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(New York Daily News) Spiffy Watch out San Diego Comic Con fans, New York's version is becoming more powerful, may swipe it out from under your nerdy noses. That's right, dems' fightin' words   (nydailynews.com) divider line 36
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2011-10-13 08:07:33 PM
I have three underlings (twenty-somethings) from my department at work who asked for today and tomorrow off to go to this. Being that they're all good artists, they got the time off from the agency to go have fun.

/well deserved
//don't worry kids, us old timers will take up the slack
 
2011-10-13 08:21:49 PM
AlwaysRightBoy:
You realize they are going to farking jump ship and do comics.

Idiot.

NEVER give artist the day off. We will rape you business wise if we can.

Nah, just kidding. They are making much more then they ever will in comics.

Could NYCCC beat San Diego? Possible-if they just stick to comics. The major publishers are on the east coast. Many of the talent are local. Europeans have a much better time to get to NYC than SD.

The problem with SDCC is that it became too much of a Hollywood stomping ground. Far too crowded and now in several buildings. But then that is the advantage that SDCC has over NYC. Better weather and a lot o Hollywood people.
 
2011-10-13 08:31:41 PM
You know to boot, we filed it under 'business seminar' so these yuts don't lose any PTO time.

/I don't know much about Comic Con but it has considerable interest among the Ad field here in NYC.
 
2011-10-13 08:47:06 PM
AlwaysRightBoy: You know to boot, we filed it under 'business seminar' so these yuts don't lose any PTO time.

/I don't know much about Comic Con but it has considerable interest among the Ad field here in NYC.


You mean interest from clients or interest among the employees? Comics are just another place that gets mined for material now days...
 
2011-10-13 09:15:51 PM
Darth_Lukecash: employees

Just interest among the employees.

/I'm in a different ad game than comics now

//I worked for Fangoria in the early eighties. Does that count for anything?
 
2011-10-13 09:16:37 PM
Any Farkers going?
 
2011-10-13 10:27:14 PM
I used to work at Jacob Javits one and a half lifetimes ago, I wonder if all the routes I used to know to get into shows free are still there?
 
2011-10-13 11:00:01 PM
I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.
 
2011-10-13 11:31:55 PM
Picked up 5 show exclusives today. Put em up on ebay cheap, if they all sell it'll have paid for my ticket, which is what I try to go for. Screw those guy buying 9 of some bobble-head to price gouge.

Anyway, it looks like they took last years feedback to heart, the aisles are wider and the show is spread out over more of the Javits. They also managed the lines much better this year, although my guess is Saturday will still be nuts. Panels and screenings look pretty weak, but they are attracting more and more A-Listers.
 
2011-10-13 11:35:53 PM
Obscure Login: I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.


4-day, 85$, it's really normal market price for its size. I understand it's more expensive on saturday usually for the major activities and people going in.
Near its size is DragonCon in Atlanta, where the weekend is around 70 to 120$ depending how soon you get your registration.
San Diego is around 175$ and some people still have to waste a whole morning trying to make sure they get the next year's registration.
 
2011-10-13 11:47:44 PM
Darth_Lukecash: AlwaysRightBoy:
You realize they are going to farking jump ship and do comics.

Idiot.

NEVER give artist the day off. We will rape you business wise if we can.

Nah, just kidding. They are making much more then they ever will in comics.


No joke. When after two issues we told other creators we had broken even, they were amazed.
 
2011-10-13 11:57:35 PM
Well, GOOD! San Diego Comic-Con is getting old & busted, and the hotels rip everyone off. I haven't been to NYC before anyway, so that might be fun.
 
2011-10-14 12:25:02 AM
Sun, great weather, and amazing-looking women...or bum-piss and shadows from skyscrapers? Hmmm...let me think that over for a second.

San Diego wins...no contest.
 
2011-10-14 01:35:36 AM
I always wondered why nobody ever proposed an NYCC Fark Party. I mean, there are lots of Farkers in NYC and the metro area, and there's a good chance of lots of Farkers going there.
 
2011-10-14 03:22:18 AM
Is there where I go to complain about movies and television shows at Comic-Con but never support my local comic shops or the comic-only conventions?
 
2011-10-14 04:44:17 AM
Obscure Login: I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.


That's a fairly standard price for an event of that size and magnitude. Smaller conventions will charge a lot less because they simply have less going on. Something as big as NYCC? Yeah, that's actually a pretty good price.
 
2011-10-14 05:08:13 AM
AlwaysRightBoy: You know to boot, we filed it under 'business seminar' so these yuts don't lose any PTO time.

/I don't know much about Comic Con but it has considerable interest among the Ad field here in NYC.


wah? A company being nice and cool to its employees? Such a thing I never thought to see on fark.

/sigh, I HAVE to spend two days down in London next month. Unfortunatly at an all day x2 conference about upcoming changes in a data transfer protocol. Trying to figure out where I'm going to go eat the first night to at least have some fun.
 
2011-10-14 05:16:03 AM
Darth_Lukecash: AlwaysRightBoy:
You realize they are going to farking jump ship and do comics.

Idiot.

