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2011-10-16 11:58:00 AM  
images.buddytv.com
 
2011-10-16 12:11:11 PM  

BMulligan: I grew up in the 70's. Who's the "voice" of my generation? Barry Manilow? KC, with or without his Sunshine Band? It's depressing.


The Nuge.
 
2011-10-16 12:11:41 PM  

Cyrusv10: A-hem
I, for one, think Jacob Dylan is ugly and looks like a horse.
[www.jakobdylan.com image 375x465]


Jakob Dylan is hot. I challenge you to a duel.
 
2011-10-16 12:13:25 PM  

Gosling: If there's a protest band for this generation coming out of this, it's going to come out of the Death Cab For Cutie sector of the industry. Sure as hell isn't going to be Dylan-esque.



I'm a living sunset, lightning in my bones/Push me to the edge, but my will is stone ... (new window)


saffronrobe: I think even Bob Dylan would agree we need another Woody Guthrie more than we need another Dylan.



So come back Woody Guthrie/Come back to us now/Tear your eyes from paradise/And rise again somehow... (new window)
 
2011-10-16 12:16:40 PM  
Cause, what the world needs now
is another folk singer
like I need a hole in my head.
 
2011-10-16 12:22:39 PM  
Rebecca Black might still surprise us, although I've not heard that she's gotten involved with OWS yet.
 
2011-10-16 12:29:06 PM  

BloodySaxon: Exactly. His world is so simple. It's always the mega corporate conspiracies.


Oh, by the way, I've had plenty of headaches with unions. They absolutely are not perfect institutions. And am part owner of a corporation (s-corp. Admittedly a pretty small one). But you go on and fight against the imaginary Skleenar you think you're fighting.
You're doing a bang up job.
 
2011-10-16 12:33:43 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: I'd like to take this moment to plug Immortal Technique. He did a damn sight better summing up the OWS protests than most of the protesters could.


Word to Immortal Technique.
 
2011-10-16 12:43:09 PM  
Nice to know that Dylan-haters show up a regularly as the sun rises in the east.

As for the protests: they are 'sound and fury signifying nothing'.

People who refuse to accept responsibility for making poor life decisions;
having a Masters degree in feminist theory regarding women's toilet facilities in the 17th century isn't any way to get a job.

The job market is not required to find you a job of your choosing; if your skills, abilities and experience don't match up you won't be hired no matter how much you hang in a park in a drum circle.

And yeah, I DO know what I'm talking about because I was under-employed from many, many, many months.
 
2011-10-16 12:48:52 PM  

douchebag/hater: having a Masters degree in feminist theory regarding women's toilet facilities in the 17th century isn't any way to get a job.


though I realise you're a troll, I see this excuse get brought up a lot. Granted, I have no sympathy for anyone with such a degree and the debt associated with it, but how common is this kind of major? "Straw Man" doesn't sound correct, but it's the closest I label this kind of argument as.
 
2011-10-16 12:50:07 PM  
I wouldn't mind having a new Bob Dylan, but the problem is that to find one Dylan you have to sift through a couple of Joan Baezes and quite a few Peter, Paul and Marys, and I'm just not willing to do that.
 
2011-10-16 12:50:13 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: BMulligan: I grew up in the 70's. Who's the "voice" of my generation? Barry Manilow? KC, with or without his Sunshine Band? It's depressing.

The Nuge.


Jesus. It's worse than I thought.
 
2011-10-16 12:52:42 PM  

BMulligan: She comes in colors everywhere: BMulligan: I grew up in the 70's. Who's the "voice" of my generation? Barry Manilow? KC, with or without his Sunshine Band? It's depressing.

The Nuge.

Jesus. It's worse than I thought.


You think that's bad...

I was raised during the late 90's and 2000's. The voice of my generation are whatever the advertisers wanted and more often than not they sounded like crap. I'd even take 80's music over this crap.
 
2011-10-16 12:58:31 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I was raised during the late 90's and 2000's. The voice of my generation are whatever the advertisers wanted and more often than not they sounded like crap.




cdn.crushable.com

My Generation, indeed.
 
2011-10-16 01:05:58 PM  
No one thinks Magnum playing again - in any capacity - is cool?
No one noticed his first song is a cover of the Minutemen's "Themselves"?
 
2011-10-16 01:15:47 PM  
Obviously Salon doesn't know Dylan from Schmylan.

Dylan was a pop star. Period.

Too many people still think he was something else.
 
2011-10-16 01:29:22 PM  

GAT_00: I hope not. The guy couldn't sing for shiat. Dylan as a new artist today would just write songs and sell them.

The best Dylan songs? Every single one of them better sung by someone else. But he can write.


Maaaaaaybe he wouuUUUuuuld just autotuuuuUUUuuune theeeeEeeem.
 
