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(St. Petersburg Times) Florida Florida governor Luthor pre-election: "I will create 700,000 jobs." Post-election: "I don't have to create any jobs, suckers"   (tampabay.com) divider line 52
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2011-10-13 11:36:32 AM
Comparing Rick Scott to Lex Luthor isn't fair to Lex Luthor.
 
2011-10-13 11:56:45 AM
www.urblife.com

Should have picked a better Luther, Florida. Now, you just all look goddamn silly, don't you?
 
2011-10-13 12:05:02 PM
A politician breaking a campaign promise? Well I'm just THOROUGHLY disillusioned now

/guess we'll just have to hope for change
 
2011-10-13 12:06:41 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: /guess we'll just have to hope for change

Awww... Look at you! How cute is that?
 
2011-10-13 12:10:56 PM
That's as many as 700 thousands.
 
2011-10-13 12:11:00 PM
Vodka Zombie: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /guess we'll just have to hope for change

Awww... Look at you! How cute is that?


When I see a new troll post for the first time it's like that scene in Jurassic Park when the raptor hatches out of the egg and it makes that little squeak.
 
2011-10-13 12:22:06 PM
Quasar: Vodka Zombie: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /guess we'll just have to hope for change

Awww... Look at you! How cute is that?

When I see a new troll post for the first time it's like that scene in Jurassic Park when the raptor hatches out of the egg and it makes that little squeak.


I'm not a new troll, I'm an old troll. I'm just feeling a bit more disappointed with the Obama administration lately.
Just being a bit snarky today
 
2011-10-13 12:23:17 PM
Quasar: Vodka Zombie: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /guess we'll just have to hope for change

Awww... Look at you! How cute is that?

When I see a new troll post for the first time it's like that scene in Jurassic Park when the raptor hatches out of the egg and it makes that little squeak.


I know. They're like toddlers taking their first steps --all clumsy and drooling. It's a magical moment.
 
2011-10-13 12:26:59 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just being a bit snarky today

Fair enough.
 
2011-10-13 01:02:12 PM
smooshie: That's as many as 700 thousands 0 zeroes.

And that's terrible.
 
2011-10-13 01:05:00 PM
When is he going to announce drilling off the coast of florida?
 
2011-10-13 01:05:34 PM
But that was before he realized everyone had anthropological degrees.

Sheesh, cut the guy a break!

/Yeah, he's awful
 
2011-10-13 01:05:57 PM
Mugato: Comparing Rick Scott to Lex Luthor isn't fair to Lex Luthor.

Yeah, Lex Luthor is the man.
 
2011-10-13 01:08:13 PM
Of course; Republicans have told us this whole time that the government has never created a single job, and can only act in ways that harm the economy. I guarantee you Rick Scott feels he was being more honest than Obama was, since Obama claims his stimulus plan saved or created jobs when we all know it caused this recession.
 
2011-10-13 01:08:27 PM
It can't take all 700,000 people just to poison alligators, bury radioactive waste in the swamps, or disenfranchise old people. It must the be new secret superport for teh south american drug cartels' shipping enterprise.
 
2011-10-13 01:09:05 PM
I really, really don't like the guy, and he was an idiot for ever suggesting he could pull in 700,000 jobs (on top of a projected 1 million). Unfortunately, he sort of has a point -- the entire nation is recovering very slowly, you can't exactly expect Florida to be any different.
 
2011-10-13 01:10:08 PM
It's not just Scott. The reps picked up positions all over the place last year on a platform of job creation. Since the rise of OWS, the party line has shifted to "anyone that's still unemployed only has themselves to blame." As best as I can tell, unemployment rates haven't improved that much since they were elected.
 
2011-10-13 01:10:19 PM
And that's terrible.
 
2011-10-13 01:10:52 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Governor Luthor? I heard he had Presidential aspirations...
 
2011-10-13 01:17:45 PM
All Republican candidates when discussing stimulus: "The Government can't create jobs and we can't afford any new spending!"

All Republican candidates when campaigning: "If elected I will create a brazillion jobs completely through tax cuts* which are totally free!"

*Tax cuts do not apply to the poor and the middle class, who will have their taxes raised and benefits cut.
 
2011-10-13 01:18:58 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother, I talked... just... like... THIS!
 
