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2011-10-15 10:55:11 AM  
Attorney Dan Stanley has filed on behalf of motorists Chris Cawood and Jonathan Kelly Proffitt a $6 million proposed class-action lawsuit

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2011-10-15 11:12:00 AM  
Unless I'm missing something here, this is not a lawsuit directed at a third party collections agency, so how can the FDCPA come into play here?
 
2011-10-15 12:17:06 PM  
Even if it's not successful, it's worth doing. In fact, it's worth doing to every company and municipality that has anything to do with these infernal things. Speed cameras are chickenshiat fundraising machines. They have nothing at all to do with public safety, they have everything to do with some municipality's budget. I hope they lose this lawsuit and their budget gets destroyed so maybe they'll do the right thing for a change and not try to make bank on the backs of the people they purportedly represent.
 
2011-10-15 12:17:29 PM  
Sometimes...just every so once in a while...not ALL lawyers deserve to be rounded up and shot. This may be one of those rare instances.

/remembers when every other podunk town in the south hadwas a speed trap
 
2011-10-15 12:20:18 PM  
Anyone who disagrees with this is an ATS plant.
 
2011-10-15 12:20:20 PM  
I'd rather have higher taxes than red light/speed cameras. Figure out your goddamned budget and tax people accordingly.

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.
 
2011-10-15 12:21:34 PM  

nekom: Unless I'm missing something here, this is not a lawsuit directed at a third party collections agency, so how can the FDCPA come into play here?


The camera company collects on behalf of the city, since the city has police powers and the camera company doesn't.
 
2011-10-15 12:24:11 PM  

StoneColdAtheist: /remembers when every other podunk town in the south hadwas a speed trap


Even then I didn't mind too much because it was an actual person pulling you over who saw you breaking the law.

Don't get me wrong I hate speed traps in general (and ESPECIALLY podunk towns that will pull you over for 38 in a 35 going downhill), but at least you had the option to explain yourself and maybe get out of it. Couldn't tell you how many times I got my uncle out of speeding ticket when we were going hunting just by being under 10 and looking innocent (and most of the cops also being avid hunters and wanting us to enjoy opening weekend).
 
2011-10-15 12:24:54 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Even if it's not successful, it's worth doing. In fact, it's worth doing to every company and municipality that has anything to do with these infernal things. Speed cameras are chickenshiat fundraising machines. They have nothing at all to do with public safety, they have everything to do with some municipality's budget. I hope they lose this lawsuit and their budget gets destroyed so maybe they'll do the right thing for a change and not try to make bank on the backs of the people they purportedly represent.


I wonder how they'd try to make up the budget shortfall from that...
 
2011-10-15 12:29:59 PM  
6 Cities That Were Caught Shortening Yellow Light Times For Profit (new window)

I wonder how many haven't been caught?
 
2011-10-15 12:30:06 PM  
FTFA: on top of the $50 fine imposed for motorists allegedly captured on the city's two speed enforcement cameras

Such a bargain. Get one here in Orlando (Lake County) and you are coughing up $258 if you decide to contest it. Prior to contesting it I think it was something like $175. Leeches.
 
2011-10-15 12:30:34 PM  

dustlesswalnut: .

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.


True. I got dinged by a camera because I turned right on red, even though there was no sign saying not too. I guess they are just banking on some poor sap just paying it, no questions asked.
 
2011-10-15 12:30:52 PM  

Sim Tree: The camera company collects on behalf of the city, since the city has police powers and the camera company doesn't.


But don't they also operate the cameras which initiates the charge? Seems to me they'd be more along the lines of an original creditor than a third party collection agency. Could be a legal gray area though.
 
2011-10-15 12:36:14 PM  
Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.
 
2011-10-15 12:37:20 PM  
To all Speed Camera manufacturers and the people in government who buy into this scam: Go die SCREAMING in a fire.

No, really, just die. You are worthless and are wasting space and oxygen required by the rest of us. The screaming in a fire part is optional.
 
2011-10-15 12:40:20 PM  
I'm living in a town that has declared war on proposed red light and speed cameras, so I'm getting a kick, etc. Not only am I getting a kick, I'm having a hard time find one municipality where these things haven't caused rancor and public fury. I sincerely hope ATS and their competitors become the buggy whip salesmen of our time.
 
2011-10-15 12:47:14 PM  

Trance750: dustlesswalnut: .

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.

True. I got dinged by a camera because I turned right on red, even though there was no sign saying not too. I guess they are just banking on some poor sap just paying it, no questions asked.


