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(Some Guy) Asinine "Father' and 'mother' will be replaced with official terms Parent 1 and Parent 2 in Britain. Nanny State now officially "Primary Caregiver" state   (eutimes.net) divider line 77
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2011-10-14 09:18:53 PM
Meanwhile, subby screams at the 21st century to get off his lawn.
 
2011-10-14 09:28:30 PM
Newer isn't always better.
 
2011-10-14 09:53:15 PM
Excellent news source there, pantsonheadmitter. If that article wasn't trolly enough, try one of the headlines on the right, like "Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops to Prepare for Civil War."
 
2011-10-14 10:10:14 PM
That's a great leap forward! Cause all this linguistically gymnastic bullmuffinery has so vastly improved the quality of life! Mostly for people who desperately need something to be pissy and self-righteous about! Go future!!1!1!

www.thegeminigeek.com

/ ah muh sanitation consultant!
//Yee hoo1
 
2011-10-15 07:10:32 AM
We've had this in place in Aust for some time now. Welcome to the 21st century, UK.

Plan on ever joining us, US? Or will the "BUT JESUS.." keep getting in the way?
 
2011-10-15 07:23:42 AM
" Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr.."

/ Just replace the Carl's Jr. name with the appropriate government agency.
 
2011-10-15 07:24:49 AM
Reported by the Daily Mail and picked up by a "Britain first" anti-EU webrag. It's a dumb idea and frankly this is just someone, somewhere implimenting change for the sake of getting their name on something.

OTOH it does make us ready for the first vat grown clone.
 
2011-10-15 07:25:46 AM
Boo F'ing Hoo, grow a pair.

The state just realizes that there are possible scenarios outside what used to be the traditional ones and is recognizing that, it isn't like they are forcing it on you just using it for documentation.

The problem nowadays is everybody is damned sensitive and if you please some the others cry, people need to get a grip.
 
2011-10-15 07:26:40 AM
rev. dave: " Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr.."

/ Just replace the Carl's Jr. name with the appropriate government agency. Hitler


www.ceramicstoday.comFY
 
2011-10-15 07:29:42 AM
Wait, why can't you just call them father and father if it's a male homosexual couple, and mother and mother if it's a female homosexual couple? And if it's an issue with the title of Mr. Mrs. Ms. just call them by their name without a prefix. And if they're transgendered, just call them Nicholas Cage.
 
2011-10-15 07:30:15 AM
They saved sanctity of words "father" and "mother". No more fathers with vaginas and mothers with penises (peni?)
 
2011-10-15 07:30:44 AM
Isn't it kind of insulting to be called Parent 2?
 
2011-10-15 07:32:29 AM
BattleFrenchie28: Isn't it kind of insulting to be called Parent 2?

Yeah, they should go with Parent 1 and Parent A.
 
2011-10-15 07:39:30 AM
Vern
Wait, why can't you just call them father and father if it's a male homosexual couple...

It's been done before, so I've no idea what this new problem is.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-10-15 07:43:41 AM
"Father" and "Mother" are NOT being replaced, Subby.

Read the BBC and Daily Mail articles the TFA cited. Even the Daily Wail had to admit it, although they buried it in their article.

Daily Wail headline: "Goodbye, mother and father! Now Parent 1 and Parent 2 appear on PC passport form"

Daily Wail article: "Currently, the application form provides the relevant boxes of "mother" and "father" to be completed. The new form to be introduced by December 2011 will in addition provide for "parent 1" and "parent 2"."
 
2011-10-15 07:47:23 AM
Hello MuddaParent One,
Hello FarderParent Two,
I am here at
Camp Granada...

/not quite the same tone to it...
 
2011-10-15 07:47:36 AM
British citizens will soon be able to identify "parent one" and "parent two" instead of their father and mother, and decline to identify themselves as male or female on their passports.

Their choice, but I see this causing problems in some countries.
 
