fickle floridian: Well that should make a 9-hour sit on the tarmac interesting.

Ryanair generally operates from airports where they are the only take off in a six hour window. They do not hang about. I've never had to wait.

Teknowaffle: I am amazed there hasn't been a RyanAir crash. When there is I am sure it will be because they realized that they only needed half the number of rivets on the wings.

/but it was in the interest of lowering prices, so it is all good.

I doubt there is any airline anywhere in the world that has a fleet as new as Ryanair.

Ryanair average age of fleet 3.6 years.
Delta 15.3 years.
United 13.9 years.
Southwest 15.3 years.
Cathay Pacific 11 years.
British Airways 12.4 years.
Easyjet (Ryanairs main rival) 14.5 years.

Yeah, I'll stick with Ryanair. If you travel light and don't mind landing a few miles from where you want to go (which actually makes getting to the airport and checking in etc far easier anyway) then they are great.

From here.

GAT_00: Flint Ironstag: I doubt there is any airline anywhere in the world that has a fleet as new as Ryanair.

Doesn't matter for shiat when it comes against maintenance. They cut costs on everything else. Does anyone actually think they treat maintenance, preventative maintenance, as seriously as any other airline? They take costcutting to an unhealthy extreme.

They have an excellent safety record, so that suggests they are doing something right. I think that (apart from the legal and moral reasons!) they realise that good maintenance reduces costs. And with a fleet that new they are only going to be needing routine stuff in most cases anyway.

GAT_00: Flint Ironstag: I doubt there is any airline anywhere in the world that has a fleet as new as Ryanair.

Doesn't matter for shiat when it comes against maintenance. They cut costs on everything else. Does anyone actually think they treat maintenance, preventative maintenance, as seriously as any other airline? They take costcutting to an unhealthy extreme.

Also, there have been many documented cases of US airlines taking shortcuts to save money that have ended up causing crashes. Alaska airlines where a supervisor actually overrode an engineer who said the elevator control should be replaced due to wear and it failed a few months later and killed everyone on board? The AA flight that lost it's engine because the mechanics had come up with their own shortcut in engine removal, also killed everyone on board.
And Air France was told to replace the pitot tubes on all it's planes long before 447 went down but hadn't got round to it....

So being a major carrier is certainly not a guarantee that shortcuts won't be taken.

GAT_00: Flint Ironstag: They have an excellent safety record

Yet your own argument is that they are less likely to have problems because they have a young fleet. You're just assuming they have good maintenance.

To be fair, their main rival Easyjet has a much older fleet but also an excellent record.

My personal safety tip? Fly direct where possible and avoid small regional feeders. They have the inexperienced pilots and they are made to work long hours and sleep on the couch in the crew room.

I should add that "Small regional feeders" often have the same name as the big carrier they feed to, but they are not the same company.

Have you tried their bus line?

I can think of no way this wouldn't make all ryanair flights at least 10% sexier.

They can just pull over and pee on the side of the cloud, right?

Anyone else think of "Come Fly With Me" after the mention of RyanAir?

On other airlines "you're in my seat" is sometimes uttered by passengers.

On Ryanair the similar phrase "urine in my seat" may become more familiar.

Next cost saving move: taking the wings off the airplane. Ryanair Bus.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: On other airlines "you're in my seat" is sometimes uttered by passengers.

On Ryanair the similar phrase "urine in my seat" may become more familiar.

Your're going to be here all week?? What? I should try the veal?

Right next to the airsickness bag. Only $1.00 each.

The first time someone has a sudden diarrhea attack mid-flight (and it's not a matter of if but when), methinks the EU is going to make them put them back in in a hurry. There's a reason pay toilets are not a thing.

Just a little correction to your headline subby... they're not trying to save money, they want to remove the restrooms to add more seats, which would make them money.

Next up: 150 Passengers, One Cup.

Ryanair is fantastic.

I was stationed overseas for a few years, and they have the cheapest flights to places, all fairly quick (although, when you're stationed in Germany, nothing is *that* far away...)

I think it always seems ridiculous to people over here because they're imagining 'long' domestic flights (5+ hours), or overseas flights (8-10+ hours). Personally, I took several flights through Ryanair, and I don't think I was on the plane more than a couple hours on any of my trips. Heck, Dublin was only like 2, 2.5 hrs. Ryanair was always the best way to get somewhere cheap on a 4-day weekend.

