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(Slate) PSA Do you have inquisitive children that are huge Star Wars fans but are flummoxed by the prequels? Here's a guide for parents to handle the strain of the prequels without having to watch them   (slate.com) divider line 53
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2011-10-15 11:01:57 AM
That was a fun read.

(-o-)
 
2011-10-15 12:37:34 PM
Good grief, mark it for spoilers next time.
 
2011-10-15 12:44:25 PM
funcorner.eu
 
2011-10-15 12:45:49 PM
People don't use the word "flummoxed" nearly often enough.
 
2011-10-15 12:52:00 PM
Umm...Nubian refers to someone form the planet Nubia?

I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that
 
2011-10-15 12:57:32 PM
ActionJoe: Umm...Nubian refers to someone form the planet Nubia?

I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that


Planet Nubia (new window)

In The Phantom Menace, the Royal Naboo Starship is referred to as a "Nubian", leaving many fans to assume[source?] that "Nubian" was an alternate adjectival form of "Naboo". Later sources, however, identified Nubia as its own separate planet, and the homophonic similarities between the two worlds are coincidental.

/For the record, I had no idea the planet existed either (and didn't really care either way)
 
2011-10-15 01:07:33 PM
Want some pizza rolls?
 
2011-10-15 01:10:26 PM
scottydoesntknow: ActionJoe: Umm...Nubian refers to someone form the planet Nubia?

I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that

Planet Nubia (new window)

In The Phantom Menace, the Royal Naboo Starship is referred to as a "Nubian", leaving many fans to assume[source?] that "Nubian" was an alternate adjectival form of "Naboo". Later sources, however, identified Nubia as its own separate planet, and the homophonic similarities between the two worlds are coincidental.

/For the record, I had no idea the planet existed either (and didn't really care either way)


What's a Nubian?
 
2011-10-15 01:11:25 PM
Fano: What's a Nubian?

I don't know, but I'm sure they're very attractive and successful
 
2011-10-15 01:13:19 PM
I have the DVD set of the original three films. Also have the day off. Am tempted to grab a 12pk. of beer and waste the entire day revisiting my childhood.

Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl. But the original series is just farking phenomenal, and even better once you consider the tech they were working with 30+ years ago. This was real artistry and imagination, not some hacks relying on computers to mask a lack of talent.

/is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.
 
2011-10-15 01:18:19 PM
dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.

I think what I read is that the original script written by Lucas read "I love you, too" but nobody on the set liked the line so they asked Harrison Ford to try out different variations. In the end, Lucas still wanted the original, but the director decided to go with the time they did "I know" instead. He didn't just do it out of the blue, is my understanding, but did several takes in cooperation with everyone else and we wound up with that. I don't have a source, though.
 
2011-10-15 01:20:34 PM
dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it

Yes, he was supposed to say "I love you too", but he felt that wasn't something Han would actually say. Ford was pretty good at improvisation if it was needed. See also: Indiana Jones swordfight scene
 
2011-10-15 01:21:53 PM
lordlight: [funcorner.eu image 500x375]

Could someone point me to the original thread where these started popping up? I'd love to see how they started.
 
2011-10-15 01:23:04 PM
FTA:

Q: Does R2-D2 sleep?
A: Yes. R2-D2 always goes to sleep quickly without asking for water.

Awesome
 
2011-10-15 01:23:48 PM
dickfreckle: Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl.

You know, it's sad people have to say this when referencing sci-fi movies.
I don't tell people I'm watching football and believe it or not, I don't drink beer or hit my wife.

"I'm watching Nascar today.", but no, I don't live in a trailer and I've never made-out with my cousin.
 
2011-10-15 01:47:01 PM
Lunchlady: FTA:

Q: Does R2-D2 sleep?
A: Yes. R2-D2 always goes to sleep quickly without asking for water.

Awesome


HAHAHA. That is awesome.