2011-10-16 01:29:55 PM  

douchebag/hater: ...The job market is not required to find you a job of your choosing; if your skills, abilities and experience don't match up you won't be hired no matter how much you hang in a park in a drum circle.

And yeah, I DO know what I'm talking about because I was under-employed from many, many, many months.



Only partly true, but I think this is far, far from the whole truth. Many job openings are going unfilled and many job seekers can't land the job they want, but what does the data say -- which number's bigger? What's the economy writ large up to? Will the number of job openings of any kind approach the number of job seekers? If not, why not?

And who's going to have a good shot at the good jobs of the future? Or the present for that matter? While kids growing up in places like Ozaukee/Washington/Waukesha counties in households that are doing well financially won't have too many roadblocks in their way, is public policy/political will & funding for public primary-secondary-postsecondary education going to allow kids living everywhere else in less well-off households to get ahead?

I think the Occupy movements are more of a reaction to an economy that financialization turned into something that fundamentally doesn't make any real sense than it is a collection of whiny kids who didn't choose college majors thoughtfully, as the wingnut narrative would have us believe.

My opinion, they only need to be more articulate and coherent, that's all.
 
2011-10-16 01:32:03 PM  
OWS is a decentralized movement, and we're living in a world where musical tastes are deeply fractured and diverse. There's not going to be one musical (or otherwise) voice to speak for a generation and to say so is proof that Slate/MSM doesn't really understand OWS and are too lazy to be well-versed in modern radical movements.

/I'd vote Kanye

douchebag/hater: Nice to know that Dylan-haters show up a regularly as the sun rises in the east.

As for the protests: they are 'sound and fury signifying nothing'.

People who refuse to accept responsibility for making poor life decisions;
having a Masters degree in feminist theory regarding women's toilet facilities in the 17th century isn't any way to get a job.

The job market is not required to find you a job of your choosing; if your skills, abilities and experience don't match up you won't be hired no matter how much you hang in a park in a drum circle.

And yeah, I DO know what I'm talking about because I was under-employed from many, many, many months.


You do know that it's not just liberal arts majors asking for free jobs and hand-outs don't you? The protests are about concerns over disparity between the rich and the poor, destructive deregulation, the "too big to fail" size of corporations, and the unfair influence businesses have over government. I can't call any of those causes indignant.
 
2011-10-16 01:32:12 PM  
Even Dylan told the hippies to fark off after a while.
 
2011-10-16 01:54:41 PM  
I think Bob Dylan sounds like Buckwheat.
 
2011-10-16 01:56:47 PM  
Also, it sadly bears mentioning that most music these days bears little or no resemblance to Dylan.

/thread
 
2011-10-16 02:03:00 PM  
Wow, Bob Roberts and Pain of Salvation in the same thread. I'm somewhat impressed by that.

/Bob Roberts may be one of the single most cynical movies I've ever seen. If I weren't fresh out of high school when I first saw it I would have had a drink after watching it. Good though.
// PoS needs more love
 
2011-10-16 02:03:10 PM  

Lunaville: Protest Music? I'd prefer a new form of journalism: one that doesn't turn any and every issue into an irrelevant fluff piece.


OMFG This!
 
2011-10-16 02:05:12 PM  

Lord Binky: // PoS needs more love


If their fan club isn't the "Pain of Salvation Army", they need a new publicist.
 
2011-10-16 02:05:12 PM  
I like Dylan's earlier stuff, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol, for example. Sure, his voice isn't the best but that's not why I listen to him. If I want to listen to a signer with a nice voice I'll put on something by Adele or possibly Gackt (my musical tastes are all over the place lol). It's the emotion that he uses when singing about his subject that I like.
 
2011-10-16 02:08:10 PM  

platedlizard: Sure, his voice isn't the best but that's not why I listen to him.


To be fair, his voice is really good on "Planet Waves" and "Blood on the Tracks" so I always get a kick out of anyone who complains about his singing, because obviously they're not fans.
 
2011-10-16 02:15:06 PM  
Does anyone care? Oh, yeah, the mass media, who would like any damned thing to talk about except the substance of our movement.

/Listening to a lot of System of a Down and late-era Ministry, as far as relevant music goes
 
2011-10-16 02:17:55 PM  
Would we want another one? Bob Dylan sucks. You might think I'm trolling, but no. I really HATE this guy's music.
 
2011-10-16 02:19:04 PM  
We don't care.
 
2011-10-16 02:23:06 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Would we want another one? Bob Dylan sucks. You might think I'm trolling, but no. I really HATE this guy's music.


Bob Dylan is much better than he sounds.
 
2011-10-16 02:23:10 PM  

grimnir: I think Bob Dylan sounds like Buckwheat.