Part of Ryanair's publicity approach is to periodically announce wild ideas which never come to fruition. More at 11.

GAT_00: Which only furthers the argument that if major carriers do it, how much maintenance is the king of cost-cutting going to do?

Ryanair doesn't save money by not doing maintenance (its incident record reflects this) it saves money by doing its own maintenance. They've two enormous sheds at Prestwick, trading as Prestwick Aircraft Maintenance Ltd.

There are a great many reasons not to fly Ryanair, first amongst those being that they're often no cheaper than prime carriers by the time you've paid the additional charges, but their aircraft dropping out of the skies is not one of them.

You know, I could understand putting ads inside of your cabin for the extra change. I can understand putting the safety instructions on the back of the seat so you don't have to print a pamphlet.



But it's like they're TRYING to make the cabin eye-searing and unpleasant. They could do all their cost-cutting and not have a cabin that looks like it's designed as a barf-proof hose-downable daycare bus.

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But it's like they're TRYING to make the cabin eye-searing and unpleasant. They could do all their cost-cutting and not have a cabin that looks like it's designed as a barf-proof hose-downable daycare bus.

Lost of wasted vertical space there, if you ask me. How about getting rid of the overhead storage bins and adding a second layer of seats atop the first ones. You're sitting down for the flight anyway, so how hard is it to have passengers duck down when getting to or leaving their seats?

Kinmuan is right about flight times. Their most popular route (STN DUB) is only 75 minutes.

Lux Lambert: They could do all their cost-cutting and not have a cabin that looks like it's designed as a barf-proof hose-downable daycare bus.

It's designed to ferry British holiday makers to the south of Spain. It is a barf-proof hose-downable bus.

It's shiat like this that makes me unspeakably glad when I can book Virgin or JetBlue.

$15 diapers
$30 diaper changing room access
$5 diaper disposal fee

sithon: Diapers for everyone.



There is nothing more likely to revive the notion of train and passenger ship travel than the current business model of airlines.

Combine the difficulty of getting a car to an airport, the mandatory security derp and the mandatory "arrive three hours early to leave three hours later, and remember to avoid fibre" nonsense, and trains, where they exist and don't need to cross oceans, actually run neck and neck. I slept on the last train I was on, a real, restorative sleep. On a plane? Can't recall, but usually the smell keeps me awake.

An airliner toilet not only takes up a few seats worth of space, it also weighs much more than the seats and people.

Considering how cheap their air fares are I'd be willing to take a shiat before flying and fly a little dehydrated.

You know who else liked to pack as many people as possible into a conveyance and not provide adequate bathroom facilities?

Props for the clown car.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: You know who else liked to pack as many people as possible into a conveyance and not provide adequate bathroom facilities?

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AAAAAAAAH!!! That truck is filled with Slendermen!

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Wow, a Slave ship full of Negros, a cattle car full of Juden, a truckload of illegal messicans, and a clown car all in one post. You sir win an internets.

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The passengers for the rail company were one-way and one-time only though.

/aisle seat

sithon: Standing room only? Is that legal? For short hops it might be ok like the bus.

The last time I was on the bus, the bus driver told everyone not to smoke. Of course, some crackwhore from Baltimore decided to light up a cigarette in the bathroom thus stinking up the entire bus.

If you read TFA, they're not getting rid of all the toilets, just two of the three.

For two hour trips, I don't really see the problem. I think most people us the restroom at the airport before they board the plane, regardless of how many toilets are on the plane.

Flint Ironstag: Teknowaffle: I am amazed there hasn't been a RyanAir crash. When there is I am sure it will be because they realized that they only needed half the number of rivets on the wings.

/but it was in the interest of lowering prices, so it is all good.

I doubt there is any airline anywhere in the world that has a fleet as new as Ryanair.

Ryanair average age of fleet 3.6 years.
Delta 15.3 years.
United 13.9 years.
Southwest 15.3 years.
Cathay Pacific 11 years.
British Airways 12.4 years.
Easyjet (Ryanairs main rival) 14.5 years.

Yeah, I'll stick with Ryanair. If you travel light and don't mind landing a few miles from where you want to go (which actually makes getting to the airport and checking in etc far easier anyway) then they are great.

From here.

Frontier's is only 6 years
Horizon's is only 5.7 years

Ok. How long is it going to take to clean up the mess inside one of their aircraft? Going to be a lot of "down time" after a longer than normal flight and a huge expense for febreeze.