2011-10-13 01:19:02 PM
IrateShadow: It's not just Scott. The reps picked up positions all over the place last year on a platform of job creation. Since the rise of OWS, the party line has shifted to "anyone that's still unemployed only has themselves to blame." As best as I can tell, unemployment rates haven't improved that much since they were elected.

Look they created all the jobs they promised when they repealed Obamacare in the House, passed those new abortion restrictions, and defunded ACORN. The problem is all these hippies and welfare queens refuse to take them and stay on unemployment rather than work. This is a Democrat trick to make the Tea Party look bad, and the only solution is to cut off subsidies to the poor to make them get off their ass and contribute for once in their lives.
 
2011-10-13 01:26:04 PM
Why don't you hippies take another drug test. The govs wife wants to exercise some stock options.
 
2011-10-13 01:27:14 PM
img838.imageshack.us
What do you expect from a guy who would steal 40 cakes?
 
2011-10-13 01:28:32 PM
How many jobs did he create in his wife's business by legislating mandated customers?

/Just like Adam Smith envisioned
 
2011-10-13 01:33:39 PM
Well, maybe those Tea Bagger idiots learned their lesson.


Or not. Seems "learning from mistakes" isn't really part of their skill set.
 
2011-10-13 01:34:11 PM
hawcian: I really, really don't like the guy, and he was an idiot for ever suggesting he could pull in 700,000 jobs (on top of a projected 1 million). Unfortunately, he sort of has a point -- the entire nation is recovering very slowly, you can't exactly expect Florida to be any different.


Keep your eye on the ball. This isn't about how slow the econimy is recovering or about a politician breaking a promise. The issue here is that this man has zero integrity. Not only does he refuse to man up to the fact taht he made a mistake, he's completely changing his political philosophy in order to avoid being called on his mistake. Before the election he believed that a Governor could have a positive impact on jobs. Now that he realizes its more difficult than he anticipated, he should be speaking about the reasons that his projections were off. Not changing what he believes his role is. They got what they elected.
 
2011-10-13 01:37:39 PM
Sounds like $2 gas and 999 taxes to me.
 
2011-10-13 01:41:58 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: A politician breaking a campaign promise? Well I'm just THOROUGHLY disillusioned now

/guess we'll just have to hope for change


Yeah, but it was basically the main platform of his campaign. Instead of creating jobs though, he just sought to pad the wallets of his wealthiest campaign contributors.
 
2011-10-13 01:58:49 PM
chrisnavin.files.wordpress.com2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-13 01:59:27 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: hawcian: I really, really don't like the guy, and he was an idiot for ever suggesting he could pull in 700,000 jobs (on top of a projected 1 million). Unfortunately, he sort of has a point -- the entire nation is recovering very slowly, you can't exactly expect Florida to be any different.


Keep your eye on the ball. This isn't about how slow the econimy is recovering or about a politician breaking a promise. The issue here is that this man has zero integrity. Not only does he refuse to man up to the fact taht he made a mistake, he's completely changing his political philosophy in order to avoid being called on his mistake. Before the election he believed that a Governor could have a positive impact on jobs. Now that he realizes its more difficult than he anticipated, he should be speaking about the reasons that his projections were off. Not changing what he believes his role is. They got what they elected.


You do realize this guy won by the slimmest of margins? I voted against him and so did everyone I know. It wasn't enough. I just find the "They get what the deserve" bit tired. Lots of people know Scott is a disingenuous, thieving liar. There just isn't much we can do about it right now.
 
2011-10-13 02:15:00 PM
1. Get into office.
2. Pass laws that directly benefit your business interests while not getting indicted.
3. Leave office.
4. Profit.
 
2011-10-13 02:18:49 PM
Unfortunately, there isn't a recall process for Florida.
 
2011-10-13 02:21:14 PM

I've been trying to wrap my head around these protests for a while, and I'm hoping I can get critiques of my current understanding of them. Seriously, I want people to pick this apart and demonstrate to me that I'm wrong, if you can in any way. I apologize for the imminent TL;DR, but I haven't yet gotten my understanding down to a single paragraph :)

The best explanation I've heard so far actually came from a friend of mine who has been trying to figure out how to get out to join the protests without losing her job. She works for a large corporate law firm, specializing in finance law, and is honestly probably well on her way to being part of the 1%. She hates it, though, because she's forced to choose between her job and her ethics on a nearly daily basis.

