cmunic8r99: Quasar: How long does it take to cook grits with each one?



About five minutes. I'm a fast cook!

So you're telling me that the laws of physics cease to exist in your kitchen? That a pot of water, magically boils faster in your kitchen, than anyone else's?

OK, this is only tangentially related, but I just got an iPad and I wanted to share this. If you want to keep porn on your iPad but don't want anyone to find it, buy an app called Tic-Tac-Lock. I believe it's only $1.99 and it looks and operates just like a tic tac toe game, but if you tap the boxes in a pattern you create, it unlocks a secret library.

Atomic Spunk: OK, this is only tangentially related, but I just got an iPad and I wanted to share this. If you want to keep porn on your iPad but don't want anyone to find it, buy an app called Tic-Tac-Lock. I believe it's only $1.99 and it looks and operates just like a tic tac toe game, but if you tap the boxes in a pattern you create, it unlocks a secret library.

My Android phone has an app that does that.

It was free.


/I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

And Apple claiming they invented the look of the iPad?

How about something that looked exactly the same in 1969?

Flint Ironstag: /I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

You should download the Amazon Appstore-- one free paid app every day. It's pretty hit or miss, but the only app I've ever paid for is ClockworkMod's ROM Manager. Have 150-200 other ones, mostly from the Amazon Appstore.

Winning: Are competitors expected to create non-standard size screens with random shaped bezels?

That's the thing-- the Galaxy 10.1 has a 16x9 screen ratio while the iPad has a 4:3 ratio. They're different.

/rounded corners?
//never had a device with sharp corners
///they have a patent on the radius of their corners or what?

Flint Ironstag: Atomic Spunk: OK, this is only tangentially related, but I just got an iPad and I wanted to share this. If you want to keep porn on your iPad but don't want anyone to find it, buy an app called Tic-Tac-Lock. I believe it's only $1.99 and it looks and operates just like a tic tac toe game, but if you tap the boxes in a pattern you create, it unlocks a secret library.

My Android phone has an app that does that.

It was free.


/I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

yeah, but atomic spunk doesent sell that one and spam threads about it.

Flint Ironstag: Atomic Spunk: OK, this is only tangentially related, but I just got an iPad and I wanted to share this. If you want to keep porn on your iPad but don't want anyone to find it, buy an app called Tic-Tac-Lock. I believe it's only $1.99 and it looks and operates just like a tic tac toe game, but if you tap the boxes in a pattern you create, it unlocks a secret library.

My Android phone has an app that does that.

It was free.


/I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

Thanks. When I decide to swap out my iPad for an Android phone, I'll certainly keep that in mind.

Why don't the lawyers for Samsung set up a macbook and a laptop and show how similar they look. Or two desktops and show how similar they look? I could see if the were getting into the similarities in function or applications but on how they look? Seems kind of silly to me.

star trek did it.

Theaetetus: Do you have a clip that shows it being picked up and manipulated in 3D? If not, it's not "exactly the same". The one in your clip could be (and actually was) a CRT embedded in a table, and is therefore not anticipatory of the patent application.

How about Star Trek PADDs? There were hundreds of those used in the various series and movies decades before the iPad was patented.

Theaetetus: Yeah, screen size is the only thing competitors changed.

All of those previous form factors still exist, and they run full OSs, not limited mobile OSs.

GreenAdder: I'm still curious to see how this "we invented the rectangle with rounded corners" lawsuit is going to pan out.

ridiculous characterization. They're not claiming they invented rounded rectangles. They're claiming they invented rounded rectangles of any aspect ratio between 3" and 16" on the diagonal.

Theaetetus: Different, though.

One thing to bear in mind is that this is about a design patent, not a utility patent... Design patents are much narrower. You kinda have to work to infringe a design patent.





How about these ones?

So very different:

Flint Ironstag: My Android phone has an app that does that.

It was free.


/I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

Because not paying for an app encourages more quality apps!

Theaetetus: And that's all irrelevant to a design patent.

Here are the two devices side by side. While similar in that they both have a black bezel and rounded corners, they are different in several ways:

1. Display ratio-- iPad is 4:3 while the Galaxy 10.1 is 16:9
2. Bezel size- iPad has a significantly thicker bezel.
3. Camera- The Galaxy 10.1 has a front-mounted camera for video conferencing/camsex.



Similar isn't illegal. Nobody is buying a Galaxy 10.1 thinking it's an iPad, they know what they're buying. (A better device.)

Theaetetus: Winning: GreenAdder: I'm still curious to see how this "we invented the rectangle with rounded corners" lawsuit is going to pan out.

Yeah, it seems pretty odd that such a thing could be patented.

Are competitors expected to create non-standard size screens with random shaped bezels?

