Yeah, probably a flash in the pan. They sure seem to have struck a nerve with the right-wing sorts, though.

So we're going to swing a midterm and impact the behavior of one of the two major political parties for multiple election cycles? Cool!

So there will be 70 OWS House members in 2012?

minimal impact as the teabaggers??

As in there will actually be at least a few candidates elected who will stand up for what the OWS protesters stand for?

Cool

WTF Indeed: You do know that there are zero Tea Party members of Congress, right? They are Republicans.

Yep, zero Tea Party members of Congress. Also, there are zero black people in Congress, only Democrats and Allen West.

there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

Weaver95: there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

And they're chanting the mantra pretty incessantly.

Which suits me just fine. The more stories there are about how it's just "a few disgruntled hippies" and "a flash in the pan," the more it will become obvious that OWS is neither of those.

Weaver95: there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

It sort of forces the GOP to admit they side with Wall Street. Right now, that's not good for PR.

FloydA: Which suits me just fine. The more stories there are about how it's just "a few disgruntled hippies" and "a flash in the pan," the more it will become obvious that OWS is neither of those.

these protests are world wide. even my hometown has a protest going. this thing is huge...and it's spreading. when I joined Occupy Harrisburg the first thing that hit me was how inclusive it was - old, young, gay, straight, republican, democrat, libertarian, green party...people of all stripes were there. it really does cut across our dividing lines.

St_Francis_P: Weaver95: there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

It sort of forces the GOP to admit they side with Wall Street. Right now, that's not good for PR.

they're trying really really hard to ignore and/or mock the movement. it's not working very well though.

Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Weaver95: there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

It sort of forces the GOP to admit they side with Wall Street. Right now, that's not good for PR.

they're trying really really hard to ignore and/or mock the movement. it's not working very well though.

Lots of demonizing, too. The derposhere is going crazy writing articles about how evil the protesters are.

St_Francis_P: Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Weaver95: there's a whole lotta GOP types who really don't want to see this movement gain traction.

It sort of forces the GOP to admit they side with Wall Street. Right now, that's not good for PR.

they're trying really really hard to ignore and/or mock the movement. it's not working very well though.

Lots of demonizing, too. The derposhere* is going crazy writing articles about how evil the protesters are.

*derposphere

St_Francis_P: Lots of demonizing, too. The derposhere is going crazy writing articles about how evil the protesters are.

I can't even figure out why the GOP shills are going apeshiat over this.

Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Lots of demonizing, too. The derposhere is going crazy writing articles about how evil the protesters are.

I can't even figure out why the GOP shills are going apeshiat over this.

Honestly I think it is a sign that they believe they are losing control of the narrative, yes they still control the microphone, which is important, but the microphone isn't working as well as it has in the past and they don't like it.

Weaver95: I can't even figure out why the GOP shills are going apeshiat over this.

possibly because this seems more decentralized than the tea party. Which means that that conservatives can't astroturf it like they did with the tea party. So if they can't twist it for their own use, they have to try to destroy it.

So, they'll only be able to shut down Congress?

That sounds like a GOOD thing.

Zombie Jesus: Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Lots of demonizing, too. The derposhere is going crazy writing articles about how evil the protesters are.

I can't even figure out why the GOP shills are going apeshiat over this.

Honestly I think it is a sign that they believe they are losing control of the narrative, yes they still control the microphone, which is important, but the microphone isn't working as well as it has in the past and they don't like it.

maybe...I dunno. all I can gather is that the tea baggers don't like the OWS protests. which is really strange since the tea baggers - in theory anyways - have a lot of similar goals as the OWS crowd.

The Tea Party replaced an incumbent Republican Senator with an even more right-wing Republican Senator (in Utah).

They mobilized the Republican base to come out and vote in droves for the 2010 mid-terms.

They also probably lost the special election in NY for the Republicans, by delivering the primary to someone who was more right-wing than the district.
But then, they delivered the primary to someone who they agreed with ideologically.