Lax enforcement of regulation - and penalties which often cost only a fraction of the profit gained through unethical or downright fraudulent practices - have caused certain sectors (much of finance and law, for instance) to transition to a dynamic where the only way to survive and get ahead is to cheat. Playing by the rules is no longer a winning strategy.

Education debt comes into the picture here, because it's what holds my friend (and a great many people) in these situations. Once you've trained to work as an investment banker, or a finance lawyer, you often face one of three choices:

1) compete unethically in order to make enough money to cover your massive student loan payments
2) compete ethically and fail, either scraping by in poverty after just making the payments, or not making enough to pay your loans, leading to bankruptcy.
3) leave the industry and declare bankruptcy.

There really isn't a good choice there. Sure, as I've heard people argue here and elsewhere, it's still possible to avoid the whole situation and go to a state or community college. You can get a practical degree, employ yourself in another field, and not end up buried in debt. Lots of people are still doing that. The important thing here is that these choices act as a self-selection mechanism, because if you chose community college or insolvency, you're not going to end up working on wall street. Very soon, the only people left _in_ these industries are those who are trapped in a cycle of compromised ethics and extremely short-term greed.

This wouldn't be a problem if these industries operated in isolation. They'd all just really suck to work in, and the rest of us who didn't go that high-risk route and got a practical degree with little debt could lead our lives happily. Unfortunately, many of these fields (such as corporate law and investment banking) are pervasively intertwined with the rest of our economy, leaving us all dependent on systems which have self-selected for corruption and a myopic focus on short-term greed over long-term reward. They are taking up a larger and larger share of the economy, while simultaneously being corroded by these self-selection mechanisms and therefore becoming more susceptible to catastrophic failure (due to the short-sighted and fraudulent practices). Much of the current disparity in income and unemployment rate can be laid at the feet of this trend.

The problem is not that we somehow have a right to that money or those jobs, it's that if this pattern continues we run the very real risk of the whole economy failing, and that will just suck for everyone. I did things in the way held up as "right" by many of the detractors of the occupy movement. I am out of debt (other than an affordable mortgage) and happily employed in a job I love that pays a wage on which I live comfortably. If, however, systems like finance and corporate law either collapse or survive only by increasingly defrauding all their customers, then I'm going to be a lot worse off, and so is everyone else, regardless of the level of personal responsibility they've displayed. So my understanding is that, all rights and bootstraps aside, the occupy protesters are saying it's probably better if we start working on how to fix this dynamic, instead of just remaining complacent.
 
2011-10-13 02:24:41 PM
"I could argue that I don't have to create any jobs..."



images.politico.com

Why don't you argue that while standing in front of your bus, Rick?
 
2011-10-13 02:26:11 PM
Stefanwulf: summation

That's a reasonable assessment. You can also read the list of grievances approved by the general assembly of Wall Street and many other city occupations, which is pretty in line with what you're saying.
 
2011-10-13 02:43:36 PM
1.) Buy up a bunch of worthless real estate along the coast.
2.) Launch a nuclear missile into it, causing existing coastline to fall into the sea.
3.) New coastline is worth mega $$$.

Why am I not governor?
 
2011-10-13 03:00:02 PM
Quasar: When I see a new troll post for the first time it's like that scene in Jurassic Park when the raptor hatches out of the egg and it makes that little squeak.

Welcome to my favorites.
 
2011-10-13 03:30:55 PM
PsyLord: Unfortunately, there isn't a recall process for Florida.

Is that because of the prevalence of Alzheimers?
 
2011-10-13 03:31:15 PM
Just a smaller scale preview of what a Republican winning the White House would look like.
 
2011-10-13 03:36:02 PM
Stefanwulf: 1) compete unethically in order to make enough money to cover your massive student loan payments
2) compete ethically and fail, either scraping by in poverty after just making the payments, or not making enough to pay your loans, leading to bankruptcy.
3) leave the industry and declare bankruptcy the country.


