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2011-10-15 11:45:32 AM
List fails without:

s3.broadway.com
 
2011-10-15 11:59:48 AM
Blame Canada
 
2011-10-15 12:03:51 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2011-10-15 12:05:57 PM

TheManofPA: Blame Canada


INDEED!

/Didn't see Robin Williams blasting any of these at the Oscars, which is the de facto deciding factor.
 
2011-10-15 12:06:44 PM
MODERN musicals?

The Lion King
Robin Hood Men in Tights
Mulan
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Pocahontas
Aladdin
Some muppet film
some other muppet film
some disney direct-to-video sequel from above list
 
2011-10-15 12:21:14 PM
Bob Roberts
 
2011-10-15 12:24:37 PM

Candygram4Mongo: MODERN musicals?

The Lion King
Robin Hood Men in Tights
Mulan
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Pocahontas
Aladdin
Some muppet film
some other muppet film
some disney direct-to-video sequel from above list


huh? Think you read the wrong list.

I'm just happy Moulin Rouge was on there. Though I was a little surprised at the inclusion of some of the others... but meh.
 
2011-10-15 12:26:03 PM

Candygram4Mongo: MODERN musicals?

The Lion King Agreed
Robin Hood Men in Tights I wish I could agree, but I don't think it counts as a musical.
Mulan While a decent movie, again, barely a musical.
The Little Mermaid My daughters DEFINITELY agree.
Beauty and the Beast Robbed of its Oscar for Best Film that year, ya ask me.
Pocahontas Crap on whole wheat toast.
Aladdin Agreed.
Some muppet film Any except Muppets from Space, but like Robin Hood, barely BARELY qualifies as a musical.
some other muppet film
some disney direct-to-video sequel from above list Which are surprisingly decent anymore.


There's also Once, The Producers...scores (Heh.) more films that authormonkey didn't add.
 
2011-10-15 12:31:24 PM

PizzaJedi81: Candygram4Mongo: MODERN musicals?

The Lion King Agreed
Robin Hood Men in Tights I wish I could agree, but I don't think it counts as a musical.
Mulan While a decent movie, again, barely a musical.
The Little Mermaid My daughters DEFINITELY agree.
Beauty and the Beast Robbed of its Oscar for Best Film that year, ya ask me.
Pocahontas Crap on whole wheat toast.
Aladdin Agreed.
Some muppet film Any except Muppets from Space, but like Robin Hood, barely BARELY qualifies as a musical.
some other muppet film
some disney direct-to-video sequel from above list Which are surprisingly decent anymore.

There's also Once, The Producers...scores (Heh.) more films that authormonkey didn't add.


l can recall three full length songs from Robin Hood, so what the heck.

Not that I was trying that hard.

But "We're MEN, we're men in TIIIIIIGHTS..." is stuck in my head now...
 
2011-10-15 12:32:45 PM

Candygram4Mongo: But "We're MEN, we're men in TIIIIIIGHTS..." is stuck in my head now...


You say that like it's a bad thing. :-)
 
2011-10-15 12:36:04 PM
there are no good musicals. Ever. There's some good movies with song sequences, but they are not Musicals.
 
2011-10-15 12:39:06 PM
So what constitutes "modern"? They went all the way back to 1979, couldn't they go a few more years and consider Willy Wonka? Or do midgets singing most of the songs count it as only half a musical?
 
2011-10-15 12:39:38 PM

FeedTheCollapse: there are no good musicals. Ever. There's some good movies with song sequences, but they are not Musicals.


'Splain, please.
 
2011-10-15 12:40:35 PM

scottydoesntknow: Or do midgets singing most of the songs count it as only half a musical?


images.encyclopediadramatica.ch
 
2011-10-15 12:47:35 PM
The last good movie musical was "The Music Man".

Everything since then is tripe.
 
2011-10-15 12:49:16 PM
The person who wrote that article has absolutely no idea what is or is not a musical.

None whatsoever.


PizzaJedi81: FeedTheCollapse: there are no good musicals. Ever. There's some good movies with song sequences, but they are not Musicals.

'Splain, please.


Don't bother.

Musical theater is one of those subjects people feel smug in bragging about their own ignorance.
 
2011-10-15 12:56:58 PM

FrancoFile: The last good movie musical was "The Music Man".

Everything since then is tripe.


See what I mean?
 
2011-10-15 01:08:34 PM
I don't know from crappy obscure music sing-a-long movies, but I find myself oddly intrigued by the picture for #1 and wanting to know more.
 