OWS... remains to be seen. They are angry about the banks.

tallguywithglasseson:
OWS... remains to be seen. They are angry about the banks.

and apparently the banks are angry at the OWS protesters.

Yeah well a year ago no one would have predicted that a Tunisian fruit-seller would kick off a revolutionary fever across the Maghreb and Middle East, so STFU and let things play out on their own.

fusillade762: Marcus Aurelius: So, they'll only be able to shut down Congress?

That sounds like a GOOD thing.

I'm not sure anyone would notice.

it would be ironic indeed to see the teabaggers pissed off over an occupation party backed government shut down.

OWS is more like Fark and less like the Tea Party.

Lots of people with passionate views and a few that want to poop on things.

Probably the Tea Party's greatest achievement to date is keeping House Speaker John Boehner from agreeing to a debt-ceiling deal with President Obama that would have included a modest tax increase.

...and resulted in a loss of AAA status. Way to go, baggers! Nice "achievement!"

Meatzilla: I dunno... the Tea Party does not have the full unbridled support of the American Nazi Party like the Occupy Wall Street Party does. The Tea Party does not have the support of the Communist Party, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, or Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei either... like Occupy Wall Street does. Naturally, the American Socialist Party supports OCW and does not support the Tea Party. And, of course, antisemitism does not support the Tea Party while it certainly seems to be rampant in the Occupy Wall Street Party. So, I dunno... maybe the Occupy Wall Street Party will not have such a 'minimal' impact like the Tea Party allegedly does when all is said and done.

Seems to me that just about anyone and everyone that wants to see America destroyed supports the Occupy Wall Street Party.

You're so cute.

Do you always care so much for what these organizations say, or just now?

OWS stole my sandwich from the breakroom!

I watched two episodes, and it was unwatchably bad. Sad, really. There were a lot of boobs though.

what_now

Knife in the wrong watermelon.

Goddamnitsomuch.

what_now: I watched two episodes, and it was unwatchably bad. Sad, really. There were a lot of boobs though.

I'm going to try posting this in the Cindy Sheehan thread. I'll let you know how it goes.

Weaver95: FloydA: Which suits me just fine. The more stories there are about how it's just "a few disgruntled hippies" and "a flash in the pan," the more it will become obvious that OWS is neither of those.

these protests are world wide. even my hometown has a protest going. this thing is huge...and it's spreading. when I joined Occupy Harrisburg the first thing that hit me was how inclusive it was - old, young, gay, straight, republican, democrat, libertarian, green party...people of all stripes were there. it really does cut across our dividing lines.

Yeah. That's what makes the hegemony tremble. They have to be able to divide in order to conquer. They forgot you need to keep the middle class happy if you are going to continue to have an underclass to demonize. They got greedy and that will cost them.

My dad is an economist - definitely in the top 10% of income earners. Always been fairly conservative economically. Also he is usually touchingly optimistic. He's always been sure that the smart folks will keep the market from destroying itself. He no longer has that view. Every time I talk to him he's just bewildered by the stupidity of it all. He lost about 60% of his net worth in this mess. But that's not what he complains about. It's the absurdity of it that he can't get over.

Meanwhile all the MSM can come up with is hurr derr hippy stench. Really I expected better from Slate.

I don't get it. Everyone was pissed when the bailouts happened. I mean, really pissed. Then the banks did nothing but grow larger and play even more games, and gained even more money- all while everyone else got poorer or stagnated. Why are people hating on the OWS people?

Nadie_AZ: Why are people hating on the OWS people?

Fox, hell all the "liberal" media, told them to.

GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: Why are people hating on the OWS people?

Fox, hell all the "liberal" media, told them to.

But why? I mean, what is so wrong with being angry at the assholes that busted the economy. I mean, if these banks were paragons of virtue, they'd have looked at their books and said to themselves 'we should stop lending to people who can't afford these mortgages, they aren't paying', but they didn't. And they didn't because they had gamed the system.

And then, the man in charge of the money with the Government teamed up with the Fed and decided that they needed the Government to give these banks a shiat ton of money to save them and the economy. So you've got the Government, staffed by former bankers, sending all this money to these Banks. Why in the world would you line up and support them?

Nadie_AZ: But why? I mean, what is so wrong with being angry at the assholes that busted the economy. I mean, if these banks were paragons of virtue, they'd have looked at their books and said to themselves 'we should stop lending to people who can't afford these mortgages, they aren't paying', but they didn't. And they didn't because they had gamed the system.

Well sure, if you want to talk about it with logic and common sense, you could see it that way. Problem is, the ones in charge are good at controlling the message and making sure that the some of the people that they can fool all of the time remain fooled into thinking it must be someone else's fault.

Then you get angry at poor people who only thought that mechanics, fireman, teachers, manual workers of all fields and low wage workers could afford to own a home- just as their parents and grandparents had just a few decades ago.

I've heard lots of stories of people who earned a decent living working on the line or working jobs without a lot of education that were able to afford homes. Why wouldn't other Americans hear this and learn and believe they couldn't have it? Along comes Mr Bank that says 'yes, we can help you have your dream' and then trumpet that values will never ever ever fall! What would you do? Oh, I know. You'd live in a cardboard box and save for 50 years to own a shiat house and then would fix it up just so you could post online that you did it and f*ck those who didn't.

Right. No you wouldn't. You'd go for the dream. I know you would.

Nadie_AZ: I don't get it. Everyone was pissed when the bailouts happened. I mean, really pissed. Then the banks did nothing but grow larger and play even more games, and gained even more money- all while everyone else got poorer or stagnated. Why are people hating on the OWS people?

got me. I really don't understand the hatred the teabaggers have for the OWS crowd. it doesn't make much sense at all. they should be marching together in common cause.

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: I don't get it. Everyone was pissed when the bailouts happened. I mean, really pissed. Then the banks did nothing but grow larger and play even more games, and gained even more money- all while everyone else got poorer or stagnated. Why are people hating on the OWS people?

got me. I really don't understand the hatred the teabaggers have for the OWS crowd. it doesn't make much sense at all. they should be marching together in common cause.

This is exactly what I thought. Let the Tea Party say 'see, we told you so', and then join in with enthusiasm. This isn't political, this is economic. We are a society, which means we are socially united by contract. Which means we want each other to succeed to the point where we are willing to work together for that means. If anyone thinks that we aren't', then please don't get injured out in the wilderness. Because if you do, you might get volunteers coming out of nowhere to help rescue you and get you to safety so you can get medical care - no questions asked. No question of insurance, no question of citizenship status- none of it.

Americans care. They care just as other nations care for their own. You mean to tell me, those opposed to the OWS, that you don't care about America?

And if you really truly believe in 'Rugged Individualism', then try it. Go out into the wilderness and do it. Do it alone. Because, trust me, you won't last long. It is hard hard hard hard work, and I'm not talking long hours on the phone or computer. I mean long back breaking hours that cause your body to literally break down as you go.

Challenge: Name me 1 single person EVER that has done it without ANY help from other people whatsoever. ONE. Just ONE!

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: I don't get it. Everyone was pissed when the bailouts happened. I mean, really pissed. Then the banks did nothing but grow larger and play even more games, and gained even more money- all while everyone else got poorer or stagnated. Why are people hating on the OWS people?

got me. I really don't understand the hatred the teabaggers have for the OWS crowd. it doesn't make much sense at all. they should be marching together in common cause.

Jealous of all the attention?

And Dick Porenicke doesn't meet that challenge. He had food flown in regularly. And he was probably lucky not to run into a bear or get a broken bone or sickness.

And he didn't get any sex during his time.