Sorry Charley. You can't discharge student loans in bankruptcy, so you can forget that option. However you failed to mention option 4) and 5) which are skip the country or jump off a high bridge.

However, the system is working well for the plutocrats because these situations, as you point out, are very good for retention of employees and malleability of their ethics so that they can do your bidding and when your company is caught, they go to jail for you when you blame them for their terrible judgment.
 
2011-10-13 03:52:39 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: A politician breaking a campaign promise? Well I'm just THOROUGHLY disillusioned now

/guess we'll just have to hope for change


He's not a politician! He's a BUSINESSMAN!

/that enough people live in this state who thought it was a good idea to elect this thief makes me want to puke.
 
2011-10-13 04:58:15 PM
(In my best evil bully voice...)

So Florida.... What are you going to do about it? Huh? Punk?

/Yeah, nothing. Thought so.
 
2011-10-13 05:17:49 PM
velvet_fog: 1.) Buy up a bunch of worthless real estate along the coast.
2.) Launch a nuclear missile into it, causing existing coastline to fall into the sea.
3.) New coastline is worth mega $$$.

Why am I not governor?


V O T E FOR VELVET_FOG

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2011-10-13 09:27:57 PM
I figured they would need to hire a whole bunch of people to watch the welfare recipients pee into a cup.
 
2011-10-13 10:55:19 PM
Isn't the governor the same douche that refused federal stimulus money?

/not smart Florida
 
2011-10-14 12:09:15 AM
Soup4Bonnie: "I could argue that I don't have to create any jobs..."



[images.politico.com image 605x328]

Why don't you argue that while standing in front of your bus, Rick?


Jesus, it must have been "Wear Your Riot Gear To Work Day" at Florida Pee Dee that day.
 
2011-10-14 07:00:40 AM
bluefelix: DROxINxTHExWIND: hawcian: I really, really don't like the guy, and he was an idiot for ever suggesting he could pull in 700,000 jobs (on top of a projected 1 million). Unfortunately, he sort of has a point -- the entire nation is recovering very slowly, you can't exactly expect Florida to be any different.


Keep your eye on the ball. This isn't about how slow the econimy is recovering or about a politician breaking a promise. The issue here is that this man has zero integrity. Not only does he refuse to man up to the fact taht he made a mistake, he's completely changing his political philosophy in order to avoid being called on his mistake. Before the election he believed that a Governor could have a positive impact on jobs. Now that he realizes its more difficult than he anticipated, he should be speaking about the reasons that his projections were off. Not changing what he believes his role is. They got what they elected.

You do realize this guy won by the slimmest of margins? I voted against him and so did everyone I know. It wasn't enough. I just find the "They get what the deserve" bit tired. Lots of people know Scott is a disingenuous, thieving liar. There just isn't much we can do about it right now.


He won by the slimmest of margins in an election in which the Tea Party swept nationwide. In any other year, he would have lost.
 
2011-10-14 10:27:17 AM
images.politico.com

reminds me of

freedomguide.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-14 01:14:25 PM
When he was running for office, Gov. Scott claimed that there were all these businesses that were being held back from being created and/or doing business in Florida simply because state regulations were holding them back. He told the voters that if he was elected, he would slash the red tape and businesses would come flooding back into the state, which in turn would put all of the unemployed people back to work, and everything would be great.

Scott was elected more by default than by mandate. The lady he was running against was apparently a crook (according to her critics) and a lot of voters seem to tout this as their real reason for voting for Scott instead. However, Scott took his election as a sign that everyone was on board with his get-rid-of-regulations idea, so he has come in and managed to make himself look really stupid. Most areas of the state are at 11 percent or higher unemployment. Nothing that he has done has created one job in the state. And now, as shown in TFA, he's getting an attitude about being held to his word -- the typical reaction of a CEO whose word is being questioned: "I'm in CHARGE dammit -- YOU don't have the right to hold ME accountable for anything. Who the hell are YOU?"

We'll eventually get him out of office, but it scares me that this guy was supposedly the best either political party had to offer. A LOT of people in this state are seriously hurting right now, mainly because we're a primarily tourism- and retirement-based economy. All of our politicians seem more focused on undoing legislative progress to benefit a few business interests rather than trying to chart a vision for the state's future. It's very sad.

/beautiful state, crazy people
 
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