2011-10-15 01:10:50 PM

QT_3.14159: Candygram4Mongo
I'm just happy Moulin Rouge was on there. Though I was a little surprised at the inclusion of some of the others... but meh.


Are you trolling? Moulin Rouge is awful. AWFUL. It's a nightmare of horribly rendered remakes of other people's songs.

Where the heck is Chicago, The Meaning of Life, and The Pirates of Penzance (Kevin Kline, et al)?
 
2011-10-15 01:13:37 PM

Author needs to be turned into a prince ...


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Prince of the Land of Stench!


/rocks friends
 
2011-10-15 01:19:52 PM

DigitalCoffee: Author needs to be turned into a prince ...


[i725.photobucket.com image 186x139]
Prince of the Land of Stench!


/rocks friends


Labyrinth is awesome. But I'm not sure that it qualifies as a musical. There's enough singing in it to justify David Bowie's presence, but only the Fire Gang and Jareth sing, so that's pretty limited.
 
2011-10-15 01:32:42 PM

logic523: Labyrinth is awesome. But I'm not sure that it qualifies as a musical. There's enough singing in it to justify David Bowie's presence, but only the Fire Gang and Jareth sing, so that's pretty limited.


Then I suggest that you take ....


i435.photobucket.com
A jump to the left!


/i see you shiver with antici....
 
2011-10-15 01:38:56 PM

logic523: QT_3.14159: Candygram4Mongo
I'm just happy Moulin Rouge was on there. Though I was a little surprised at the inclusion of some of the others... but meh.

Are you trolling? Moulin Rouge is awful. AWFUL. It's a nightmare of horribly rendered remakes of other people's songs.


I don't know, I thought Jim Broadbent singing "Like a Virgin" was great.
 
2011-10-15 01:46:50 PM

Cyno01: [images.wikia.com image 399x604]


I don't always this. But when I do, I this this.
 
2011-10-15 01:46:58 PM
Wot, no Blues Brothers? (But I'm happy to see Commitments on there.)
 
2011-10-15 01:51:25 PM
Apparently there's no way to get past the first page of the slideshow when browsing from an iPhone.

/Anyone else have this problem?
//Someone post the full list, plzkthnx.
 
2011-10-15 01:53:59 PM
The "amount" of music is irrelevant. As is "where it comes from".

A Musical is a musical play in which the songs further the plot.

It's simple.

South Park, Little Shop of Horrors, The Wall: Musicals

The Blues Brothers, Purple Rain, The Commitments: Not musicals

The author is a retard.
 
2011-10-15 02:17:16 PM
to reiterate Cyno01's statement..

i219.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-15 02:42:21 PM
I would have added Hedwig and Lagaan! (I know it's Bollywood) but since the author added the South African Carmen, I feel like I can bend the rules as well. I

I'd drop The Commitments (covers, and a movie I felt like I'd see too many times before while watching it) and Moulin Rouge (mostly because the phrenetic methed-up editing in that movie gave me a got damn headache).

All That Jazz has kind of grown on me. I tried to watch it numerous time and was never able to get through it. Watched it recently and loved it, felt like I "got it" for the first time, whatever that means.

If we could include television I would add The Singing Detective (The BBC series) I loved that. Pennies From Heaven was another excellent (dreamy musical sequences as a means of escaping reality) movie that I like a lot more than most people or critics do. It's probably the Bernadette Peters thing. I'm kind of in the Bernadette can do no wrong camp.
 
2011-10-15 03:25:36 PM
Purple Rain? Not a musical.
The Commitments? Not a musical.

A film with songs is not a musical. A musical is where the song is part of the story. That's why South Park is a musical (and I laughed my ass of at the opening song which is so obviously a parody/homage of Beauty and the Beast). I'll give the tag to Cabaret because the songs reflect the drama.

Incidentally, Moulin Rouge is like fingernails down a chalkboard. I got through just over 20 minutes before having to turn it off.
 
2011-10-15 03:37:54 PM

T.M.S.: The "amount" of music is irrelevant. As is "where it comes from".

A Musical is a musical play in which the songs further the plot.

It's simple.

South Park, Little Shop of Horrors, The Wall: Musicals

The Blues Brothers, Purple Rain, The Commitments: Not musicals

The author is a retard.


Being a play has nothing to do with it. And The Wall is a rock opera, not a musical.
 
2011-10-15 03:51:18 PM
I'm saddened by the lack of love for Grease here, or for ONJ.

i1219.photobucket.com

/....pation!
 