/my kids enjoy watching the original movies at least as much as the prequels, and my son knows enough just to watch from the "Duel of the Fates" chapter in the Phantom Menace because the rest of the movie is pointless
 
2011-10-15 01:47:30 PM
Zombie DJ: dickfreckle: Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl.

You know, it's sad people have to say this when referencing sci-fi movies.
I don't tell people I'm watching football and believe it or not, I don't drink beer or hit my wife.

"I'm watching Nascar today.", but no, I don't live in a trailer and I've never made-out with my cousin.


You should make out with your cousin. She's hot.
 
2011-10-15 01:49:02 PM
Zombie DJ: dickfreckle: Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl.

You know, it's sad people have to say this when referencing sci-fi movies.
I don't tell people I'm watching football and believe it or not, I don't drink beer or hit my wife.

"I'm watching Nascar today.", but no, I don't live in a trailer and I've never made-out with my cousin.


C'mon man, I was just making a joke and furthering a silly stereotype most of us know isn't true. I know for a fact that Star Wars folks have real jobs, often hot wives, and are normal people.

You bringing up football does touch a similar nerve, though. If you poke around the sports tab you'll see that some of Fark's most notorious liberals are also the biggest NFL fans. For some reason, society thinks that football fans are behemoths that club women when they're ready for sex. I'm the libbiest lib that ever libtarded but every Sunday you'll find me surrounded by several screens and a self-refreshing stat page. Also, beer.

I can't speak for NASCAR, because I don't follow it. But I have been to a race (it was awesome, btw - not so much on TV). The people I met might think Fartbama is a mooslin, but I wouldn't know. We just had a great time.
 
2011-10-15 02:07:07 PM
FarktheHeraldAngelSings: Want some pizza rolls?

Yes, thank you. And there's nothing wrong with my face.
 
2011-10-15 02:08:19 PM
scottydoesntknow: Yes, he was supposed to say "I love you too", but he felt that wasn't something Han would actually say. Ford was pretty good at improvisation if it was needed. See also: Indiana Jones swordfight scene

Not true. There was a pretty good article on Fark recently that talked about the evolution of much of Empire and that scene in particular. The director, Ford, and some others were workshopping it for a while before they came up with the line. It was not improv'd.
 
2011-10-15 02:14:40 PM
Zombie DJ: I don't tell people I'm watching football and believe it or not, I don't drink beer or hit my wife.

So does that mean you *do* drink beer and hit your wife?
 
2011-10-15 02:18:31 PM
dickfreckle: C'mon man, I was just making a joke and furthering a silly stereotype most of us know isn't true.

Oh, I know.
/I also dress like a sandtrooper in the 501st and have gooten weird emails from Mom's who saw me. Very weird emails.

CarnySaur: Zombie DJ: I don't tell people I'm watching football and believe it or not, I don't drink beer or hit my wife.

So does that mean you *do* drink beer and hit your wife?


I don't need beer to hit my wife.
Um...I mean...
 
2011-10-15 02:43:23 PM
Q: What does R2-D2 eat?
A: Broccoli.
Q: Does R2-D2 sleep?
A: Yes. R2-D2 always goes to sleep quickly without asking for water.


Got a big smile out of me.
 
2011-10-15 02:50:08 PM
ActionJoe: I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that


Oh for Chrissakes, get over it. Besides some questionable dialog and acting, the Prequels were hardly as bad as you drama queens make it out to be.

I hope all your kids come to you and declare that they love the prequels more than the original trilogy. It'd be like a Baptist's kid telling them that they're gay.
 
2011-10-15 02:58:11 PM
Fano: scottydoesntknow: ActionJoe: Umm...Nubian refers to someone form the planet Nubia?

I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that

Planet Nubia (new window)

In The Phantom Menace, the Royal Naboo Starship is referred to as a "Nubian", leaving many fans to assume[source?] that "Nubian" was an alternate adjectival form of "Naboo". Later sources, however, identified Nubia as its own separate planet, and the homophonic similarities between the two worlds are coincidental.