2011-10-15 07:53:50 AM
I am outraged,
what about 'parent 3', 'parent 4', etc
This is sheer bigotry and prejudice against polygamous/polyandrous families and I am going to be writing to my MP
 
2011-10-15 07:54:35 AM
It's Obama's fault!
 
2011-10-15 07:58:03 AM
"biatch" and "Butch" are vastly superior. Perfect example of how a few Brits can ruin a decent idea, ya nancy pillocks..
 
2011-10-15 08:01:30 AM
The option to include two male or two female parents on a passport, further legally cementing their status as the parents of their child=the breakdown of family units. Got it.

furterfan: I am outraged,
what about 'parent 3', 'parent 4', etc
This is sheer bigotry and prejudice against polygamous/polyandrous families and I am going to be writing to my MP


The temptation to start an e-petition is considerable.
 
2011-10-15 08:09:03 AM
furterfan: I am outraged,
what about 'parent 3', 'parent 4', etc
This is sheer bigotry and prejudice against polygamous/polyandrous families and I am going to be writing to my MP


I am disappointed at the paternalistic nature of the name "parent" and its implications to the relationship between the individuals in my close family.

I prefer "biological source material" or "legal guardian".
 
2011-10-15 08:22:19 AM
bunner: That's a great leap forward! Cause all this linguistically gymnastic bullmuffinery has so vastly improved the quality of life! Mostly for people who desperately need something to be pissy and self-righteous about! Go future!!1!1!

[www.thegeminigeek.com image 336x408]

/ ah muh sanitation consultant!
//Yee hoo1


Works both ways. If the change in the lingua franca is as minor as you describe than anyone getting upset about it for any reason is an over-reacting, alarmist nimrod.


Besides, it's not like people ever actually listen to what they're told they're "supposed" to say instead of whatever it is they'd normally say anyway.

Can't say I see a fire here, from any side.
 
2011-10-15 08:22:27 AM
Claude Ballse: Vern
Wait, why can't you just call them father and father if it's a male homosexual couple...

It's been done before, so I've no idea what this new problem is.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 370x296]


And this is that chick from My Two Dads (and Step by Step) today:

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2011-10-15 08:23:28 AM
Ah, application forms. if there were any way for them to take all the humanity out of something, this is it. just tell me when i can sign for my government appointed HAL 9000 Nanny Unit.
 
2011-10-15 08:29:04 AM
And how is this is a problem?
 
2011-10-15 08:29:57 AM
royal personage 1 to replace king
Germans to refer to their country as the Parent 1 Land.
 
2011-10-15 08:33:26 AM
snuff3r: We've had this in place in Aust for some time now. Welcome to the 21st century, UK.

Plan on ever joining us, US? Or will the "BUT JESUS.." keep getting in the way?


I think it's the desire to not cave to political correctness run amok. EVERYONE has a mom and a dad.... whether or not they have a 2nd mom or 2nd dad.

I know you may hate this ladies and gents, but you still need and egg and sperm to make a kid. Sorry.
 
2011-10-15 08:36:37 AM
moralpanic: It's Obama's fault!
 
2011-10-15 08:36:54 AM
Since when is it necessary to 'SPRESS YO-SELF on government forms. Seriously.. who the hell is offended by "mother" and "father" ??? Those are the people with the real problem and the real complex.

I don't have a parent 1 and parent 2... this isn't Dr. Suessvile. I have a mother and a father. Stop turning shiat on its ear and then telling everyone else they are retarded for not towing YOUR line. Give me a break.

Put two mothers or two fathers if you want... "parent #1" is absurd.
 
2011-10-15 08:59:54 AM
If you really think about it, Parent 2 is a demeaning term that might lessen the alternate parent's self esteem. Therefore to be truly fair, accurate and perfectly politically correct just use the word PARENT, you morans!
 