Or the traffic laws where you were driving made it illegal to turn right on a red light. Your ignorance of such a law would not be a valid defense.
 
2011-10-15 12:47:17 PM  
Dont speed and you wont have any problems.
 
2011-10-15 12:48:05 PM  

dustlesswalnut: I'd rather have higher taxes than red light/speed cameras. Figure out your goddamned budget and tax people accordingly.


This. It's just people who refuse to raise taxes trying to find other ways to make up the money.
 
2011-10-15 12:48:44 PM  
Ahh, glad to see the ATS shills made it to the thread.
 
2011-10-15 12:48:44 PM  
How's that traffic safety cash cow workin' out for you, you grasping, covetous old sinners?
 
2011-10-15 12:54:14 PM  
Did anyone else read that "Klingon attorney?"

\\in this part of Calif running a red light costs $400
\that's for camera or human citation
 
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2011-10-15 12:57:34 PM  
In Tennessee any fine over $50 requires a fair trial. That's why the ticket is only $50 (plus costs).
 
2011-10-15 12:58:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: StoneColdAtheist: /remembers when every other podunk town in the south hadwas a speed trap

Even then I didn't mind too much because it was an actual person pulling you over who saw you breaking the law.


Yes, that much is true. It was in fact good ol' local boy Deputy Doright who pulled you over, not some impersonal camera, though that was scant comfort to all the G.I.'s with out-of-state plates those bastards targeted.

/still bitter after 30 years
 
2011-10-15 01:04:52 PM  

portscanner: Dont speed and you wont have any problems.


What makes you come to that conclusion?
 
2011-10-15 01:06:17 PM  
ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com

blog.extremesportscafe.comstatic.guim.co.ukwww.bournemouthecho.co.uk

/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!
 
2011-10-15 01:12:58 PM  
Hope that Bluff City gets their farking teeth kicked in on this. The town boundaries include a very small sliver of land that a major state route runs across. The section is a few miles away from the Bristol Motor Speedway and carries traffic between Johnson City and Bristol TN. They saw an opportunity to rape folks without even giving them kiss. Bluff City at #OccupyingBankruptcy I hope. The city should not even have city status. I hope they are dissolved now and what is left of their assets burt and the ashes thrown into the river, never to remembered again.
 
2011-10-15 01:16:36 PM  
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/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!


Someone did that to a camera in a smallish town near where I live. It had the side effect of keeping a patrol-tard occupied with constantly keeping an eye on the new one
 
2011-10-15 01:17:12 PM  

Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.


So you violated the guys rights by not giving him his chance in court. Your company made his guilty plea without his consent. Fark you and your company.
 
2011-10-15 01:33:43 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Trance750: dustlesswalnut: .

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.

True. I got dinged by a camera because I turned right on red, even though there was no sign saying not too. I guess they are just banking on some poor sap just paying it, no questions asked.

Or the traffic laws where you were driving made it illegal to turn right on a red light. Your ignorance of such a law would not be a valid defense.


Cruiser12, is that you in disguise?
 
2011-10-15 01:37:26 PM  

simonbarfsinister: .Gobobo: [ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com image 500x374]

[blog.extremesportscafe.com image 595x385][static.guim.co.uk image 460x276][www.bournemouthecho.co.uk image 300x293]

/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!

Someone did that to a camera in a smallish town near where I live. It had the side effect of keeping a patrol-tard occupied with constantly keeping an eye on the new one


I think that anonymous someone would be interested in the stuff you use to fill cracks in walls. It expands after it leaves the nozzle and can, um, be potentially damaging in small spaces without creating a fire/flames.
 
2011-10-15 01:44:22 PM  

MyRandomName: Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.

So you violated the guys rights by not giving him his chance in court. Your company made his guilty plea without his consent. Fark you and your company.


O.K. here goes.
The camera should be illegal. The tickets generated by the camera should not be enforceable. However the posters employer ( further known as 'Car rental co.') was well within their rights to pass this along. 1 ticket may be contestable if the driver has cause to contest. But 9??? Including one with the roman salute? This is obviously "F*ck you let the car rental co. pay for it!!!" I'm innocent because its not MY car. Try to find me pigs!

If this is valid you should let me rent some of your tools. You know cause, F*ck it, its not mine is a valid concept with you.

I'll give you $20 for 20 minutes rental on your car. Lets make the pick-up and drop-off point a few blocks from your local bank. I'm certain you have no problem with this. Since you likely don't have the ability to process a credit card on the spot I'm good with just paying in cash.