NEVER give artist the day off. We will rape you business wise if we can.

Nah, just kidding. They are making much more then they ever will in comics.

Could NYCCC beat San Diego? Possible-if they just stick to comics. The major publishers are on the east coast. Many of the talent are local. Europeans have a much better time to get to NYC than SD.

The problem with SDCC is that it became too much of a Hollywood stomping ground. Far too crowded and now in several buildings. But then that is the advantage that SDCC has over NYC. Better weather and a lot o Hollywood people.


The only downside to the NYCCC is the sheer expense of doing business in NYC,
but overall I think the advantages you delineate outweigh that.

SDCC long ago became a general Hollywood trade show, and the strong NYC geek
fan community needs a new central gathering event.
 
2011-10-14 05:17:56 AM
Obscure Login: I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.


Yup, though from what I've heard from my friends who are going, they sold out on
pre-reg, so at-the-door day passes may not even be available.

Wish I was still in the NY area so I could check it out.
 
2011-10-14 07:40:49 AM
I thought DragonCon was the Eastern Comicon equivalent

Am I just out of it?
 
2011-10-14 08:01:44 AM
Oh, great. Just what we need.

Hipsters wearing their furry cos-play costumes ironically.
 
2011-10-14 08:57:16 AM
DjangoStonereaver: Obscure Login: I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.

Yup, though from what I've heard from my friends who are going, they sold out on
pre-reg, so at-the-door day passes may not even be available.

Wish I was still in the NY area so I could check it out.


They're sold out except for Friday tickets, according to the email I just got.
 
2011-10-14 09:11:55 AM
A lot of my friends are going to this. However, this Con has been squeezing the Animes out for the last two years since they combined both NYCC and NYAF.

Otakon will still reign supreme because it takes place in the summer compared to October and they focus more on Anime and Japanese culture. Hence why all the indie EGL brands debut at Otakon and redo it again at NYCC. Comic Con has existed for years and AX has never gone away even though both conventions occur around the same time.

NYCC should take place around Columbus Day weekend or Veterans Day weekend to take advantage of the holiday crowd that's off work.
 
2011-10-14 10:11:28 AM
Is she gonna be there? If not, I'll stick with San Diego.

media.animevice.com
 
2011-10-14 10:44:45 AM
I've been to NYCC twice. And until they either find a bigger venue than the Javits Center (the Garden, maybe?) or reduce the number of vendors so they can widen the aisles, I won't be going back. Far FAR too crowded in there last year.
 
2011-10-14 10:46:26 AM
OhioKnight: I thought DragonCon was the Eastern Comicon equivalent

Am I just out of it?


Comic-Con is nerd prom, Dragon*Con is nerd Mardi Gras.
 
2011-10-14 11:25:12 AM
Arachnophobe: I've been to NYCC twice. And until they either find a bigger venue than the Javits Center (the Garden, maybe?) or reduce the number of vendors so they can widen the aisles, I won't be going back. Far FAR too crowded in there last year.

BIGGER than Javitz? In NYC? You won't find it.

Jeez, how big is NYCC? I suspect they didn't have the entire Javitz Center; back in
the 1990s (before the recent expansion), I talked to some people who were thinking of
putting together a WorldCon bid, which assumes 10K attendance, and that wouldn't
have half filled the basement of the JC.

The Gaylord at the National Harbor outside of DC has 180,000 square feet of exhibit
space and it handled 3 conventions with a total of at least 10,000 attendies between
them while still feeling almost deserted. Javitz has 675,000 square feet (as per
Wikipedia, which could be the pre-expansion size; I found elsewhere a number of
760,000 square feet). I seriously doubt NYCC got 40,000, but then again: I've never
been.

/Helps run cons in his spare time. Stop looking at me like that.
 
2011-10-14 11:45:29 AM
I've had this question forever but we rarely have a thread where I can ask it, so I'll put it here:

There any Farker out there who knows enough about how the US Comics industry works to tell me why something like Shounen Jump has never developed in the states? Admittedly, I know very little about the subject, but Jump's system seems a much better approach to serialization and the business generally, both from a business and an artistic standpoint, than the constant rehashing of tired old ideas that we see from the Big Two and their one series an issue, hold onto the IP like grim death, model.
 
2011-10-14 12:13:04 PM
Wellon Dowd: Is she gonna be there? If not, I'll stick with San Diego.

[media.animevice.com image 426x640]


Agreed. Revealing Cosplay will be the deciding factor...

pwbeat.publishersweekly.com
 
2011-10-14 12:27:51 PM
minnesotaboy: Agreed. Revealing Cosplay will be the deciding factor...

I've lived in San Diego on and off for thirty years or so, and went to ComicCon for the first time this year. I did much ogling.
 
2011-10-14 01:04:16 PM
DjangoStonereaver: Arachnophobe: I've been to NYCC twice. And until they either find a bigger venue than the Javits Center (the Garden, maybe?) or reduce the number of vendors so they can widen the aisles, I won't be going back. Far FAR too crowded in there last year.

BIGGER than Javitz? In NYC? You won't find it.