2011-10-15 04:17:17 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: T.M.S.: The "amount" of music is irrelevant. As is "where it comes from".

A Musical is a musical play in which the songs further the plot.

It's simple.

South Park, Little Shop of Horrors, The Wall: Musicals

The Blues Brothers, Purple Rain, The Commitments: Not musicals

The author is a retard.

Being a play has nothing to do with it. And The Wall is a rock opera, not a musical.


Being a play has everything to do with it.

And "Rock Opera" is just a fancy phrase that means the same thing as musical. Depends on how pedantic you want to get.

Technically The Wall is a Songspeil. As was all the times the Who played TOMMY on stage.

The show known as The Who's Tommy is a musical.
 
2011-10-15 04:43:37 PM

T.M.S.: Musical theater is one of those subjects people feel smug in bragging about their own ignorance.


Doing so makes a pretty good case you're not teh ghey.
 
2011-10-15 04:59:03 PM
Is there a reason that "Phantom of the Opera" did not make the list?
 
2011-10-15 05:05:22 PM
.......pation
 
2011-10-15 05:11:39 PM

DigitalCoffee: logic523: Labyrinth is awesome. But I'm not sure that it qualifies as a musical. There's enough singing in it to justify David Bowie's presence, but only the Fire Gang and Jareth sing, so that's pretty limited.

Then I suggest that you take ....


[i435.photobucket.com image 447x295]
A jump to the left!


/i see you shiver with antici....


Touche! I can't believe that I overlooked RHPS. I've seen it in the theater well over 200 times, I've played a Tranny, and I'm visible in the 20 year anniversary special that they put on television (i'm just in the audience at the Los Angeles venue). Shame on me for not including Richard O'Brien's masterpiece! Long live Sins of the Flesh!
 
2011-10-15 05:34:19 PM

logic523: QT_3.14159: Candygram4Mongo
I'm just happy Moulin Rouge was on there. Though I was a little surprised at the inclusion of some of the others... but meh.

Are you trolling? Moulin Rouge is awful. AWFUL. It's a nightmare of horribly rendered remakes of other people's songs.

Where the heck is Chicago, The Meaning of Life, and The Pirates of Penzance (Kevin Kline, et al)?


I wasn't trolling at all. I consider Moulin Rouge to be one of my favorite movies ever. Before I saw it, I made fun of it for the same reasons you listed. And the first 20 minutes or so is purposefully uncomfortable and cacophonic. But when Christian opens his mouth and begins to sing, "My gift is your song" the whole movie stops and I, personally, fell in love.

Most of the old movie musicals also reused other people's songs. This was done to communicate instantly feelings and tone to the audience.

You can say they're horribly rendered, but I would have to disagree with you. They communicated exactly what they needed to. Like a Virgin is hysterical, Roxanne is pure genious, Smells Like Teen Spirit is great for communicating the spirit of the crowd. Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend is exceedingly well done by Nicole and sets the character up perfectly. The original song is awesome and performed so intensely during the finale that it takes it to a whole new level.

In one sense, Moulin Rouge isn't a "great musical" in the sense that Chicago is, but I didn't like Chicago and Moulin Rouge speaks to me. It simultaneously felt incredibly modern while capturing the true bohemian ideals of truth, beauty and love.

/above all things I believe in love.
 
2011-10-15 05:39:21 PM
tommy, quadrafinia (sp) the Wall, Jesus christ superstar? these are rock opera's, as in a Opera done with rock music

not musicals. they are opera.

RHPS is a musical because the songs are port of the plot

the Blues brothers is not a musical, it is a movie about a band with music numbers. Blues brothers 2000, is closer to a musical than the original movie, and damn you all for making me bring up that abortion of a movie.
 
2011-10-15 05:39:41 PM
No Rent!?! What the F! It was made into a movie TWICE! The first one didn't sit well with me because they cut a lot of songs out which kind of ruined the point of seeing Rent. The second one however was filmed during a live performance, so it was the whole musical but it didn't have the original Mark and Roger which was kind of a bummer.

/saw Rent a couple years ago when it was touring with Anthony Rapp and Adam Pascal
//A night I will never forget
 
2011-10-15 05:58:14 PM

cherryl taggart: Is there a reason that "Phantom of the Opera" did not make the list?



Because people were too busy stabbing their ears out to actually sing along?


PizzaJedi81: Candygram4Mongo: MODERN musicals?