/For the record, I had no idea the planet existed either (and didn't really care either way)

What's a Nubian?


i105.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-15 03:01:52 PM
Coincidentally, my 12 year old came up to me not even an hour ago and said, "Okay, so Darth Vader reveals himself as Luke's Father in the SECOND Star Wars Movie made, right? But this movie is now known as Episode V, right?"

I nod my head, barely paying attention as I continue my Fark-surfing.

Then he blurts out, "Then that must suck for the younger kids today because they're so used to watching things 'in order' so they'll watch Episodes I-III and they'll already KNOW that Darth Vader is Luke's dad because the people who made the movies assume that everyone had already seen Episodes IV-VI. So that would totally ruin the reveal in Episode V!"

(Note: Son wasn't that eloquent with his argument as presented but that was definitely his main gist.)

I finally tore myself away from reading the latest "A modified toilet roller? Wow. Just wow." thread and told him:

"Blame George Lucas."

His response: "Well, George Lucas sucks then."

I sighed and responded with: "I've raised you well, son."
 
2011-10-15 03:07:50 PM
Wretschko:

I finally tore myself away from reading the latest "A modified toilet roller? Wow. Just wow." thread and told him:

"Blame George Lucas."

His response: "Well, George Lucas sucks then."

I sighed and responded with: "I've raised you well, son."


If only you could have rasped that through a breathing device of some sort, in the voice of James Earl Jones.
 
2011-10-15 03:12:50 PM
Wretschko: Then he blurts out, "Then that must suck for the younger kids today because they're so used to watching things 'in order' so they'll watch Episodes I-III and they'll already KNOW that Darth Vader is Luke's dad because the people who made the movies assume that everyone had already seen Episodes IV-VI. So that would totally ruin the reveal in Episode V!"

I think that the fact that everyone on the planet already knows that Vader is Luke's father, before seeing any of the films would be enough to totally ruin the reveal in Episode VI.
 
2011-10-15 03:16:12 PM
casual disregard: dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.

I think what I read is that the original script written by Lucas read "I love you, too" but nobody on the set liked the line so they asked Harrison Ford to try out different variations. In the end, Lucas still wanted the original, but the director decided to go with the time they did "I know" instead. He didn't just do it out of the blue, is my understanding, but did several takes in cooperation with everyone else and we wound up with that. I don't have a source, though.


If that's true, it's nowhere near as cool as the version I have heard. I just like the idea of Ford getting uppity and saying what he thought his character would, on a live set.

/regardless of genre - one of the best scenes in movie history. The music. The ensuing drama. Good stuff, man.
 
2011-10-15 03:27:19 PM
FloydA: Wretschko:

I finally tore myself away from reading the latest "A modified toilet roller? Wow. Just wow." thread and told him:

"Blame George Lucas."

His response: "Well, George Lucas sucks then."

I sighed and responded with: "I've raised you well, son."

If only you could have rasped that through a breathing device of some sort, in the voice of James Earl Jones.


"I've raised you well, simba"
 
2011-10-15 03:30:33 PM
Mugato: ActionJoe: I'm pretty sure the planet was called Naboo. This father has already ruined Star Wars forever.

/Nope, never mind, George Lucas did that

Oh for Chrissakes, get over it. Besides some questionable dialog and acting, the Prequels were hardly as bad as you drama queens make it out to be.

I hope all your kids come to you and declare that they love the prequels more than the original trilogy. It'd be like a Baptist's kid telling them that they're gay.


Yeah, this. While the prequels are generally inferior to the originals, I think about 60% of the hate geared toward them involves a heavy dose of the nostalgia filter.

That said, once you get past a certain age, all you can think about when watching a CGI'd scene in the prequels is how fake it looks.