As for the poster, why fark him? Because he has a job? I don't care if he works for I.G.Farben making ZyclonB. He still doesn't get to choose who it gets used on.

I bet you are the guy who floors a rental car in reverse and jumps into drive repeatedly to see how many times it takes to break the transmission.

/I like to chew my troll bait thoroughly
 
2011-10-15 01:48:55 PM  

Gobobo: simonbarfsinister: .Gobobo: [ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com image 500x374]

[blog.extremesportscafe.com image 595x385][static.guim.co.uk image 460x276][www.bournemouthecho.co.uk image 300x293]

/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!

Someone did that to a camera in a smallish town near where I live. It had the side effect of keeping a patrol-tard occupied with constantly keeping an eye on the new one

I think that anonymous someone would be interested in the stuff you use to fill cracks in walls. It expands after it leaves the nozzle and can, um, be potentially damaging in small spaces without creating a fire/flames.


That is indeed some Great Stuff!!!
 
2011-10-15 01:51:36 PM  

simonbarfsinister: MyRandomName: Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.

So you violated the guys rights by not giving him his chance in court. Your company made his guilty plea without his consent. Fark you and your company.

O.K. here goes.
The camera should be illegal. The tickets generated by the camera should not be enforceable. However the posters employer ( further known as 'Car rental co.') was well within their rights to pass this along. 1 ticket may be contestable if the driver has cause to contest. But 9??? Including one with the roman salute? This is obviously "F*ck you let the car rental co. pay for it!!!" I'm innocent because its not MY car. Try to find me pigs!

If this is valid you should let me rent some of your tools. You know cause, F*ck it, its not mine is a valid concept with you.

I'll give you $20 for 20 minutes rental on your car. Lets make the pick-up and drop-off point a few blocks from your local bank. I'm certain you have no problem with this. Since you likely don't have the ability to process a credit card on the spot I'm good with just paying in cash.

As for the poster, why fark him? Because he has a job? I don't care if he works for I.G.Farben making ZyclonB. He still doesn't get to choose who it gets used on.

I bet you are the guy who floors a rental car in reverse and jumps into drive repeatedly to see how many times it takes to break the transmission.

/I like to chew my troll bait thoroughly


You are actually are defending the asshole company? Are you farking retarded?

Unlike parking tickets civil infractions are placed on the driver not on the vehicle. Speeding tickets are civil infractions, ie they are put on the person driving, not on the car. Almost every one of these states have laws that send the civil infraction TO THE DRIVER. So if someone else is driving your car and blows through the light, you are not liable for the ticket.

What this company did is declare the guy guilty and then administer the civil infraction fine on the person. What they should have done legally is either forward the drivers information (Not required, but since it was the company's car, they are more than free to do so) to the courts for them to start civil proceedings on the actual driver. The second option would be to contest the charges in court as they can prove the driver was not an employee at the company.

SO yes, call me a "troll" for actually understanding the legal proceedings surrounding these cameras. You can keep going on being ignorant. At least we know you support the removal of civil proceedings you authoritarian douche.
 
2011-10-15 02:13:41 PM  
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2011-10-15 02:15:57 PM  

simonbarfsinister: Gobobo: simonbarfsinister: .Gobobo: [ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com image 500x374]

[blog.extremesportscafe.com image 595x385][static.guim.co.uk image 460x276][www.bournemouthecho.co.uk image 300x293]

/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!

Someone did that to a camera in a smallish town near where I live. It had the side effect of keeping a patrol-tard occupied with constantly keeping an eye on the new one

I think that anonymous someone would be interested in the stuff you use to fill cracks in walls. It expands after it leaves the nozzle and can, um, be potentially damaging in small spaces without creating a fire/flames.

That is indeed some Great Stuff!!!


An interesting take on gatso cameras (new window)
 
2011-10-15 02:25:56 PM  
If municipalities want to use speed and red-light cameras, they should follow and obey the law.

As well, they should not 'game the system' in an attempt to increase revenues since the cameras are installed for the safety of the public, not for the benefit of local coffers (or so they claim in contretemps of their actual behavior).
 
2011-10-15 02:33:59 PM  

wambu: If municipalities want to use speed and red-light cameras, they should follow and obey the law.

As well, they should not 'game the system' in an attempt to increase revenues since the cameras are installed for the safety of the public, not for the benefit of local coffers (or so they claim in contretemps of their actual behavior).