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Yeah, screen size is the only thing competitors changed.

Um, nope. Go look at the tablet roundups from CES 2010, several weeks before apple showed the iPad.

Several had very similar designs to what apple would show a month later.

Theaetetus: Tickle Mittens: GreenAdder: I'm still curious to see how this "we invented the rectangle with rounded corners" lawsuit is going to pan out.

ridiculous characterization. They're not claiming they invented rounded rectangles. They're claiming they invented rounded rectangles of any aspect ratio between 3" and 16" on the diagonal.

Check out this article. Design patents are really, really narrow. Samsung would have had an easier time not infringing this patent than they did infringing it... but then they couldn't capitalize on the market advantage of having a look-alike counterfeit.

The galaxy is a pretty different aspect ratio. like 12% different. Like 12% better for video different. Apple attempting to extend their claim over a design consideration clearly emphasized in another design and presumably eschewed by their own... well, it's somewhere on the cunning/foolish spectrum of the corporate venn diagram

Antimatter: Several had very similar designs to what apple would show a month later.

For those that are too lazy:











All from CES 2009.

TheShavingofOccam123: How the hell do app producers make money? Aren't ads blocked on Android apps now?

If you root it and install AdFree, sure. Otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about.

Theaetetus: Flint Ironstag: And Apple claiming they invented the look of the iPad?

How about something that looked exactly the same in 1969?

Do you have a clip that shows it being picked up and manipulated in 3D? If not, it's not "exactly the same". The one in your clip could be (and actually was) a CRT embedded in a table, and is therefore not anticipatory of the patent application.

Prior art and patents do not work that way.

Though actually a CRT hidden in the table it was clearly meant to be a thin, portable, device.
That qualifies as prior art.

/Have two patents myself.

TheShavingofOccam123: bravian: Flint Ironstag: My Android phone has an app that does that.

It was free.


/I've never paid for an app ever.
//Got about fifty.

Because not paying for an app encourages more quality apps!

How the hell do app producers make money? Aren't ads blocked on Android apps now?

Small ads in apps. Or some are just free.

This reminds me of an old picture (which I am sad to admit I can't find) of the black and white side profiles of about 15 mid-1990's midsize sedans. I could pick out maybe 3, and I knew my cars.

When form follows function, sometimes everything starts to look the same. Apple is just the first major, publicly watched company to have a business model that depends on lawsuits over intuitive design features. And for that, they suck.

AlsoTheShavingofOccam123: oh. i thought AdFree didn't require rooting. I see.

Yeah, and the people that install AdFree weren't going to click your ad in the first place. The other 90% of users have no idea what an adblocker is, much less how to install or configure one.

GreenAdder: I'm still curious to see how this "we invented the rectangle with rounded corners" lawsuit is going to pan out.

Yeah, thats a stupid argument, you could hold any tablet up and not be able to identify the farking thing.


The judge sounds like a retard.

Theaetetus: Yeah, screen size is the only thing competitors changed.

So now you are saying that apple invented the cluttered desktop look?

Just the usual Dick move by Lord Job$ to protect crApple's failed Infrior products

Even the smug Fanboys won't by the overpriced inferior garbage that crApple makes so they have to Sue evryone out of business. Meanwhile open source Droid tablets are dominating the market and changing the Computing world.

Droid is Freedom.
Droid is open.
Droid is the innovatve Technology of the Future.

Droid_Yes: Just the usual Dick move by Lord Job$ to protect crApple's failed Infrior products

Even the smug Fanboys won't by the overpriced inferior garbage that crApple makes so they have to Sue evryone out of business. Meanwhile open source Droid tablets are dominating the market and changing the Computing world.

Droid is Freedom.
Droid is open.
Droid is the innovatve Technology of the Future.

I don't take sides, but I loved hearing a MS hater complain about how Microsoft has discouraged innovation due to unfair trade practices shortly after praising Apple.

Did anyone read the article? They picked the correct tablet.

GreenAdder: I'm still curious to see how this "we invented the rectangle with rounded corners" lawsuit is going to pan out.

I'm pretty sure the CSS 3 working draft invented the rectangle with rounded courners.

/has a problem with this

//obscure?

Koh frequently remarked on the similarity between each company's tablets. At one point during the hearing, she held one black glass tablet in each hand above her head, and asked Sullivan if she could identify which company produced which.

I wonder if I asked a judge to identify Javascript on one monitor and Java on the other they would be able to do so. And I severely doubt anyone in the entirety of the computer science world would claim that such had the slightest meaning in any sense other than "you're a farking retarded law school douche weasel."

Law school douche weasels have no business interpreting product design as "unique" or not.

This man would like to file a prior art claim.



But he's dead, Jim.

IBM slaps forehead: