Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

jehovahs witness protection: Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

No, you're just a RINO. Welcome to the democratic party.

jehovahs witness protection: Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

No. But you guys are too quiet.

Here is the latest version of bill I could find (new window). I'm not finding anything relevant to the complaint except this, which would seem to make specific allocation for the situation described by the bill's detractors:



Perhaps the bill has been amended since then or I've missed something, but I'm just not seeing what the detractors are seeing. And I'm a pro-choice kinda guy. I'm all for removing abortion restrictions but I think one has to be clear on what's going on.

GOP: Government small enough to fit in your vagina!

Aren't women only good for being broodmares to the conservative fundies?

So, if the broodmare can't survive a childbirth, what good is it?

This is a perfectly logical bill for conservative fundies to support.

Small, hands-off government for business.

Huge, oppressive government for everyone else.

s2s2s2: Thus reuniting baby with mommy. What's the problem here?

Who will breast feed this child in heaven?

Somacandra: Perhaps the bill has been amended since then or I've missed something, but I'm just not seeing what the detractors are seeing. And I'm a pro-choice kinda guy. I'm all for removing abortion restrictions but I think one has to be clear on what's going on.

This is the relevant part:



It's meant to exempt any hospital or doctor who refuses to provide abortion care from rules that require them to act to save the patient in emergency situations.

jehovahs witness protection: Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

NO. There's this guy:



Maybe better recognized here:

jehovahs witness protection: Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

No.

GOD'S WILL.

Also known as, "sucks to be a woman in that predicament."

Genevieve Marie: Somacandra: Perhaps the bill has been amended since then or I've missed something, but I'm just not seeing what the detractors are seeing. And I'm a pro-choice kinda guy. I'm all for removing abortion restrictions but I think one has to be clear on what's going on.

This is the relevant part:

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It's meant to exempt any hospital or doctor who refuses to provide abortion care from rules that require them to act to save the patient in emergency situations.

Yep, unfortunately, this.

Basically, a woman could be rushed to a hospital by her spouse/SO/friend because a compromised uterus is causing her to bleed out, and if the only way to save her is to abort the fetus and stop the bleeding, the hospital could flat refuse to treat her. Bonus: They'd also be under no obligation to transport her, or give her information on how to get to a facility that will treat her!

Coco LaFemme: My uterus, my business. I don't tell you what to do with your testicles, do I? I could probably crash the server posting why I support a woman's right to choose and how it personally affects me and one other person I know, but no one here needs to be bothered with that. Suffice to say though, I think the idea of the government controlling what I do with my reproductive organs is sickening.

To be fair, at least some of them view it not as what you're doing with your reproductive organs, but what you're doing with someone else's organs that happen to be inside you.

/ Devil's advocate

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Basically, a woman could be rushed to a hospital by her spouse/SO/friend because a compromised uterus is causing her to bleed out, and if the only way to save her is to abort the fetus and stop the bleeding, the hospital could flat refuse to treat her. Bonus: They'd also be under no obligation to transport her, or give her information on how to get to a facility that will treat her!

I wonder how many times this will happen before a grief-stricken spouse just goes postal.

s2s2s2: Barbigazi: Who will breast feed this child in heaven?

El Shaddai of course.

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There you have it. Aborted babies become Muslim unless you kill the mom too.

What now libs? WHAT THE F*CK NOW?

someonelse: "Life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself."

I have no idea what this means or how it would be applied to, say, a woman diagnosed with brain cancer mid-pregnancy. Regardless, I'm sure this bill will create many jobs.

That's another one of the problems with crap like this. It's left up to individual insurance companies to determine what they'll pay for under the law, and this law gives them a great excuse to deny all coverage on surgeries that include an abortion.

Does anyone really think that they'll go ahead and keep covering needed procedures when there's a great loophole that allows them to get out of paying?

clovis69: jehovahs witness protection: Am I the only conservative who believes in the right to have an abortion or marry any damn body you want?

Nope, and I'm not a RINO, I've been a Republican since before Rick Perry was out shilling for Gore.

Republicans are supposed to be the hands off party while the Democrats are the meddle with everything party. Now the majority of Republicans and all the Democrats want to meddle with everything.

See that's where I strongly disagree. I would flip it the other way.

For some reason, Republicans seem to think that economic freedom is the only freedom that matters. What about freedom to marry? Freedom to not have Christian symbols everywhere? Freedom to not say the Pledge of Allegiance? And on and on.

I really feel like Republicans are the ones who want to meddle with essentially everything except the rights of corporations, and Democrats want to meddle with everything except the rights of individuals.

(Yes, if you want to smoke, for example, it's your right, so long as you don't get it into someone else's air.)

colon_pow: i'm not a doctor, but... if you miscarried, then wouldn't an abortion be a bit superfluous?

Not all miscarriages are simple. Some of them are life-threatening and require removing the fetus, which isn't going to survive no matter what, to save the life of the mother.

In fact, there are tons of doctors that aren't being properly trained on how to do a D&C on a woman having a miscarriage, because that's the same procedure used during an abortion and medical students have to request and pay for separate training to learn how to do it.