I was riding with one of my friends, who warned others of a speed-trap by flashing his lights. Not 2 minutes later, an officer was on our tail, and the cop marched over to my buddy and said 'Sir, do you know I could take you to jail for doing that'?

And my friend said 'Doing what? Trying to get others to slow down, so there won't be a wreck'? The officer knew he was in the wrong and just barked 'I better never catch you doing that again, or we'll have to take you to jail'.

So yeah, it's more for the revenue than it is for public safety

Claiming otherwise is simply niave.
 
2011-10-15 02:34:42 PM  

Gobobo: [ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com image 500x374]

[blog.extremesportscafe.com image 595x385][static.guim.co.uk image 460x276][www.bournemouthecho.co.uk image 300x293]

/Just sayin'
//kill 'em with fire!


boourns.cjb.net
 
2011-10-15 02:36:02 PM  

MyRandomName: simonbarfsinister: MyRandomName: Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.

So you violated the guys rights by not giving him his chance in court. Your company made his guilty plea without his consent. Fark you and your company.

O.K. here goes.
The camera should be illegal. The tickets generated by the camera should not be enforceable. However the posters employer ( further known as 'Car rental co.') was well within their rights to pass this along. 1 ticket may be contestable if the driver has cause to contest. But 9??? Including one with the roman salute? This is obviously "F*ck you let the car rental co. pay for it!!!" I'm innocent because its not MY car. Try to find me pigs!

If this is valid you should let me rent some of your tools. You know cause, F*ck it, its not mine is a valid concept with you.

I'll give you $20 for 20 minutes rental on your car. Lets make the pick-up and drop-off point a few blocks from your local bank. I'm certain you have no problem with this. Since you likely don't have the ability to process a credit card on the spot I'm good with just paying in cash.

As for the poster, why fark him? Because he has a job? I don't care if he works for I.G.Farben making ZyclonB. He still doesn't get to choose who it gets used on.

I bet you are the guy who floors a rental car in reverse and jumps into drive repeatedly to see how many times it takes to break the transmission.

/I like to chew my troll bait thoroughly

You are actually are defending the asshole company? Are you farking retarded?

Unlike parking tickets civil infractions are placed on the driver not on the vehicle. Speeding tickets are civil infractions, ie they are put on the person driving, not on the car. Almost every one of these states have laws that send the civil infraction TO THE DRIVER. So if someone else is driving your car and blows through the light, you are not liable for the ticket.

What this company did is declare the guy guilty and then administer the civil infraction fine on the person. What they should have done legally is either forward the drivers information (Not required, but since it was the company's car, they are more than free to do so) to the courts for them to start civil proceedings on the actual driver. The second option would be to contest the charges in court as they can prove the driver was not an employee at the company.

SO yes, call me a "troll" for actually understanding the legal proceedings surrounding these cameras. You can keep going on being ignorant. At least we know you support the removal of civil proceedings you authoritarian douche.


If I drive your car thru a red light camera zone who does the ticket get mailed to? YOU! When you prove that it was not you driving what do you do then? Pay the fine or rat me out? Should car rental clerk pay the fines or pass it to the one who did it? As a business owner I am not paying for you to play. No matter how much I like your game. The COURT makes the declaration of guilt. If you abuse my service with illegal acts I have to pay to keep doing business. It is on me to seek recovery from you.

Understanding theory is a wee bit different than knowing the practice.

I have read your posts before. You are emotional. Claim more knowledge than you display.
If you have ever read anything I have posted you would know that I am anti-police state and anti-government. Bordering sedition. I love my country but not what it has become.

Think before you post. It removes proof of idiocy from your detractors.
 
2011-10-15 02:41:55 PM  
I saw a protestor at OWS with a sign "I just don't like red-light cameras"
I lol'd
 
2011-10-15 02:44:12 PM  

MyRandomName: simonbarfsinister: MyRandomName: Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Snip

Please note that I did not contest the charge of douche bag as that is subjective and may apply.

 
2011-10-15 02:48:05 PM  

nekom: Unless I'm missing something here, this is not a lawsuit directed at a third party collections agency, so how can the FDCPA come into play here?


The FDCPA is generic with regards to who is doing the collecting. There is no third party requirement--it only requires that the entity "be in the routine business of collection", which fits here.

The argument goes like this: Threatening to revoke someone's license unless an administrative fee is paid before there is a trial consists of intimidation for the purpose of debt collection. The argument is correct and Arizona should settle because they will lose this one.