The Lion King- Agreed
Robin Hood Men in Tights - I wish I could agree, but I don't think it counts as a musical.
Mulan - While a decent movie, again, barely a musical.
The Little Mermaid - My daughters DEFINITELY agree.
Beauty and the Beast Robbed of its Oscar for Best Film that year, ya ask me. This this this
Pocahontas - Crap on whole wheat toast.
Aladdin - Agreed.
Some muppet film - Any except Muppets from Space, but like Robin Hood, barely BARELY qualifies as a musical.
some other muppet film***
some disney direct-to-video sequel from above list - Which are surprisingly decent anymore.

There's also Once, The Producers...scores (Heh.) more films that authormonkey didn't add.


I knew I had you favorited for a reason. As far as the other Muppet movie, I offer you A Muppet Christmas Carol. Definitely my favorite version of the familiar tale.
 
2011-10-15 06:02:54 PM
No "Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas?"

Seriously though, would it have killed them to specify MOVIE musicals? "Best Modern Musicals" is a whole other list.
 
2011-10-15 07:07:56 PM
"I was in the theater department 152 years ago in the first attempt (or was it second attempt) at college; therefore, I am an expert..."
 
2011-10-15 07:26:17 PM

T.M.S.: The Blues Brothers, Purple Rain, The Commitments: Not musicals


Agreed. And, I will add, I believe Prince is a great musician and Purple Rain had a great soundtrack, but the movie was horrible. The only decent actor in the film was Morris Day.
 
2011-10-15 07:28:07 PM

cherryl taggart: Is there a reason that "Phantom of the Opera" did not make the list?


Andrew Lloyd Webber.

See also: "Evita," "Jesus Christ Superstar," etc.
 
2011-10-15 07:59:09 PM
Ya know? With all the airplane/Scary movie parodies, you'd think someone would have the balls to do a Scarface musical. Ben Stiller as an inept Jewish drug lord seeing love at 1st sight as Rose O'Donnell tries to take the elevator downstairs but she can't fit. Of course Omar and Manny would break into Mixalots "I like big buts" whilst Rosie would take the stairs and fall down in a powder puff of coke she was stashing in her brazer. I have a lot more material but I'm not just gonna give it away.
 
2011-10-15 08:09:47 PM

Cerebral Knievel: tommy, quadrafinia (sp) the Wall, Jesus christ superstar? these are rock opera's, as in a Opera done with rock music

not musicals. they are opera.



"Rock Opera" is just a marketing term. They are no more or less operas than most any other musicals.

You would not call Floyd Collins an "Appalachian Folk Opera". Of course you could and be technically correct but it sounds sort of funny and beside the point.

Oh, and Quadrophenia is another Songspeil. Neither an Opera nor Musical.
 
2011-10-15 09:06:57 PM

T.M.S.: Cerebral Knievel: tommy, quadrafinia (sp) the Wall, Jesus christ superstar? these are rock opera's, as in a Opera done with rock music

not musicals. they are opera.



"Rock Opera" is just a marketing term. They are no more or less operas than most any other musicals.

You would not call Floyd Collins an "Appalachian Folk Opera". Of course you could and be technically correct but it sounds sort of funny and beside the point.

Oh, and Quadrophenia is another Songspeil. Neither an Opera nor Musical.


I shall choose to agree and disagree with you good sir at the same time. A musical has dialouge, while an opera is carried through with music and singing for the most part... Faust has dialouge for example, but it is done in a sing song manner. I agree with you that the term "rock opera" is marketing, but to call such pieces as straight opera would turn off a lot of contemporary fans, and piss off a lot of traditional fans, so I accept the term "rock opera" for such pieces as I do throughly enjoy them.

to further the point, with Tommy, while I enjoy the original recording, I prefer the soundtrack to the motion picture for I find it to more.. well.. operatic, when I want to listen to such a thing.

but you use the term "songspiel" and that in and of itself is defined as a light opera, so do you not contradict yourself by making that statement? in fact... a songspiel is a "comedic light opera with dialogue, so tommy or quadrafinia doesn't even fit in that definition at all, that's more of a definition for well.. the Pirates of Penzance.
 
2011-10-15 10:08:36 PM
And one more:

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2011-10-15 10:12:28 PM

QT_3.14159: I consider Moulin Rouge to be one of my favorite movies ever.


The wonderfulness of the Tango Roxanne sequence was my favorite part of the film, when the songs all build and build until the overlap (I forget the technical term.)at the end, the moodiness of Christian's part...

It's a good movie, and a nice take on La Boheme.

Speaking of...no RENT? RENT, RENT, RENT, RENT, RENT!
 
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