2011-10-15 09:00:13 AM
Can someone explain to me why this is an issue? Same sex couples can adopt, IVF, transgendered couples that don't fit into the sex binary can be parents too e.t.c. Mother and Father aren't even being replaced on the form, they are just adding options of Parent 1 and Parent 2 instead. New signs for new times people; get over it.
 
2011-10-15 09:00:25 AM
next: son/daughter replaced by child, brother/sister with sibling.

Aunt or uncle with parent's sibling.

Come on, really now?
 
2011-10-15 09:04:33 AM
Dundasbro: Can someone explain to me why this is an issue? Same sex couples can adopt, IVF, transgendered couples that don't fit into the sex binary can be parents too e.t.c. Mother and Father aren't even being replaced on the form, they are just adding options of Parent 1 and Parent 2 instead. New signs for new times people; get over it.

Because many people hate gay people.
 
2011-10-15 09:08:59 AM
BattleFrenchie28: Isn't it kind of insulting to be called Parent 2?


Who does number 2 work for?
 
2011-10-15 09:16:46 AM
I thought the term was 'parental units'
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2011-10-15 09:27:46 AM
How do you decide who is 1 and who is 2? Does it matter if they alternate?

/does anyone really give a fark?
 
2011-10-15 09:37:59 AM
Parent 2 = 1 better?
 
2011-10-15 09:38:15 AM
GLove88mph: Meanwhile, subby screams at the 21st century to get off his lawn.

I think it's stupid, asinine, and overprotective...
 
2011-10-15 09:40:03 AM
skylabdown: EVERYONE has a mom

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2011-10-15 09:41:13 AM
LewDux: They saved sanctity of words "father" and "mother". No more fathers with vaginas and mothers with penises (peni?)

Penes

Latin, biatches.
 
2011-10-15 09:42:05 AM
moof: skylabdown: EVERYONE has a mom

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Yep.. That person is XX.
 
2011-10-15 09:44:12 AM
So why not just user mother/mother or father/father.

This troll of an article has it backwards. This move is an attempt to strip same-sex couples their parental identities and not the gay community trying to destroy the world like the article is trying to portray.
 
2011-10-15 09:49:03 AM
Kit Fister: GLove88mph: Meanwhile, subby screams at the 21st century to get off his lawn.

I think it's stupid, asinine, and overprotective...


If two lesbians are raising a child, which is the father? Why is the OPTION to list parent 1 and parent 2 stupid?
 
2011-10-15 10:01:11 AM
This seems like something that needs to be tailored to the purpose of the form. For something like a passport, a country with birth citizenship is likely to want the names of the applicant's biological parents. On something like a family tax form, however, the important thing is going to be the current legally-recognized family (taking into account divorces, adoptions, etc.).

Of course, you already have to explicitly distinguish between these two different "families" in the form's instructions anyway, since there isn't a set of words that includes one type and excludes the other. Considering that the legally-recognized family should probably be "Parent 1" and "Parent 2" (since computer systems don't tend to cope well with the word "Father" or "Mother" being "crossed out"), both sets might as well be.
 
2011-10-15 10:09:26 AM
alowishus: Kit Fister: GLove88mph: Meanwhile, subby screams at the 21st century to get off his lawn.

I think it's stupid, asinine, and overprotective...

If two lesbians are raising a child, which is the father? Why is the OPTION to list parent 1 and parent 2 stupid?


Off hand, I'd say the one with the mullet is automatically the father.
 
2011-10-15 10:11:42 AM
A surprising number of people don't have a person to call "Father" or "Mother". . . but I suppose they're just being ornery leftists if they want to correctly identify their parents or caregivers on a form.
 
2011-10-15 10:29:07 AM
Thing 1 and Thing 2 are always trouble, any child knows that.

Won't somebody think of the goldfish?
 
2011-10-15 10:32:37 AM
moralpanic: And how is this is a problem?

It's not necessarily a problem, it's just incredibly stupid.
 
2011-10-15 10:38:50 AM
alowishus:
If two lesbians are raising a child, which is the father?


The one with the mullet. Duh.
 
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