/debt collection lawyer
 
2011-10-15 02:55:25 PM  

simonbarfsinister: MyRandomName: Skyd1v: Kinda-CSB involving speed cameras...

Used to work for a fairly large car rental company. Had one guy in one of our cars blast past a speed camera not once, but NINE times. A couple of the pictures had him waving at the camera, and the last one was him flipping the bird. Of course, he didn't care, it wasn't his car, and he was long gone by the time the tickets arrived in the mail.

We still had his credit card on file though, so we dinged him the $1,350.00 he had racked up.

Guy disputed the charges, we sent Visa copies of the tickets, they upheld them.

/glad they finally got rid of those damned things.

So you violated the guys rights by not giving him his chance in court. Your company made his guilty plea without his consent. Fark you and your company.

O.K. here goes.
The camera should be illegal. The tickets generated by the camera should not be enforceable. However the posters employer ( further known as 'Car rental co.') was well within their rights to pass this along. 1 ticket may be contestable if the driver has cause to contest. But 9??? Including one with the roman salute? This is obviously "F*ck you let the car rental co. pay for it!!!" I'm innocent because its not MY car. Try to find me pigs!

If this is valid you should let me rent some of your tools. You know cause, F*ck it, its not mine is a valid concept with you.

I'll give you $20 for 20 minutes rental on your car. Lets make the pick-up and drop-off point a few blocks from your local bank. I'm certain you have no problem with this. Since you likely don't have the ability to process a credit card on the spot I'm good with just paying in cash.

As for the poster, why fark him? Because he has a job? I don't care if he works for I.G.Farben making ZyclonB. He still doesn't get to choose who it gets used on.

I bet you are the guy who floors a rental car in reverse and jumps into drive repeatedly to see how many times it takes to break the transmission.

/I like to chew my troll bait thoroughly


As long as you chew before you swallow and don't swim for at least 30 minutes you'll be fine.

/Good post btw
 
2011-10-15 02:58:19 PM  
By the way I believe that the persons who sign these contracts are fraudulently represent themselves as representatives of "the people". The whole camera scheme is nothing more than automated institutionalized theft. The persons who sign these contracts should be held personally responsible for ALL refunds to the victims of said theft, including the community that had to pay for the equipment.
 
2011-10-15 02:59:51 PM  

simonbarfsinister: By the way I believe that the persons who sign these contracts are fraudulently represent themselves as representatives of "the people". The whole camera scheme is nothing more than automated institutionalized theft. The persons who sign these contracts should be held personally responsible for ALL refunds to the victims of said theft, including the community that had to pay for the equipment.


So much this
 
2011-10-15 03:05:21 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Trance750: dustlesswalnut: .

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.

True. I got dinged by a camera because I turned right on red, even though there was no sign saying not too. I guess they are just banking on some poor sap just paying it, no questions asked.

Or the traffic laws where you were driving made it illegal to turn right on a red light. Your ignorance of such a law would not be a valid defense.


Unless he was driving in an unfamiliar state I don't see that being the case. I'm pretty sure municipalities can't go and make blanket traffic laws that are more stringent than the state's. In other words, if they don't want right turns at red lights in a state that permits them, they have to post signs everywhere, they can't just pass a law and then ding every out of towner who didn't surf to the municipality's statute web page first.
 
2011-10-15 03:39:22 PM  

dustlesswalnut: I'd rather have higher taxes than red light/speed cameras. Figure out your goddamned budget and tax people accordingly.

Using BS systems like these to extract additional tax revenue should be illegal, especially since oftentimes 50% or more of the infraction cost goes to the company that installed the system.


So much THIS.
 
2011-10-15 04:22:51 PM  
I got a ticket in Bluff City back in May, so I am getting a kick, etc.

Total speed trap and nothing more than a revenue generator for the city. And the ticket is $50, so it's not really worth your time and effort to fight it -- just easier to pay it and move on.

When they send you your ticket in the mail you can go online and look it up using a code -- had two photos and a video of the violation. FYI -- Braking *after* the two flashes go off does not help!
 
2011-10-15 04:24:21 PM  
I've actually gotten ticketed by these assholes. Or rather, my co-worker earned the ticket, but I got it in the mail.

Don't worrying though, I was innocent until proven guilty. All I had to do was make the 1,300 mile trip back out there on the appointed date to contest the ticket, and then the judge would set a court date for several months later, and then if I showed up again and if the officer who signed for the ticket was available and if the court was running on time, after paying the $50 court fee I could plead my case.

They have some really nice people out there. They are also incredibly corrupt.
 
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