You're unce, tice, fee times a mady....
 
2011-10-16 02:32:39 PM  

whidbey: We don't care a lot .

 
2011-10-16 02:33:39 PM  

LewDux: whidbey: We don't care a lot .


Also we are human not a dancer
 
2011-10-16 02:35:51 PM  
At least he doesn't sing like the guy on "Epic."
 
2011-10-16 02:42:17 PM  

whidbey: At least he doesn't sing like the guy on "Epic."


Are you... talking shiat about Faith No More?

28.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-10-16 02:42:43 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Does anyone care? Oh, yeah, the mass media, who would like any damned thing to talk about except the substance of our movement.

/Listening to a lot of System of a Down and late-era Ministry, as far as relevant music goes


-WHAT HOT NEW FASHIONS ARE OVERTAKING OWS? THREE WORDS: KEFFIYEH, KEFFIYEH, KEFFIYEH!
 
2011-10-16 02:46:36 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: whidbey: At least he doesn't sing like the guy on "Epic."

Are you... talking shiat about Faith No More?

[28.media.tumblr.com image 260x150]


I'd much prefer early Soundgarden...but I've never really been that big a fan of metal.
*gasp*

But I was referring to FNM's earlier singer, and I do like that song/style more.
 
2011-10-16 02:49:50 PM  

whidbey: At least he doesn't sing like the guy on "Epic."


You should like this (new window, grooveshark). At least first sentence
 
2011-10-16 02:50:44 PM  
"Oh hey guys, what's going on in this thread?"
www.maximumink.com
 
2011-10-16 03:03:53 PM  

tomWright: After all the accusations of the Tea Party being a bunch of Nazi's, it is very telling just who the American Nazi Party endorses (new window).


Your friends say a lot about who you are.

/Not that fark would green something so damning of the left.


Are you the biggest idiot alive? The Nazi post clearly states that the 99ers are doing it wrong because they aren't going after capitalist jews. They have never criticised the tea-party to my knowledge. Oh, and they actually showed up at their rallies. Find any skinheads at OWS?

Communists, Ill give you. They don't scare me nearly as much because they'll never fully get their way. And their fun to debate with.
 
2011-10-16 03:17:05 PM  

authenticryan: tomWright: After all the accusations of the Tea Party being a bunch of Nazi's, it is very telling just who the American Nazi Party endorses (new window).


Your friends say a lot about who you are.

/Not that fark would green something so damning of the left.

Are you the biggest idiot alive? The Nazi post clearly states that the 99ers are doing it wrong because they aren't going after capitalist jews. They have never criticised the tea-party to my knowledge. Oh, and they actually showed up at their rallies. Find any skinheads at OWS?

Communists, Ill give you. They don't scare me nearly as much because they'll never fully get their way. And their fun to debate with.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskin_(subculture)
 
2011-10-16 03:26:36 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: douchebag/hater: having a Masters degree in feminist theory regarding women's toilet facilities in the 17th century isn't any way to get a job.

though I realise you're a troll, I see this excuse get brought up a lot. Granted, I have no sympathy for anyone with such a degree and the debt associated with it, but how common is this kind of major? "Straw Man" doesn't sound correct, but it's the closest I label this kind of argument as.


Yes, but the narrative that the entire movement can be stereotyped by about 2% of its members is very comforting to him. It temporarily dispels his terror of the inevitable change that is coming, and at the same time permits him to hold in contempt people who possess both more guts and more integrity than he does.
 
2011-10-16 03:29:49 PM  
Things are different now - franchising rules over art, especially if you need the cash to get your own digs instead of boomeranging back to mommy and daddy.

Try shoe design or gourmet booze. If Dylan were young today, he'd probably have to hustle like that.

/Sarcasm is relative
 
2011-10-16 03:49:00 PM  
Farking honkys, hip hop is protest music.
 
2011-10-16 03:55:52 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: Farking honkys, hip hop is protest music.


Really? Most of what I hear on Street Sounds is about smoking weed..;-p
 
2011-10-16 04:04:55 PM  
ok I'll do it (new window)
 
2011-10-16 04:05:58 PM  
I'd rather see a new Phil Ochs than a new Dylan.
 
2011-10-16 04:12:51 PM  
.

whidbey: brainiac-dumdum: Farking honkys, hip hop is protest music.

Really? Most of what I hear on Street Sounds is about smoking weed..;-p


perfect hip hop protest song for OWS (new window)

Yes, you have to listen and report back.
 
2011-10-16 04:17:39 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: Yes, you have to listen and report back.


Maybe later. You seem to miss the point of the headline, which seems to imply that because of OWS there could be another "Dylan"

/whoever he was
//the man ain't got no culture
 
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