Jeez, how big is NYCC? I suspect they didn't have the entire Javitz Center; back in
the 1990s (before the recent expansion), I talked to some people who were thinking of
putting together a WorldCon bid, which assumes 10K attendance, and that wouldn't
have half filled the basement of the JC.

The Gaylord at the National Harbor outside of DC has 180,000 square feet of exhibit
space and it handled 3 conventions with a total of at least 10,000 attendies between
them while still feeling almost deserted. Javitz has 675,000 square feet (as per
Wikipedia, which could be the pre-expansion size; I found elsewhere a number of
760,000 square feet). I seriously doubt NYCC got 40,000, but then again: I've never
been.

/Helps run cons in his spare time. Stop looking at me like that.


Estimated attendance of 96,000 last year, which is the year that broke me. Granted, that's over all three days, but I was there on Saturday, which is generally the busiest day of any con. I am not claustrophobic, but trying to quite literally shove my way through a packed tight crowd to get out of the aisle had me near panicking.
 
2011-10-14 02:16:56 PM
Arachnophobe: DjangoStonereaver: Arachnophobe: I've been to NYCC twice. And until they either find a bigger venue than the Javits Center (the Garden, maybe?) or reduce the number of vendors so they can widen the aisles, I won't be going back. Far FAR too crowded in there last year.

BIGGER than Javitz? In NYC? You won't find it.

Jeez, how big is NYCC? I suspect they didn't have the entire Javitz Center; back in
the 1990s (before the recent expansion), I talked to some people who were thinking of
putting together a WorldCon bid, which assumes 10K attendance, and that wouldn't
have half filled the basement of the JC.

The Gaylord at the National Harbor outside of DC has 180,000 square feet of exhibit
space and it handled 3 conventions with a total of at least 10,000 attendies between
them while still feeling almost deserted. Javitz has 675,000 square feet (as per
Wikipedia, which could be the pre-expansion size; I found elsewhere a number of
760,000 square feet). I seriously doubt NYCC got 40,000, but then again: I've never
been.

/Helps run cons in his spare time. Stop looking at me like that.

Estimated attendance of 96,000 last year, which is the year that broke me. Granted, that's over all three days, but I was there on Saturday, which is generally the busiest day of any con. I am not claustrophobic, but trying to quite literally shove my way through a packed tight crowd to get out of the aisle had me near panicking.


Wow.

Even given that its NYC, that number utterly floors me.

No con will ever get into MSG, that's for sure.
 
2011-10-14 10:56:28 PM
minnesotaboy: Wellon Dowd: Is she gonna be there? If not, I'll stick with San Diego.

[media.animevice.com image 426x640]

Agreed. Revealing Cosplay will be the deciding factor...

[pwbeat.publishersweekly.com image 400x300]


For the com, AND for this thread.
 
2011-10-15 01:39:50 AM
Wellon Dowd: Is she gonna be there? If not, I'll stick with San Diego.

[media.animevice.com image 426x640]


O_O

who is that?? *drools*
 
2011-10-15 03:30:08 AM
Mokmo: Obscure Login: I was just thinking, oh neat, I have tomorrow off, maybe I'll just swing by. So checking out the website I see tickets are available for farking 45 dollars and they are more expensive on Sat and Sun.

People really pay at least $45 to get into these things? Holy fark.

4-day, 85$, it's really normal market price for its size. I understand it's more expensive on saturday usually for the major activities and people going in.
Near its size is DragonCon in Atlanta, where the weekend is around 70 to 120$ depending how soon you get your registration.
San Diego is around 175$ and some people still have to waste a whole morning trying to make sure they get the next year's registration.


Wanna know what's really scary? Comic-Con International, which runs the SDCC, is a non-profit.

/CCI also runs Wonder Con and the Alternative Press Expo
//Voting member of the CCI committee.
 
2011-10-17 03:22:53 AM
Arachnophobe: DjangoStonereaver: Arachnophobe: I've been to NYCC twice. And until they either find a bigger venue than the Javits Center (the Garden, maybe?) or reduce the number of vendors so they can widen the aisles, I won't be going back. Far FAR too crowded in there last year.

BIGGER than Javitz? In NYC? You won't find it.

Jeez, how big is NYCC? I suspect they didn't have the entire Javitz Center; back in
the 1990s (before the recent expansion), I talked to some people who were thinking of
putting together a WorldCon bid, which assumes 10K attendance, and that wouldn't
have half filled the basement of the JC.

The Gaylord at the National Harbor outside of DC has 180,000 square feet of exhibit
space and it handled 3 conventions with a total of at least 10,000 attendies between
them while still feeling almost deserted. Javitz has 675,000 square feet (as per
Wikipedia, which could be the pre-expansion size; I found elsewhere a number of
760,000 square feet). I seriously doubt NYCC got 40,000, but then again: I've never
been.

/Helps run cons in his spare time. Stop looking at me like that.

Estimated attendance of 96,000 last year, which is the year that broke me. Granted, that's over all three days, but I was there on Saturday, which is generally the busiest day of any con. I am not claustrophobic, but trying to quite literally shove my way through a packed tight crowd to get out of the aisle had me near panicking.


Why I stopped going to SDCC
 
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