/Kinda hopes that they'll redo the crappy CGI with more realistic-looking stuff someday
//The differences between the CGI in Ep I and Ep III are astounding
 
2011-10-15 03:31:46 PM
Mugato: Wretschko: Then he blurts out, "Then that must suck for the younger kids today because they're so used to watching things 'in order' so they'll watch Episodes I-III and they'll already KNOW that Darth Vader is Luke's dad because the people who made the movies assume that everyone had already seen Episodes IV-VI. So that would totally ruin the reveal in Episode V!"

I think that the fact that everyone on the planet already knows that Vader is Luke's father, before seeing any of the films would be enough to totally ruin the reveal in Episode VI.


Mysteriously, my current girlfriend does not know. She watched a new hope and enjoyed it, and asked if obi wan was coming back or what. Also she loves r2 and threepio. I pushed too far because she got bored right after the both scene in empire... I have to wait to discover what she thinks of the revelation. I am interested in watching the OT for the first time through her adult eyes.
 
2011-10-15 03:42:23 PM
Fireproof: That said, once you get past a certain age, all you can think about when watching a CGI'd scene in the prequels is how fake it looks.

Some of it does, sure, especially the creatures. Then again, the matte boxes around the space ships, the stop motion tauntaun and the blue screen Rancor int he originals weren't exactly seamless. They just looked fake in a different way than CGI. And you might be surprised if you saw what was CGI and what were practical FX in the prequels.
 
2011-10-15 04:04:53 PM
Standing in line for over two hours waiting to get into "Return of the Jedi" when I was a kid is what the snowflakes will miss out on...not the film experiences themselves.

The movies should be watched in their release order, and that's not too hard to do. But it's gotta be pretty hard to avoid information on Darth Vader for kids today.

/prefers Yoda the Muppet.
 
2011-10-15 04:55:13 PM
Fano: FloydA: Wretschko:

I finally tore myself away from reading the latest "A modified toilet roller? Wow. Just wow." thread and told him:

"Blame George Lucas."

His response: "Well, George Lucas sucks then."

I sighed and responded with: "I've raised you well, son."

If only you could have rasped that through a breathing device of some sort, in the voice of James Earl Jones.

"I've raised you well, simba"


i105.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-15 05:22:30 PM
Mugato: I think that the fact that everyone on the planet already knows that Vader is Luke's father, before seeing any of the films would be enough to totally ruin the reveal in Episode VI.

Dude! Would a spoiler alert have hurt. Thanks man.
 
2011-10-15 05:37:02 PM
casual disregard: dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.

I think what I read is that the original script written by Lucas read "I love you, too" but nobody on the set liked the line so they asked Harrison Ford to try out different variations. In the end, Lucas still wanted the original, but the director decided to go with the time they did "I know" instead. He didn't just do it out of the blue, is my understanding, but did several takes in cooperation with everyone else and we wound up with that. I don't have a source, though.


They (Carrie Fisher, Irvin Kirshner (the director), et al) talk about it at length in the commentary track of ESB, at least on the DVD from... was it 2004? I don't know, I've got several versions... the remastered DVD, which added celebrations on Coruscant, Naboo, etc.
 
2011-10-15 06:16:24 PM
Best explanations for the prequels I've ever seen.
 
2011-10-15 07:29:00 PM
Kome: Best explanations for the prequels I've ever seen.

PUT THE RAT POISON IN THE TEA
 
2011-10-15 08:23:45 PM
dickfreckle: I have the DVD set of the original three films. Also have the day off. Am tempted to grab a 12pk. of beer and waste the entire day revisiting my childhood.

Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl. But the original series is just farking phenomenal, and even better once you consider the tech they were working with 30+ years ago. This was real artistry and imagination, not some hacks relying on computers to mask a lack of talent.

/is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.




You sound like a farking douchebag.
 
2011-10-15 09:53:24 PM
dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.

Read this page for the description of the actual day and moment the line "I know" was conceived. (new window)
 
2011-10-15 10:48:07 PM
Kome: Best explanations for the prequels I've ever seen.

