subby is: SUV lovin' 'Murican, or successful troll for greenlight.


i wonder.

cmunic8r99: Nabb1: Also, as a practical matter, if you mod your car like that, you'll probably void the shiat out of your warranty.

I thought the Mangnuson-Moss Warranty Act covered this. IANAL, but I believe they wouldn't be able to void the warranty unless the modification was a direct cause of the problem that generated a claim.

Does that cover just cars or all products? I'm wondering about the preposterous attempts at making rooting your smartphone voids the warranty because it could somehow damage it. Correcting the issue is as easy as reflashing the phone, which takes all of 10 minutes and completely reverses the "harm"

jake_lex: [www.guitartutorialsnow.com image 300x283]

Approves

Nissan Leaf...
DONE DIRT CHEAP
Nissan Leaf...
DONE DIRT CHEAP
Nissan Leaf...
DONE DIRT CHEAP
Nissan Leaf charger done dirt cheap...
Nissan Leaf charger done dirt cheap...

/power chords...

Subby didn't read the article or simply didn't understand it. The "Hippie with Ph.D." figured out you can modify the stock 120V level 1 charger to act as a 240V level 2 charger saving the purchase of a $1000-2000 level 2 charger. The fast charger normally referred to as level 3 runs on 400V DC current, totally different.

Well just how that chord than.

That's a hippie?

im glad SOME people can figure out things


/Wife has PHD

//wife now getting EDD

///wife cant figure out NOTHING

Wait, Subby, are you telling me that it is cheaper to use your Electrical Engineering degree to come up with a DIY solution than to buy a commercial product with more features that has been rigorously tested by Underwriters Laboratories? Surely you jest!

Came from the promised power chords, left disappoint.

Hippie with Ph.D. figures out how that if you make $240 worth of modifications modiflications to the power chord that comes with the Nissan Leaf, you can save yourself from having to buy the $6,000 240-volt fast charge station. Tag is for Nissan


//sorry, pet peeve
//i figured out how that subby is a total moran

I liked Boston's power chords myself.

His gauge, which displays the actual state of charge, reveals that the Leaf dashboard's "zero bars" display comes on when the battery pack has several miles remaining.

I suspect this was a deliberate design choice, so that idiots who run the car down to empty still have a little bit left to get them somewhere safe and recharge.

When my car's gas light comes on, and the fuel tank gauge says empty, I still have 15% of the tank left. Why would I modify that to wait until the car was at 0?

This would have been a great write-up for hack-a-day.com, but the guy is afraid of saying it's a "hack" because that sounds evil.

A hack is exactly what this is! He found a way to prevent the big auto from gouging money from it's customers by modifying their own product to remove obscurely secured proprietary systems.

Believe it or not, Nissan (or any other company) doesn't give a damn about oil, gas mileage, or the environment. Until that is, it hits them in the one thing that matters to them, the bottom line.

They care about the environment when EPA fines their @$$ and it costs them money.
They care about you when you goto a competitor and it costs them money.
They care about gas mileage, when people stop buying, because their products aren't worth the operating costs or they can't meet government regulations to stay in business, and that costs money.

The image they project to the consumer is a fine balance of keep them happy/take their money/don't loose money.
Businesses are in the business of making money, and [usually] not much else.
They "help the environment", or "donate to non profits" or "give workers benefits" because, in the end, it somehow affects their bottom line.

So keep Hackin!

/stupid hippies

Hollie Maea: Wait, Subby, are you telling me that it is cheaper to use your Electrical Engineering degree to come up with a DIY solution than to buy a commercial product with more features that has been rigorously tested by Underwriters Laboratories? Surely you jest!

Minus the cost of the Electrical Engineering degree...

But yeah, the modified unit is obviously not UL approved and under certain conditions using it violates the National Electric Code (625.13). Use at your own risk I suppose.

I can save a lot of money ignoring codes and safety standards too, Subby!
=Smidge=

I'm looking forward to the day when EV battery packs and control systems start hitting the aftermarket... Those could be a real boon to homebrew power generation experimenters.

Need a well documented, off-the-shelf, mass-produced high capacity power storage system? Ta dah!

It might also be neat if you could refit a hybrid to act as a home emergency generator.

wutchamacallem: Well just how that chord than.

How that chord indeed.

Smidge204:

I can save a lot of money ignoring codes and safety standards too, Subby!
=Smidge=

One doesn't *have* to ignore safety standards in order to do custom electrical work you know...

Yes, it's not something any Harry Homeowner should do, but if you know what you're doing, well.... More power to ya.

Same thing happened to me and my Mustang (my 'Stang as I call it when it's just me and my bros). Ford put this lame smog pump on there that pretty much does nothing. I took it off and threw it in the woods, and now my car gets a couple more miles to the gallon. Engineers? More like enginerds.

I'm sure that discharging the batteries more then they were programmed to be discharged couldn't possibly negative effects at all on the battery life.

/discharging most batteries completely reduces the batteries lifespan.
//So does overcharging.
///Ii-ions vent with flame when overcharged.

"In these groups, we become friends and comrades,"

GD commies

Isn't it harmful to the batteries to completely discharge them?

Power chords!

majestic: Isn't it harmful to the batteries to completely discharge them?

If that is true; there should be a mechanism that prevents the car from driving. As it is, it will just display 'zero' and allow you to continue driving.

Fark_Guy_Rob: majestic: Isn't it harmful to the batteries to completely discharge them?

If that is true; there should be a mechanism that prevents the car from driving. As it is, it will just display 'zero' and allow you to continue driving.


Then you wouldn't run your batteries dead and have to buy more.

maxheck: Smidge204:

I can save a lot of money ignoring codes and safety standards too, Subby!
=Smidge=

One doesn't *have* to ignore safety standards in order to do custom electrical work you know...

Yes, it's not something any Harry Homeowner should do, but if you know what you're doing, well.... More power to ya.

I've done basic electrical work.

I didn't ignore safety standards.
I did have it inspected and approved by the city.

Saved a small fortune.

Handsome B. Wonderful: When my car's gas light comes on, and the fuel tank gauge says empty, I still have 15% of the tank left. Why would I modify that to wait until the car was at 0?

It doesn't work like that. You know that when the light comes on you have 15% left. But what if you drive a bit then shut it off and someone else starts driving. Do you have 14% left or 2%?

This is like having a second gas gauge that is only active when it's "Empty" but with a better resolution. That way when the "Zero" bars come on the person driving can decide "Yeah, I can make it 10 miles home" or "I should probably find a parking lot and a tow truck instead of getting stuck on the highway"

b2theory: That is by design Dr. Giddings. The engineers who built the gauge probably had to deal with the constraints of accounting for car's full temperature range and battery degredation. You also have to account for user noise (actual design term). Drivers tend to drive the things until you tell them not to. Nissan probably didn't want the thing to come to a dead stop when the tank read EMPTY.

I encourage you to sift through he posts on the mynissanleaf.com forums. Of course it's by design - but it's not a terribly convenient design for advanced users. May EV enthusiasts consider an accurate SOC meter to be an essential, and the behavior of both the range and SOC readouts on the LEAF's dash are somewhat erratic.

When the "Very Low Battery" warning comes up you can have either a few miles or a few thousand feet worth of driving left. Since you can't just walk to the nearest station and pick up a can of electrons it's kind of important to know exactly what your situation is.


maxheck: Yes, it's not something any Harry Homeowner should do, but if you know what you're doing, well.... More power to ya.

It breaks the UL rating and violates Article 625.13 of the NEC. By definition it is ignoring safety standards. This is not to say it's unsafe when properly done, just that it ignores standards.


majestic: Isn't it harmful to the batteries to completely discharge them?

Fark_Guy_Rob: If that is true; there should be a mechanism that prevents the car from driving. As it is, it will just display 'zero' and allow you to continue driving.

Even with that device (which is really just an add-on meter) the car will not let you damage the batteries by over-draining them. The car will disable the drive output before you reach that point, and you will roll to a stop (most other things, such as steering and brakes, have alternate power supplies). Nobody is interested in removing that safety cap, by the way.
=Smidge=