC_Samurai

2011-10-17 12:58:26 PM

eas81: guess subby forgot about :(

ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

[www.peoplequiz.com image 217x250]

/yes ha ha they played in the spring

Cancelling NFLE was the dumbest thing the NFL has done in recent years. The league really needs a minor league system, and that was part of what the UFL tried to do over the last few years.

He_Hate_Me:

CS,B time: I was friends with the manager of the Charlotte area Tweeter. He installed most of the Panthers players' car and home stereo systems. I was down for a game one weekend and he introduced me to Rod Smart, who was getting a system installed in his '98 Chevy Malibu.

11of12: What about
www.theworldoffootball.com

Somewhere in my parents' attic are our Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks season tickets.

Orgasmatron138

2011-10-17 02:01:17 PM

UNC_Samurai: eas81: guess subby forgot about :(

ha-ha-guy: Why the hell does the UFL not have it's season in the spring? I'm desperate for football then. Right now I'm busy in a schedule of NCAA and NFL ball. Come May I'm like a junkie with the twitches and I'd kill for a football like substance. If the UFL schedules its games in the fall, it deserves to die.

[www.peoplequiz.com image 217x250]

/yes ha ha they played in the spring

Cancelling NFLE was the dumbest thing the NFL has done in recent years. The league really needs a minor league system, and that was part of what the UFL tried to do over the last few years.

He_Hate_Me:

CS,B time: I was friends with the manager of the Charlotte area Tweeter. He installed most of the Panthers players' car and home stereo systems. I was down for a game one weekend and he introduced me to Rod Smart, who was getting a system installed in his '98 Chevy Malibu.

11of12: What about
www.theworldoffootball.com

Somewhere in my parents' attic are our Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks season tickets.

They have a minor league system - it's called college football. And they don't even have to pay for it.

yequalsy

2011-10-17 02:40:17 PM

SharkTrager: The closest anyone has ever come was the AFL, and their merger with the NFL created a monster that will only die if it kills itself.

The success of the AFL helps explain the failure of these other leagues. By 1960 there were a lot of major cities without a NFL team, NFL play had become -- what's the word? -- constipated, and a lot of NFL owners still weren't real keen on having players with darker skin than Y.A. Tittle. So the NFL left a big gaping hole in the market in terms of geography, style of play, and player quality. Despite those advantages the AFL still almost went belly up. There's just not the same sort of market opportunity today.

bgddy24601

2011-10-17 03:04:05 PM

And they said Mrty Shottenheimer would never make it to the big game. Well he has finally proved all you haters wrong. Suck it, Super Bowl elitists!

/there's a gleam, men!
//surely that isn't obscure on here

Krustofsky

2011-10-17 03:11:20 PM

Schottenheimer will still lose. It's a big game, he loses. Just like death and taxes.

HeartBurnKid

2011-10-17 03:51:24 PM

video man

2011-10-17 04:12:59 PM

Dogpants: video man: The UFL proved that Omaha could support an NFL team.

/If anyone should get the Vikings, it should be us.

Yeah, without the Vikings, Omaha's just a less-cold Minneapolis...or so I've been hearing for years as a Minnesota taxpayer.

/or something like that

We also have better football fans. Although, the combined effort of the Goophers and Vikings would get me jazzed as 5mg of Xanax, so I can't fault you.

Muffin'sTop

2011-10-17 07:20:51 PM

smeag0l: Dana White is ruining MMA sports

Funny you said that as the UFC/PRIDE FC merger as pretty much akin to the NFL/AFL merger

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