FIFTY-NIINNINE MINUTES!
 
2011-10-15 10:51:34 PM
Fano: FloydA: Wretschko:

I finally tore myself away from reading the latest "A modified toilet roller? Wow. Just wow." thread and told him:

"Blame George Lucas."

His response: "Well, George Lucas sucks then."

I sighed and responded with: "I've raised you well, son."

If only you could have rasped that through a breathing device of some sort, in the voice of James Earl Jones.

"I've raised you well, simba"



Bro..........that was absolutely awesome.

Just took the kids to lion king 3 D........ you made that rock
 
2011-10-15 10:56:17 PM
Clone Wars is awesome. It's what Star Wars should be. Wacky creatures and planets, lots of battles and death, and it's pretty clever and funny. I love it.
 
2011-10-15 10:59:46 PM
Confabulat: Clone Wars is awesome. It's what Star Wars should be. Wacky creatures and planets, lots of battles and death, and it's pretty clever and funny. I love it.

The combo Swift and Baum homages yesterday was awesome. So random, but very much the Threepio / Artoo combo Droids series from the 80s. Also, moral of the story: fark with Artoo, Artoo will tear down the very fabric of your sociopolitical society.
 
2011-10-15 11:25:35 PM
Aboleth: Confabulat: Clone Wars is awesome. It's what Star Wars should be. Wacky creatures and planets, lots of battles and death, and it's pretty clever and funny. I love it.

The combo Swift and Baum homages yesterday was awesome. So random, but very much the Threepio / Artoo combo Droids series from the 80s. Also, moral of the story: fark with Artoo, Artoo will tear down the very fabric of your sociopolitical society.


I loved the line the week before, when the clones meet the adorable cute little inhabitants of their latest visit: "Oh, it's one of those planets."
 
2011-10-16 12:09:49 AM
axlf: dickfreckle: I have the DVD set of the original three films. Also have the day off. Am tempted to grab a 12pk. of beer and waste the entire day revisiting my childhood.

Believe it or not, I do not live in my mom's basement. I've even had sex with a real live girl. But the original series is just farking phenomenal, and even better once you consider the tech they were working with 30+ years ago. This was real artistry and imagination, not some hacks relying on computers to mask a lack of talent.

/is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.



You sound like a farking douchebag.


Eh, OK. Am glad to have your input.
 
2011-10-16 12:29:35 AM
Aboleth: dickfreckle: /is it true that Harrisson Ford improvised the famous "I know" scene? I read somewhere that he just felt it was something Han Solo would have said, so he did it.

Read this page for the description of the actual day and moment the line "I know" was conceived. (new window)


I enjoyed reading this! Presuming it's true. Thanks for the linkage.
 
2011-10-16 01:00:04 AM
OK, so I made good on my threat to waste my Saturday watching the first three films. A Godfather sort of day. Anyway, I stand by the statement that these are incredible movies, and lots of it is owed to John Williams' score.

In Return of the Jedi, who doesn't love that final saber battle between Vader and Skywalker, after Vader threatens his sister? It's...it's beautiful. I can't explain why that scene moves me so much. Probably the music.

/CSB - saw it in the theater with my mother in 1983. Was a little kid
 
2011-10-16 03:30:54 AM
Confabulat: Aboleth: Confabulat: Clone Wars is awesome. It's what Star Wars should be. Wacky creatures and planets, lots of battles and death, and it's pretty clever and funny. I love it.

The combo Swift and Baum homages yesterday was awesome. So random, but very much the Threepio / Artoo combo Droids series from the 80s. Also, moral of the story: fark with Artoo, Artoo will tear down the very fabric of your sociopolitical society.

I loved the line the week before, when the clones meet the adorable cute little inhabitants of their latest visit: "Oh, it's one of those planets."


I like the Clone wars, except having seen ep. 3 all i can think of is, Anakin is goibng to betray and kill you all.

/Younglings!!!!!
 
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